It's the final showdown for the best Supernatural episode in season 7. It was another close race to the finals with Death's Door barely beating out Meet the New Boss by 3 votes. Things have certainly gone down to the wire in the last two rounds. Will it do that again this time? Our last two episodes standing are Survival of the Fittest and Death's Door. Its the finale with the shocking ending vs the best character death tribute on the show. While not the two I would chose to battle for the crown, I am good with either one winning. So who will it be? Get your votes in and don't forget to comment below. Who did you vote for? Who did you want to win at the beginning of the contest? What was the funniest episode? The most intense? The saddest? Sound off on all things season 7 in the comments. While you're at it, don't forget to add your favorite quotes for The Benders and Shadow. We are coming to the end of season one for quotes.
Remember voting for the best episode will be open for slightly under 24 hours (about 11 PM St. Louis time) but nominations last for one week. There's still time to get nominations in for most season 1 quotes.
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This was a tough one. I wante meet te new boss to make it because I reckon it was this seasons best episode.
ReplyDeleteIn the end I voted survival of the fittest. I loved both episodes so I really think I only voted for survival of the fittest because it was the most recent one I've seen and I haven't had the time to rewatch deaths door et.
Survival of the fittest wasn't the best finale we've ha but it was still awesome and that cliffhanger at the end has left me so excited for next season.
Hmm. I think I'll have to go for Survival of the Fittest, because of the way it made me excited for season 8. I haven't been this excited since season 4. Also, I chose it to thank Sera Gamble for her "swan song".
ReplyDeleteSeason 7:
Best episode: Hello Cruel World
Funniest episode: How to Win Friends...
Best action episode: Slash Fiction
Saddest episode: Deaths Door
Best Emotional episode: Deaths Door
Worst Episode: Adventures in Babysitting
Most complex episode: Repo Man/Reading is Fundamental
Very true.
ReplyDeleteIt's as if when the writers wrote their episodes this year, each one portrayed the characters as they personally felt they should be, and with the very minimum of co-ordination between them, thus making them act differently from one ep. to another.
The characteristics they had before have been altered, and Sam and Dean are coming across different as to what they once were.
I think in the earlier seasons the various episodes that formed the season story-arc were mapped out far more logically, whereas in this last one it seems as if they have been thrown together any old way, and any tension concerning the big bad has been practically neutralized too.
The ghost part was ooc, the line about raising them was rewriting season 1. Raising someone implies being a primary caretaker of a child. People don't "raise" adults. Bobby may have occasionally babysat and been a family friend while they were growing up, but the story has been clear that John raised them.
ReplyDeleteVoted for Death's Door. Liked Survival of the Fittest, liked cliffhanger even when i all season have feeling that Dean somehow ends up in purgotory ( i hate when my feelings about cliffhngers turns be right).
ReplyDeleteQuotes:
The Benders:
Dean: "Oh eat me. Oh no, no, no, no wait. You actually might."
Dean: "I'll say it again. Demons I get. People are crazy."
Jenkins: "Why don't you give it up Sammy, there's no way out" Sam:
"Don't... call me... Sammy"
Shadow:
Landlady: "
You guys said you're with the alarm company?" Dean: "That's right" Landlady: "Well no offense, but, your alarm's about as useful as boobs on a man."
Sam: "I think there's something weird going on here." Dean: "Yeah,tell me about it. She wasn't even that into me !"
This is exactly the kind of Meg I miss and that's why I just cannot stand her in her current meatsuit.
ReplyDeleteHere are my favourites from this season:
ReplyDelete1- Meet the New Boss: best premiere and definitely my favourite episode of the season. It had everything it needed, and felt more like a season finale than TMWKTM. Overall, it made me excited for the season.2- Death's Door: Bobby just couldn't have been better. After seven seasons, it was time to understand the man and his past.
3- The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo: Funniest episode of the season. So much fun! Loved it!
