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Supernatural - Episode 8.07 - A Little Slice of Kevin - Full Press Release

26 Oct 2012

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CASTIEL ESCAPES PURGATORY - Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) are stunned when Castiel (Misha Collins) suddenly appears back on Earth with no memory of how he escaped from Purgatory. Meanwhile, Mrs. Tran (guest star Lauren Tom) enlists a witch (guest star Cyrina Fiallo) to concoct a demon bomb, but the witch double crosses Mrs. Tran and turns her and Kevin (guest star Osric Chau) over to Crowley (guest star Mark Sheppard). Charlie Carner directed the episode written by Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner (#807).

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68 comments:

  1. ShatteredOne26 October 2012 at 20:03

    Cyrina Fiallo? Color me intrigued. Plus the episode sounds decent too.

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  2. C P26 October 2012 at 20:03

    Oh oh, who got Castiel out of Purgatory?


    People need to learn not to trust witches.

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  3. Luis26 October 2012 at 20:19

    wow I guess it was going to happen. This is the first mythology episode written by Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner.


    So... 8x09 is totally one of Jeremy.

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  4. João Paulo26 October 2012 at 20:37

    Sounds great to me.

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  5. chris68426 October 2012 at 20:45

    Looks like we have another heavy Winchester-action episode coming (yes, that would be sarcasm).

    Cas arrives back with amnesia and big Purgatory mystery.
    Kevin and and mom mix it up with a double-crossing witch and then the King of Hell.
    Sam and Dean act "stunned."

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  6. ZoeF26 October 2012 at 20:50

    lol Way to give out the whole plot in a sentence, CW PR dept.

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  7. chris68426 October 2012 at 21:03

    I think we know now why Sam was so anxious to move forward with their word of God hunt in 8.5. He's starting to realize that he and Dean are being left out of the mytharc again.

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  8. JMC0026 October 2012 at 21:22

    you're kind of a complainer huh? go look at the promotional pictures looks like Dean and Sam are firmly involved in the action in this episode.

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  9. MarissaAO26 October 2012 at 21:23

    Looking forward to this one!

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  10. Megan_B26 October 2012 at 22:00

    I'm with you, the boys look right on the frontline with both Cass part and Kevin's part.

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  11. chris68426 October 2012 at 22:13

    Am I? Some things I like, some things I don't. Right now my record on liking the episodes have been 2-2.


    Sam and Dean being detached from the mytharc has been a big problem for the past two seasons, so if it happens again this season - get used to the complaining, from me and from a lot of fans. If you don't want to hear negative feedback, don't hang out on fan websites. I haven't said much about this issue this season so far because I wanted to give the show a chance, but this is the second big mythology episode and it looks like Sam and Dean will be playing a passive role again. And so far we've heard NO spoiler that indicates that Sam has any direct role with either Purgatory or the word of God tablet, other than being a "reluctant" hunter whose arm Dean had to twist to get to come along.



    I looked at the photos. I see Sam and Dean researching, Sam and Dean poised with weapons - like they always are - but no real action scenes. The only character that something seemed to have something going on was Cas.

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  12. Dahne26 October 2012 at 22:52

    Castiel has no memory again. Ugh! We just went through this and we don't have answers about how he came back last time still. Oh well, Crowley makes every episode better.

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  13. Dahne26 October 2012 at 23:07

    I don't want to jump the gun before the episode airs but I'm getting worried now too. Dean and Sam have had precious little to do this season so far and we're going into the 5th episode. They've only had one unqualified win and the brother rift is still a prime issue. More importantly, in my opinion we haven't had an episode yet hit it out of the park. By this time last year we had two. You and I rarely agree and I usually try to find the positive when discussing Supernatural online. This isn't a good sign.

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  14. Misty Pebworth26 October 2012 at 23:11

    This sounds very promising! All my favorites in one episode. Sam, Dean, Cas, and crowley! And I like Kevin and Mrs Tran too! They really do give a lot of the plot away in this snippet (didn't need to know the witch doublecrossed them), but, it should be interesting none the less!

