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15 May 2012

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26 comments:

  1. Dan Kempner15 May 2012 at 06:15

    It was awesome. Everything about it felt right -- Karen finally getting the role, Ellis getting fired (he had the nerve to threaten Eileen), Dev getting what he deserves, the sparks of a romance between Derek and Karen.. But Ivy. UGH. Ruined Karen's relationship for the role, almost ruined Karen's dream, and felt NO REMORSE. And then, she (I assume) tried to commit suicide. 

    Well, it was fantastic seeing the numbers performed by Katherine McPhee. The last number was great, and the last shot of Karen absorbing all of the applause was epic.

    Too bad season two is eight months away.

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  2. Serapia Chácen15 May 2012 at 07:25

    omg the best of the episode was this 2 seconds when Derek help with her zipper and tell her I DO UNDERSTAND LOVE!!! OMFG Im diying in this epic moment!!

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  3. Liz Nguyen15 May 2012 at 09:57

    Finally, this was what I was waiting for!! An epic ending. 

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  4. jini15 May 2012 at 12:06

     Exactly my thoughts, except for Ivy. I think Ivy felt some remorse at the end, that's why, despite the fact that she believes she IS Marylin and after she did all she could to get the role, she was not even yelling at Karen or Derek's faces when she lose.
    Finally after her mother left she felt so alone by herself, like Marylin, and it makes sense for me that she chose like her to commit suicide. Like she said to all of us that we were wrong and that she was the best Marylin, because she was so like Marylin. And also that she had no other choice than did what she did, including to ruin Karen's private life.

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  5. jini15 May 2012 at 12:33

    Awesome episode! I loved everything about it!
    Katherine Mc Phee was amazing! She was so different, more touching as Marylin than Ivy, who was great. I loved when they performed the same song with the flashback, highlighting their differences in interpretation but also their talent and their pleasure to sing and be Marilyn for both of them.
    I can't wait for season 2!

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  6. lsbloom15 May 2012 at 14:01

    Will someone please explain to me why Karen should be coddled and petted and handed everything she ever wanted but couldn't be bothered to fight for or pay her dues for or take singing lessons for? Because I still don't get it.

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  7. lsbloom15 May 2012 at 14:05

    Karen ruined Karen's private life. She threw Dev away with both hands for the entire season and then when he finally left, she regretted it? What did she expect? After her reaction to his proposal?

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  8. jini15 May 2012 at 14:55

     Except Dev never really left her, he just cheated on her with someone who was in the same show, for some ugly revenge because he was hurt.
    And I understand why he was so angry. But I also understand Karen's reactions, both to the proposal and to the fact that he slept with Ivy.

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  9. Seth15 May 2012 at 15:50

    Best episode since the pilot, Karen was amazing as Marilyn (even better than I thought she would be, Katharine McPhee gave her best performance yet) and the perfect choice, I think how green she is is an asset. I love Karen and Derek together, and that he's the only one who's truly believes in her, and in way I think she's the one person he genuinely cares for, even if it's just him wanted to make her a star. I hope finding out about Ivy/Dev finally toughens Karen up, the scene when they were both on the stages dressed as Marilyn shows glimpse of that. I wasn't keen on that last song though, Karen knocked it out of the park, but the lyrics seemed a little more Disney than Marilyn.

    I do feel sorry for Ivy, and while I think she does make a good Marilyn I don't think she deserves the part, not just because of her personal actions but I found her performances a little too polished for Marilyn.

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  10. Folie-lex15 May 2012 at 18:32

    It's no excuse for Dev cheating, but she's been too selfinvolved and had emotionally checked out of the relationship a long while ago expecting he'd just keep on being supportinve and understanding.
    Granted he should have walked out intstead of cheating, but he certainly didn't deserve the overall treatment he was getting from her lately.

    Again his behaviour is not excused, he went about it the wrong way and I will not argue with that, but he certainly had a reasonable starting point for going down this road.

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  11. kyle fong15 May 2012 at 18:59

    OMG that song at the end.... *runs to iTunes to download*

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  12. Magi Creelman15 May 2012 at 21:40

    Really disappointed it wasn't Ivy, but I guess I figured they weren't going that way from day 1. Ivy, to me, has the " it " that karen doesn't. And I have always thought physique wise Ivy fit marilyn the most. I always tend to sympathize with the Ivy characters so I guess that is where I come from. Otherwise thought it was a fun watch :)

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  13. Chiara Bocci15 May 2012 at 22:17

    That was really awesome! Best episode ever.
    And all my sympathy for Ivy is definitely gone.

