Thank God that Joe is gone! Interesting to learn the truth about Shelburne. And Danny is a really awesome person to help his ex-wife give birth like that. Not many people would do that.
Loved the episode! And aww at the Steve/Danny moment.
I don't think that Joe told Steve the truth because at the end a previous episode, Joe made a phone call and said,"we need to move you, steve is getting too close." Who was the person that have to move?
Well this episode was ok, all the episodes this year were ok except for 2 or 3, I'm quite disappointed of H50 this year, I hope the next one will be better with danny's ex partner seeking revenge. The writing is worse than last year. I'm really surprised that Shelbourne is an alias. There is no more chemistry between Steve/Danny I wish more of a Starsky and Hutch type of friendship, but that was one partnership that we will never see again. Also too many commercials not enough time. For me the show is ok not more not less. If we have this type of writing I think that next year the show will be cancelled, and we don't see enough of Danny, kono, chin.l don't know what you guys think.
I liked Joe and I am going to miss him. I think he will be back though, because of the fact that Wo Fat will have to go after him. I enjoyed the episode and I liked seeing San Ming again. He and Kamekona were very funny together.
I thought the ep was awesome, except for the BLATANT product placement! We will definitely see Joe again, I feel he was lying to Steve just to get him to drop it. Overall great episode.
Gave this one a great, liked the little bit of flashback (even though young Steve didn't resemble older to me) and that we at least found out who Shelburne is, but I keep thinking that there's got to be more to it than what Joe is letting on. I liked the Joe character, but they didn't develop him enough even to the reveal and don't mind that he's gone for now as all the Joe stuff was getting too distracting.Decent funny bits with Sang Min and Kamekona, although the Subway commercial was spread on a bit too thick, but realize that without them and Chevrolet, doing this show would be a heck of a lot harder to do.
In this episode it was the father they called, I'm talking about a previous episode a few weeks ago. Joe had called someone and told them that they would have to move them because steve was getting too close. Which make me believe that Joe wasn't telling the truth last night to Steve.
Pretty middle of the road ep, in my opinion. I don't think Shelburne is what Joe says it is - that cryptic phone call he made several eps ago, when he spoke to some unknown person and said that Steve was "getting too close" (or something like that) and they would have to move. I think there's more to the story. I sort of suspect that Shelburne is Steve's mother, and that her death was faked. But who knows.
Also, product placement in shows and movies is a huge pet peeve of mine - you can't get away from ads even IN the shows, now, and the commercialism is getting sort of sickening. I realize that's just how the business works now, and that they HAVE to do it to some degree, but that awkward, annoying Subway placement was WAY over the top - It's one thing to purposefully focus the shot on a car's brand logo, or even mention off-handedly that the car has GPS or the phone takes great photos (annoying as even THAT is...) it's another to have a 60 second long awkwardly staged conversation about the freakin' sandwiches. It just went ON and ON. I was honestly saying "Seriously? Still?" out loud as it continued. It was so obviously staged and off-subject that it totally drew me out of the story and broke up the continuity of the show. Visual product placement is annoying but at least can be tuned out somewhat - jamming an off-subject advertisement into the dialog and taking up half a scene with it is just WRONG. Ugh.
Pretty middle of the road ep, in my opinion. I don't think Shelburne is what Joe says it is - that cryptic phone call he made several eps ago, when he spoke to some unknown person and said that Steve was "getting too close" (or something like that) and they would have to move. I think there's more to the story. I sort of suspect that Shelburne is Steve's mother, and that her death was faked. But who knows. Also, product placement in shows and movies is a huge pet peeve of mine - you can't get away from ads even IN the shows, now, and the commercialism is getting sort of sickening. I realize that's just how the business works now, and that they HAVE to do it to some degree, but that awkward, annoying Subway placement was WAY over the top - It's one thing to purposefully focus the shot on a car's brand logo, or even mention off-handedly that the car has GPS or the phone takes great photos (annoying as even THAT is...) it's another to have a 60 second long awkwardly staged conversation about the freakin' sandwiches. It just went ON and ON. I was honestly saying "Seriously? Still?" out loud as it continued. It was so obviously staged and off-subject that it totally drew me out of the story and broke up the continuity of the show. Visual product placement is annoying but at least can be tuned out somewhat - jamming an off-subject advertisement into the dialog and taking up half a scene with it is just WRONG. Ugh.
We finally learn what Shelburne is, though I doubt that it was the truth. Seems that Joe White will be missing for a while, I hope he comes back to wrap up that story line.
