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Supernatural - Episode 8.05 - Blood Brother - Press Release

10 Oct 2012

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“SUPERNATURAL” — (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET)
“Blood Brother” (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

BENNY CALLS DEAN FOR HELP — After Benny (Ty Olsson) gets brutally beat up by some vampires, he calls Dean (Jensen Ackles) for help. Dean abruptly packs up and tells a confused Sam (Jared Padalecki) that he’s taking a “personal day.” Benny confesses that he’s going after his Maker (guest star Patrick Stafford) so Dean offers to help, flashing back on the many times Benny helped him and Castiel (Misha Collins) in Purgatory. Meanwhile, Sam (Jared Padalecki) uses his solo time to reflect on the life he left behind with Amelia (guest star Liane Balaban). However, when things go bad for Dean and Benny, Dean calls Sam for help, which makes everything very complicated. Guy Bee directed the episode written by Ben Edlund (#805).

Source: CW

51 comments:

  1. So Cas Is in this one? Yay!

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  2. Sounds like a good one. Bond between Dean and Benny gets stronger while his relationship with Sam grows strained? Sounds like tons of action and good plot jumps.

    And maybe Benny has a bigger role in searching for the word of god?

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  3. I think this is the episode where the brothers fight. Anyway, can't wait for this!

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  4. So this is where they really crank up the angst this season. Swell.

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  5. It's a shame the vampires only beat Benny up and don't kill him!
    Now we will have to suffer him to the bitter end.
    This is all I needed, more bad feeling between the brothers. Ugh!

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  6. I think Jared said that at some point Sam will confront Dean about why its ok for Dean to trust a vampire after all the crap Dean has given him about trusting demons/monsters/Ruby?


    Personally I think it would be better for Sam not to confront Dean about Benny, it will only backfire on himself somehow. I bet Sam ends up looking the bad guy in this situation.

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  7. My fear also. After all Dean and Benny are brothers in arms fighting and surviving in Purgatory together with Castiel .a little club Sam doesnt belong to .I can understand his feelings but it has too much potential to make Sam look bad esp after not looking for Dean.

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  8. Agreed.
    Sam's the fall guy after all.
    Whatever Dean does he always comes up smelling of roses and this this is unfair to those who like me love both brothers, because it forces you to root for the brother who is the underdog at that moment, and unfortunately that is usually Sam.

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  9. Vampires in Supernatural are not irredeemable evil, remember Lenore? She preferred to die before letting herself become controlled by bloodlust.


    On the other hand, with Ruby it was pointed out that, yeap, all demons are evil to the bone. Though Meg has been giving mixed signals of lately.


    At the end, demons are several shades darker, vampires at least are more capable of empathy in this show. So yeah, it's not the same, so Sam better not bring this up.


    Of course, we don't know how "good" Benny is, so I wouldn't discard seeing his head on a pike along the way XD

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  10. I'm kind of tired when the conflict between the brothers is presented as "We are through FOREVAH!!!" It's like when they die, you just know it won't last.


    Unless it is touched upon as if they might be really growing apart, I really don't care anymore. I mean, the fear of sepparation has been really cheapened through eight seasons, so unless it feels FOR REAL, yeah, don't care.

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  11. Well of course Meg has been giving mixed signals. DEAN decided to trust her even after she murdered Jo and Ellen. So of course Dean trusting a demon will turn out to be 100% the right thing to do.

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  12. In the last episode we saw Benny call Dean from a funeral, as he kept sneaking glances at the coffin while he talked about all of the "choices" out of Purgatory. Since he's been dead for 50 years, and it's unlikely he was attending a friend's funeral, I think we were meant to assume he had made a bad choice already.


    It looks like Benny is going to be Dean's Rumy - an old monster friend who once saved Dean's life, but is now dropping bodies, and is going to manipulate his ass ten ways from Sunday.

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  13. Ben Edlund Wrote this episode and said this is going to be focused on vampires on boats AKA "vampirates" and remember on the season 8 premiere when dean was going towards the gravesite, there was a tombstone that said "Laffite". Jean Laffite was a French Pirate, so I'm wondering if he has anything to do with this episode. I thought it would be a good foresight if this actually occurred in the episode.

