I think we are kidding ourselves here if we think fringe is getting another season.
There is a grey area about money etc. and people will probably reply going "but... but... if we all put this amount in". Or "surely Fox won't pull another Firefly" and all the other frequent excuses. But let's face facts. 0.9 on Fox, even on a Friday, is ridiculously low.
Don't get me wrong Fringe is my favourite show, along with Community. I want another season but its very obvious to me that we won't get it.
it was hunger games night premiere lets wait what the other shows did to judge. if they did better and we sucked then we start cry and throw tomatoes to the nielsen boxes.....
Maybe you should post masked scheduler's other tweet too where he says that the opening of Hunger Games could have impacted the ratings. I said that to my Fringies at work on Wednesday already. Don't give up hope Fringies, hang in there and keep supporting. Fringe Rocks and it needs to stay.
I'll be sorry to see the show go, but it totally lost me this season. I didn't even bother catching up on demand, just said that I'll wait for the DVD. :/
yeah i forgot that too. Lets wait the rest of the ratings and keep calm . The twitter /getglue exploded last night. we trend the tag in first position ....worldwide...shame to get 0,9 ...ughh nielsen...
If Fox cancels Fringe, what'll be left? Terra Nova and House are already cancelled, and Alcatraz is unlikely to get picked up for another season. Fringe is the Friday Ruler of Fox. It has to be renewed.
Yes, but Fringe, like all of the genre shows usually has hard-core fan base who watch religiously every week, so unless those fans of Fringe are also big basketball fans, then I would put in down to a actual fall in viewers.
I didn't see it, but perhaps the episode was just not interesting.
That is the worst rating for Fringe I've ever seen... :( But I'm not giving up yet... Yes there was basketball last night and of course the night premiere of The Hunger Games at the movies... But I was watching Fringe over my local Blazer game... Basketball can wait, I already know the score... Let's wait and see what it does next week! We can't give up Fringies!
I cannot see the ratings in 18-49 and viewers column. I desactivate some firefox add-on like No script; adblock and ghostery but I still cannot see the numbers.
What should I do?
By reading comment, I understand Fringe is not doing good :-/ What can we do about that? Is there a campaign "save fringe" somewhere? Is it useful to write to Fox?
I had a few friends over watching the NCAAs and watched Fringe after. So I know it happens. Though I usually watch it "semi-live", starting at 8:15 or so and forwarding through commercials.
I do think it was a boring episode, one of the worst of the series honestly. I'm one of those people that does not think episode quality affects ratings for that episode very much. People tune in and watch before they know it was bad.
If the second half hour drops dramatically then I can see it. Usually I think bad episodes affect the next episode's numbers more. I could be completely off on my thought process though. I've never read anything to support my theory I guess....
I'm interested to see the over all numbers for the night too.....
Well, one way to look at this is that Fringe just moved from 70/30 to 98%. Just... don't tell anyone it's 98% for cancellation... unless Fox and WB are willing to take a severe hit in the ratings department on the off chance they'll make more money on syndication.
The ep was definitely not to blame - that ROCKED. It'll be interesting to see the +7DVR rating, because I think there's a huge crossover with the audience who'd be running to see The Hunger Games first night.
OTOH, and this may sound weird but...I have adored this show since day one, and it seems to be rocketing towards a brilliant conclusion. I think I would rather have it end amazingly this year, than drag on for another with no story left to tell, as Bab5 did. And I rather hope TPTB feel the same. Every story eventually ends, I just hope they know one way or another before the finale is in the can.
Unfortunately, the people in charge have said they've got... what was it, SEVEN years of storyline planned out since the start of the series? That is NOT going to happen, and they've said they're going to be ending on a "season finale that could double as a series finale", like Heroes did...
Brace yourself, for this is definitely the last season of Fringe. Reconcile with it. Make peace already. When it will get officially cancelled, the pain will be easier to swallow. Peter is in his universe, Olivia is his. Everything is just fine. We had four wonderful seasons. Many good shows didn't even manage to last that long.
