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POLL: What did you think of Sherlock - The Hounds of Baskerville?

Jan 8, 2012

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23 comments:

  1. pheralJanuary 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    It was alright - although both me and my friend watching guessed what was going on very early, and then also guessed how it was administered way before the main characters too, so that was a bit of a let down.

    It was entertaining, thingamajig from Being Human did very well i thought.

    I'm guessing they took some of their inspiration from the Hounds and some from The Devil's Foot, for this one.

    I like the hint at the end about Moriarty!

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  2. LouJanuary 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    Very fun (and funny) episode, Russell Tovey does distressed so well and I loved Sherlock trying to make it up to John for being an idiot.  The ending was super creepy.

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  3. DarqueModeJanuary 9, 2012 at 3:11 AM

    I like that there was a "good" option! It was not great but it wad definitely better than "OK" so good it is!

    I quite enjoyed it. I don't think it was nearly as intense as the last episode. Maybe because I figured out in the first half of the episode it was some hallucinogen or maybe just the lack of life or death nature seeing as this was obviously not a real "HOUND" from the beginning. 

    There was a lot of humor this time around though and I think that made up for the lack of tension. I quite liked Sherlock spiking Watson's tea (coffee?) with Henry's sugar and trapping him in the lab! XD 

    I keep waiting for Sherlock to pat someone on the back and say "There, there" ot start singing "Soft Kittie" XD Each episode he reminds me more and more of Sheldon from TBBT. Still his own unique character but more and more in common with Sheldon as the series goes on...

    Russell Tovey certainly plays manic and panic very well, so this role was perfect for him!

    It was so odd to see the bombastic mountain of a man that is Greajohn Umber from Game of Thrones portraying a quite jovial scientist! XD

    All in all a very nice episode that was just a step below last week's episode for me. I guess playing against your nemesis always brings out your "A-game"....

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  4. DarqueModeJanuary 9, 2012 at 3:20 AM

    I caught on to the drug too, although the fog took me a bit longer to figure out. It did not ruin the episode for me though since I really enjoyed the humor in the episode. More humor than normal I thought and I appreciated it!

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  5. Annie B.V.January 9, 2012 at 3:26 AM

    Loved it, again.  I'll definitely need a re-watch on this one to firm up an oppion, but my first impression was that this was fun, funny, properly frightening in all the right places, and something I'll look forward to enjoying again and again.  It didn't have quite the level of concentrated "cleverness" we saw last week, but all the pieces worked together for a really nice adaptation of one of the best of the Holmes stories, and I actually appreciated that this week the pacing of the story left me a bit of time to breathe!  
    Now I'm only sad that there's just one more before the next long, long wait...

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  6. DarqueModeJanuary 9, 2012 at 3:35 AM

    This next wait could be VERY long indeed!
    Sigh....

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  7. andy sJanuary 9, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Sheldon?!? What does Sheldon have to do with Sherlock (aside from the first three letters in a name)? All Sheldon does is pout, whine and supposedly does brilliant work that never pans out. He is OCD, has fear of birds (I hate myself for watching that episode, what a bloody waste). Sherlock doesn't have any of that characteristics. If you are referring to the lack of empathy, that is also not the similarity. Sherlock is motivated by puzzles, doesn't have time to care to deep down he does (we saw it last week and this week), and in that he is more alike to House (which is more reasonable comparison since they both were developed, quite closely, to be like Sherlock Holmes from the books. And, while House is the answer to the question: What if such a person was a doctor?', Sherlock is the answer to the question: 'What if such a character was our contemporary?'. As a big fan of the books and stories, and as someone who probably watched every televised and filmed incarnation of the books, I can say that this is one of the best Sherlocks there is. Jeremy Brett was fantastic, but a bit too theatrical. B.C. does stay more faithful to the book, while also having a sense of grandeur, which, for example wasn't present in my other favorite Holmes, who was played by-the-numbers by Basil Rathbone. On the other hand, Sheldon is an answer to the question: 'How can we make a character with the most trite and overdone condition on TV - OCD (put to much better use in Monk) - and milk it for ten seasons?'. Sheldon is a gimmick, Sherlock is a character, similarities stop at first three letters of their names.

