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Ratings News - 2nd October 2012 *Full Tables Posted*

Oct 2, 2012

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Metered Market Monday Ratings
ABC Wins; NBC Most Improved

Monday 10/01/12
Metered Market Results

Household
Rating/Share
ABC 8.8/13
NBC 7.2/11
CBS 5.4/ 8
Fox 3.7/ 5
CW 0.9/ 1

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-Percent Change from the Year-Ago Evening (on 10/03/11)
NBC: +148, ABC: -17, CBS: -31, Fox: -32, Fox: -41

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-Winners:
Dancing With the Stars (ABC), The Voice (NBC)

-Honorable Mention:
Castle (ABC), Revolution (NBC)

-Down But Not Out:
How I Met Your Mother (CBS), 2 Broke Girls (CBS), Mike & Molly (CBS)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
Partners (CBS), IHeartradio Music Festival (CW), The Mob Doctor (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
The tide has shifted on Monday and it is in NBC’s direction. ABC still leads in the overnights, but year-to-year the network slipped by 17 percent. NBC is the network to beat among adults 18-49 (and other young adult demos) thanks to bona fide hit The Voice. CBS and Fox, meanwhile, dipped by a steep 31 and 32 percent, respectively, from one year earlier. And two of the Monday freshman series, Partners on CBS and The Mob Doctor on Fox, have sprung a leak.

In the 8-10 p.m. battle of Dancing With the Stars on ABC versus The Voice on NBC, the All-Star edition Dancing still reigned supreme in the overnights with a 9.6 rating/14 share. The Voice was second with a healthy 8.1/12, and that 8.1 overnight household rating was up by a whopping 170 percent from The Sing Off one year earlier (3.0/ 4 on 10/03/11). Dancing With the Stars dropped by 19 percent (versus an 11.8/18 on 10/03/11), and both reality/competitions qualify as “winners.” The Voice will, no doubt, lead the evening in the key demos.

Castle on ABC at 10 p.m. finished first with a 7.2/12, which was 10 percent below the year-ago evening (8.0/13 on 10/03/11) with retention of 77 percent out of the 9:30 p.m. portion of Dancing With the Stars (9.4/14). Week three of competing The Revolution on NBC tied Hawaii Five-O for second (each with a 5.4/ 9). And that, comparably, slipped by 14 percent from week two (three-week overnight track: 7.9/13 – 6.3/11 – 5.4/ 9), with retention of 65 percent from the 9:30 p.m. portion of The Voice (8.3/12). But Revolution still more than doubled short-lived year-ago occupant The Playboy Club (2.6/ 4 on 10/03/11) thanks to the lead-in support. And it will win the time period among adults 18-49.

If Revolution can settle in now, NBC definitely has something. If it keeps dropping, Smash is waiting in the midseason wings.

CBS, no doubt, has miscalculated Monday this season by moving Two and a Half Men off the night, introducing Partner and shifting sophomore 2 Broke Girls to 9 p.m. How I Met Your Mother was on the 8 p.m. map with a 5.7/ 9 in the overnights (#3: -16 percent from the year-ago evening). And the erosion, of course, stems from the added competition from The Voice on NBC. But week two of lead-out Partners is a real problem at a fourth-place 4.0/ 6 at 8:30 p.m. (which slipped by 11 percent from the opening 4.5/ 7 on Sept. 24). While no one expected Partners to match former time period levels of 2 Broke Girls, year-to-year erosion of 47 percent (versus a 7.5/11 for 2 Broke Girls on 10/03/11) is too steep. While 2 Broke Girls was building from How I Met Your Mother last season, last night Partners dropped by 30 percent.

2 Broke Girls at 9 p.m. did perk up to a 6.1/ 9 -- 52 percent above Partners. But that was 46 percent below Two and a Half Men one year earlier (11.3/16 on 10/03/11, which was still inflated by the then recent arrival of Ashton Kutcher). Mike & Molly followed with a 5.8/ 8 at 9:30 p.m., which held 95 percent of the 2 Broke Girls lead-in. And aforementioned Hawaii Five-O tied Revolution on NBC for second with a 5.4/ 9. Year-to-year, Hawaii Five-O slipped by 21 percent (versus a 6.8/11 on 10/03/11). Needless to say, CBS is opening the week on a serious down trending note.

