I'm still not understanding why King George is keeping Charming in the dungeon. Isn't keeping a nice, sweet boy that everyone thinks is your son in the dungeon waiting to be killed just asking for some sort of coup?
Oh, no, ALARM. Now people begins to ship Regina and Charming, Granny and Sleepy, Grumpy and Ruby ........LMAO. I hate when fandom ships everyone with everyone....
Regina/EQ just owns the show. That woman is so BAMF and it always looks like she isn't even trying. Flaweless. Glad to see Red and loved that bit about her having something on her chin. *lol*
Me too it is my favourite thing about this show and for me the most important relationship as well. Plus I just adore the scenes with Lana and Ginnifer. Talk about raising the bar for everyone else acting wise. This is why I can't wait for this episode cos I know we are gonna get some really good scenes. I hope Daniel is mentioned in some capacity.
Well I don't ship it. Charming has Josh Dallas' pretty face, but his character is way too boring for Regina so far. Maybe if they finally give him a real personality and tone down the cheesy dialogue. ;)
Oh, of course. I like most of the others too and it's a great ensemble. But Regina's my favorite, ya know. Especially among the series regulars. Red is my other favorite character.
David is fustrating, but Charming is everything but boring. You love Regina, perfect, but don't insult another character because those amazing ratings are thanks to every fan (Regina fans, charmer, snowing, Rumpels......)
I agree they are all important but for me personally the show wouldn't be the same without EQ/Snow. They are my favourite part of it. I love the romance between Charming and Snow but for me EQ/Snow is the most important relationship and without it the show woulnd't even exist...
Oh of course and I didn't mean to upset you I am just saying I adore Evil Queen/Snow's relationship more than any other. I love both characters so much and I think Lana and Ginnifer play them so well. But I do love Snow/Charming as well. Can't wait to see their scenes as well on Sunday.
The queen and Snow is almost like the show's real big unrequited love story. ;) Especially after that Stable Boy episode. You just can't help and root for them to sit down and just talk and work out their issues. You know it won't happen cause no rivalry between them = no plot for the show - at least this season. But the actresses are so great together and the relationship between the characters is so complex and I hope there is at least some progress for them as the series continues.
Indeed.... Maybe being shady is a result of the responsibility of holding so much magical power? *shrugs*
On a sidenoteI still think there is a good chance she might remember in Storybrooke too. So far if the person possesed magic they've held on to their memories (Regina, Gold, Jefferson). So I think Mother Superior might also...
Chill. I was mostly kidding - hence the winking smiley at the end. I do find Charming somewhat boring, but that's just my personal opinion. It's not insulting anyone. And I never denied that he has fans and that they add to ratings just like everyone else.
I like Red/Ruby more than either of our heroines (both MaryMargaret/Snow and Emma)... it's become a bit of a problem with the show for me that I prefer most of the reccuring and supporting characters and the villains than the heroes of the story...
I'm more and more certain every week that the Blue Fairy kept her memories. She quietly seems to be poking her nose into the affairs of numerous Storybrooke residents, she made "preparations" for the curse with her other fairies, and she's suppose to be as powerful as the Dark One.
I think the odds of her working her own angle are pretty good.
I whole heartedly agree with this. It is on my wishlist for this show. I know there will be a hell of a lot to forgive especially for Snow but that doesn't mean I don't want it to happen in some way. And I am talking further down the line of course. I don't wanna see it happen straight away. Plus I just adore these two actresses together. I am just sorry we only started to get some really epic scenes with them coming to the end of the season. That "Apology not accepted" scenes remains one of my favourites so far. Hopefully this episode will have lots of scenes with them together.. And damn I want to see them have a talk about Daniel. That is also on my wishlist.
I guess it must be a little frustrating for you that ever since Red's big episode the focus has shifted heavily back toward the main characters. Sorry 'bout that.
I find Charming really dull too. He just doesn't have a spark like all the other characters. He did in 1x03 but then everything since has been lacking in something.
Me too. I actually enjoy Regina/MM and Regina/Snow scenes a lot more than Regina/Emma scenes by now. The real conflict is supposed to be between those two, I want to see more of them. Lana and Ginnifer are marvelous.