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  14. Benny is going to be a manipulative influence no doubt, and Sam's
    words will probably fall on deaf ears for a while as Benny is part of a
    club he will never be able to become a member of. As for Dean trusting Benny it was right for Dean to trust Benny in purgartory but not once they are out. But guess that we will see how it plays out. Especially if Cas comes back as I can't see even
    mad Cas trusting Benny.

    On a side note interesting that Meg started out interacting with Sam mostly at first then mostly with Dean. What with her suddenly becoming a pupil of Alaistair and all.

    Also Ruby's knife, Sam seemed to use it more in season 5 and now seems more Dean's toy.

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  15. Urgh, the bias in this fandom. Teaming up with Meg was the only choice they had, it's not like they became "buddies" and went shopping together.

    You can't compare an "enemy mine" situation to actually believing that a demon is good.

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  16. Well if it turns like that, then Dean is just being played like a fool. I have more trouble with that than Dean trusting a monster with whom he shared a traumatic experience.

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  17. It's realistic that Dean would come to trust Benny after going through a combat situation with him. But Dean is now acting on emotions rather than logic, so it's also realistic that he's primed for manipulation. This is similar to Ruby playing on Sam's emotions after he watched Dean be dragged off to Hell.

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  18. It is highly possible, and maybe what would make more sense, but I really want to see a subversion of "If you trust in a monster, you get bit in the butt" trope.

    But if you are right, and it's framed by Dean's emotional responses being negligent of a threat and about how bad he wanted to trust, it would be a nice way to explore it. Cause you know, angst! What I mean, is that even if the situation ends up being a parallel to Sam trusting Ruby, I'd like for the emotional aspect to be handled differently (more angst!)

    So I want either that, or Benny just being good, yeah.

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  19. That is exactly how I feel.

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  20. It was not the only choice they had. It was the way the writers wrote the story. The could have very easily written it differently. As for all demons being evil, even Jared said he didn't know until the end if Ruby was going to be evil or not. It's just how the writers went with the story.

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  21. Sam and Amy shared a traumatic story. As young teens Sam's life was threatened and Amy killed her mother to save Sam. But Dean disagreed and killed her and the fandom generally agreed. So if Benny starts killing, and he probably has, then Dean needs to kill him. Past alliances don't count for anything.

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  22. Well, yeah! If push comes to shove Dean cannot be an hypocrite, and if he is, it should be pointed out.

    But thus far so much is just speculation (What has Benny done after leaving Purgatory) and there are enough differences between Amy and Benny thus far to make the decision harder on Dean. It's not just a random person of his past that saved his life once, it's the person that he spent the past year surviving with in a hellish dimension. Dean's affections would be more compromised.

    Again, this would make him an hypocrite if Benny starts killing again. But what I would find more interesting is how would Sam react: He has always been the kinder one, so I would like to see his reaction to an "Amy" situation with the roles reversed.

    But again, if things go the same path (my monster friend is killing again) it would seem rehash-ey nonetheless even if the repercussions are handled differently. Because it either becomes an Amy or a Ruby, and what would be the point, really?

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  23. I'm along for the ride, even if I have little issues here and there (like brothers fighting over things they have already fought over before), I think I'm going to enjoy this season a lot. I like the flashbacks, and the main plot of closing the gates of Hell.

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  24. I can see why this one was called a very emotional episode. Not sure how I feel about that though.

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  25. Yeah, but still there were limited choices and again, it was not a trust issue as "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" thing: It was more of a calculated risk than "My BFF is a demon" It was a sensible choice

    And about the demons being evil, after Ruby we KNOW that, (I don't really blame Sam that much for his mess up with her) so that is a moot point.

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  26. Didn't we kind of see the 'Amy' situation reversed with Dean's daughter. Sam pulled the trigger and he even brought up Dean's you kill the monster speech.

    I know you can argue that he did more because she came to kill Dean rather than a similar sitution with Amy, but they had guns to the girl's knife and she hadn't killed anyone at that point even though she was threatening to do so.
    Where as Dean didn't kill Amy's kid when he faced him but told him if he killed anyone he would.