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  15. tvmonkey26 October 2012 at 23:24

    JC said they would step back from the heavy mythology this season, which I now understand to mean they'll have little to do with it because that'll mostly be handled by Kevin and his mum. It seems Sam and Dean are just going to be spending all their time at odds with each other.


    They're at odds from episode 5 all the way through to episode 10 so far if I'm reading the spoilers and set reports right. Dean is off with Benny in episode 9 or 10 with Sam doing god knows what?


    I hope we'll at least learn Benny's true nature good or bad by mid season or I'll find it hard to understand why Sam and Dean haven't just gone their separate ways already?

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  16. CyanaT26 October 2012 at 23:28

    Thedescription doesn't say Cas has all his memory - he just remember how he escaped Purgatory,
    #1 on my wish list - Sam did something that enabled Cas to escape,

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  17. chris68426 October 2012 at 23:35

    Agreed - when you and I agree it usually means a blue moon or the Apocalypse, although I'm pretty sure we disagreed on the Apocalypse. But in this case, I think we agree that we need Sam and Dean driving the story. I'm all for interesting side characters who have an important role, but Sam and Dean need to need to be in the scenes. Their presence can't be optional.



    I like realistic tension in relationships, but the brother rift is getting to me too. My thoughts at this moment is that it that it fits pattern. The brother rift in season 4 sold Sam choosing to go with Ruby. The Cas/Dean rift in season 6 sold Cas's decision to play God. The brother rift this season will probably lead to Dean making a questionable decision related to Benny. But it's painful getting there.

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  18. Wolfnight27 October 2012 at 00:18

    This episode sounds like it well be great, though I doubt we'll get much Sam and Dean. Or rather, much Sam and Dean without them being in the background.
    Anyways... Yay Crowley's back, and we get to see more of Mrs. Tran.... And YAY Cas is back!

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  19. Donna C27 October 2012 at 00:52

    I guess good witches don't exist in the SPN-verse.

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  20. MythAl27 October 2012 at 01:00

    I agree, because right now I don't even get why they are still together, after watching 8x05 promo. And the episode you mentioned is 9.

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  21. Chelsea_blue8727 October 2012 at 02:13

    The boys just being there and having something to do doesn't mean anything. See season 7. The boys were often in the action but the plot centered more around supporting characters than it did them. This show is supposed to be about them. Now that Cas is back, it will be all about the guest stars I guess.

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  22. ScottA27 October 2012 at 03:44

    Wouldn't THAT stir the proverbial pot! Sam not looking for Dean yet getting Cas out of purgatory.



    Brother Wars 2012

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  23. MarissaAO27 October 2012 at 03:58

    I am really not understanding this worry. Precious little to do? What were the first three episodes? I'm glad the rift hasn't been resolved yet, means it might actually be leading somewhere character-development-wise (unlike the thing with Amy last season).

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  24. MarissaAO27 October 2012 at 04:02

    "Now that Cas is back, it will be all about the guest stars I guess."
    ... not if they promote Misha back to a regular. :D

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  25. Lissie_Bee27 October 2012 at 04:57

    BAM. I figured they'd keep whether Castiel escaped from purgatory a mystery for a lot longer. I definitely didn't expect to see it in a press release haha... but yay! It'll be interesting to see how they all get back on track... IF they do. I'm definitely not thrilled about more gaps in his memory. Then again it doesn't say he has total amnesia, so it might be salvageable.


    Also, I'm kind of glad to see Mama Tran back :)

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  26. Megan_B27 October 2012 at 05:35

    And just because the synopsis doesn't tell much doesn't mean anything either, we've had so many missleading synopsis in the past that didn't told the most important things. It could go either way, sure, we'll see.

    With the main arc about sending the demons back to hell, take their final big revenge for everything in their life, I have a feeling they'll have their part to play. It's been so long since the last time the big quest was that close to them and not just being caught in someone else war.