Honorable Mentions:
- Hello Cruel World (great follow up to the premiere... Bobby's house was a brutal loss)
- Slash Fiction (one of the best Leviathan eps)
- The Mentalists (my fav MOTW in a long time... thought I would hate it but loved it instead)
- Repo Man (fun demon episode. also, Lucifer was amazing)
- Party On, Garth (ghost Bobby, although hated by most, was actually really enjoyable in this one episode... it honestly made my week)
- There Will Be Blood (felt similar to Mother Dearest from last season... a great setup episode and great new supernatural vocabulary... Vamptonite FTW!)
- Survival of the Fittest (it was a crappy finale, but it was a supernatural finale, so it was better than half the crap on TV nowadays lol)
Very good point. No matter who became show runner, they would have received the same flack Sera did. The simple fact is that while Kripke was in charge, there were many, many complaints about what he was doing with the show - particularly in the latter parts. However, as soon as he stepped down he was placed on a pedestal that no future show runner could have matched. I think Sera got screwed with a sucky place to build from after season 5 too. She's leaving Carter with far better options. It's not that I think Sera was all aces as a show runner. She made her mistakes just like Kripke did. I just don't think she deserved the bile and hatred poured out on her from some in the fandom.
ReplyDeleteI loved early Dean. I wish a little more of him comes back next season. About ghosts, one of my cousins was visiting St. Louis and wanted to go to the Lemp Mansion which is supposed to be the most haunted building in Missouri. We took the tour and managed to be in the back corner. One in our party accidentally bumped into the table and people started talking about the ghost moving things. I laughed so hard I almost wept. When we explained that we had done it, the tour guide was not pleased. Later on she made the mistake of asking us if we felt the cold spot right where we were standing and if the area had suddenly seemed darker. We said no to both. And that was the end of our time at Lemp Mansion. I swear we are blacklisted from any future tours.
ReplyDeleteWow! That's an amazing amount of votes all of a sudden. We are at twice the number as usual. Very weird. I guess we got posted or retweeted somewhere.
ReplyDeleteAw, I still like Meg. I will say she is more fun when she's on top of her game and not running from Crowley, but she still tells it like ti is.
ReplyDeleteGot picked up on a couple of Tumblr sites :)
ReplyDeleteThere has been an amazing lack of continuity from one episode to another for many seasons now. I realize that writers do not focus on past details as much as fans do but sometimes it feels like they are all using Dean and Sam and others in their own personal sandbox and they don't care what the others have been doing. I agree that they should do a 149 episode 2 week marathon with all the writers and then have them brainstorm where Dean and Sam are as characters now. They need some basic building blocks that everyone is on board with and no one violates.
ReplyDeleteMy prediction is obviously wrong. There have been a whole lot of people voting in this poll. Over twice as many as have voted in any of the other polls, and it seems that they are all a fan of the finale. That's kind of a good thing since Death's Door already one the best s7 episode poll we did at midseason. Always good to have new blood.
ReplyDeleteThe cliffhanger was by far the best thing about the finale to me. It offers up so many new possibilities for next year and I hope they take advantage of them. I know they don't have the budget to make a great hodgepodge of monsters there but it would be cool to get more in the hellhounds vein. Something we really don't see except for in shadow and red eyes. Sometimes the stuff we don't see seems more scary than what we do.
ReplyDeleteStill haven't seen Survival of the Fittest (but watched There Will Be Blood last night, so I'm only one episode behind now ;)), but I think I would've voted for it, as I'm not a fan of Bobby-centric episodes, even if I admit Death's Door was great, just not great enough to be crowned season 7's best.
ReplyDeleteThe quotes:
I know a lot of people don't like the Benders, but you cannot deny there are some great quotes in this episode:
honorable mentions:
Dean: Eat me. Oh no no no wait, you actually might.
Dean: Yeah, Dean, kinda the black sheep of the family. Handsome, though.
2nd place:
Dean: When we were young, I pretty much pulled him from a fire. And ever since
then I've felt responsible for him, like it's my job to keep him safe.
Winner (and one of SPN's classic lines):
Dean: Demons I get. People are crazy.
Shadow:
honorable mention:
Sam: I mean, what are you gonna do when it’s all over?
Dean: It’s never gonna be over. There’s gonna be others. There’s always gonna be something to hunt.
