well, this wierd white palace full of observers looks like their massive-dynamic-style lab. I watched it very slow and Ive notices words flashing, like "serve", "obey", "heed" - those words connote us about a dictatorial government in the future. In addition, The flashing words at the end says: "NO IMAGINATION, NO DUE PROCESS, NO PRIVATE THOUGHTS, NO COMMUNITY, NO JOY, NO OWNERSHIP, NO EDUCATION, NO FREEDOM". creepy. I defenitley can hear something backwards, but I don't have the tools to play it backwards, so if someone can it will be great. The best for last - I've noticed in 0:06 a very short title that seems like a website link but it brings me to error 404, if someone can find what is that mean... it says: 2/4 be.com/watch?
Dor Fiderer a few of us noticed that also, we think it's part of a link because in the first teaser there's one frame with "1/4" and what appears to be the first part of the link "www.youtu" Has anyone else tried listening to the teaser backwards, I'm not too sure if my hearing is up to scratch but I can make out a voice saying "he died" and "ancient" or maybe "agent"?
I can't play it backwards maybe Darque can? Can anyone tell me what they are saying? I listened a bunch of times and i only understood native crime.....
What The Fringe is going on??? Seriosly,with those teasers,they are digging this week's episode grave because I don't even care about this week's episode anymore,I want to see episode 19 NOW!
You're right! It def has that feel and look to it!!!!
I think we may be working toward your King Observer Theory!...It would appear that this time period is acting as "the hub" of all Observers and there influence in various times...
I am also wondering the significance of the Greek-Coptic writing for uppercase "sigma" in the center of the flask?
I went to do a little research
The name of sigma, according to one theory,[1] may continue that of Phoenician Samekh. According to a different theory,[2] its original name may have been "San" (the name today associated with another, obsolete letter), while "Sigma" was a Greek innovation that simply meant "hissing", based on a nominalization of a verb σίζω (sízō, from earlier *sig-jō, meaning 'I hiss').
Upper caseUpper case Σ is used as a symbol for:the summation operator a class of baryons in particle physics macroscopic cross sections in nuclear and particle physics self-energy in condensed matter physics the balance of the invoice classes and the overall amount of the debts and demands in economics the set of symbols that form an alphabet in linguistics and computer science the covariance matrix of a set of random variables in probability theory and statistics, sometimes in the form to distinguish it from the summation operator.During the 1930s, an upper case Σ was in use as the symbol of the Ação Integralista Brasileira, a radical right-wing party in Brazil.
So it seemingly has to to with advanced alchemy (flask = chemistry, quantum mechanics, "mixing") and balancing.
So I def think the root of all problems lies here with "The Ministry of Science".
my personal therapy = this song, full blast in the bathroom, while i'm floating in the tub with the lights off.. no worries afterwards.. strange looks from my dogs.. but no worries :)
I think we are too, Darth. Look at this screen capture from this promo (courtesy of Fringe Bloggers). The original HTTP had this picture listed as "emperor observer". This might be the guy:
It's weird....I'm actually thinking that "native on native" is actually the question of "Who Shot September?". As in Observer shooting Observer. Whether it's December, one of the other Observers of the "science division", or some other Observer, I don't know.
I can't tell if it's Peter or Henry Ian Cusick? --But so far we haven't actually had any set photos of Joshua Jackson or Anna Torv for this episode...so I am wondering if they are even in it?!
I just came to add looking as Star Trek Memory Alpha (Star trek wiki) that specifically dealing with Enterprise' series "temporal cold war" the times from which people "originate" are called "native", so it is my guess considering there are so many similarities here, that native crimes does refer to the crimes of the time period in this case their 2036.
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well, this wierd white palace full of observers looks like their massive-dynamic-style lab.
ReplyDeleteI watched it very slow and Ive notices words flashing, like "serve", "obey", "heed" - those words connote us about a dictatorial government in the future.
In addition, The flashing words at the end says: "NO IMAGINATION, NO DUE PROCESS, NO PRIVATE THOUGHTS, NO COMMUNITY, NO JOY, NO OWNERSHIP, NO EDUCATION, NO FREEDOM". creepy.
I defenitley can hear something backwards, but I don't have the tools to play it backwards, so if someone can it will be great.
The best for last - I've noticed in 0:06 a very short title that seems like a website link but it brings me to error 404, if someone can find what is that mean... it says:
2/4
be.com/watch?
Dor Fiderer a few of us noticed that also, we think it's part of a link because in the first teaser there's one frame with "1/4" and what appears to be the first part of the link "www.youtu"
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else tried listening to the teaser backwards, I'm not too sure if my hearing is up to scratch but I can make out a voice saying "he died" and "ancient" or maybe "agent"?
Ohh, so there are 2 more parts? in this teaser or in another one? curious...
ReplyDeleteWow, this is intriguing. I can't wait to find out what the rest of that link is.