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  27. isleofskye27 October 2012 at 12:47

    Yesterday, I told myself that I would stop commenting as everything I write is negative, but how can you keep quiet when you read a press release like the above!
    X

    The first line tells us exactly what Sam and Dean will be doing in this episode; they will pass the time being stunned at Castiel's return to Earth. I don't know how many minutes of the episode that will cover, I'm sure we'll get a couple of minutes of the Winchesters anyway!
    X

    The resting 37 minutes will be dedicated to the real heroes of the show Kevin and his Mom and the witch who double crosses them, letting them be captured by Crowley.

    X

    Gone are the days when it was Sam and Dean who would get captured by the bad guys and who would have to use their brains to find a way out.
    But that's old news!
    Now the Winchesters have been promoted to occasional guest stars. That's progress for you!
    X

    Then the thing I can't understand, reading reviews on some of the other sites is the praise that's being given to the writers, saying how wonderful everything is and, wow, it's just like season one all over again. Magificent!
    X

    Well, I don't see it that way and I'm going to keep defending the brothers, because I fell in love with the show for them, and not guest stars that I care nothing about.

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  28. chris68427 October 2012 at 15:43

    My money is on the Alfie angel.

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  29. Megan_B27 October 2012 at 16:01

    more like how to give everything..and nothing in 2 sentences ;P We have no idea what the boys and Cass are searching for/figthing who, why..etc in the promo pics, while we know what the Trans will do

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  30. BoxManLocke27 October 2012 at 17:07

    Am I the only one worried about the writers ? Their track record isn't really in their favor.
    I was really hoping they would stick to their crappy standalones.

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  31. chris68427 October 2012 at 19:52

    They usually do a decent job with the dialogue, but they have other issues - mostly following previous mythology; an overabundance of gore; pacing issues due to how much time the gore scenes require; and characterization issues with Sam, and to a lesser extent Dean. It doesn't look like there will be much focus on Sam in this episode, so characterization shouldn't be a problem. There might be some gore with the witch scenes, but that doesn't appear to be the focus of the story, so the gore should be minimal. The scariest part is what they might do with the mythology. I don't think they've written angels before, and this may be the episode that introduces a new faction, so that could be interesting.

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  32. chris68427 October 2012 at 20:21

    Sam and Dean have had MOTW cases, but they've accomplished very little with the big mytharc case so far (the word of God tablets). They tracked down Kevin (after Sam wasn't there for him for months), but led Crowley straight to him. They were unable to defend him against Crowley, but luckily Kevin was more prepared than they were and they got away (although not his girlfriend). They were led to a trap at the auction and Kevin was captured. At the auction, they were unable to bid and get their hands on the tablet because they were way out of their league. Then they lost the tablet because Crowley severely outpowers them. Kevin's mom almost lost her soul. And then they lost Kevin and his mom when Kevin outsmarted them. And now they can't seem to move forward on doing anything with the tablets without Kevin helping them.


    As for the rift causing character development, I don't see how that could happen. I guess you could make the argument that Sam choosing a saner lifestyle is character development, but that choice doesn't have to be accompanied by brother fighting. Sam not being able to say he looked for Dean or Kevin was completely out of character. And in my mind, it either points to a huge reveal later (so huge that the secret is being better guarded than the Dean and Cas mysteries), or that Sam is once again being written OOC so that he can be used as a plot device to get Dean's storyline to where the writers want it to go, driving Dean closer to his new vamp friend. Either way, I don't see what they're doing with Sam as character development, I see it as character regression, and convince me otherwise they need to spend some time showing me how Sam got to where he is now - something they're generally unwilling to do when it comes to Sam. As for where Dean is headed and whether that could lead to character development, I have no clue yet, but my guess is Dean is also heading down the path of character regression.



    What could lead to some great character development for Sam is if the relationship with Amelia is used as a tool to explore his past history with hunting, demons, and Lucifer, and force him to relect on what it means for him and grow. But for that to happen, we need some episodes slowly taking us through Sam's past year. And from what I've heard from spoilers, we're not going to get those episodes in the first half (short glimpses of Sam flashbacks, but probably with about the same depth as the birthday cake flashback). That type of detailed character exploration is even more unlikely in the second half since the later part of the season is generally when the mytharc action tends to kick in and take over.