It is apparent that Danny and his ex-wife still have a connection. Danny is a great guy, despite his annoying constant chatter when when Steve.
The Subway commercial was way too long and awkward. Hope they got paid extra for it
I thought it was a pretty good episode,but there is no way Joe is telling Steve the truth about Shelburne,That explanation he gave Steve was a bunch of bull,i couldn't believe Steve bought that,but maybe he didn't not completely,i hope not that was just to pat. I think Joe will be back,but i don't think this season.I think it will happen will they get Wo Fat and thats when i think Steve finds his mother alive.
Yes, that's the same ep I'm referring to. I thought the person he was talking to was the father. My interpretation was that, as Joe explained last night, he helped the guy fake his death and when MacGarrett got too close they moved him to a different hiding place. Then when things came to a head, Joe contacted him at the new hiding place so he could talk to his son.
The only problem with that is when Joe made the call and said that we have to move you, because steve is getting too close...the father was in the trunk tied up and had duct tape over his mouth...so, Joe couldn't have called the father at that time....
huh. I completely missed the guy in the trunk. :-) But, now that you've clarified...could that possibly tie into the theory that Joe was completely lying about shelburne?
The whole Shelburne thing is confusing. I figured that it was a protection thing it was all said althroughout the season. But the way Joe mentioned it looks like it sounds like more than 1 person.
Well if you looked when Joe was dialing the number to Hiro he did type in 0011 or 1100 that's an international call he was making so we know that Hiro is definitely in Japan that explains the reason why Joe has been there a lot recently.
LOL it's funny we had that Subway mention already last week on Chuck hopefully maybe Subway can get Five-0 when Chuck finishes.
Soooo good to see Sang Ming back I couldn't stop laughing with him and Kamekona. I was hoping Sang Ming would go crazy and reveal that he's mullet is actually not real because he's hair is not like that in real life.
All in all a good episode I was hoping it would be 2 stories in 1 episode again but sadly it wasn't but the ending with Steve & Joe has made me angry because I have no freaking idea what Joe was saying
I thought some people wouldn't be very happy that Rachel named her baby's middle name after her previous marriage surname as William since Danny's surname is Williams. But I love the name I thought it wouldv'e been Hawaiian but old English style love it!
Talking about Product Placement Nintendo was also featured with Grace playing a Nintendo 3DS when was Rahel was showing signs of trouble. I have that exact same console very popular at the moment as well
I think you are getting confused with this week's episode and a previous episode. In a previous episode, Joe kidnapped the father of yakuza (spelling), then called Steve. When Steve arrived Joe opened the trunk and showed the father, bound with duct tape on his mouth. Joe removed the duct tape and the father told Steve that shelbourne was a person. Someone that Wo Fat feared. Joe then shut the trunk. Got in the car and left. He then got on the phone and said that they had to move you because steve was getting too close. In this week's episode, Joe called the father so he could let his son know that he was alive. I think Joe is lying about shelbourne because of the first phone call in the previous episode. Have I clarified my thoughts now?
I thought this one was ok. It didn't quite meet my expectations. Especially with Shelburne. I was expecting that to be some big twist or something and it was very anti-climatic. I think Joe was either totally lying or at least partially lying to Steve because like many other people have said, if that is the truth about Shelburne, then that phone call Joe made at the end of the episode a few weeks ago doesn't really make sense. I think there's definitely more to the story than what Joe told Steve in that scene. Oh, and there wasn't any big news shocker that rocked Steve to his core like the synopsis said there was.
Yes. I think Shelbourne is an actual person - instead of just someone made up as Joe told Steve. I think that Joe told Steve that to protect him (Steve) and the person who is actually shelbourne. I also think that Joe may have been lying about Him (Joe) killing Wo Fat's father. We'll see.
I put it down as a great episode - not awesome, and not just okay. I saw a lot of S1 vibes brought back in this ep, and it was way more light-hearted than I was expecting. I WAS let down with the Shelburne reveal, but really - what was I expecting? Mom or Dad McG to pop up alive and well and admit to being Shelburne? We got ourselves all hyped up for the "big reveal" so we basically are to blame if we're disappointed. Kamekona and Sang Min totally rocked this ep. No problems with Danny assisting Rachel in the delivery room. He told her he had fun, for Pete's sake!
So, although it wasn't a nail-biting, action-packed, emotional whirlwind of an episode, it was a good, solid enjoyable hour of entertainment for me.
