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The Vampire Diaries - Episode 4.01 - Growing Pains - Latest From zap2it

Oct 2, 2012

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21 comments:

  1. Bruce_FOctober 2, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    - "Bitter" Damon is the exact opposite of the Damon we're supposed to get this season.
    - Isn't Elena feeding from Damon a secret Zap2it wasn't supposed to give away, especially since TV Guide redacted it from their spoiler column over a month ago?
    - Bonnie being awesome is a long time coming. I wonder who she lets in the house whom she hasn't let in before?
    - No info on Matt or Rebekah? Lame.
    - Michael Trevino is good as Tyler/Klaus? I'm surprised.
    - Jeremy's abilities are expanding? Interesting. Anything to make him less boring is a good step forward.

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  2. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Damn! Why do
    they get to see the first two eps now? We have to wait 9 more days for the
    first! Not fair!!!


    Put them
    online NOW!!!!!!!





    0) Nothing
    really new. Well, if she is capable to choose (I'll believe it when I see it) and
    she chooses Stefan, it still would be wise to put Elena and Damon in bed (and
    not just talking or sleeping) at least once. If not, the fans will freak. Someone
    may get hurt or killed. Delena has a big fan community. Give us something good
    and hot!!!
    I-don't-know-how-I-feel? We got over this long ago. Now it's I-love-both-I-want-both-I-just-can't-do-it.


    1) Well
    Elena is compassioned. This will get stronger now. Along with her need to
    protect her loved once (what is left of them). But if she is pretending that
    she's fine, to make the others feel better, especially Matt and Jeremy, she
    sooner or later will break (or explode). Been there, done that.


    2) Bonnie
    want's to help? Nice. But mostly she makes things worse. Inviting someone who
    hasn't come in before? Klaus? It's official. She's insane!


    Besides:
    Kicked around by the council? Well, if I'd be one of the MF vampires I'd say: You
    don't want us here? Fine. We leave. When the next psycho-vampires come to
    kill, handle them yourself. Good luck!


    It's the
    brothers and Caroline who were protecting the town (or trying to). But mostly
    they came because of Elena, so the vampires would maybe stay away if she leaves
    with the brothers.


    3) Could they
    be more specific? About the species? Are we talking vampires or humans? Ghosts,
    werewolves or something else? If it's a ghost the list is quite long. Vampires?
    Could be Katerina (if she believes Klaus is dead, she'll be back for the boys).


    4) I admit I
    never believed that Michael could be a good Klaus. Well, Joseph is so brilliant,
    I never considered anyone could play the part. If they say Michael is good …
    Can't wait to see it.
    But I still want that psycho Klaus dead. ASAP!!!!!!! And
    not just because I hate him. This whole Klaus/Originals story is already too
    long. It's getting bored and annoying. If they don't finish it up soon, I'm
    afraid they may lose some fans.


    He tries to
    tell her he is Klaus and not Ty? Right. I more likely believe in Santa Claus
    and the Eastern Bunny. He wants to get under Carolines skirt. They want to make
    us believe, he gets the chance and wants to throw it away? Sure.


    Klaus
    breaking somebody's heart? You mean, he rips it out?


    5) If
    Jeremy gets more powerful it's fine by me. I just hope he can handle it. And that
    he can use it to help. Like killing Klaus.


    6) Damon is
    not someone to make friends easily. Mostly, cause he acts like an ass and usually
    loses control and kills somebody. But I'm
    glad he finds someone. A few months ago there were speculations it could be
    Meredith. Could he have a woman for a friend without trying to get her into
    bed? Doubtful. He hates Matt (now especially), Jeremy is too young to drink (in
    public) and he would never consider his brother (who is sleeping with the girl
    he loves) as friend. Who we got left? Ty? Besides fighting a common enemy, did
    they ever spoke with each other? Well, he considered Liz as a friend.

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  3. NIMOctober 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    Why oh why is Bonnie killing herself for people who barely give a crap about her unless they need some magical mcguffin?

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  4. Bruce_FOctober 3, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    Because Bonnie is a good person.

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  5. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    try stupid

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  6. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 1:24 AM




    Sorry. That
    was harsh.


    Yes, Bonnie
    is a good person. She just sometimes pisses me off. All the secrets and lying
    to her friends. I know, everyone does that. What pisses me off most is this
    whole Klaus thing.


    But you
    must admit, that she lied before and that she sometime causes more trouble than necessary.

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  7. Bruce_FOctober 3, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    Everyone lies and everyone causes trouble on this show. I won't speak ill of Bonnie for that. The one thing that bugs me more often than not about Bonnie is her overly self righteous attitude. I can live with that though.

    Bonnie is someone who has repeatedly put herself through immense physical harm (from others and by her own doing) trying to help her friends. The level of self-sacrifice she has endured on behalf of the people she loves gets her at least a few free passes with me.

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  8. NIMOctober 3, 2012 at 1:38 AM

    what Klaus thing? Do you mean the Tyler/Klaus switcheroo thing which basically saved Damon, Stefan and Caroline?

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  9. SusanOctober 3, 2012 at 1:57 AM

    The whole Klaroline thing is so, so gross. I don't really appreciate sexual assault being glorified like that. Just yuck!

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  10. SusanOctober 3, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    *Michael Trevino is good as Tyler/Klaus? I'm surprised.*


    I'm not.

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  11. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 2:10 AM

    She hates the brothers. She did for her mom. Don't ask me why. She left her. Twice. What mom does that?