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  14. jini16 May 2012 at 00:07

     I feel also sorry for Ivy. And the last song of Bombshell. I wish they will have time -more than 15mn- to work on it until the second season!

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  15. jini16 May 2012 at 00:57

     I agree with you about Dev. I can understand how he felt about all of it and even why he went down this road as you said.
    However I feel overall sorry and sad for both of them, Dev and Karen, because I think they truly loved each other. Only their works and their dreams -especially show-business- pushed them apart. That's just sad for me. But that's life.
    You said : "...but she's been too selfinvolved and had emotionally checked out of the
    relationship a long while ago expecting he'd just keep on being
    supportinve and understanding without her having to do any work."
    Well he knew since the beginning what was her big dream and he was supportive and understanding at that moment, right? Of course it was quite easy, she didn't succeed...and when she suddenly had some luck -and she had to work hard for a while on herself- and he didn't succeed at his job at the same time, he felt less understanding and comfortable with her dreams. And again I can understand. But honestly if I was Karen I would have the same behaviour, I would have worked on my dreams for a while and asked my bf to support me all along. Because that's what someone who really loves you is supposed to do. Actually I also would have the same reactions about Dev's weird proposal. You don't ask someone to marry you the way he asked, except if you have to run very fast from something bad!
    Anyway I liked them together (and the two actors were so great in the Bollywood part! :-) ), I hope Dev will be back in season2.

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  16. jini16 May 2012 at 01:00

     I don't think Ivy is definitely gone, but I can't wait to find out!

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  17. lsbloom16 May 2012 at 01:50

    I'm sorry but she was walking all over Dev from day 1 when she was a waitress and he was backing her every move. He was her biggest cheerleader and she ditched him, asked him to put up with her flirting with Derek behind his back, missing important dinners without even a phone call, not paying any attention to him whatsoever (when he was having a crisis nonetheless), etc. She was completely self-absorbed and took him for granted. He was sacrificing his dreams for her and she didn't even notice or thank him. And she trusted people she just met who were by all standards devious over him. Relationships are two-way streets. She wanted to be the diva to the adoring fan, Dev wanted a partner. She needs to grow up. But unfortunately the show doesn't show that, they expect Dev like club goers and church goers and everyone that ever meets Karen to fall adoringly at her feet. Seriously, chicky needs some character development and singing lessons. 

    Personally, I considered their relationship over after the proposal fiasco. And Dev wouldn't have been wrong to stick to his guns that they were done. But he came crawling back and that's what made sleeping with Ivy a crap thing to do. 

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  18. Reseline Eugene16 May 2012 at 06:29

    God, I really did not want to watch that episode at all. I am so sad Ivy did not get the role. I mean I knew it from day one but it was still hard to watch. I fast forward through the whole ending. They make Karen so goody two shoes and they make Ivy this big bad bitch it's very annoying. Everything she tries end up in her face, and Karen barely does anything but of course gets everything. God Derek is so stupid. The only reason he likes Karen so much it's because she is one person he has not slept with. No wonder he is obsessed with her. There is nothing that Karen did or has that Ivy doesn't or could not have done. I hope Derek is killed of the show, he is just a horrible human being. And I don't know why you guys are rooting for Derek and Karen to get together, so he can treat her like crap after he sleeps with her. I hate that nothing good happens to Ivy. She has been getting crapped on since day one. Julia was able to get back with her husband. Tom got a boyfriend. that ugly producer lady has a hot boyfriend. Derek getting what he wanted, by having Karen play the role. Karen getting to play the role and a loving boyfriend that she treated like shit. And what does Ivy get, a low life boyfriend, a horrible mother, her friends are mad two face, and thoughts of suicide. I mean dang can the IVY FANS get a little something something. Alright I'm done. Just saying mad disappointed. 

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  19. Alanna C Buehring16 May 2012 at 07:04

     I do not for one minute think it's okay for a boyfriend to have a tantrum and sleep with someone else because his girlfriend "checked out".  Dev is a shit who threw a tantrum because his girlfriend was suddenly
    involved in this world that made her satisfied with his life and it
    threatened him that she didn't NEED him for validation.  That being said, I saw no 'checking out' on Karen's side anyway.  She was given a chance to learn a profession that is VERY difficult to get into and was not only taking that opportunity very seriously, she was doing so with amazing grace.  Did anyone see Karen making conniving little attempts to gain power?  Did anyone see Karen plotting Ivy's demise?  Hardly!  In fact, she even praised Ivy's performances and supported the self important witch.  And even with all that, she still tried to be there for Dev, to show him that she loved him and what did he do?  HE cut HER out! 