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  33. Megan_B27 October 2012 at 20:55

    If your first paragraph was for the story moving very slowly so far, I'm with you that they need to move the arc along, but I don't see why you totally excluding the chance it may happen in this episode. The couple of line in the release don't say anything. The boys and Cass are doing something, fighting some ....people? Monsters? Angels?....Who? What? Why? The press released doesn't say anything about what they're doing, and why. And in the pics it look like Kevin got the tablet back. Maybe the boys are the ones who went to save Kevin to set the stage for the mid-season in...episode 10 maybe? Idk

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  34. chris68427 October 2012 at 21:03

    I'm not totally excluding the chance it could happen in this or any future upcoming episode. My comments were reactions to what they've told us so far - nothing more.

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  35. Megan_B27 October 2012 at 21:57

    Cause you said that it will be all about Cass and the Tran in another comment and all the boys would do is ',be stunned'', not like ''appearing'' for Cass is such a huge story^^; there's clearly a huge part that stay hidden in the released

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  36. chris68427 October 2012 at 22:07

    I was paraphrasing what was in the press release - again, reacting to what they've told us.

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  37. C P27 October 2012 at 22:10

    I'm assuming in the promo pics Dean, Sam, and Cas are fighting demons to get Kevin and his mother free.

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  38. Megan_B27 October 2012 at 22:14

    that's what I'm thinking too and why I'm wondering why there's so many people freaking out that the boys won't have anything to do

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  39. C P27 October 2012 at 22:16

    I'm nervous about them writing this episode, but also thinking maybe it might be better than their stand-alones, kind of like how I don't like Ben Edlund's comedy, but love his drama. Maybe I dislike their stand-alones but will enjoy the myth-arc stuff?

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  40. C P27 October 2012 at 22:18

    That's a 1 in a trillion chance right there.

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  41. C P27 October 2012 at 22:18

    More likely, but why would he lack memory of that?

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  42. C P27 October 2012 at 22:20

    I'm sorry you feel that why. I do think Sam and Dean don't get interesting enough self-storylines, but they are involved in everything, and they have more scenes than everyone else imo except for dreadful episode 4, which weren't even recurring guest stars, which is worst than a recurring guest star getting limelight.

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  43. chris68427 October 2012 at 22:32

    Maybe Alfie isn't as innocent as he looks and wiped Cas's mind to hide something?

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  44. chris68427 October 2012 at 22:37

    They always have something to do. The question I have is whether Sam and Dean will be central to the mytharc like they used to be. I want them to be driving the action, not just bodyguards to characters who are driving the action.

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  45. C P27 October 2012 at 22:42

    Aw man, don't say that. I liked him. :( Alfie and Inias both.

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  46. chris68427 October 2012 at 23:01

    Trust no one.

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  47. C P28 October 2012 at 00:01

    lol I don't need to hold that rule in fiction world cause it's not going to hurt me.

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  48. Megan_B28 October 2012 at 00:07

    Right now I'm not jumping on the panic button. To have the chance to get their revenge on the demons for everything that hapened all their first is the more personnal quest they've had in a long time. I'm waiting to see them get more directly on the frontline, but last year Kevin helped them too and he only translated the tablet while the boys did the hard work. I'm expection something similar this year too. Look like they'll get the tablet back in episode 7, Kevin should tell them how the spell work and I'm guessing the boys ill do the dirty work again

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  49. chris68428 October 2012 at 00:09

    You're supposed to say "I want to believe" (from X-Files)
    :)

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  50. C P28 October 2012 at 03:18

    Don't clutch your chest in shock, but I've never seen X-Files. It ended before I began watching adult shows- I was 8 in 2002. lol

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  51. chris68428 October 2012 at 12:55

    If you ever get a chance to watch it, I'd recommend it. Mulder is a big UFO believer and has a poster "I want to believe" tacked up in his office. And "trust no one" are the words to live by in the series.