Ditto. Sometimes I think I would be happy with just Lana/Ginnifer and Robert being the only people on this show. I always enjoy scenes witht them the most.
Um. That's still just my opinion? And I'm sorry, but I do think that Charming lacks personality. That's not Josh's fault, it's obviously up to the writers to do something about it. The character has some potential, but so far they haven't used much of it. So far Charming's main purpose on the show seems to be to look good and profess his love for Snow over and over again. I don't dislike him. I just want him to be more interesting than that. And again: Just my personal opinion.
I agree with this. I know alot of people love Emma/Regina scenes but I would pay big money to see alot more Regina/MM and Regina/Snow scenes rather than Emma/Regina.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ensemble on this show. They have nothing but phenomenal actors here. But I think the writing is letting some of the actors down *cough*Jennifer Morrison*cough*. The only two characters I'm invested in right now are the villains, and that's because they're the only characters who actually feel whole and complex, and that makes them interesting. I love Ginnifer, and her scenes are fantastic, but once again an amazing actor is being underused. Please, just give me an ep with Lana, Ginny, and Robert. For one ep, just one ep, forget everyone else, and I will be an eternally happy viewer.
That is actually how I saw it as well. I think Regina was doing it because she wants MM to hate her, not to forgive her. She couldn't understand that MM would forgive her for everything so she goes after David. That was just my interpretation of it anyway.
I said I wasn't going to watch these sneak peeks anymore because last week's gave us every single Regina moment before the episode even aired and left me with nothing new. But alas, here I am, having watched this sneak peek half a dozen times, waiting impatiently for the next one *sigh* I am BEYOND addicted to this show, and loving every minute of it XD
Oh, I think you may want to put up the link to TVLine, since Matt Mitovitch just commented about it. (Not sure if he was talking about us, specifically, but you can never be too careful.)
I have to wonder what the writers are thinking. Wouldn't it be more satisfying to Regina for her to kill Snow's true love the way she believes Snow killed hers? So why not just kill Charming? Or is it just because the writers need Charming alive in Storybrooke? lol
You know, I've just thought of something about last week's episode. In "The Return", August said that "a little fairy told him" about Rumpelstiltskin's greatest secret - the dagger. But it's unlikely that this happened in Fairy Tale Land - possible, but not likely. So maybe "Mother Superior" still has her memories.
I have wondered about this so many times. Wouldn't Regina want to just kill Charming therefore leaving Snow in the same situation she finds herself in. I really don't know. Doesn't make alot of sense to me but then again I always wonder about the David/Regina dynaminc. It kinda intrigues me.
I feel the same way. The best scenes from "The Stranger" were in the sneak peaks. Unfortunately I'm obsessing over OUaT so much right now, I can't help but watch the new sneak peaks. It's like being told what your Christmas present is in November. :(
Hmmm...yeah. It would make sense. I'm real curious about her. She's done some good things for people but also done things I'm not happy with. A little shady, like others said. I don't think she's as good as she first appeared.
New thought: Snow said in the pilot that the evil queen poisoned her because she thought Snow was prettier than her. And yet based on what we've been seeing all season, Regina poisoned Snow because of her resentment over Daniel's death. On any other show I might write that off as a plot hole, but I can't imagine these writers screwing up a detail like that (especially after seeing the Pinocchio episode and how that tied into the pilot). I'm not sure exactly how this will play out, but I'm thinking vanity IS factoring into Regina's actions somehow, and there actually IS something between her and Charming (or she wishes there was). I definitely have a lot of questions for this upcoming episode. Fingers crossed that a few of them actually get answered, lol
I kinda like how over the top her hair and costumes are, lol. I find I only ever notice how ridiculous they are in photos, but when I'm actually watching the show I don't really notice it. A testament to all the amazing acting :D
Oh I like this idea and your right I can't see the writers forgetting about something like this. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. And might finally answer my question about Regina/David and this weird thing she seems to have about him cos honestly it's driving me crazy.