2nd place:
Meg: I came, I saw, I conquered. Oh, and I met what's-his-name, something Michael Murray, at a bar.
Winner:
Dean: You, me, dad. I want us to be together again. To be a family again.
Cool! Maybe they will stick around for the Ultimate SPN Episode Competition up next.
ReplyDeleteAll 3 of those episodes were pretty bad in my view, but I chose AIB because it was utterly forgettable, inexcusable for a midseason premiere, after Deaths Door. Sort of like The Magnificent Seven.
ReplyDeleteI really loved the second half of season 7 as a whole, with only one specific episode standing out and giving me heartache and grief about character choices...Aside from a very few random detours, the mytharc(s) of seasons 1-5 were so damn good that it's hard to judge the show now. You are completely right, we are used to one kind of storytelling and are getting something else. I'm okay with that, as long as there is consistency in the way the stories are told. However, I can't help but want more serialization and less one-off's! I just enjoy the drama and character work so much more when it's built on something.
ReplyDeleteYep, remind me when it's up and I'll send out some retweets.
ReplyDeleteI want you to put up two polls - one for the best episode of first 5 seasons and other one for the entire series so far. I guess, its time to isolate the first five seasons from the last two seasons.
ReplyDeleteDefending Your Life - Most disappointing episode. When I first heard about the plot of this episode(before its airing), I thought this episode would bring tears out of my eyes. Sam defending as a lawyer on behalf of Dean, was itself a very promising thing in an episode and I expected so much. But all they did was concentrating on Jo Harvelle, which turned out to be disastrous and that sick Amy story. That episode had a huge scope for Sam and Dean dynamic, which writers made little use of. One of the worst episodes of entire series.
ReplyDeleteHow long the quote poll will last? If we go through the seven seasons, it could take a while.
ReplyDeletenot that I complain about that ;-)
A poll for a best scene by character could be fun.
Can't argue with that logic. It was a lousy way to open. I think that's the reason why I absolutely loathe Ghostfacers, Long-Distance Call, and Time is On My Side. We had so many more pressing issues at hand and these 3 just wasted my time.
ReplyDeleteActually I thought Jo was the best part of the episode. My biggest problem was disappointment also. I thought this episode was going to let Dean put down some of his guilt and handle the pressure better. Instead it lead to more wallowing. Plus they made Sam look like an idiot in the episode. Terrible all the way around.
ReplyDeleteI loved Survival of the Fittest. Death's Door was a good episode (heartbreaking, well written, well performed), but I was so surprised by how much I liked Survival of the Fittest that it just blew me away, especially the ending. It was by far, my favorite episode in the past 2 seasons.
ReplyDeleteLove that! The more opinions we have they faster hellatus goes by. Keep encouraging people to play with us.
ReplyDeleteSorry. Episodes have already been ranked by the number of votes they received at midseason. They will be in the contest by their ranking after we have a head-to-head for the wild card positions. That will start tomorrow. I've changed my mind and we will do the final round of the Best Comedy poll tonight, which will give me a little more time to make all the polls for the wild card positions.
ReplyDeleteWhy's that? Episodically, I think season seven is one of the best. Theres no reason to isolate them at all.
ReplyDeleteIt will take us 74 days (plus the days I'm on vacation and won't have access to the internet) to get through nominations. That puts us halfway through hellatus. The hangup will be when and for how long the Best Show and Best Character Cups will take place. If we have to, we will do the quote contest over winter hiatus. We still have several other options for this summer.
ReplyDeleteI like the idea of best scene by character. Unfortunately, I've lost my notes on everyone's suggestions for polls we have not done yet. I will attempt to go back to the threads in December and January to recreate it, but as always I welcome ideas. Anything to make summer hellatus go by faster. (Just a reminder though, I will not create any polls that instigate brother wars. No "which character is better" poll ideas please.)
I am new to the website. I don't know what had happened in the past. If that is the case, then go on.
ReplyDeleteJo Harvelle is the best part in the episode, because they screwed up the other parts even worse.