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  8. Justine KubicaJanuary 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Loved it! It was brilliant! Very well written and I was so impressed while watching the scene, where Sherlock tells Watson that he saw the hound. Fantastic acting! And the ending was both confusing and very creepy.

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  9. DarqueModeJanuary 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Sensitive about Sherlock eh? XD

    I love Benedict as Sherlock and think he is my second favorite behind Basil Rathbone's 1940's series of Sherlock movies. Basil is the definitive Holmes for me I guess, but Cumberbatch is the perfect modernized version.

    In the two episodes this year ther has been a number of actions or aspects that were very similar to Sheldon.

    First Sherlock using the "average" Watson to test his theory since he needed someone of lesser intellect than himself in his experiment. Sheldon has done the same thing numerous times on TBBT.

    Jon mentions Sherlock's Asperger's Syndrome which is another thing mentioned multiple times on TBBT.

    Both have no idea about social norms and consider themselves to be above such trivial things.

    Both are shown to be rather (if not completely) asexual with little to no interest in sex. Although Sherlock is not nonplussed by it like Sheldon.

    Both always think they are the smartest person in the room and have hard time admitting if they are wrong. 

    Both are incredibly condescending and feel superior.

    Do I find Sherlock (especially in the books) a more complex character than Sheldon? Of course, but to deny that they have similar traits is just silly. A mystery detective, if not THE mystery detective of all time, is going to be more nuanced and detailed compared to a sitcom character. That goes without saying.. at least so I thought. 

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  10. andy sJanuary 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Yeah, I guess you could say I am. I never even liked comparing Holmes to Poirot, let alone this. Of course, complexity is undisputed, I didn't even think that you would equate the two, but I just wasn't sure what similarities you thought of. I get it now, you were talking about more of behavioral similarities. Without qualifying, I assumed you hinted at structural, overall similarities, thus the reply. I actually agree on some of the points. But I wouldn't say that, for example, testing 'inferior' minds makes them similar..it just makes one particular action of theirs similar. Watson is wrong to suggest Asperger's. Unlike Sheldon, Sherlock doesn't exhibit any of the usual mannerisms. Quite the contrary. The seeming maladjustment in social situations comes form one thing they have in common, and you are right to point it out - and that is feeling superior. However, whereas Sheldon is not always right in thinking it, and is threatened by any evidence to the contrary, Holmes embraces challenges, he wants to compete, not to pout at the hint of an equal mind (e.g. Adler, Moriarty), and that's a big behavioral difference. As for condescension, on that I, of course agree. However, Sheldon's condescending is more unfiltered, aimed towards everybody. Holmes gives respect where it's due. Finally, the asexuality stems from different sources in the two, though it exhibits the similar way. Sheldon is afraid of it, Holmes is uninspired by it. To make a final comparison using the metaphor from today's episode, Holmes' mind is like an engine, and that engine is fueled by puzzles, nor by sentiment or affection. Sheldon's mind is more like a hay shed, threatened by almost everything. What that results in is Homes embracing the world and its challenges and people in it and what they do (of course, in so far as it provides challenges), Sheldon hides from it, and is set in his ways even for the most trivial things (like sitting in the same spot, having set rituals). Thus, Sheldon wastes his time being afraid, playing video games and reading comics, writing roommate agreements and whatnot. Holmes would find it an incredible waste of intellect (in fact, his ideas about why it's not important to know why the Earth revolves around the Sun go exactly in the face of what Sheldon considers important),

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  11. JuliaJanuary 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    I loved this episode. It was a little easy to figure out, but that doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the episode.