Anyone else love the way Lana/EQ says - "Oh who said anything about taking her life" I just love the expression on her face. It's just so bold and devious. Damn I just love this woman's acting. She is absolutely brillant.
I agree. I don't hate him or anything, but Charming bores me. Compared to the others he is so flat. He's beautiful and brave. And he loves Snow. That's his entire personality. For me it's most obvious when Kitsis/Horowitz write scenes for him. They always give him corny lines and make him look like a one-note "hero" character.
I think it was a moment when he started looking for a curse, couldn't find one, so he made it... It would also explain why he was saving up bits and pieces from Snow and Charming.
I still think that the Blue Fairy could have orchestered everything while not doing the curse herself... but leading and manipulating others into doing it.
I think she manipulated Rumple, who manipulated Regina.
And I am also very curious about him keeping "bits and pieces" from Snow and Charming.
Red/Ruby has become one of the more interesting characters on the show since that Red Riding Hood episode. Red really should be a series regular next season.
I agree. Red has become really interesting. I hope next season delves more into Red's progression from running away from her village that night, to finally accepting her true nature, and learning to control her wolf instinct.
Right!?! Blue Fairy is totally shady. Although, I'd take her more seriously if her fairy costume weren't so ridiculous. Those prostitute heels alone were distracting me ever since the Pilot.
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Snow and Charming episodes are always EPIC¡ Can´t wait¡
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ReplyDeleteI wonder who Grumpy's air support is?
ReplyDeleteI've seen at TVLINE I think lol. It seems a good epi. My fav is 1x16, maybe this will be my new fav
ReplyDeleteSame here :(
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ReplyDeleteOh, Regina. You crazy, crazy lady.
ReplyDeleteI'm still not understanding why King George is keeping Charming in the dungeon. Isn't keeping a nice, sweet boy that everyone thinks is your son in the dungeon waiting to be killed just asking for some sort of coup?
"Red, you got someone on your chin." LMFAO!
ReplyDeleteHuh, air support. Guessing it's fairies.
ReplyDeleteWhoa, Regina's boobs! And why did I have this weird feeling she was hitting on Charming there?
Working now :-) thankx
ReplyDeleteWhat Red was doing for having something on her mounth? That can make a real good ep, maybe some lover!!!
ReplyDeleteLOVE THIS. I just love the Regina/Snow White relationship, it is so complex (and they certainly need more scenes together).
ReplyDeleteOh, no, ALARM. Now people begins to ship Regina and Charming, Granny and Sleepy, Grumpy and Ruby ........LMAO. I hate when fandom ships everyone with everyone....
ReplyDeleteI'm liking this more dangerous version of Red.
ReplyDeleteRegina is single-handedly keeping Victoria's Secret Enchanted Forest in business.
ReplyDeleteOmg I love this. Can't wait it looks like its going be amazing.
ReplyDeleteRegina/EQ just owns the show. That woman is so BAMF and it always looks like she isn't even trying. Flaweless. Glad to see Red and loved that bit about her having something on her chin. *lol*
ReplyDeleteI love the idea of Snow White&her friends coming to the rescue!
ReplyDeleteBlue Fairy. She screwed him over he let her she owes him.
ReplyDeleteI like Regina, but without Snow, Charming, Rumpel......the show would be boring. I think every character owns the show
ReplyDeleteFairies probably.
ReplyDeleteMe too it is my favourite thing about this show and for me the most important relationship as well. Plus I just adore the scenes with Lana and Ginnifer. Talk about raising the bar for everyone else acting wise. This is why I can't wait for this episode cos I know we are gonna get some really good scenes. I hope Daniel is mentioned in some capacity.
ReplyDeleteThat makes good sense. For someone who is supposed to be "good," the Blue Fairy seems a little shady.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the seduction attempt on David was a revenge for this...?
ReplyDeleteI think she kinda was. Might explain this David/Regina thing that I can't seem to get out of my head at the moment.