Over at fading Fox, Bones at 8 p.m. scored a respectable fourth-place 4.8/ 7 in the overnights at 8 p.m. (which was down by 19 percent from the 5.9/ 9 for Terra Nova one year earlier). But week three of The Mob Doctor remained lost at 2.6/ 4 (#4) at 9 p.m., which was down by 62 percent from former time period occupant House (6.8/10 on 10/03/11). Three-week overnight track for The Mob Doctor: 3.7/ 6 – 2.7/ 4 – 2.6/ 4). Tick, tock…the cancellation clock is ticking.

Last was The CW, which scored a mere 0.9/ 1 in the overnights for two-hour special, IHeartradio Music Festival. Next Monday on The CW will feature the returns of 90210 and the final season of Gossip Girl.

Source: Nielsen Media Research

Source: Marc Berman@TVMediaInsights

68 comments:

  1. Poor Partners! I really like it.

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  2. I know that quality has little to do with ratings (Two and a Half Men X Pushing Daisies, etc etc), but I was expecting Castle to have higher numbers.

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  3. I sincerely hope that Five-O is up

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  4. Castle numbers are nothing to worry about... It's a well stablished show with a huge and loyal fanbase that gives +10 million viewers and +2.0 Demo to ABC. It makes(along DWTS) ABC win the Mondays... Castle fans have nothing to worry about...
    Now, as a hard HIMYM fan, it seems that this will indeed the final Season.
    Five-0 needs the 88 episodes for sindication, so no worries there, but it seems that part of their viewership move to Revolution, while Castle seems pretty steady.
    Also, Revolution MUST stay there and not drop another point. As a newcomer and a serialized show, it MUST maintain a certain audience. Revolution isn't a show that you can skip one week or two like, for example, Castle(Never seen Five-0, but i'm planing on cathcing up)...

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  5. Revolution better last.. THat is a GREAT show.

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  6. Yeah! But, i don't know if it's just me, but i prefer it to be a 13 episodes per Season show.
    I mean, the writing it's great, the acting too and the artistic departmen is just magnificent; but i'm kinda worry that, being a serialized show, it having like 24 episodes turns out to be a bad thing... People might lose a couple of episodes and just abandon the show :S
    I believe that a 13 episodes season would be so much better to the show. I prefer having 13 instead of 24, but having it for at least 5 years :/

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  7. I disagree, I think Castle might be canceled at the end of the season or (this is more likely) get a midseason order a la Body of Proof to replace a failed show. Its ratings are not good. It got a 2.1 for its premiere, which means it will be hitting 1s pretty soon. That is not good, regardless of how you spin it. They will also have enough episodes for syndication at the end of the season, so that's fine. I think that next year we will see a completely revamped ABC Monday (which btw is not winning, by a mile... CBS and NBC are betating it easily). This year they were focusing on Sunday. Next year, with Sunday taken care of (even if 666 is replaced, Wednesdays established and Thursday still taken care of by Grey's), they will no doubt turn their attention to Mondays (and Tuesdays) where DWTS is fading more and more and needs to be replaced asap. Castle's best hope is that a large majority of the new dramas fail (including the two midseason dramas) and that it beats Scandal in the ratings. We shall see.

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  8. partners is great.. i dont get it.

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  9. Well, you have a good argument there(BTW, i believe Castle did a 2.5 in the Premier)...
    The thing with Castle is that gets profits from another places. I know that it has a low demo(Still seems weird for me, here it's all about the millions), but it got great sindication deals, and there are books(i start watching the show 'cause of the Nikki Heat novels, i read those and then started watching the show) and comics that sells a kinda well... A friend of mine, who is a total fangirl of this show, order a coffe( yeah, a brand of coffe from the show... what a weird way to promote a show) from amazon. Also it got huge sindications deals with TNT and Cuatro(a tv network from Spain) and a lot other places.
    I mean, it's weird... Season 2 got pretty low ratings but still got a full season pick up and an early renewal(the same with Season 3)...
    It's just weird... I believe another show with those ratings would be axed a long time ago... Maybe the thing that almost all new dramas sucked big time helped, beats me...
    Like i said, this Demo Key thing is something i still don't get... There's the total viewers, the key demo, the 25 markets, etc, etc... X_X