    If they are rehashing the old my monster friend is doing stuff by having Dean be totally manipulate by Benny they should rehash it more in a Ruby sort of fashion rather than Amy seeing how the time Dean and Benny spent in each other's company.

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  27. So, almost any scenario would feel like it has been done before XD If I had to chose on of them, I would prefer a Ruby-like one, that was a very compelling one with all the sex and violence and mind screw for Sammy. (Well, Dean and Benny would have less sex)

    But yeah! It would be more refreshing that Benny was actually a good guy, an honest one. Then he can get off the wagon and would be more "I thought I could change, Dean, I really did" type of deal; that would be angst of a new flavor.

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  28. Blood Brother sounds awesome! Can't wait!

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  29. I wouldn't mind that sort of Benny, a honest trying to get along and keep his nose clean but finding he couldn't. I wouldn't mind either that if he tries to manipulate Dean for purely selfish reasons, to have someone he knows he can pal around with and to talk to that knows what he is going through, you he is suffering Vampire PTSD.

    It would be different than everyone having some huge end game to explain their actions.

    As for the sex aspect could be happening, so could some blood thing similar to Sam and Ruby's- just don't think they'd put that on screen. Though maybe that is why they keep having Benny call Dean Brother.

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  30. As much as I have wanted the "if you trust a monster it bites you in the butt" trope to be overturned. I am even more sick of the "whatever Sam feels is wrong, wrong, wrong and Dean is perfect in his judgement" trope. So no, I don't want Benny to be good. If Sam's emotions about Amy clouded his judgement on how to treat her, then Dean's emotions should be just as incapacitating.

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  31. If you really think that "whatever Sam feels is wrong, wrong, wrong and Dean is perfect in his judgement" I will judge you based on your bias. If you refuse the concept of Benny possibly being good on principle, I will judge you based on your pettiness.

    If you choose a side between the brothers, please just don't talk to me.

    I'm sorry I'm not sorry.

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  32. Yeap. I just think it would be harder to redo the "I trusted a monster, I got screwed" trope than just make Benny actually good. But there's still room for another take, like Benny being manipulative, but feeling remorse for lying to Dean.

    There's a strong bond between Dean and Benny, and if it turns out that he indeed has nefarious plans (remorsefully or not)and tries to pit Dean against Sam, maybe it would be interesting to see Dean understanding why Sam trusted Ruby, ala "in his shoes". But that is just wild speculation.

    The "carnality" aspect of Benny and Dean's relationship (y'know, if we are thinking on a Ruby/Sam scenario) could be very well be based on Benny feeding off Dean. That add several levels of effed up and codependency.

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  33. Absolutely. The writers have spent years making Sam the guy who is always wrong while Dean always ends up having perfect judgement. I'm really afraid this is going to happen again. Well, I'm still going to go the entire season to see what they do.

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  34. Personally I'd take Bennysimply being selfish in his manipulations over being truely evil. He's been stuck in a hole for 50 years and the only person who he can talk to or get to understand about it would be Dean and understandable if that means hetries to take Dean along on any ride he goes on.

    If they are going to do the whole 'you can't really trust a monster' then I'd like them to do that as it would be more interesting way than just paralleling Ruby who had a master plan in what she did.

    But saying that I'd also like it if the end of the Sam and Amelia relationship was more to do with whatever makes her 'fragile' rather than Sam's being in a state over losing everyone/thing.

    It would be different to have the boys have a breakup that shows that normal life is just as screwed up as their hunting one is.

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  35. This excites me because everyone involved praised it so much, and even Edlund seemed excited by his own script. Sound complex and angsty, all happy places for me.

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  36. Can see that we have part of Benny getting a ride meaning he had to feed off of Dean so we could get that.

    Though after the end of last nights episode can also see that part of the reason Dean may listen to Benny not only being time spent in a foxhole but alsot Benny right now maybe is the only 'person' communicating to Dean who Dean feels is in a better position than he first met him in.

    Sam quit and tried to find a life but only did that after Dean was gone, right now we know that Cas ran to save Dean in purgatory, all their friends and family is dead, Kevin has ran and everyone they save probably never wants to see Sam and Dean again.

