FRIDAY, MAY 4
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WALTER REVISITS HIS PAINFUL PAST ON AN ALL-NEW "FRINGE" FRIDAY, MAY 4, ON FOX
A mysterious Fringe event causing people to spontaneously combust forces Walter to revisit his painful past while the Fringe team faces off against David Robert Jones to save the world, or worlds, in the all-new "Brave New World, Part 1 of 2" episode of FRINGE airing Friday, May 4 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FR-421) (TV-14 D, L, V)
Cast: Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham; Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop; John Noble as Walter Bishop; Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles; Blair Brown as Nina Sharp; Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth; Seth Gabel as Lincoln Lee
Guest Cast: Jared Harris as David Robert Jones; Rebecca Mader as Jessica Holt
Source: Fox


I'm liking this title much more than "End Game", but that was also the title to the fourth season finale of Heroes. Hope that isn't a harbinger of doom. So Miss Mader has a name now: Jessica Holt. Wonder where that came from. "Spontaneous combustion"? Sounds a lot like The Road Not Taken; probably ties into the Cortexiphan kids again.
ReplyDeleteSo this episode is no longer called "Endgame"?
ReplyDeleteUh oh... sudden name change, that can't be good. Also, I think "Brave New World" was the name of the Heroes season-four-finale-that-could-double-as-a-series-finale.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'll say it before someone else does - is the change to something less final perhaps because they've been renewed....?
ReplyDeleteOh please don't start reading into that.Just because it happened with Heroes doesn't mean diddly...
ReplyDeleteWell, if they'd just come out and give us an answer, there'd be a lot less wild speculation like that.
ReplyDeleteSpontaneous combustion? So we're getting a "The Road Not Taken" callback and some more Cortexiphan content.
ReplyDeleteRevisits his painful past, spontaneous combustion, cortexiphan children anyone? :D
ReplyDeleteYeah i know,that sounded cranky even to me,i'm sorry i didn't mean it to come out that way..but it did.. :(
ReplyDeleteThey already a pulled a "similar case of season 1" episodes, hope they'll do something a little better this time.
ReplyDeleteOMG So maybe because they possibly expect renewal, they changed the name? ;)
ReplyDeleteSurprise! Surprise!
ReplyDeleteKnow doubt also named for the novel of the same name!
From Wiki:
Brave New World is a novel written in 1931 by Aldous Huxley and published in 1932. Set in London of AD 2540 (632 A.F. in the book), the novel anticipates developments in reproductive technology and sleep-learning that combine to change society. The future society is an embodiment of the ideals that form the basis of futurology. Huxley answered this book with a reassessment in an essay, Brave New World Revisited (1958) and with his final work, a novel titled Island (1962).
Brave New World's ironic title derives from Miranda's speech in Shakespeare's The Tempest, Act V, Scene I:[2]O wonder!How many goodly creatures are there here! How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world!That has such people in't!This line itself is ironic; Miranda was raised for most of her life on an isolated island, and the only people she ever knew were her father and his servants, an enslaved savage and spirits, namely Ariel. When she sees other people for the first time, she is understandably overcome with excitement, and utters, among other praise, the famous line above. However, what she is actually observing is not men acting in a refined or civilized manner, but rather drunken sailors staggering off the wreckage of their ship. Huxley employs the same irony when the "savage" John refers to what he sees as a "brave new world."Although the novel is set in the future it deals with contemporary issues of the early 20th century. The Industrial Revolution had transformed the world. Mass production had made cars, telephones, and radios relatively cheap and widely available throughout the developed world. The political, cultural, economic and sociological upheavals of the Russian Revolution of 1917and the First World War (1914–1918) were resonating throughout the world as a whole and the individual lives of most people. Interesting about THE TEMPEST considering our guest star...XDI am assuming now the Future (2036) is going to be playing a larger role. I was trying to think if Jessica Holt relates to anyone or anything? I tossed the name through the anagram server and got, "A Chisel Jots", "Ace His Jolts", Ash Coil Jets" "Chase Is Jolt/Jolt Is Chase/ Is Jolt Chase", "Josh Scale It", "Slash Ice Jot" are some of the semi coherent ones...Looking at "Holts" there is an Olav (sounds like "Olive" Holt...he was an upper atmospheric physicshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olav_Holt I was hoping for a name that went with the novel, but no such luck.