0.6 it is,unfortunately... http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/03/24/tv-ratings-friday-blame-hunger-games-supernatural-fringe-fall-to-new-lows-nikita-inches-higher-cbs-wins-with-ncaa-basketball/125856/
FOX decided to say goodbuy to FRINGE the day they moved the show on Fridays. Really Bad Choice considering the VCR ratings (which indicate that people can't watch live but still watch the show afterwards). If you really want to save this amazing show US viewers really need to watch it Live. Only few things can be done by the rest of us, and last night's twitter trend #WereYouBelong was a success worldwide. I still hope and I have repeatedly argued tha Warner Bros will realize the great impact this show has worldwide and will decide to take it to the next level and that is... a movie.
Another significant factor was probably summer-like temperatures in a good chunk of the U.S. this week. When it warms up, a lot of people go out on Friday nights rather than stay home.
Wow that was a horrible rated evening, even for a friday. Sucks for Fringe and Supernatural but I doubt supernatural is in any trouble for renewal.
I'm positive Fringe will climb back up as it airs it's 7 remaining episodes without interuption. As long as is back up to a 1.2 within 2/3 weeks. I'm still in denial :p Kitchen Nightmare also dropped bigtime, like .5 of their normal rating.. let's see if it picks up coming weeks! I doubt they will announce renewal or cancellation updates on fringe before May anyway
I'll wait till Monday then...Thanks! I'm not worried though.It sucks because the episode was really good,but I'm still 100% sure that there will be another season.
The problem is that The Secret Circle is very lead-in dependent, kind of like how Nikita was last year. If the CW chooses to put a new show in that slot next year, it will probably drop.
If the Secret Circle Is put Into the friday night slot In fall It Is going to drop heavily.Nikita has an audence loyal that has stuck with It.It really hasn't moved from 0.5 In demo all season.The Secret Circle Isn't likely to do any better than Nikita as leadin to Supernatural.When renewal time comes It will probally be between Nikita and Secret CIrcle for the first hour on Friday.
My concern for next season Is they bring back Nikita.
Very worried for Fringe :( I know, Hunger Games, but still.
But I had to laugh a bit at Supenatural. Everyone was saying how so many Cas fans who left when he did, would come flooding back in with his return. Well, apparently not, or he doesn't make that much of a ratings impact as people thought.
I hate so badly those Nielson box who decided tohe fate of our shows....if a show lose like...I don't know...20, for a night, they said we lost X hundred of thousand of viewers -_- We don't need to really have thousands of viewers to go watch the game or the movie to make the Nielson viewers fall badly, so we just never know if/how it can affect. Its annoying
I know I'm so tired of hearing that. The ratings don't seem to indicate that at all. His absence had no effect on the ratings at all and now he comes back and we see a series low. Makes you wonder. I'm dying to see them prove that statement. The big drop in ratings actually occurred in season 6- a VERY Cas centric season- started off at about 2.8 million and the finale dropped to around 2 million.
My opinion,Cas' presence doesn't affect the ratings,in a bad or a good way.It's true that he has a large fanbase,but the majority watches the show whether he's in it or not.. So,it wasn't because of Cas that the premiere had higher numbers,it wasn't because of Cas that this episode had lower numbers and it definitely wasn't because of Cas that the ratings dropped in season 6.The show(and every single show out there) drops every year...
What did you people expect after a month hiatus? The ratings are already low, this doesn't bother me much. Fox knows Fringe has around 6 million viewers here in the US. DVR numbers will push Fringe up big time.
Fringe was the only serialized drama tonight, the other one is just a reality show, but you're right, Fox isn't exactly doing so well with their serialized dramas.
Well this is atrocious news. Fringe won't survive at this level and Supernatural got hit much harder than Nikita, making this a series low. Here's hoping there are major demo adjustments up on Monday. A 0.9 and 0.6 cannot be the finals.
I saw this headline earlier and it took me like 3 hours to even click the link and read everyone else's response. I am hoping though that Hunger Games and Basketball might play a role here and that next week we are more normal...
I think the big drop off in season 6 was about the change in tone of the series - the noir influence, soulless Sammy, and the lack of brotherly bond in the first half. No one even knew the season would center around Cas until the final few episodes.
I do not know why this has hit me so hard,but it has and i just haven't been able to let it go .I've been bummed out before but i must say this is an all time low....Topping it off my husband wonders why after spending so much of my time here i am not in the top 100.Now what do i tell him?