    SO, with all THAT being said, I didn't much care for Ivy's performances as Marilyn ANYway.  Hers was a portrayal of Playboy Bunny meets Porn Star version of a classic beauty with NONE of Marilyn's amazing naivete that made her not only seem somewhat innocent but captivating in that illusion.  All I saw was a bunch of gyrating and Hustler Eyes. 

    Katherine McPhee (and thus Karen, by turn) managed to convey that.  Perhaps it was her own inexperience and her recent personal experience but, I believed her as Marilyn whereas, with Ivy, it always looked like Marilyn Barbie...Hugh Hefner style...

    Oh and suicide is the coward's ultimate, desperate, and (often, the last) plea for attention.  "Look at me, look what you've done to me!  See, don't you think you should have given me the part now so that I wouldn't be on the brink of death/dead?!"  Effing pathetic.

    That's just my take anyway.

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  20. Alanna C Buehring16 May 2012 at 07:15

     I like your argument, it does seem the writers are steering Karen and Ivy to opposites sides (good vs 'evil' to put it crudely) but think about what you wrote:  Everything Ivy tried was rather conniving and her attitude stinks.  It's okay to want a part but it's another thing entirely to feel 'entitled' to it just because you slept with the director or because you have a smoking body.  Everyone else got their 'happy ending' because they were decent people.  Yes, Julia cheated but she has been paying her dues since then to make up for it and it is clear she hasn't even forgiven herself.  Ellis was fired because...let's think for a second...he too was a conniving, sneaky, thieving asshat who thought he was, yes, ENTITLED to 'Bombshell'...an idea he spat out but never had any REAL contribution in the creative process.  (Verbal diarrhea does not constitute Intellectual Property)  And I think Karen's distraction may not have helped her case but, in what way did she treat Dev 'like shit'?  I saw her busting her ass to learn as much as she could while trying to stay supportive to him while HE had himself a sulk because he didn't get a job and then cut her out and kept things from her and punished her for something she had no control over.  Maybe it's because I had a boyfriend like that that's the reason I see things that way.

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  21. andy s16 May 2012 at 11:23

    One thing good (not the only one of course, but the most important) is that it is complex. You have irony - Ivy thinking about taking pills, the same way Marilyn died. She did not get the part, but she is about to become Marilyn. You have interactions - Dev cheated, Karen got mad, she returned the ring, but he still was there to see her performance, and he was still proud. Derek's brutal sincerity is not something you see everyday, and in some respects he reminds me of House. You have galore of emotions, and no one is just bad or just good. Ivy was desperate, yes. But it is not 'evil' for 'evil's' sake. 

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  22. lsbloom16 May 2012 at 15:39

    But that's just the thing. She was given every chance and it wasn't hard for her to break in. They handed it to her on a silver platter and coddled her through the entire thing. Oh here's a record deal, all you have to do is show up. If Karen had been struggling and asked Dev to help and he'd been all my way or the highway. It would have been a different story. But when all you want are peptalks and you can't see that your significant other is drowning, that's just selfish.

    I'm not saying Dev should have slept with Ivy. It was supposed to be a sh*t move. But their relationship was pretty much over long before that, and it wasn't Dev's fault. The whole I'm giving up everything for you and she doesn't even care, that was when it was over for me. And if Dev wasn't one of the Karen is the second coming doormats, it would have been over for him too. But that's not the way anyone is written because they show has to keep telling us how "great" Karen is so that we'll believe she should be the star.

    Ivy is supposed to be the "later" Marilyn the playboy bunny, the sexually confident, the ambitious ruined by men version. And that's the way Hilty has portrayed her. Older, jaded, you can see the cracks where she's been broken and put back together. Karen is "supposed" to be the younger, dreamy, naive Marilyn. 

    I don't understand the rant against suicide. Ivy was at the end of her rope, she's abused drugs in the past, maybe she wants a way out. You are reading a power trip into it that isn't necessarily there. Plus, we don't know if she tried at all. 

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  23. jini16 May 2012 at 21:05

     I never had a boyfriend like that and I do see things your way. ;-)

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  24. jini16 May 2012 at 21:14

     Exactly, no one and no relationship, no interaction is either totally black neither white, quite like in real life, that's what it is interesting for me...and may be that's why as viewers we can have so many different points of view about this story!

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  25. Chiara Bocci18 May 2012 at 20:10

     I don't think that Ivy is gone either. But I don't have any sympathy for her right now...

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  26. KYLE8 April 2014 at 02:54

    OMG that song at the end.... *runs to iTunes to download*

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