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  10. Well, the total viewers vs demo thing is not really a discussion. I mean, I understand that it is a hard concept to grasp, that viewers over 49 just don't matter, but that's how it works. Regardless of we agreeing with it or not, there is no point in looking at the number of viwers that Castle get, they are competely irrelevant for a show survival (look at Harry's Law last season number of viewers and look at New Girl's number of viewers). So, the millions Castle get don't matter at all for its renewal prospects. You mention the others sources of income. While that's all very nice, the general consensus is that those revenues (as international sales, itunes sales, etc) represent a very veyr low percentage of the revenues a show makes. In other words, they are not, by any means, enough to compensate a show's poor ratings if that's the case. I do know the numbers, of course, but this is what is generally believed by most critics/ tv experts. Also, and even though syndication is a good thing (meaning that any episode prodduced would be syndicated), when shows get to these high number of seasons, the cast embers have to renovate their contracts and always demand more money. At that point, it gets tricky whether or not it is still profitable to renew the show. If it pulls high ratings... Sure, look at Ellen Pompeop and Patrick Dempsey from Grey's. But if it pulls only marginal ratings, it won't be good enough anymore and the network will be better off trying a new show that could pull the same ratings for a much lower cost.

    Anyway, as I've said, my prediction at this point (and it's still way too early in the season) is that Castle won't be canceled, but that it won't be on the fall schedule either, unless this is a super bad season for ABC drama wise (which could also happen).

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  11. I also believe there aren´t reasons to worry about Castle; looks like it leaded the 10.00 p.m., in front of Revolution. It's a beloved show, and I think and hope it lasts:)

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  12. I believe if the show is relatively cheap to produce, and still pulls these numbers, it won't be cancelled this season just yet. ATM it seems a lot of shows are down from last year, and I just don't see ABC taking the risk and putting up some freshman drama up against other 'heavy hitters' on mondays. Castle's doing allright, I'd fear more about H50 which seems to be springing a leak compared to last season.

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  13. @DarkUFO


    Does this mean Five-0 is up or down from last week? I'm really about this shows ratings.

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  14. With its current ratings, I think Castle would be around next fall, yeah, but the thing is that I suspect a major ratings drop will happen during the season. Last year it premiered to a 3.2 I think but by the end of the year it was pulling 2.1s regularly. If a similar trend takes place this season (not to mention the bachelorrete weeks) it will be a disaster. And as for H50, I agree, I am very worried about it. Not in a "will it be back next year" kind of way, because I think syndication will save it but in a "i thought this show would be around fo 6 or 7 years and i am realising it wont" kind of way.

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  15. We won't know for sure for about another hour when the full ratings come out.

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  16. (BTW, i believe Castle did a 2.5 in the Premier)...it was adjusted down in the finals so did get a 2.1 in the end.

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  17. So I take it no early demos today?

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  18. I've not seen any currently. We should have the full overnights within the next 30 mins :)

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  19. And the plot thickens. Revolution is beating out H50 and Castle in Demos

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  20. Hawaii Five-0hawaii2 Broke Girls3.42 Broke Girls at ::) Hawaii Five-O 1.9 ahahahahahahaha ajjajajajjaja

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  21. Yeah it's very very worrying, I really thought it would be up this week, to 2.5-ish at least, but instead it's down!?! WTF at that really. Two factors tho. 1: DWTS is also down ratings wise, and 2: Revolution is new, so ppl will dvr castle and h50 while watching Revolution for now.


    But yeah unexpected, it makes me really worry.

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  22. And as predicted Revolution continues dropping...Should be canceled at half season...

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  23. Unlikely. It's thrashing the competition currently.

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  24. If that's the case I'd rather it be on cable

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  25. Bones is doing good, with all the competition and without a lead...so dont worry :D

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  26. well they started at 4.1 then dropped to 3.5 and now 3.2, I'm convinced it's the new flash forward/terra nova/alcatraz/the event. I don't want to be pessimistic though but at that rate ....

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  27. Honestly, it's to be expected. With DWTS as a lead in with only 0.2 demo more than Castle, I guess any other show ABC would put in that slot would do just as bad, or worse.

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  28. I really hope HIMYM ends this season. This show, to me, has become boring...I don't laugh anymore and everything that happens is expected.