ReplyDeleteI think when we get all the parts together it will take us to a youtube video with something special...My guess anyway :)
ReplyDeleteThe hell is native crime?
ReplyDeleteI can't play it backwards maybe Darque can? Can anyone tell me what they are saying? I listened a bunch of times and i only understood native crime.....
ReplyDeleteThe voice reminded me of "August".
ReplyDeleteWhat The Fringe is going on???
ReplyDeleteSeriosly,with those teasers,they are digging this week's episode grave because I don't even care about this week's episode anymore,I want to see episode 19 NOW!
curiouser and curiouser.... i'm so glad i took the blue AND red pills :O))))
ReplyDelete:pretended to shake dice: coooome on Fringe... ma'am needs a season five...
"Your division is in charge of native crime. Would you rather I were in charge of native crime?" Who are the natives?
ReplyDeleteThe Others! j/k
ReplyDeleteBut it is interesting that there may be "people" that are considered "Native" to a PLACE! --But I wondering if they mean Native To A Time?!
I know right
ReplyDeleteYeah my guess would be that by the 2030s, The Observers rule over "natives," as in humans of the current time and place.
ReplyDeleteWhenever I see the image of September (or whoever that Observer is) sitting at 0:04, I always think of my favorite movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey.
ReplyDeleteYou're right! It def has that feel and look to it!!!!
ReplyDeleteI think we may be working toward your King Observer Theory!...It would appear that this time period is acting as "the hub" of all Observers and there influence in various times...
yup, the first one is to youtube. Now we wait for part 3 and 4 :)
ReplyDeleteOne pill makes you smaller
ReplyDeleteand one pill makes you tall
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I am also wondering the significance of the Greek-Coptic writing for uppercase "sigma" in the center of the flask?
ReplyDeleteI went to do a little research
The name of sigma, according to one theory,[1] may continue that of Phoenician Samekh. According to a different theory,[2] its original name may have been "San" (the name today associated with another, obsolete letter), while "Sigma" was a Greek innovation that simply meant "hissing", based on a nominalization of a verb σίζω (sízō, from earlier *sig-jō, meaning 'I hiss').
Upper caseUpper case Σ is used as a symbol for:the summation operator
a class of baryons in particle physics
macroscopic cross sections in nuclear and particle physics
self-energy in condensed matter physics
the balance of the invoice classes and the overall amount of the debts and demands in economics
the set of symbols that form an alphabet in linguistics and computer science
the covariance matrix of a set of random variables in probability theory and statistics, sometimes in the form to distinguish it from the summation operator.During the 1930s, an upper case Σ was in use as the symbol of the Ação Integralista Brasileira, a radical right-wing party in Brazil.
So it seemingly has to to with advanced alchemy (flask = chemistry, quantum mechanics, "mixing") and balancing.
So I def think the root of all problems lies here with "The Ministry of Science".
my personal therapy = this song, full blast in the bathroom, while i'm floating in the tub with the lights off.. no worries afterwards.. strange looks from my dogs.. but no worries :)
ReplyDeleteI think we are too, Darth. Look at this screen capture from this promo (courtesy of Fringe Bloggers). The original HTTP had this picture listed as "emperor observer". This might be the guy:
ReplyDeleteIt's SO weird and fun to see one in a trench coat!
ReplyDeleteHe does look mighty authoritative!
He looks like Mendez, the head mutant from Beneath The Planet Of The Apes.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting a mash-up of 1984, Fahrenheit 451 & Brave New World in my head.
ReplyDeleteIt's weird....I'm actually thinking that "native on native" is actually the question of "Who Shot September?". As in Observer shooting Observer. Whether it's December, one of the other Observers of the "science division", or some other Observer, I don't know.
ReplyDeleteSomething like "Agent" and "Died"
ReplyDeleteThat's a very good thought. A hitman was hired to gun down August, but did an observer shoot September? Was that against the rules?
ReplyDeleteObserver Peter? Sweet?!
ReplyDeleteConsidering September's level of interference in the timeline, it wouldn't surprise me if an Observer took things into his own hands.
ReplyDeleteThanks! :P
ReplyDeleteI'm so excited for this ep - love the 19 eps and this one looks amazing!
ReplyDeleteLooks like Peter is sitting with one of the Observers.
ReplyDeleteSomething tells me Walter and Rufus use to go through that exact same routine!
ReplyDeleteI can't tell if it's Peter or Henry Ian Cusick? --But so far we haven't actually had any set photos of Joshua Jackson or Anna Torv for this episode...so I am wondering if they are even in it?!
ReplyDeletemy thoughts exactly. My guess: a special message from September!
ReplyDeleteI just came to add looking as Star Trek Memory Alpha (Star trek wiki) that specifically dealing with Enterprise' series "temporal cold war" the times from which people "originate" are called "native", so it is my guess considering there are so many similarities here, that native crimes does refer to the crimes of the time period in this case their 2036.
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