I voted okay only because they're finally putting a pin in the Joe / Shelburne story for a while. Otherwise, I would have voted poor.
- After all the intrigue and the endless references, Shelburne doesn't even exist. Bravo. *slow clap* - I'm starting to think Danny is suffering from a few esteem issues. I can't believe he's still pining for a family with the woman who left him twice already. Danny's ex is emotional poison. - Steve basically made an alliance with the Yakuza in this episode. That's even shadier than stealing from the evidence lockup.
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Thank God that Joe is gone! Interesting to learn the truth about Shelburne. And Danny is a really awesome person to help his ex-wife give birth like that. Not many people would do that.
ReplyDeleteLoved the episode! And aww at the Steve/Danny moment.
I don't think that Joe told Steve the truth because at the end a previous episode, Joe made a phone call and said,"we need to move you, steve is getting too close." Who was the person that have to move?
ReplyDeleteWell this episode was ok, all the episodes this year were ok except for 2 or 3, I'm quite disappointed of H50 this year, I hope the next one will be better with danny's ex partner seeking revenge. The writing is worse than last year. I'm really surprised that Shelbourne is an alias. There is no more chemistry between Steve/Danny I wish more of a Starsky and Hutch type of friendship, but that was one partnership that we will never see again. Also too many commercials not enough time. For me the show is ok not more not less. If we have this type of writing I think that next year the show will be cancelled, and we don't see enough of Danny, kono, chin.l don't know what you guys think.
ReplyDeleteI liked Joe and I am going to miss him. I think he will be back though, because of the fact that Wo Fat will have to go after him. I enjoyed the episode and I liked seeing San Ming again. He and Kamekona were very funny together.
ReplyDeleteI thought the ep was awesome, except for the BLATANT product placement! We will definitely see Joe again, I feel he was lying to Steve just to get him to drop it. Overall great episode.
ReplyDeleteGave this one a great, liked the little bit of flashback (even though young Steve didn't resemble older to me) and that we at least found out who Shelburne is, but I keep thinking that there's got to be more to it than what Joe is letting on. I liked the Joe character, but they didn't develop him enough even to the reveal and don't mind that he's gone for now as all the Joe stuff was getting too distracting.Decent funny bits with Sang Min and Kamekona, although the Subway commercial was spread on a bit too thick, but realize that without them and Chevrolet, doing this show would be a heck of a lot harder to do.
ReplyDeleteJust saying, Peter Lenkov said that Joe would be back, and this Shelburne thing isnt gonna be over.
ReplyDeleteI thought that it was great :)
ReplyDeleteWell it's a given that when a character says they're off to celebrate their 25 wedding anniversary that they're not surviving the film. :-)
ReplyDeleteThere were huge parts of the first two acts that I didn't really hold my attention. (I was posting on spoiletv instead of focusing)
The Shelburne explanation felt like much ado about nothing.
I did like the Danny/Rachel thing...though good grief woman make up your mind. But, that's a stand up guy.
Liked the little under cover operation though...not much will get me to buy (gah! I'm blanking on his name) the shaved ice dude as a scary body guard.
I thought it was the guys father; the one they called.
ReplyDeleteIn this episode it was the father they called, I'm talking about a previous episode a few weeks ago. Joe had called someone and told them that they would have to move them because steve was getting too close. Which make me believe that Joe wasn't telling the truth last night to Steve.
ReplyDeletePretty middle of the road ep, in my opinion. I don't think Shelburne is what Joe says it is - that cryptic phone call he made several eps ago, when he spoke to some unknown person and said that Steve was "getting too close" (or something like that) and they would have to move. I think there's more to the story. I sort of suspect that Shelburne is Steve's mother, and that her death was faked. But who knows.
ReplyDeleteAlso, product placement in shows and movies is a huge pet peeve of mine - you can't get away from ads even IN the shows, now, and the commercialism is getting sort of sickening. I realize that's just how the business works now, and that they HAVE to do it to some degree, but that awkward, annoying Subway placement was WAY over the top - It's one thing to purposefully focus the shot on a car's brand logo, or even mention off-handedly that the car has GPS or the phone takes great photos (annoying as even THAT is...) it's another to have a 60 second long awkwardly staged conversation about the freakin' sandwiches. It just went ON and ON. I was honestly saying "Seriously? Still?" out loud as it continued. It was so obviously staged and off-subject that it totally drew me out of the story and broke up the continuity of the show. Visual product placement is annoying but at least can be tuned out somewhat - jamming an off-subject advertisement into the dialog and taking up half a scene with it is just WRONG. Ugh.