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  12. numer0sixJanuary 9, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Solid episode but not as good as "a scandal in Belgravia".
    Still very enjoyable though.
    The last scene is very promising for next week. Moriarty seems totally obsessed by Sherlock and why does Mycroft let him go?
    I
    "I see.
    No, you don't.
    No, I don't.
    Sentiment? Sentiment."

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  13. Adam D. HarrisJanuary 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    Loved it once again. The out of London stuff, as Lastrade said, was a nice change of setting!

    Also, why did the characters hear another growl after they had killed the "hound" as that small element didn't make much sense to me. They seemed to have gotten over the fear by that point, and felt like it seemed a good way to let the scientist escape!

    When Watson went into that weird room, I noticed the leaking pipes and so had it had confirmed my theory on a hallucinogenic that I'd had throughout the episode. I thought the hollow looked a little too foggy... :P

    I also felt that Clive Mantle's character seemed too shady throughout to be anything good :P

     

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  14. DarqueModeJanuary 10, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    We all have our protective streaks so no offense meant!

    I could have stated it better last night but it was too early in the morning and my coffee maker died! I have not felt like myself all day...  XD

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  15. Adam D. HarrisJanuary 10, 2012 at 1:07 AM

    DarqueMode I bet you know the answer... I've watched the scene around 5 times now, and I am not happy with the second hound which they see after they shot the first one...

    Is it just them imagining another one? I need to get to sleep, but I'm having a Sherlock moment, and I can't sleep until I have an answer :P 

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  16. DarqueModeJanuary 10, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Ha! I hate when I obsess over something like that...

    The dog got up and ran across the screen. If you look closely right after Jon turns round in shock (after hearing the growl), you can see the shadow or silhouette of two pointy dog hears sticking up, part of the back of its head and a bit of its neck in shadow... it pops its head up , turns and exits stage right. XD  it's gone in a split second at the 1:23:16 mark.

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  17. Adam D. HarrisJanuary 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    Yeah... that makes sense! Certainly enough to allow me to sleep :P 

    Even though we all see Sherlock as a bit obsessive, it's times like this I realise I have the same need to know things that he does!!

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  18. lololee24January 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM

    I thought this episode was great, I just really enjoyed this episode from beginning to end. I also enjoyed seeing Russel Tovey (Being Human UK) on this episode. 2 down 1 more to go. This series despite being 90 minutes long isn't long enough, I think there should be at least one more episode, but then the show might not feel the same. Clearly they have a formula and it's working for the show, so I wouldn't won't to taint that by whining over adding another episode.

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  19. andy sJanuary 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Haha, no worries, same here :) Cheers

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  20. prpleightJanuary 11, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    I really liked it.  I had the big mystery figured out pretty quickly and that didn't bother me at all.  (Though my first guess at villain was the psychiatrist.)  I was a little surprised that the humor was turned up so much more than previous episode.   Loved that first visit into the facility just waiting to see how long it was going to take Mycroft to pull the plug.   I loved the character stuff.  (Almost no shows that I watch surprise me so the character stuff is primary.)  It was really nice seeing a relaxed Lestrade.  It felt like he was working with the guys rather than just being tolerated by them.

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  21. Annie B.V.January 11, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    I'm trying not to think about it!

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  22. tsavonglah08January 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    I agree with your rating. It was a good episode but still some levels lower than the 2 previous episodes.

    Figured it really out when Watson got locked into the lab. A bit too obvious solution but ok, I dunno what else they could have used as a reason for a Monsterhound.

    Thanks for confirming who played that forthcoming Doctor. His face looked familiar...the Greatjon...of course. :)

    The psychologists name, before we met her, I thought that Moriarty would be her. Good to see him at the end. Looks like he might have much to do in the last episode of this season.  

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  23. pheralJanuary 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Sorry, god, i am useless at replies. I suck!

    Anyway, to reply... i think some of my dissatisfaction with this series is just me, i'm going to rewatch in a few months time and i likely reckon i'll be more into it. I did love things like "and why are you suddenly calling him Greg??" "because it's his name!" and things, lol.

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