ReplyDeleteIt will be interesting to see which way they go next year. Conventional wisdom says that serialized shows get worse ratings, but Supernatural has never been a conventional show. My guess is that it will be more like season 2 with an overarching mytharc that is continuously referred to even in the standalone episodes. However, I would expect to see a few more standalones. I'm thinking the mytharc will be doled out on a slow but steady pace which should make people happier than the Leviathans did. That mytharc was more like a bucket being repaired and then springing a new leak - gushes of it came out at once but only sporadically.
ReplyDeleteIt's way late but here are my Shadow Quotes:
ReplyDeleteHonorable Mention - Landlady: "Well no offense but your alarm's about as useful as boobs on a man."Dean and Sam (together): "Dude, I got to talk to you."Dean: "Hey Sam, don't take this the wrong way, but your girlfriend is a b**."5. Sam: "You killed those 2 people for nothing." Meg: "Baby, I've killed a lot more for a lot less."4. Dean: "I'm just saying these outfits cost hard earned money, okay." Sam: "Whose?" Dean: "Ours. You think credit card fraud's easy."3. Dean: "Now look, why don't you go knock on her door and uh, invite her to a poetry reading or whatever it is you do?"2. Dean: "I talked to the bartender." Sam: "Did you get anything? Besides her number." Dean: "Dude, I'm a professional. I'm offended that you would think that….Alright, yeah I got it." Sam: "You mind doing a little thinking with your upstairs brain, Dean."1. Sam: "So I guess the daevas didn't like being bossed around." Dean: "I guess not. Hey Sam? The next time you want to get laid, find a girl who's not so buckets of crazy, huh?"
I agree. Taken on an episode by episode basis and not looking at episodes as a part of the season as a whole, this season was particularly strong. Even Girl Next Door was an okay episode on its own. I hate it more because of the mess that followed because of it than because of the episode itself.
ReplyDeleteI know you are new and welcome to SpoilerTV. This site is different from TV by the Numbers though. There is far less bashing of people and characters here. It usually makes this site a safe haven from typical fandom wars elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteAnd I hope posters here don't misunderstand me here as a troll, like they did in the other website. I learned my lessons well on that website and I am trying to post my opinions in a well organized way. I hope it is fine with every one.
ReplyDeleteOh man, if it's like season 2 than I'd be thrilled. Season 2 was one of the best paced seasons (IMO) as far as mythos and one-offs. I could definitely get behind that. And even if the serialization of the show (in s8) isn't mytharc-related, at least make it character related. The Winchesters and their relationship as it built season after season (and references to that building) were my favorite parts of the show so I hope we get more of that; it was lacking much of the time this season, if memory serves. But maybe I'll change my mind. I'm doing a seven season rewatch so who knows, it might all come together beautifully...*wishful thinking*
ReplyDeleteOk I get what you mean and I definitely see your point. I think John's character has taken a beating a bit since season 2. Like on the one hand, he made some big mistakes, and kinda emotionally damaged his kids, but on the other hand, he did the best he could given the circumstances, so I get why that line would be grating. But I do think it's probably good that they had someone like Bobby in their lives who just let them be kids. That's what that line meant to me anyways.
ReplyDeleteA poll for best guest/recurring character? I remember when you put the call out over winter for ideas but I can't recall if you made one for that. All I know is after watching several season 1 episodes this week and seeing the amazing guest stars within them I feel the need to recognize them! (Michael in Something Wicked; the mom in Home; Jessica Steen in The Benders; etc...).
ReplyDeleteAgree there is enough fanwank, no need to feed the beast :-)
ReplyDeleteI was more thinking of a best scene for each character, or what scene defines character X the best.
Not at all putting one character against the other.
Will do :-)
ReplyDeleteI just don't like the actress, I guess. She's not half as kick-ass as that early Meg, just like Ruby 2.0 was not half as kick-ass as the original one. I just prefer the blondes ;P
ReplyDeletethe benders:
ReplyDeleteDean: Oh eat me. No no no wait, wait, wait, you actually *might*
Dean: Here's the thing. When we were young, I pretty much pulled him from a fire. And ever since then, I've felt responsible for him. You know, like it's my job to keep him safe.
shadow:
First choice in honor of John Winchester :-)
Dean Winchester: Dad...