    And it's not just this Klaus think. She is blaming the brothers for everything. She acts only when it's too late and she clearly doesn't know what she wants. She is helping the brothers, than she is sabotaging them and then helping them again if there is no other choice. Time to choose a side.

    Besides: She saved Klaus to safe her mom (and her friends). She released a f*****g psycho on her so called best friend. She set him free after all they've been thru to get him in this damn coffin. He is free to get after Elena and her friends again (by the time she did it Elena was still alive). Even if he promised Bonnie to leave them alone; how stupid is she to believe him? When Damon turned her mother to safe Elena she blamed her for that. That because of her sooo many people have to suffer. And now she is releasing the bastard that is responsible for that? Without him none of this would have happened. Why is she blaming Elena and the Salvatores for everything. Oh and now, that he knows that Bonnie can put him down she is probably the first on his list to go.

    So, if you ask me if I'm pissed at her for releasing him after one day coffin, after they tried one YEAR to get him in there, yeah, I am pissed. Wouldn't you be?

    I mean: did she say anything to her friends? Did they locked Tyler away before they send Klaus into his body? I don't think so.

    So sorry if I have my problems liking or trusting her.

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  12. Bruce_FOctober 3, 2012 at 2:17 AM

    I haven't seen him display the range required to pull it off but I guess maybe you have.

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  13. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 2:30 AM

    I know that everyone lies and hides things form family and friends. That's human nature. I don't blame her for that more than Elena or Damon. It's the results of her acting that bugs me. The others are the once that have to deal with the consequences.

    I'm not denying that she is trying to help. She DOES want to help. Basically she is a good person and is putting herself thru many risks to help them. I'm not denying that. I just don't like the methods. And her self-righteous attitudes (as you said it perfectly). I mean the look on her face when she released and then met Klaus. I could kill her for that.

    She released him to safe her mother (and Caroline, not the brothers). And she was so proud of herself. Yeah, really well done, genius. And if Klaus starts killing again to get to Elena (if she wouldn't have died and turned. He'll be pissed that he lost the last Petrova and will kill everyone. Like he did with Katerinas family. Remember? She turnes and he slaughters her entire family). Who would she AGAIN blame for that? Right: Elena and her boys. Not him, not herself.

    That is my problem with her.

    Why can't she be more like the Bonnie in the books? I like that Bonnie. I don't even mind that she is into Damon. It's sweet. The Book-Bonnie would never do that. Not before talking to the others and made plans A, B and C.

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  14. Bruce_FOctober 3, 2012 at 2:48 AM

    I wouldn't go so far as to say Bonnie hates the brothers. Bonnie's grandmother died doing a spell with her because Bonnie insisted on busting through the tomb spell to get Stefan out. It's just Damon whom Bonnie dislikes.

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  15. AnzlaOctober 3, 2012 at 6:35 AM

    So Bonnie invites someone into her house for the first time in ep 2, the same episode that Damon gets a new friend. Sounds suspicious..

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  16. veleda03October 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Isn't Tyler to young to drink in public as well? and Bonnie?

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  17. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Grams did the spell to help Elena and Stefan. It was her choice. Bonnie doesn't get it. She acted, like Elena or Stefan or Damon forced her into that. Besides: she, as witch and former friend of Stefans, knew about the healing powers of vampire blood. Why didn't she took any?

    All the time she blames the brothers for everything. Even, if they got nothing to do with whatever goes on.

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  18. kiaraAOctober 3, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Yeah. But Ty can compel the bartender. Jeremy can't. Unless this is his knew power.

    Bonnie? Are you kidding me? She HATES Damon. That is why I didn't consider her. They work together, if they have to. But she'd rather die than sit and drink with him.

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  19. Lilith HellfireOctober 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Yes, Book Bonnie is infinitely better. But I won't even get into all of the things that are infinitely better in the book (although a few choices that have deviated from the book have turned out better than expected).

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  20. Bruce_FOctober 3, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    Bonnie does tend to blame vampires for everything, sometimes with good reason but, with all due respect, you're completely wrong about Grams and her intentions.

    - Grams didn't need to help Elena. She could come and go from the tomb as she pleased.
    - Grams double-crossed Damon for the specific purpose of sealing him in the tomb. When Stefan went after him, she was perfectly okay with it and had no intention of letting him out either.
    - Grams did not break the tomb spell to help Elena or Stefan. She broke the spell because Bonnie begged her to and then threatened to do it herself if Grams didn't help. Grams relented because she was afraid Bonnie would die trying to complete the spell.

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  21. kiaraAOctober 4, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    Yes. Grams didn't have to help.

    Sorry, it's been a while since I watched it, so I checked it. You were right. Neither of them asked Grams to do it. Bonnie wanted to do it and Grams helped her. So, I don't get, why Bonnie is blaming Damon and Stefan. If someone is responsible for it it's her. And considering Grams knowledge of vampires (the healing power of the blood) I wonder why she didn’t ask for some blood. It could have healed her. And Stefan wouldn't mind. He could have offered it.

    And of course they wanted to get rid of Damon. He acted like an ass in S1. Sometimes even I wanted to get rid of him.

    Grams didn’t need to help Bonnie. Back then she wasn't strong enough to do the spell alone. It wouldn't have worked. At least I guess. Well, it's no secret that Bonnies powers are growing.

    And yes, Bonnie is blaming vampires for everything. Can't really blame her for that. In most cases they are responsible. But not always. And she is always blaming them.

    I think, she is projecting her hatred for vampires on Damon and Stefan, because, they are in her reach, what makes it easy, and they would never hurt her (because of Elena), what makes is safe.

    At least it would explain, why she kept her distance when it came to fighting Klaus.

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