    I watched bits of it when it was on live, but I missed a lot, and I've been rewatching the series over the past few months. It's still great. The two leads develop such a great, fun chemsistry as the series goes on that never gets old. It surprised me how much of Supernatural seems to be pulled from X-Files.

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  52. C P28 October 2012 at 17:37

    I thought it was pretty clear God brought him back last time.

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  53. C P28 October 2012 at 17:38

    If I could ever find it on TV I probably would.

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  54. MarissaAO28 October 2012 at 18:13

    ... and I just noticed that Misha isn't, in fact, called a "guest star" in the press release. Hopefully that isn't a mistake.

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  55. Dahne28 October 2012 at 20:41

    I thought that was only Cas' best guess. He said he thought God was punishing him after being host to Leviathans. We didn't get anything concrete.

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  56. Dahne28 October 2012 at 20:45

    He has no memory of the key event is closer to what I meant. I am concerned that once again we will have amnesia as an excuse or a dropped plot point.

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  57. CyanaT28 October 2012 at 21:39

    Yawza! I made lots of typos in my comment; that's what you get for typing nearly dark. Obviously you guys and gals knew what meant.*g*

    "Cas" *might* have really died in Purgatory after Benny and Dean escaped. I have a new DVR that has three times the capacity of my old one so I'm finally able to "record" SPN in HD. When I rewatched the end of 8.02 - the scene where Cas is calling Dean and is holding onto someone's hand, the standard def version that I buy from Amazon VOD shows what seems to be Cas "letting go" but the HD version clearly shows someone (appears to be Dean) letting Cas go (i.e. letting go of Cas's hand). (You might be aware of this already) .If Cas died in Purgatory he might have been resurrected again (as a "punishment") as he had been (he thought) in 7.17 TBAI and he had no memory that time either.

    If he did escape and not just die - amnesia smacks of angel windexing but I don't quite know why this time. Two things come to mind that are not necessarily mutual exclusive;1. Benny and Dean are "responsible" in some way for Cas's not being able to "go with them" or it the "escape hatch" was as Benny suggested not "angel friendly" and Cas was blocked from escaping this way and 2)he doesn't remember as part of the spoilers about the "new class of angels" ("Naomi", for example) and that something may be hunting him or using him to get at something (Kevin and the tablets maybe?); the new class of angels might have helped him escape and be the beings using him.

    Anyway I agree with you and hope this isn't just another excuse for Cas to "protect him" from new negative consequences of his actions, although he was in Purgatory and he "left" Dean to protect him and did not seem to actively defending himself in 8.02 just hiding.

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  58. CyanaT28 October 2012 at 21:45

    Yeah, definitely just wishful thinking. My money is on the "new class of angel" helping him escape and windexing his memories because they're hiding their own agenda that's more complicated than just wanting Kevin to go with them.

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  59. CyanaT28 October 2012 at 21:50

    Yes, could be, although as C P says why windex Cas. Alfie may have told the new class of angels where to find Cas though. Alfie seemed very "innocent"/non worldly - a lot like Cas was was when he was first introduced.

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  60. CyanaT28 October 2012 at 22:28

    Just wishful thinking as I said above. I'm one of the many? fans who absolutely loathes what JC has done to Sam this season ("not looking for Dean", ditching his phones so he didn't know [or apparently not giving two figs) that Kevin was frantically trying to contact him, and not even trying to rescue Kevin). Of course we don't know the full story yet and something may have prevented him from doing either and possibly that something will make his inaction slightly more defensible.
    I hate Brother Wars and I (and others) feel this situation (Sam's inaction) is so artificial; 8.01 was the third premiere where Dean was angry (or suspicious) with Sam and zero premieres with Sam angry with Dean. This season opener was even more unnecessary. There is no way Sam wouldn't have looked for Dean or a way to save Kevin.

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  61. ScottA28 October 2012 at 23:11

    I kind of wish I had a brother. Most of the guys I know who have brothers fight like hell. And the large families in my hometown who had eight brothers and six sisters?!?!? HOLY TABLETS BATMAN!


    Maybe it is my perspective from this side of the fence but I always witnessed and expected brothers fighting.