Normally I’d be tearing my hair out over this, but I’m only mildly displeased. Though basketball and The Hunger Games were certainly a large factor, this episode was terrible and the ratings reflect this. If they keep pumping out this garbage, I’m not sure I even want another season.
I'm not watching Fringe, so I can't tell you if the episode was good or not, but quality of the episodes aren't affecting that much the episodes. If an episode, of any serie, is great, you need to watch it to know it, but if you decided to go away you won't know and won't be counted in the live ratings
Same for a bad episode, if you stay home a friday night to watch your show, chances are you'll at least watch 'til the end.
Its more the quality of the episode of the week before that has more chances to affect the ratings than the quality of the episode of the night
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Actually One Tree Hill will take that label this week just like it did last week. OTH got a 0.8 in demo this week and last. I still expect that SPN will adjust up to a 0.7 in the finals, effectively tying 90210 and Secret Circle. However, I doubt that its overall numbers will be higher than TSC so that would make SPN 4th this week. Last week it was 3rd by tying TSC in demo but having higher overall numbers. Of course total viewers doesn't mean anything in the real scheme of things anyway.
Not according to my spreadsheet but I could be wrong. There were sometimes I had to back track but I think I would remember if SPN adjusted up 2 tenths instead of one. That would have been major news for me.
Absolutely! Fringe had 0.9 in both half hours so obviously those who watched it watched until the end. Now if the ratings fall next week, you may be able to blame a bad episode the previous week but I doubt enough people knew it would be a "bad" episode in advance to change the ratings for it last night. (Not that I know if it was bad or not because I still haven't gotten to view it. Hate having to look for a link now that Cuevana was shut down.) You just have to look at Supernatural's ratings to see that quality of an episode has no effect on its ratings. The highest rated episode of SPN was Route 666, and I have yet to see someone put that episode in their top 10 but it sure made quite a few people's 10 worst list including mine.
As for Supernatural... *cower* It's lower than normal! I thought we were going to stay steady at .07! *weeps in the corner* Oh, CW, please please don't cancel my beloved show!
I do have to say though... It looks like all the shameless, excessive promoting of Castiel didn't do that much good.
Yep, SPN received an 0.6 in the prelims for 7.12 Time After Time, an episode that was also heavily promoted and very favorably advance reviewed and it was adjusted up in the finals but without any increase in viewers.
I do realize that and I'm not speaking for ZoeF but on some fan sites the belief is that "Sera" ruined the show when Cas died ignobly and (so the ratings dropped ;) ) and "that will teach the showrunners a lesson" and then they said the ratings would rise when "Cas came back" and that would teach the showrunners another lesson, and that was never to mess with the Dean-Cas bond.
*Of course, its all BS* and you all are correct and the drop or rise in the ratings has nothing to do with "Cas" being in the episode or not.
*What is humorous*, and I think that's what ZoeF meant is a portion of the MC/Cas-online fandom making loud claims that demoting MC to a guest star rather than regular hurt the ratings badly and that the ratings would improve when MC rejoined the show for 3 or more episodes.
I *think* both Fringe and SPN share similar proportions of male viewers in all adult age ranges, and those males are more likely to watch basketball "live" and DVR their second choice show. Since basketball is not confined to just CBS but air other games on (non-network) cable stations maybe their DVRs are recording those games and Fringe and SPN with both perform well in the L+3's or the L+7's.
I guess Harry's Law will show whether total viewers means anything on a failing network. It's really not fair to compare the CW with networks like CBS when it comes to future plans.
Seriously... TWO HUGE NCAA games affected these #s significantly! Is Fringe looking good? Not exactly... but yesterday is not much of an indicator and Executives know this.
"Sera" took over and immediately gave us unrecognizable Sam and no direction. Instead of convincing fans she had a handle on the series it felt like she had no idea who the main characters were. It didn't inspire loyalty, and that had nothing to do with the Cas storyline.
0.6 ZERO POINT SIXARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEand here I am yelling... though last night I was out watching the Hunger Game :S oups Kinda lost interest in season 7, feels like everything in s6 was for nothing, loved last night. I'm gonna buy the dvd it pay attention while watching so maybe it will be better cause so far I liked the first 5-6 eps. and like a random one somewhere. ~ Pretty sure I'll love every scene with Misha ahah I just really love Castiel okay
OUCH! That hit me very hard yesterday. A 0.9 for Fringe. :( But then I realized: There is hope left! If you look at Fringe's lead-in, "The Kitchen Nightmares" it only got a 1.0 - and it usually is 0.2-0.3 better than Fringe, right? And who knows what the final ratings will be - could be a 1.0 which would be a lot better. :) For myself - I won't give up until Fox cancels it. So I will hope for next week. As I always do.