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  29. What is the definition of good ratings in this day and age really? Everything just keeps going down every year, so I find it hard to judge new shows' performance

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  30. OMG!! these ratings are very bad for Hawaii Five-O i am getting really scared now

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  31. How is the iHeart on CW a loser when it got a 0.7 18-49 rating (and yes it was pre-empted in Chicago) but that still means 0.5-0.6!

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  32. None of those really even started out strong and held throughout the season. Revolution started out strong and is holding. If it drops below a 2.5 it will definitely be canceled. I am expecting it to even out around 2.9-3.0 which is likely going to be renewed. Plus the DVR numbers kick the show up to a 5.0 in the rating which is huge.

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  33. OK, it's just that Castle has an older audience then. More people watched it, than watched Revolution, but just not the right demographic.

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  34. I was under the impression it was only a 7 episode first season show. That means for a second season it would be 12-15 at the most.

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  35. True, they did start strong but It just reminds me of commander in chief who started huge and then collapse in a few episodes(and that show had good reviews unlike revolution_. I know it was years ago and a complete different type of show but my point is that no successful show is immuned to cancellation and that when ratings start dropping that much it's not a good sign.

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  36. Revolution doing great! The DVR numbers are stellar. I expect the ratings to even out around a 2.9-3.0 live.

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  37. Partners is only great if you never watch another comedy in your life. Every situation/joke has been seen a million times before.

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  38. Or younger for that matter XD anyone below 18 or above 49 doesn't count (?)

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  39. Look at our Cancellation Table it will give you a rough idea on how shows are performing

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  40. It is worrying...They took a risk by finally putting them together...Now that the thrill of waiting for them to be together is gone they're gonna have to find something to keep the viewers watching.

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  41. Yeah, it got a 10 episodes order a think... I just hope it didn't get a back 9, cause that could seriously ruin the show.
    I trust Kripke(The first 5 Seasons of SN were great) but idk; When Fringe got serialized it lost like 6 millions viewers... :S

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  42. I just watched the Cancellation/Renovation charts here at SpoilerTV and Castle is loking safe with 1.61 and Five-0 is at 2.26... I don't get it...
    Why's that? Is Castle such a cheap show that with those ratings is still very sustainable? I think it will maintain in between 1.8-2.2, but why is that a "looking safe" status?

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  43. Nicolas, as is explained in RED, until we get more data the results are very inaccurate. We still have over 30 shows that have not even premiered yet this season. So until all those shows have premiered and we have several weeks of ratings it's very hard to get an accurate picture.

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  44. I enjoyed the last two episodes more than many of last season's put together. The ratings are declining because of its lead-in, but my real fear is that people will perceive it as "the moonlighting curse strikes again" kind of thing. I just hope the writers don't get side-tracked by this, cause they are doing an amazing job lately and I'd hate for them to change things just because of superstition.

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  45. About Castle... Well, like I already said, I think Americans should watch it on tv, not via links. Links are for the people outside of the US, who would have to wait a year or more othervise to see the season that's airing now. And that doesn't even matter, because the ratings are only counted in the US. I really don't understand why is it so hard for US citizens to wait another hour or two to watch an episode. Hour longer wont kill you, and it would help the show. We don't want cancellation, now, do we?

    Peace

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  46. I'm not worried yet. Five-0 has never had 2 other hit shows (at least at the current moment) to compete with. The key will be with Revolution. After its premiere was so highly rated, I knew it would start off strong. But, it also has the highest chance of rapidly declining, which started happening last night. Last Monday (9/25) it got a 3.5. Last night (10/1) it got a 3.2. For being only 1 week later, a .3 drop is significant. NBC had better hope it can stabilize. If it goes down the drain, Five-0 will start getting more viewers simply because of less competition. The other problem is that it doesn't have as strong lead in support. DWTS and The Voice are both very strong lead ins for Castle and Revolution. CBS's comedies aren't performing as strongly, and that's effecting Five-0's ratings. Right now, CBS simply has to respect the fact that Five-0 is facing strong new competition as well as weaker lead ins.

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  47. Hi,
    I am from Europe and I don't understand the importance of the rating because from where I come from only the number of viewers matter. Could one of you explain to me the concept of tv rating and why everybody seems to be worried for shows with a correct number of total viewers but with bad rating ?