ReplyDeleteWell I don't ship it. Charming has Josh Dallas' pretty face, but his character is way too boring for Regina so far. Maybe if they finally give him a real personality and tone down the cheesy dialogue. ;)
ReplyDeleteOh, of course. I like most of the others too and it's a great ensemble. But Regina's my favorite, ya know. Especially among the series regulars. Red is my other favorite character.
ReplyDeleteDavid is fustrating, but Charming is everything but boring. You love Regina, perfect, but don't insult another character because those amazing ratings are thanks to every fan (Regina fans, charmer, snowing, Rumpels......)
ReplyDeleteI agree they are all important but for me personally the show wouldn't be the same without EQ/Snow. They are my favourite part of it. I love the romance between Charming and Snow but for me EQ/Snow is the most important relationship and without it the show woulnd't even exist...
ReplyDeleteEveryone has their fav ;). I'm a big fan of the show because Snow and Charming are EPIC¡ My favs
ReplyDeleteI pray the seduction thing finished. Last episode was enough for my mental balance looool. Not more seduction plots, please.
ReplyDeleteOh of course and I didn't mean to upset you I am just saying I adore Evil Queen/Snow's relationship more than any other. I love both characters so much and I think Lana and Ginnifer play them so well. But I do love Snow/Charming as well. Can't wait to see their scenes as well on Sunday.
ReplyDeleteNo problem ;)
ReplyDeleteThe queen and Snow is almost like the show's real big unrequited love story. ;) Especially after that Stable Boy episode. You just can't help and root for them to sit down and just talk and work out their issues. You know it won't happen cause no rivalry between them = no plot for the show - at least this season. But the actresses are so great together and the relationship between the characters is so complex and I hope there is at least some progress for them as the series continues.
ReplyDeleteIndeed.... Maybe being shady is a result of the responsibility of holding so much magical power? *shrugs*
ReplyDeleteOn a sidenoteI still think there is a good chance she might remember in Storybrooke too. So far if the person possesed magic they've held on to their memories (Regina, Gold, Jefferson). So I think Mother Superior might also...
Chill. I was mostly kidding - hence the winking smiley at the end. I do find Charming somewhat boring, but that's just my personal opinion. It's not insulting anyone. And I never denied that he has fans and that they add to ratings just like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteI like Red/Ruby more than either of our heroines (both MaryMargaret/Snow and Emma)... it's become a bit of a problem with the show for me that I prefer most of the reccuring and supporting characters and the villains than the heroes of the story...
ReplyDeleteSame here.
ReplyDeleteSorry i don't understand what the Evil Queen says at 1:12-1:14 and at 1:31-1:35, can someone help me?
ReplyDeleteI'm more and more certain every week that the Blue Fairy kept her memories. She quietly seems to be poking her nose into the affairs of numerous Storybrooke residents, she made "preparations" for the curse with her other fairies, and she's suppose to be as powerful as the Dark One.
ReplyDeleteI think the odds of her working her own angle are pretty good.
I whole heartedly agree with this. It is on my wishlist for this show. I know there will be a hell of a lot to forgive especially for Snow but that doesn't mean I don't want it to happen in some way. And I am talking further down the line of course. I don't wanna see it happen straight away. Plus I just adore these two actresses together. I am just sorry we only started to get some really epic scenes with them coming to the end of the season. That "Apology not accepted" scenes remains one of my favourites so far.
ReplyDeleteHopefully this episode will have lots of scenes with them together.. And damn I want to see them have a talk about Daniel. That is also on my wishlist.
"I suppose I see the allure. " (I think)
ReplyDelete& "I have a far more satisfying brand of punishment for her."
Oh man. Yes. They really are. And I know I'm selfish but I want them to work it out because I LOVE scenes between Lana and Ginny.
ReplyDeleteThis is: "a real personality and tone down the cheesy dialogue" insulting....
ReplyDeleteI hate war between fandoms.
Love Regina but don't insult my favs.
I guess it must be a little frustrating for you that ever since Red's big episode the focus has shifted heavily back toward the main characters. Sorry 'bout that.
ReplyDeleteMe too although I do love Snow.
ReplyDeleteI find Charming really dull too. He just doesn't have a spark like all the other characters. He did in 1x03 but then everything since has been lacking in something.