That's exactly what I meant so you did speak for me there lol. And I think the fortunes of the show rise and fall with the brother's bond and how well it's portrayed.
I know. I consider it to be the biggest fail on Kripke and the WB's part for the whole series. After all, Asylum, Scarecrow, and Faith all came right before Route 666. If they had extended the hiatus by one week, all those lovely viewers would have seen Faith instead of Route 666. Who knows how many people would have been hooked into SPN then instead of seeing one of the worst episodes of them all.
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omg bye bye fringe :(
ReplyDeleteI hope it only builds up after this episode since we get 7 straight episodes. PLEASE I NEED A DECENT ENDING.
ReplyDeleteWhen are people going to wake up and realize that this show is awesome?
ReplyDeleteI think we are kidding ourselves here if we think fringe is getting another season.
ReplyDeleteThere is a grey area about money etc. and people will probably reply going "but... but... if we all put this amount in". Or "surely Fox won't pull another Firefly" and all the other frequent excuses. But let's face facts. 0.9 on Fox, even on a Friday, is ridiculously low.
Don't get me wrong Fringe is my favourite show, along with Community. I want another season but its very obvious to me that we won't get it.
I just can't fucking believe this.......
ReplyDeleteit was hunger games night premiere lets wait what the other shows did to judge. if they did better and we sucked then we start cry and throw tomatoes to the nielsen boxes.....
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should post masked scheduler's other tweet too where he says that the opening of Hunger Games could have impacted the ratings.
ReplyDeleteI said that to my Fringies at work on Wednesday already.
Don't give up hope Fringies, hang in there and keep supporting.
Fringe Rocks and it needs to stay.
I'll be sorry to see the show go, but it totally lost me this season. I didn't even bother catching up on demand, just said that I'll wait for the DVD. :/
ReplyDeleteThere were a few good Bball games too.
ReplyDeleteNo surprise whatsoever to me.
ReplyDeleteThe NCAA Basketball Tournament gets HUGE ratings every year and I'm sure it steals from just about every show on when it airs.
yeah i forgot that too. Lets wait the rest of the ratings and keep calm . The twitter /getglue exploded last night. we trend the tag in first position ....worldwide...shame to get 0,9 ...ughh nielsen...
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for Fringe fans (I'm still catching up with the show)
ReplyDeleteBut this news made me actually scared out of my mind about Supernatural ratings... *Bites lip*
See, already "Hunger Games premiere" and "Basketball", all useless excuses that come out every week. There is ALWAYS something.
ReplyDeleteRight there with you about Supernatural...I'm not asking for much,I'll be happy if the ratings simply remain the same..
ReplyDeleteIf Fox cancels Fringe, what'll be left? Terra Nova and House are already cancelled, and Alcatraz is unlikely to get picked up for another season.
ReplyDeleteFringe is the Friday Ruler of Fox. It has to be renewed.
(Yep, trying to convince myself.)
Three words: The Hunger Games.
ReplyDelete:'(
ReplyDeleteYeah, me too! I'm dreading a 0.6 or even a 0.5... With all the competition I don't think it's impossible, but GOD! I don't wanna!
ReplyDeleteDamn! But there's always hope, so I won't give up.
ReplyDeleteIt only means it's under 0.9, whichi wouldn't exactly be a surprise, right ? ;)
ReplyDeleteThey could cancel a lot of shows like they did last year with Lie to Me and Human Target.
ReplyDeleteYes, but Fringe, like all of the genre shows usually has hard-core fan base who watch religiously every week, so unless those fans of Fringe are also big basketball fans, then I would put in down to a actual fall in viewers.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see it, but perhaps the episode was just not interesting.
I'm curious to see how the other shows have done.
Fringe's fate is in the hands of the gods now.
ReplyDeleteNot a surprise, but the higher the better, right?