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  48. Hi

    In America, it's not the Total number of viewers that is important, it's the number of viewers who are between 18-49 years of age. The larger the 18-49 number the better it is for a show as this is what advertisers use. A Show with a large 18-49 number can get more money from advertisers which makes it more likely that the show will be renewed.

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  49. I've never seen Castle because of Five-0, but I want to start watching it. If the writers are good, putting them together finally shouldn't matter. The whole put them together for good = killed show thing is one of the worst pieces of BS on tv. Chuck was able to do it, and CSI: NY was also able to do it with Danny and Lindsay. And NY got them together like 4 years ago and it's still going. I really hate that the together for good = killed show theory is believed in so much, and even more used so much by show runners. One of the problems with using will they/won't they so much is that it often gets overdone or used too many times in the same show if the show runners and writers aren't careful. If this happens, it becomes ridiculous and not believable because it no longer fits in the storyline of where the characters are in their development and therefore doesn't make sense. 2 perfect examples of this are with Chuck, and maybe soon but hopefully not, The Big Bang Theory. For Chuck, there was a 2 episode arc and a 3rd episode near the end of season 2 that were both key. In the arc, an MI6 agent helped out Chuck's team and it could've been really cool. But instead, they broke up Chuck and Sarah in a very weak, ridiculous, contrived, and very obviously intentional way, which killed any possible believability. Then they had the MI6 agent hitting on Sarah at every chance he got (and he got a lot of chances), which was extremely annoying. That arc caused the angst to go from still tolerable to untolerable, and from believable to not believable. Then, in the 3rd episode, C&S made irreversible, non-erasable, and non-undoable progress together. Then season 3 started, and what did the show runners do? Not only did they reverse, erase, and undo the progress they made in that episode, but they did it in a really bad and painful way. They tried to explain it away as a mistake by both Chuck and Sarah, but that didn't work because the rest of the 1st half of season 3 was all based on it and the result was a huge and very flawed mess that was a train wreck. The 2nd half was much better because they fixed things. For Big Bang Theory, it hasn't gotten not believable yet, but if Leonard and Penny break up again and/or he starts dating someone else, it will reach that point because they've already been there and done that with Priya so it would be redundant.

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  50. I see your point but Danny and Lindsay are part of an ensemble cast where there (except for mac) no real lead, they're all on the same level. Becket and Castle are the two leads(not that the other characters aren't important but they're the two most important). So putting them together and turning their love affair into the new main plot of the story can't be compared with putting danny and lindsay together, especially since we barely see them at home or kissing.

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  51. Also unlikely because it's on NBC and they need all the ratings they can get right now. It would probably have to get into the 1's for them to consider cancellation.

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  52. Exactly :) I think it's their highest rated scripted show currently?

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  53. Five-0 is I guess semi-serialized. There are several overall arcs that are taking place, but they don't make progress on them every episode.

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  54. Exactly! I think the important is the number of viewers, and int that Castle is okay. There are people under 18 and up 49 that watch it, so... And as we saw last week, Castle is the most popular show in terms of popularity (english is not my first language, so I don't know the exact words, but there was a poll last week about popularity, I think)...

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  55. I agree, I watch online because I'm in Europe.... and here there are a lot of countries airing it, so no, we don't want a cancellation!:)

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  56. So, if I understand that table, looks like Castle is out of danger, for now:)

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  57. Yes, for now :) Although the season has only just started and there lots of other shows yet to air.

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  58. 1.9. Not good. Not good at all. What's happening to Castle? The fact that the main couple is now together hasn't touched the show's quality.If anything,it increased it. I'm worried. This sucks,Castle is supposed to be the one show I never have to worry about.

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  59. Pretty much. If I was from the U.S.,I wouldn't miss Castle monday for the world. Sadly,I'm not,so I gotta watch it online somewhere cause in my country we're in freaking season 3.I really wish I could contribute to my favorite show's ratings,but I can't. Only you americans can,so turn on your damn tvs at 10 pm.I really don't want Castle to be aced.

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  60. I wouldn't say that as a bad number for Five-0 but lowest for the season but judging from Revolution & Castle it's still gaining momentum it'll easily climb up with DWTS finishes

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  61. ABC was so far ahead that it can slip and still hold the lead for overnights, not bad :) also, Revolution will cave soon, its very one dimensional, hopefully they change it up because after three episodes you already have a whole story.

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  62. А мне этот сериал очень нравится.

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