Maybe... or maybe not we're gonna have to wait until FOX decide... lets hhope to know something before the end of the week...
ReplyDeleteWOW THANKS!!
ReplyDeletePerhaps it mirrors Heroes' finale? (As this is one of those sister-cousin shows of BR, even "SLUSHO" makes and appearance!)
ReplyDeleteSo since I have never seen Heroes, how did it end??
(I am thinking of the Cortexifaners here)
Ha! Maybe this should have been the episode title! :D
ReplyDeleteAnd gosh, to think it goes from "World's Apart" to "Brave New World"!!!
ReplyDeleteIt would be entirely appropriate, given that Jones is the new MIB.
ReplyDeleteThe Road Not Taken is such a great episode because
ReplyDelete1. Walter explains that properties of cortexifan
a: Telekenesis, b: reality travel c. Deja Vu = memories from past iterations)
2: Olivia actually travels to another iteration in which BOTH Lewis and Prat had died, but the information received from experiencing the alternate-previous time line allowed her to be able to save one of the twins! -Showing us a type of "progression".
3. Lewis and Pratt were the first to deal with pyrokenesis...until Sally Clarke (Over There pt1/2)...she DISAPPEARED with Nick Lane's burnt body...and almost killed Red Lee...
I think that king Observer might be MIB, so maybe Jones could be "Mother". XD
ReplyDeleteCan't wait - sure to be yet another fantastic performance from John Noble and we're heading to a showdown with DRJ.
ReplyDeleteThis actually reminds me a little of Fringe's "The Firefly" being the first to air on Fridays last year. At this point, even if it isn't intentional with respect to Heroes, I see it more as hilarious symmetry. And of course, there's more implication to "Brave New World" than other tv shows.
ReplyDeleteNo, King Observer is Jacob. Jones' motive, at least in part, is a war against the Observers. Thus, he is MIB.
ReplyDeleteAnd to answer your question about Heroes: The fourth season ended with Claire (the cheerleader from that obnoxious meme) revealing to the world the existence of people with super-powers.
This was tweeted yesterday:
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Join Exec producers JPFringe and JWFringe
in a live Tweer-along during
both east and west coast broadcast
of this weeks episode
Fri at 9
What does MIB stand for??
ReplyDeleteMan In Black. He was the physical embodiment of the smoke monster on the last two seasons of Lost. HTH.
ReplyDeleteAll I got from that was Mass Effect 2. :)
ReplyDeleteI have the feeling that we might get indeed a New World... Red Verse + Blue/Orange Verse United?
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It's so vague. They usually are but boy, if it doesn't make me excited all the same.
ReplyDeleteLove the new title as that is a great novel. Also Walter centric episodes are always good with me
ReplyDeleteTotally what I've thought!!!
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correct, there were 2 twin sisters this episode, and one of them combusted. Also, they were redheads... maybe they tried to find a similar actress?
ReplyDeleteYeah,I saw that too...Which only means one thing:
ReplyDeleteEpisode 19 is going to be EPIC!!!
Yeah, they wouldn't have changed the title unless they got the renewal. :)
ReplyDeleteWow, wonderful insight! But yeah, I think you're right the observers are here to make sure the timeline goes according to whatever they think it should go like.
ReplyDeleteWhich is somehow also related to Olivia having (a) child(ren) with Peter.
Love that game!
ReplyDeleteLol this show. They changed the premier and the finale titles. I am liking these ones much more than the netiher here nor there change though. I had a soft spot for A Sort of Homecoming but I will not miss the endgame.