ReplyDeleteThat is the worst rating for Fringe I've ever seen... :( But I'm not giving up yet... Yes there was basketball last night and of course the night premiere of The Hunger Games at the movies... But I was watching Fringe over my local Blazer game... Basketball can wait, I already know the score... Let's wait and see what it does next week! We can't give up Fringies!
ReplyDeleteI cannot see the ratings in 18-49 and viewers column.
ReplyDeleteI desactivate some firefox add-on like No script; adblock and ghostery but I still cannot see the numbers.
What should I do?
By reading comment, I understand Fringe is not doing good :-/
What can we do about that? Is there a campaign "save fringe" somewhere? Is it useful to write to Fox?
I had a few friends over watching the NCAAs and watched Fringe after. So I know it happens. Though I usually watch it "semi-live", starting at 8:15 or so and forwarding through commercials.
ReplyDeleteI do think it was a boring episode, one of the worst of the series honestly. I'm one of those people that does not think episode quality affects ratings for that episode very much. People tune in and watch before they know it was bad.
If the second half hour drops dramatically then I can see it. Usually I think bad episodes affect the next episode's numbers more. I could be completely off on my thought process though. I've never read anything to support my theory I guess....
I'm interested to see the over all numbers for the night too.....
YAY MASSIVE DENIAL!
ReplyDelete...
:'(
Well, one way to look at this is that Fringe just moved from 70/30 to 98%. Just... don't tell anyone it's 98% for cancellation... unless Fox and WB are willing to take a severe hit in the ratings department on the off chance they'll make more money on syndication.
ReplyDeleteThe ep was definitely not to blame - that ROCKED. It'll be interesting to see the +7DVR rating, because I think there's a huge crossover with the audience who'd be running to see The Hunger Games first night.
ReplyDeleteOTOH, and this may sound weird but...I have adored this show since day one, and it seems to be rocketing towards a brilliant conclusion. I think I would rather have it end amazingly this year, than drag on for another with no story left to tell, as Bab5 did. And I rather hope TPTB feel the same. Every story eventually ends, I just hope they know one way or another before the finale is in the can.
No I refuse to believe it, this is some horrible early April Fool's joke. #denial
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the people in charge have said they've got... what was it, SEVEN years of storyline planned out since the start of the series? That is NOT going to happen, and they've said they're going to be ending on a "season finale that could double as a series finale", like Heroes did...
ReplyDeleteBrace yourself, for this is definitely the last season of Fringe. Reconcile with it. Make peace already. When it will get officially cancelled, the pain will be easier to swallow. Peter is in his universe, Olivia is his. Everything is just fine. We had four wonderful seasons. Many good shows didn't even manage to last that long.
ReplyDelete0.6 it is,unfortunately...
ReplyDeletehttp://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/03/24/tv-ratings-friday-blame-hunger-games-supernatural-fringe-fall-to-new-lows-nikita-inches-higher-cbs-wins-with-ncaa-basketball/125856/
Supernatural 0.6... Be right back, going to cry now...
ReplyDeleteThank you... Yeah, I saw it... I'm rocking back and forth in the corner, hoping it'll be adjusted up in the finals...
ReplyDelete0.5 in one half hour could be adjusted down to 0.5 total
ReplyDeleteMan, this week has been very bad for genre serialized shows.
ReplyDelete0.6....Really!?Why?
ReplyDeleteWhen do the final numbers come out?I'm not watching The Hunger Games until I see at least a 0.7 for Supernatural!
No man it's always been a 5 year plan!
ReplyDeleteLet's pray for an adjustment on Monday for SPN ...
ReplyDeleteFOX decided to say goodbuy to FRINGE the day they moved the show on Fridays. Really Bad Choice considering the VCR ratings (which indicate that people can't watch live but still watch the show afterwards). If you really want to save this amazing show US viewers really need to watch it Live. Only few things can be done by the rest of us, and last night's twitter trend #WereYouBelong was a success worldwide. I still hope and I have repeatedly argued tha Warner Bros will realize the great impact this show has worldwide and will decide to take it to the next level and that is... a movie.
ReplyDeleteGrimm gets more viewers but a lower rating.
ReplyDeleteSystem makes perfect sense xD
Another significant factor was probably summer-like temperatures in a good chunk of the U.S. this week. When it warms up, a lot of people go out on Friday nights rather than stay home.