    So it is very scary that the only person who probably can give Dean hope about his life personally meaning something good may be a vampire.

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  37. Just watch the episode and see how everything turns out and then talk.... :)

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  38. I'm sorry, I've contacted the admins at this site several times and I've never seen your name as being one. Therefore I will continue to express my opinions whether your approve or not.

    I don't care if you are sorry. I do care that you are trying to shut down any opinion that clashes with yours. I won't shut up, just because you order me to.

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  39. I'm not shutting down your opinion: I don't CARE for your biased opinion. I said don't talk to ME anymore; You can't force me to listen to you, I have no obligation to engage you. Express your opinion all you want, this is a public forum; that your prerogative, gurl. Work that free speech like you knows it. I really don't care.

    Just remember that you replied to me and now you are making a scene because I don't like your opinions (I find them appalling and wish to discuss them no further)So again, express your opinion all you want, but don't expect ME to give a damn.

    I'm sorry I'm not sorry.

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  40. With any luck the brother strain will be resolved before winter hiatus although that would only give them 4 episodes after this one to resolve it. I think Benny will play a big role. I'm just not sure in what yet.

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  41. As per Jeremy Carver, it will be "a very emotional episode." It will also be Benny and Cas centric according to Singer and Misha. Sounds packed.

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  42. I think Meg is looking out for herself as always. If helping herself meant screwing over the Winchesters, she'd do it in a second. It's just that their goals were aligned for awhile. I've no doubt Meg would love to take over Crowley's place and become the Big Bad.

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  43. I like this plan better since we've been through "manipulated by (fill in blank) leads to world-shattering disaster" two times already and I hated it the first time. New plan please. I like that idea about Sam and Amelia too because it would give it more depth than the story currently has. I'd really like to avoid the "Sam sleeps with a monster" story line again too. Too much recycled plot going on if either of these happen.

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  44. I would like to avoid both Ruby and Amy, being that they were 2 of my least favorite plot points. If Benny did "fall off the wagon" so to speak, then it would be a Madison type thing but since that is just a one-off episode I'd rather have that. In 8 seasons, it is kind of hard to keep everything fresh but I'd hope we weren't going down the exact same path we've already trod twice just with different characters. I like the idea of Benny at least trying to be "good" and failing. I'm good with Dean having to kill Benny too although unlike you, I'm not a fan of angst and there would be plenty of that.

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  45. Didn't think about Benny feeding off Dean but now that you mention it, I can see that happening. Interesting take.

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  46. Hmm, I was thinking they were the only one really connecting because Benny is the only one who knew what Dean went through in Purgatory - again the foxhole mentality. This is a totally different thinking about it. Thanks for giving me something else to think about.

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  47. I too am tired of the writers coming up with ever more bizarre situations to cause brother rifts. Amy was bad enough. The whole thing is boring now. Perhaps they should try having the brothers on the same page and the conflict coming from outside the brother relationship. It would be a novel way of approaching things and far more original than they way they are now.

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  48. Hmmm, interesting. I would love to get a little history into Supernatural. I know we are going to be focused on Benny before he was turned into a vampire for a couple episodes. Good call.

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  49. I'm glad someone else likes the idea that they should avoid the Sam sleeps with a monster again storyline as well the whole manipulated by 'x' leads to end of world. Think Dean made a comment last season about them doing that 3 years in a row, didn't he?


    If they went with real life played more in breaking Sam and the girl up rather than Sam's hunting/state of mind then it would be a great change, so I really hope that figure standing outside the Amelia's house was there for her not Sam. (which I know makes me kind of sick)

    But I think it would be interesting to see him actually come to terms that even without hunting being involved he can be just as bad normality as everyone else. Because I even though he gets it in his head I think in his heart Sam has romanticized normality over the years compared hunting. (well it seemed that way in heaven - everything was wonderful when hunting was out of the way and probably reinforced by the whole demons manipulating every relationship and the actions of Souless Sam bringing Dean and Lisa's relationship to a head).


    Plus from what was shown with his leaving Amelia and her watching him go doesn't really fit with his description to Dean as 'Finding something he never had before'.

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  50. You are welcome

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