John Winchester: [smiling] Hey, boys.
Dean: Yes, that, but it's more than that, man. You and me and Dad, I mean, I want us to... I want us to be together again. I want us to be a family again.
Sam: Dean, we *are* a family. I'd do anything for you. But things will never be the way they were before.
Dean: Could be.
Sam: I don't want them to be. I'm not gonna live this life forever. Dean, when this is all over, you're gonna have to let me go my own way.
(I just put the last sam line in the box thing but really the whole exchange is ... *guh*
I put all those quotes in my preliminary choice, but finally I opted for emotional/character relevant quote. Guess I wasnt in the mood for the funny ones :-)
ReplyDeleteGreat episode, a lot of great lines, and Meg ... and "Sir" who finally meets the boys \o/
We actually did that one last year. We divided them between one-shot and recurring. For recurring the winners were the Impala, then Gabe, John, and Crowley. For one-shots, the winners were Future Dean (The End), then Suicidal Teddy Bear (Wishful Thinking), Jimmy Novak (Rapture), Sarah Blake (Provenance), and Nancy (Jus in Bello).
ReplyDeleteThus far, we've done the following:
Weapon
Death - visceral, emotional, and gory
Pip
Antagonist/monster
Episodes by seasons
Angel, demon, human, object, and other
Recurring character
Mystery Spot death
Favorite scene for certain episodes
Predicting who will die in specific episodes
Who we would rather die in specific episodes
ah! now that you say this, I remember seeing it. Very cool. Of course The Impala would win. lol, as it should.
ReplyDeleteI agree. If only we could have Nicki Aycox back or anyone else really. Just something about the way Rachel Miner says her lines is really weird and annoying, like she has marbles in her mouth. I actually liked her a little bit in the finale, but in general she lacks the awesomeness of Meg 1.0.
ReplyDeleteIt was quite a corner. But she really misuse several plots.
ReplyDeleteI was saying that i didn't think the finale would be in the finale round xD.
ReplyDeleteThey did that in S7. They referred Dick every episode. I don't think that was the problem. There needs to be an emotional connection between the villain and the Winchesters.
ReplyDeleteThey should go the route of S4.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that i want to see some old monsters like Gordon.
ReplyDeleteWell Gordon was a vampire when he died and according to the mythology, vampires go to Purgatory. You may be getting your wish. It would be interesting to see if Gordon had changed and if so how.
ReplyDeleteYou're right in the end they did. I guess I should be more clear. They made a bit of progress in the mytharc more consistently in the earlier episodes like in season 2. I agree that the lack of emotional tie in between Winchesters and Big Bad has been a problem for basically two seasons now. That's why I hope Crowley becomes a multiseason Big Bad in the vein of YED. Plus I love Mark Sheppard's acting and wish him on screen more often.
ReplyDeleteOh, I gotcha. Yeah, I didn't expect to see it here, either.
ReplyDelete"
ReplyDeleteI hope Mr Carver does his homework, and re-watches these first seasons, just to get the feel of what the whole series was"
I think all the writers should be required to do that... some stuff felt SO ooc last season, it was like "have you guys ever watched this show, or...?"
Can't vote for either of these two episodes as the best for the whole season...
ReplyDeleteDeath's Door. It was a wonderful tribute to a great character, and getting to see the unabashed adoration Bobby has for Sam and Dean was lovely. Also - we got Rufus. One of my very, very favorite characters.
ReplyDeleteI love a good MOTW/mytharc story, but nearly all my favorite episodes from each season are the character pieces; the episodes where the monster/myth is just a side aspect to the characters, and this one is no different (though I still personally think of Hello Cruel World as the best of season 7!).
Season 7 overall was not that spectacular, though loads more enjoyable (for me) than season 6. I hope with the new showrunner that we can get tighter plotting and a feel that the show has a direction and purpose again. I miss that, and I have faith since many of my favorite episodes are penned by Mr. Carver. In any case, my fingers are crossed!