ReplyDeleteWow that was a horrible rated evening, even for a friday. Sucks for Fringe and Supernatural but I doubt supernatural is in any trouble for renewal.
ReplyDeleteI'm positive Fringe will climb back up as it airs it's 7 remaining episodes without interuption. As long as is back up to a 1.2 within 2/3 weeks. I'm still in denial :p Kitchen Nightmare also dropped bigtime, like .5 of their normal rating.. let's see if it picks up coming weeks! I doubt they will announce renewal or cancellation updates on fringe before May anyway
Mana the Secret Circle got better demo numbers this week than Nikita and Supernatural.
ReplyDeleteNotice In both overall and demo Supernatural Is just one point ahead of Nikita
Demo-Nikita 0.5 Supernatural 0.6
Overall-Nikita 1.56 Supernatural 1.57
Like they always say half hours don't mean adjustments.
ReplyDeleteI really hope it won't be adjusted down. :(
They come only on Monday evening.
ReplyDeleteI'll wait till Monday then...Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI'm not worried though.It sucks because the episode was really good,but I'm still 100% sure that there will be another season.
The problem is that The Secret Circle is very lead-in dependent, kind of like how Nikita was last year. If the CW chooses to put a new show in that slot next year, it will probably drop.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your positivism, I'm really needing that now. I'm scared. :(
ReplyDeleteIf the Secret Circle Is put Into the friday night slot In fall It Is going to drop heavily.Nikita has an audence loyal that has stuck with It.It really hasn't moved from 0.5 In demo all season.The Secret Circle Isn't likely to do any better than Nikita as leadin to Supernatural.When renewal time comes It will probally be between Nikita and Secret CIrcle for the first hour on Friday.
ReplyDeleteMy concern for next season Is they bring back Nikita.
Fox have 7 times chance to move fringe back to Thursday and understand thatFriday is the only problem!
ReplyDeleteVery worried for Fringe :( I know, Hunger Games, but still.
ReplyDeleteBut I had to laugh a bit at Supenatural. Everyone was saying how so many Cas fans who left when he did, would come flooding back in with his return. Well, apparently not, or he doesn't make that much of a ratings impact as people thought.
No, it was a 7 year plan
ReplyDeleteI hate so badly those Nielson box who decided tohe fate of our shows....if a show lose like...I don't know...20, for a night, they said we lost X hundred of thousand of viewers -_- We don't need to really have thousands of viewers to go watch the game or the movie to make the Nielson viewers fall badly, so we just never know if/how it can affect. Its annoying
ReplyDeleteI know I'm so tired of hearing that. The ratings don't seem to indicate that at all. His absence had no effect on the ratings at all and now he comes back and we see a series low. Makes you wonder. I'm dying to see them prove that statement. The big drop in ratings actually occurred in season 6- a VERY Cas centric season- started off at about 2.8 million and the finale dropped to around 2 million.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion,Cas' presence doesn't affect the ratings,in a bad or a good way.It's true that he has a large fanbase,but the majority watches the show whether he's in it or not..
ReplyDeleteSo,it wasn't because of Cas that the premiere had higher numbers,it wasn't because of Cas that this episode had lower numbers and it definitely wasn't because of Cas that the ratings dropped in season 6.The show(and every single show out there) drops every year...
What did you people expect after a month hiatus? The ratings are already low, this doesn't bother me much. Fox knows Fringe has around 6 million viewers here in the US. DVR numbers will push Fringe up big time.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention everything was down tonight on Fox...Fox wont single out Fringe, they will look at the night as a whole.
ReplyDeleteOn more than one front. Everyone's going for a blackout with fan excuse bingo this weekend. Sucks all the way around.
ReplyDeleteFringe was the only serialized drama tonight, the other one is just a reality show, but you're right, Fox isn't exactly doing so well with their serialized dramas.
ReplyDeleteWell this is atrocious news. Fringe won't survive at this level and Supernatural got hit much harder than Nikita, making this a series low. Here's hoping there are major demo adjustments up on Monday. A 0.9 and 0.6 cannot be the finals.
ReplyDelete* O dear... I can see it even without my glasses... 0.9?????
ReplyDeleteO_o
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Yesterday was a big holiday, World Meteorological Day. Everyone was out celebrating.