ReplyDeleteHa! Indeed! Can't wait!! :)
ReplyDeleteWell there's a good debate about who was really bad, Jacob or MIB, or both...Jacob, despite his distance from humanity and IMO his poor dealings with humanity, wanted to protect the Island and humanity...it seems like the Observers don't want to protect humanity anymore, but protect themselves...For MIB to leave, would be to "break apart the Island" and then no human progress could be made (no rebirth) and So agian MIB like the Observers could be out for themselves and not everyone else...They're waging war too, just like Nero came back and destroyed Vulcan.
ReplyDeleteThey've done too many "similar case of past seasons" episodes for my taste. I'm getting tired of it. I did not like last week's callback to the episode involving Broyles's kid. It weakened an otherwise good episode. And unless we see Sanford Harris's doppelganger, we won't see the best part of The Road not Taken--where Harris explodes in flames. Yay!
ReplyDeleteThis i would have to agree with!
ReplyDeleteSo I trying to do a 12 episode or so Rewatch of cetain season1-3 episodes and last night I watched "Inner Child" and "Bad Dreams"...
ReplyDeleteI keep thinking there is something to split incarnates and convergences of past and future, as It will be curious if we see "children Observers" in this episode. --But it was also interesting that he was found underground sealed in what looked like was an old prison cell...
But "Bad Dreams" has Walter mentioning A.Huxley! (The writer of "Brave New World")
WALTER: It worked on perception. Carlos Castaneda, Aldous Huxley, Werner Heisenberg, all focused on one single elementary truth. Perception is the key to transformation.PETER: Reality is both subjective and malleable. If you can dream a better world, you can make a better world.WALTER: Or perhaps travel between them.
I've been thinking of "Inner Child" as well, because the child was apparently a young observer, and he had an uncanny relationship with Olivia and could read her heart and mind. I wonder if he'll show up as an adult and seek out Olivia.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong! -We really don't know yet what their agenda is and why they feel the need to get so out of control. --In that sense there is a good bit of Jacob there, but if it's so extreme that they only care about protecting themselves from extinction, then their judgement may be hurting humanity, rather than protect humanity...as now people are deemed as "mistakes" and are written out of time lines, instead of just being brought to justice...In that sense humanity is being kept in a "bubble" and being punished for something they don't understand.
ReplyDeleteI really hope at some point we come to understand the truth of why he was there, and whom he is.
ReplyDeleteRobert's King Observer ideas has me wondering if it is him...I always thought it was a younger version of September, but it could be anybody!
Hey Darth, could you recommend some other episodes i need to watch so i know whats going on.The meds i'm on take the pain away but they make things hazy and forgettable.Lately it seems to be worse, and i was already hanging by a thread as it was... :P
ReplyDeleteI def think or whatever reason The Observers have deemed the Red Bishops as "bad" and "Mistakes"...and there is this theme to be better than our fathers, suggesting a need of HOPE in a future generation. My guess is that the Observers refuse to let certain Bloodline's progress and they keep leading humanity to re-write their past over and over, probably for the sake of keeping themselves and their future "constant". (fighting extinction)
ReplyDeleteAlso the Beyond Fringe Comics give hints that the Cortexifan Subjects may be able to Genetically pass their abilities onto their children...in one comic Olivia and Peter have a son named Trevor with abilities to "see the future".
(This also probably relates to how the Observers can see many futures/pasts/ect, as I believe giving cortexifan to the shapeshifters is on step along the way in creating the Observers)I also forgot that Olivia also had some pyro abilities, as she could burn a whole room to the ground...So I do think that Jessica Holt must relate to her, Pratt, Lewis, and maybe even by extension Sally Clarke some how.It makes me also think about the plot of Stephen King's "Firestarter"Firestarter is the story of Andy and Charlene "Charlie" McGee, a father-daughter pair on the run from a government agency known as The Shop, Some of us wonder if Holt is Jones and Meana's daughter, or a genetically modified variated clone-shapshifter of Jones?????????
Did you have an operation?