ReplyDeleteMe too. I actually enjoy Regina/MM and Regina/Snow scenes a lot more than Regina/Emma scenes by now. The real conflict is supposed to be between those two, I want to see more of them. Lana and Ginnifer are marvelous.
ReplyDeleteRed needs to be a main character.
ReplyDeleteDitto. Sometimes I think I would be happy with just Lana/Ginnifer and Robert being the only people on this show. I always enjoy scenes witht them the most.
ReplyDeleteyep those boobs are magical by themselves!
ReplyDeleteYeah that's what I got too!!!
ReplyDeleteNah... I've been pokay about it. There's been quite a bit of Regina and Gold/Rumple, and August and the Jefferson introduction to hold me over.
ReplyDeleteUm. That's still just my opinion? And I'm sorry, but I do think that Charming lacks personality. That's not Josh's fault, it's obviously up to the writers to do something about it. The character has some potential, but so far they haven't used much of it. So far Charming's main purpose on the show seems to be to look good and profess his love for Snow over and over again. I don't dislike him. I just want him to be more interesting than that. And again: Just my personal opinion.
ReplyDeleteOnce the show jumps into season two and they're not pressed up against a finale, I'm sure OUAT will dive back into supporting character arcs again.
ReplyDeleteTnx :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with this. I know alot of people love Emma/Regina scenes but I would pay big money to see alot more Regina/MM and Regina/Snow scenes rather than Emma/Regina.
ReplyDeleteBAHAHA!! Too good, Courtney XD
ReplyDeleteI thought it was revenge for Mary Margate 'forgiving' her.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I love the ensemble on this show. They have nothing but phenomenal actors here. But I think the writing is letting some of the actors down *cough*Jennifer Morrison*cough*. The only two characters I'm invested in right now are the villains, and that's because they're the only characters who actually feel whole and complex, and that makes them interesting. I love Ginnifer, and her scenes are fantastic, but once again an amazing actor is being underused. Please, just give me an ep with Lana, Ginny, and Robert. For one ep, just one ep, forget everyone else, and I will be an eternally happy viewer.
ReplyDeleteThat is actually how I saw it as well. I think Regina was doing it because she wants MM to hate her, not to forgive her. She couldn't understand that MM would forgive her for everything so she goes after David. That was just my interpretation of it anyway.
ReplyDeleteI said I wasn't going to watch these sneak peeks anymore because last week's gave us every single Regina moment before the episode even aired and left me with nothing new. But alas, here I am, having watched this sneak peek half a dozen times, waiting impatiently for the next one *sigh* I am BEYOND addicted to this show, and loving every minute of it XD
ReplyDeleteOh, I think you may want to put up the link to TVLine, since Matt Mitovitch just commented about it. (Not sure if he was talking about us, specifically, but you can never be too careful.)
ReplyDeleteHaha we wish. Although I think there should be plenty of Ginny/Lana in this episode. Can't wait.
ReplyDeleteI have to wonder what the writers are thinking. Wouldn't it be more satisfying to Regina for her to kill Snow's true love the way she believes Snow killed hers? So why not just kill Charming? Or is it just because the writers need Charming alive in Storybrooke? lol
ReplyDeleteYou know, I've just thought of something about last week's episode. In "The Return", August said that "a little fairy told him" about Rumpelstiltskin's greatest secret - the dagger. But it's unlikely that this happened in Fairy Tale Land - possible, but not likely. So maybe "Mother Superior" still has her memories.
ReplyDeleteI have wondered about this so many times. Wouldn't Regina want to just kill Charming therefore leaving Snow in the same situation she finds herself in. I really don't know. Doesn't make alot of sense to me but then again I always wonder about the David/Regina dynaminc. It kinda intrigues me.
ReplyDelete2 more sneak peeks:
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I can't wait, it looks so good
ReplyDeleteDid the evil Queen just get zapped with electricity, that hair! O_O
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way. The best scenes from "The Stranger" were in the sneak peaks.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I'm obsessing over OUaT so much right now, I can't help but watch the new sneak peaks. It's like being told what your Christmas present is in November. :(
Yeah, I love Charming.