ReplyDeleteNext week is a triple holiday: Doctor's Day, Spiritual Baptist Liberation Shouter Day, and Birthday of Sultan of Kelantan.
ReplyDeleteThese will definitely account for any drops in Fringe's ratings.
I saw this headline earlier and it took me like 3 hours to even click the link and read everyone else's response. I am hoping though that Hunger Games and Basketball might play a role here and that next week we are more normal...
ReplyDeleteHow could this even happen? Everyone's been so excited about it coming back. Well, we were, anyway.
ReplyDeleteOh God, not fan excuse bingo.
ReplyDeleteStay the **** away from TVBTN Dahne! Or you'll end up a cynical drone!
Actually I think there were 8 years...
ReplyDeleteO_O
Is it really a series low? I could have sworn Supernatural got a .5 at one point, at least initially.
ReplyDeleteI think the big drop off in season 6 was about the change in tone of the series - the noir influence, soulless Sammy, and the lack of brotherly bond in the first half. No one even knew the season would center around Cas until the final few episodes.
ReplyDeleteI do not know why this has hit me so hard,but it has and i just haven't been able to let it go .I've been bummed out before but i must say this is an all time low....Topping it off my husband wonders why after spending so much of my time here i am not in the top 100.Now what do i tell him?
ReplyDeleteSupernatural just lost the "2nd of the network" to The Secret Circle this week, they got a 0.7/1.74!
ReplyDeleteNormally I’d be tearing my hair out over this, but I’m only mildly displeased. Though basketball and The Hunger Games were certainly a large factor, this episode was terrible and the ratings reflect this. If they keep pumping out this garbage, I’m not sure I even want another season.
ReplyDeleteSPN got a 0,6 once, but got ajusted at 0,7, if I remember correctly
ReplyDeleteI'm not watching Fringe, so I can't tell you if the episode was good or not, but quality of the episodes aren't affecting that much the episodes. If an episode, of any serie, is great, you need to watch it to know it, but if you decided to go away you won't know and won't be counted in the live ratings
ReplyDeleteSame for a bad episode, if you stay home a friday night to watch your show, chances are you'll at least watch 'til the end.
Its more the quality of the episode of the week before that has more chances to affect the ratings than the quality of the episode of the night
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ReplyDeleteKeep hoping people.
ReplyDeleteActually One Tree Hill will take that label this week just like it did last week. OTH got a 0.8 in demo this week and last. I still expect that SPN will adjust up to a 0.7 in the finals, effectively tying 90210 and Secret Circle. However, I doubt that its overall numbers will be higher than TSC so that would make SPN 4th this week. Last week it was 3rd by tying TSC in demo but having higher overall numbers. Of course total viewers doesn't mean anything in the real scheme of things anyway.
ReplyDeleteNot according to my spreadsheet but I could be wrong. There were sometimes I had to back track but I think I would remember if SPN adjusted up 2 tenths instead of one. That would have been major news for me.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! Fringe had 0.9 in both half hours so obviously those who watched it watched until the end. Now if the ratings fall next week, you may be able to blame a bad episode the previous week but I doubt enough people knew it would be a "bad" episode in advance to change the ratings for it last night. (Not that I know if it was bad or not because I still haven't gotten to view it. Hate having to look for a link now that Cuevana was shut down.) You just have to look at Supernatural's ratings to see that quality of an episode has no effect on its ratings. The highest rated episode of SPN was Route 666, and I have yet to see someone put that episode in their top 10 but it sure made quite a few people's 10 worst list including mine.
ReplyDeleteTotal viewers does mean something, just not as much as the demo.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Fringies. That really sucks. :(
ReplyDeleteAs for Supernatural... *cower* It's lower than normal! I thought we were going to stay steady at .07! *weeps in the corner* Oh, CW, please please don't cancel my beloved show!
I do have to say though... It looks like all the shameless, excessive promoting of Castiel didn't do that much good.
after seeing that kiss in the streets i come across this? sad day.
ReplyDeleteYep, SPN received an 0.6 in the prelims for 7.12 Time After Time, an episode that was also heavily promoted and very favorably advance reviewed and it was adjusted up in the finals but without any increase in viewers.