ReplyDeleteNot yet, i have two herniated discs,a bugling disc,and nerve damage that runs down my leg,and a few other assorted medical problems...
ReplyDeleteDamn. That sounds horrible. Hope you get better.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
ReplyDeleteI had another thought...
ReplyDeleteIf the Observers are Bee Hive Mind that protect the Bee Hive, how do we get them out and destroy the hive?
My reasoning comes from Alias....the first title presented to us was "End Game" and this is a phrase that was used in Alias to describe the goal of Milo Rambaldi induced by Arvin Sloane, the Covenant, and Prophet Five.
I joked about Arvin's Clone, which Alias fans may find similar to creating variated clone children, like in "A Better Human Being"....but I forgot about the muller devise, Arvin's clone, the Orchid, and the bees!
There was this whole plot in which there bees guarding and caring for this Orchid in an Itallian Momastary...and one can use it with the muller devise to be able to control of large populations of people including turning them into sub-human infected creatures...The muller device could disrupt brainwave frequency and the orchid (genetically modified) had an ability to induce compliance and collective control and made beings aggressive. This was considered one of Rambaldi's "end games" and was executed by Irena de Revko. It was Ned Bolger (Arvin's Clone) that went to get the Orchid at the Monetary.
I ditto Robert.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what was intended for season 5?
ReplyDeleteThat sounds painful! Maybe we can get Walter to whip you up a peyote mash!
ReplyDeleteBut really I hope your ok?
I am just rewatching Observer and Cortexifn releated episodes...
My List: Inner Child, Bad Dreams, The Road Not Taken, More Than One of Everything, Fracture, August, Over There Pt 1&2,, Bloodline, The Last Sam Weiss, and The Day We Died...
LOL Sure i could always use another pain killer,lol..Between the pain meds and the muscle relaxants i'm really set,but by tonight i will need some of Walters home made goodness! Nights are the hardest,after a day a being up and doing things,listen enough of me...thanks for the list i will try to get this done asap! Lately i wish this was just a procedural show,not much thinking involved in that,and lately it seems i do that rather well,ha!!
ReplyDeleteSo Darth what do you think about Pinkner and Wyman tweeting Friday night? I think its just because of the episode,after last week i dare not get my hopes up....
Aww thanks Linda! :)
ReplyDeleteIt ended like every other show that ended on a season finale did. It was a disappointing cliffhanger finale.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you guys. With out it we can't prove there is relativity of the universes. We need to understand that creating "change" is hard, especially if there is a bigger unknown force involved...(history is trying to repeat itself)
ReplyDeleteI also like it because it implies that humanity can get "second chances" to attempt to redeem themselves.
I love being able to see characters from previous seasons show up this late in the game, because it solidifies and justifies the story, and allows us to be able to combine several elements in much more complex way, and thus we get a climax and a sense of progression. Nothing we have seen is useless.
Not really. Before it could be developed, it was canceled.
ReplyDeleteBrave New World? I didn't read that book but I have just read something about it - it looks like a vision of the future world VERY similar to episode 4x19, Observers etc. And well, it's going to be EPIC!
ReplyDeleteNever read the comics unfortunately. But what you say makes sense, a lot of it. And I guess with Jones you never really know, maybe it's a little of both?
ReplyDeleteAnd how are you fighting extinction if you preserve yourself by eliminating all other possibilities? I'm pretty sure you're doing something else entirely at that point. And with the Observers as advanced as they are, being from the future, how do we even stand a chance?
Considering it WAS called "End Times" I think this is a better change. IF it were the other way around I think we all would be in a tizzy.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Jessica the name of Walter's lab assistant who did in the fire?
ReplyDeleteI know episode title get changed constintly, but leaving it til the last minute like this seems very strange to me. TPTB must know something we don't.
ReplyDeleteNo one is forcing you to speculate,try and control yourself.Fringe people are trying very hard to get a 5th season,knowing how badly their fan base want to hear the news one way or another,don't you think they would let us know right-away, i do.
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