    It is just so damn fun seeing all the passion, especially this day and age, driving these spirited conversations!

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  62. tvmonkey28 October 2012 at 23:21

    thanks I wasnt sure

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  63. chris68428 October 2012 at 23:24

    I'm thinking that Alfie and the new class might be one in the same. The timing of his introduction was suspicious.

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  64. CyanaT29 October 2012 at 03:30

    In retrospect, you're likely right about Alfie; "Winchesterland" rarely includes coincidences.

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  65. C P29 October 2012 at 04:13

    He also said Daphne said God sent her to find him. May not mean anything besides her being devout...I don't know.


    The reason I figure it was God was Cas died like he had in season 4 and 5 in basic sense, an explosion. And I am willing to think God maybe wanted him to fix his mess.


    Purgatory escape whether after possible death or not is the only one really different.

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  66. Itamy Sandoval29 October 2012 at 10:36

    that's the "A Little Slice of Castiel" (no kevin!)

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  67. CyanaT2 November 2012 at 01:08

    Reading and/or skimming the recent interviews of each J and Ty, it appears* on the surface* that Benny is not only still on not drinking humans wagon, which makes Sam wrong (again) to not trust Benny (and Dean's judgment),
    So it looks to be a case of Winchester "choosing a supernatural monster" over their own brother. I don't expect any grief over Dean choosing Benny (over Sam) because the show has (and will in 8.09 and the interviews with Ty and JA) go out of their way to continue to build Benny up as a hellofaguy. I guess their dfferences over Benny cause Sam and Dean to split up.*IF* Benny does something skeevy in 8.09 the Js and Ty aren't telling.
    JP's interview said we'd learn more about the "split" from Amelia in 8.09 and that he liked "the next script" (8.10?) so in his mind Sam does "something" in 8.10 (or maybe 8.10 is ITB/TE "Sam-lite" and he appreciates the extension of his winter break). I adore both JA and JP but consider JP's apparent fondness to his "screwed to hell and back" (IMO) storyline suspect. In other words I'm unfortunately having a much harder time agreeing with JP's judgment this season.

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  68. CyanaT2 November 2012 at 02:01

    I'm not against any brotherly conflict .I'm the oldest and have a brother two years younger and a half sister 8 years younger. My brother and I used to fight like cats and dogs but when push shoved we had each others' backs against all others quite like the Winchesters "should be* but aren't in S8 premiere because of JC wanted to reset/rewind the show back to the beginning without acknowledging that after loosing Jess, there is no way that "S1 Sam" wouldn't look for Dean (and I'm including all the losses the Winchester's experienced).
    "Conflict" in S8 should be about tactics to use in cases, including Kevin,and we've seen that; there can be conflict over hunting vs retiring while you have all your limbs and we've seen that, too. They can even be conflicted about whether Benny should be adopted into the Winchester extended family and appaarently that is to come. That JC right off the bat had Sam not only ditch his responsibility for Kevin and avoid Dean's questions about looking for him - I literally howled with distress and anger.


    I've read a few sites where JC was quoted as saying he wondered what the reaction would be if one of the brothers didn't look for the other and guess which brother was chosen for that dubious honor - Sam - which only tells me that JC's not in touch with the pulse of the fandom at all where a lot of fans look side eyed at Sam in the best of cases - or he doesn't care about how Sam's "actions" make Sam look really bad again.


    I don't think any fan has a problem with Sam wanting out of the life again - safe/normal/picnics and bday cakes (because we know that he'll be drawn back in by choice again); it's that some fans including me have massive problems with Sam seeming to (or did as in the premiere )ditch Kevin entirely, and not turn over every stone, call every contact in Bobby's journal, summon Crowley, contact the Alpha Vamp if he could and do everything short of making another demon-type deal to find out if Dean was really dead. Dean and Cas disappeared -there wasn't any remains. JP has said he didn't know where to look, blah blah. As smart as Sam is supposed to be the posibility that Dean and Cas were zapped "alive" to Purgatory never crossed Sam's mind - I find that hard to believe.

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