ReplyDeleteIA. it was just shy of 80 degrees here and very pleasant weather. If I could have gone "out" I wouldn't sitting at home watching TV either.
ReplyDeleteI do realize that and I'm not speaking for ZoeF but on some fan sites the belief is that "Sera" ruined the show when Cas died ignobly and (so the ratings dropped ;) ) and "that will teach the showrunners a lesson" and then they said the ratings would rise when "Cas came back" and that would teach the showrunners another lesson, and that was never to mess with the Dean-Cas bond.
ReplyDelete*Of course, its all BS* and you all are correct and the drop or rise in the ratings has nothing to do with "Cas" being in the episode or not.
*What is humorous*, and I think that's what ZoeF meant is a portion of the MC/Cas-online fandom making loud claims that demoting MC to a guest star rather than regular hurt the ratings badly and that the ratings would improve when MC rejoined the show for 3 or more episodes.
Akk!!! tariqq :) Bite your tongue... don't even think about that (lol lol lol)
ReplyDeleteI *think* both Fringe and SPN share similar proportions of male viewers in all adult age ranges, and those males are more likely to watch basketball "live" and DVR their second choice show. Since basketball is not confined to just CBS but air other games on (non-network) cable stations maybe their DVRs are recording those games and Fringe and SPN with both perform well in the L+3's or the L+7's.
ReplyDeleteSIGH. Oh well. I wasn't expecting anything awesome. Still stings though.
ReplyDeleteThat was cute Baff,first time i laughed all day!
ReplyDeleteLOL Now Baff,don't go pushing your luck!
ReplyDeleteThat's a good question Tom.......
ReplyDeleteI guess Harry's Law will show whether total viewers means anything on a failing network. It's really not fair to compare the CW with networks like CBS when it comes to future plans.
ReplyDeleteSeriously... TWO HUGE NCAA games affected these #s significantly! Is Fringe looking good? Not exactly... but yesterday is not much of an indicator and Executives know this.
ReplyDeleteSomeday I want to meet someone with a Nielson box and just yell at them for having really sucky taste in TV.
ReplyDeletePS. Dear Cops, I've never met anyone with a Nielson box, so that hit and run was totally some other Firefly fan.
I think the B-ball games had a big impact. Top notch play and it's not worth DVRing live sports. IMHO I wouldn't read too much into it.
ReplyDelete"Sera" took over and immediately gave us unrecognizable Sam and no direction. Instead of convincing fans she had a handle on the series it felt like she had no idea who the main characters were. It didn't inspire loyalty, and that had nothing to do with the Cas storyline.
ReplyDeleteterra nova is canceled :(
ReplyDelete0.6 ZERO POINT SIXARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEand here I am yelling... though last night I was out watching the Hunger Game :S oups
ReplyDeleteKinda lost interest in season 7, feels like everything in s6 was for nothing, loved last night. I'm gonna buy the dvd it pay attention while watching so maybe it will be better cause so far I liked the first 5-6 eps. and like a random one somewhere. ~ Pretty sure I'll love every scene with Misha ahah I just really love Castiel okay
Imagine if that day would have been a great seaosn 1 episode. *sigh*
ReplyDeletei sure as hell hope they bring back nikita!
ReplyDeleteOUCH! That hit me very hard yesterday. A 0.9 for Fringe. :( But then I realized:
ReplyDeleteThere is hope left!
If you look at Fringe's lead-in, "The Kitchen Nightmares" it only got a 1.0 - and it usually is 0.2-0.3 better than Fringe, right?
And who knows what the final ratings will be - could be a 1.0 which would be a lot better. :)
For myself - I won't give up until Fox cancels it.
So I will hope for next week. As I always do.
That's exactly what I meant so you did speak for me there lol. And I think the fortunes of the show rise and fall with the brother's bond and how well it's portrayed.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I can't believe. With Cas's return, Luci and Meg...
ReplyDeleteI know. I consider it to be the biggest fail on Kripke and the WB's part for the whole series. After all, Asylum, Scarecrow, and Faith all came right before Route 666. If they had extended the hiatus by one week, all those lovely viewers would have seen Faith instead of Route 666. Who knows how many people would have been hooked into SPN then instead of seeing one of the worst episodes of them all.
ReplyDeleteI would have been Faith! omg that ep was so good :D tsktsk
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