ReplyDeleteI don't hate any character. I have been frustrated with David and Emma at times but otherwise nothing but awesome in my opinion.
The supporting characters are really interesting, but I love the main characters just as much. I'm here for the whole show. Not just the 'villains'.
Hmmm...yeah. It would make sense. I'm real curious about her. She's done some good things for people but also done things I'm not happy with. A little shady, like others said. I don't think she's as good as she first appeared.
ReplyDeleteOh, no. It's the dreaded apple! YAY, glad to see Red, again.
ReplyDeleteNew thought: Snow said in the pilot that the evil queen poisoned her because she thought Snow was prettier than her. And yet based on what we've been seeing all season, Regina poisoned Snow because of her resentment over Daniel's death. On any other show I might write that off as a plot hole, but I can't imagine these writers screwing up a detail like that (especially after seeing the Pinocchio episode and how that tied into the pilot). I'm not sure exactly how this will play out, but I'm thinking vanity IS factoring into Regina's actions somehow, and there actually IS something between her and Charming (or she wishes there was). I definitely have a lot of questions for this upcoming episode. Fingers crossed that a few of them actually get answered, lol
ReplyDeleteI kinda like how over the top her hair and costumes are, lol. I find I only ever notice how ridiculous they are in photos, but when I'm actually watching the show I don't really notice it. A testament to all the amazing acting :D
ReplyDeleteOh I like this idea and your right I can't see the writers forgetting about something like this. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. And might finally answer my question about Regina/David and this weird thing she seems to have about him cos honestly it's driving me crazy.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else love the way Lana/EQ says - "Oh who said anything about taking her life" I just love the expression on her face. It's just so bold and devious. Damn I just love this woman's acting. She is absolutely brillant.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I don't hate him or anything, but Charming bores me. Compared to the others he is so flat. He's beautiful and brave. And he loves Snow. That's his entire personality. For me it's most obvious when Kitsis/Horowitz write scenes for him. They always give him corny lines and make him look like a one-note "hero" character.
ReplyDeleteLana Parilla's acting is a joy to watch.
ReplyDeleteI believe you are right.
ReplyDeleteI still think she could be the mastermind behind it all and perhaps even the Dark One.
She gives me the creeps.
Absolutely going to LOVE this episode!!
ReplyDeleteFairies don't do curses so I doubt she concocted this but I'm very interested to figure out who created the curse.
ReplyDeleteIalways had the feeling it was Rumple who actually created the curse....
ReplyDeleteI had figured the same thing until watching the Rumple / Blue Fairy scene in "The Return" and now I'm not so sure.
ReplyDeleteI think it was a moment when he started looking for a curse, couldn't find one, so he made it...
ReplyDeleteIt would also explain why he was saving up bits and pieces from Snow and Charming.
"It would also explain why he was saving up bits and pieces from Snow and Charming."
ReplyDeleteThere's a plot point the show dropped that I'd like to see them go back to.
I always wanted to know what the hell he was doing with that stuff.
I still think that the Blue Fairy could have orchestered everything while not doing the curse herself... but leading and manipulating others into doing it.
ReplyDeleteI think she manipulated Rumple, who manipulated Regina.
And I am also very curious about him keeping "bits and pieces" from Snow and Charming.
I was also wondering that. I think she might have killed something, since she is the wolf. It looked like blood to me.
ReplyDeleteLana Parilla really owns the show...
ReplyDeleteAnd what the hell was on Red's chin? Blood? Is she giving into her dark side? Did she kill something?
Red/Ruby has become one of the more interesting characters on the show since that Red Riding Hood episode. Red really should be a series regular next season.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Red has become really interesting. I hope next season delves more into Red's progression from running away from her village that night, to finally accepting her true nature, and learning to control her wolf instinct.
ReplyDeleteRight!?! Blue Fairy is totally shady. Although, I'd take her more seriously if her fairy costume weren't so ridiculous. Those prostitute heels alone were distracting me ever since the Pilot.
ReplyDeleteGood point!! Lets wait to we be right!!!
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