Pretty middle of the road ep, in my opinion. I don't think Shelburne is what Joe says it is - that cryptic phone call he made several eps ago, when he spoke to some unknown person and said that Steve was "getting too close" (or something like that) and they would have to move. I think there's more to the story. I sort of suspect that Shelburne is Steve's mother, and that her death was faked. But who knows.
ReplyDeleteAlso, product placement in shows and movies is a huge pet peeve of mine - you can't get away from ads even IN the shows, now, and the commercialism is getting sort of sickening. I realize that's just how the business works now, and that they HAVE to do it to some degree, but that awkward, annoying Subway placement was WAY over the top - It's one thing to purposefully focus the shot on a car's brand logo, or even mention off-handedly that the car has GPS or the phone takes great photos (annoying as even THAT is...) it's another to have a 60 second long awkwardly staged conversation about the freakin' sandwiches. It just went ON and ON. I was honestly saying "Seriously? Still?" out loud as it continued. It was so obviously staged and off-subject that it totally drew me out of the story and broke up the continuity of the show. Visual product placement is annoying but at least can be tuned out somewhat - jamming an off-subject advertisement into the dialog and taking up half a scene with it is just WRONG. Ugh.
We finally learn what Shelburne is, though I doubt that it was the truth. Seems that Joe White will be missing for a while, I hope he comes back to wrap up that story line.
ReplyDeleteIt is apparent that Danny and his ex-wife still have a connection. Danny is a great guy, despite his annoying constant chatter when when Steve.
The Subway commercial was way too long and awkward. Hope they got paid extra for it
loved it
ReplyDeleteYeah. I think I got whiplash from just how hard they hit the brakes to get to that product placement...
ReplyDeleteI thought it was a pretty good episode,but there is no way Joe is telling Steve the truth about Shelburne,That explanation he gave Steve was a bunch of bull,i couldn't believe Steve bought that,but maybe he didn't not completely,i hope not that was just to pat. I think Joe will be back,but i don't think this season.I think it will happen will they get Wo Fat and thats when i think Steve finds his mother alive.
ReplyDeleteYes, that's the same ep I'm referring to. I thought the person he was talking to was the father. My interpretation was that, as Joe explained last night, he helped the guy fake his death and when MacGarrett got too close they moved him to a different hiding place. Then when things came to a head, Joe contacted him at the new hiding place so he could talk to his son.
ReplyDeleteIt was an ok episode. Glad the Shelbourne thing is resolved. I liked Joe but the mystery was dragged out too long and it made Joe a little annoying.
ReplyDeleteAww at Danny helping Rachel.
The only problem with that is when Joe made the call and said that we have to move you, because steve is getting too close...the father was in the trunk tied up and had duct tape over his mouth...so, Joe couldn't have called the father at that time....
ReplyDeletehuh. I completely missed the guy in the trunk. :-) But, now that you've clarified...could that possibly tie into the theory that Joe was completely lying about shelburne?
ReplyDeleteThe whole Shelburne thing is confusing. I figured that it was a protection thing it was all said althroughout the season. But the way Joe mentioned it looks like it sounds like more than 1 person.
ReplyDeleteWell if you looked when Joe was dialing the number to Hiro he did type in 0011 or 1100 that's an international call he was making so we know that Hiro is definitely in Japan that explains the reason why Joe has been there a lot recently.
LOL it's funny we had that Subway mention already last week on Chuck hopefully maybe Subway can get Five-0 when Chuck finishes.
Soooo good to see Sang Ming back I couldn't stop laughing with him and Kamekona. I was hoping Sang Ming would go crazy and reveal that he's mullet is actually not real because he's hair is not like that in real life.
All in all a good episode I was hoping it would be 2 stories in 1 episode again but sadly it wasn't but the ending with Steve & Joe has made me angry because I have no freaking idea what Joe was saying
I thought some people wouldn't be very happy that Rachel named her baby's middle name after her previous marriage surname as William since Danny's surname is Williams. But I love the name I thought it wouldv'e been Hawaiian but old English style love it!
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ReplyDeleteTalking about Product Placement Nintendo was also featured with Grace playing a Nintendo 3DS when was Rahel was showing signs of trouble. I have that exact same console very popular at the moment as well
I think you are getting confused with this week's episode and a previous episode. In a previous episode, Joe kidnapped the father of yakuza (spelling), then called Steve. When Steve arrived Joe opened the trunk and showed the father, bound with duct tape on his mouth. Joe removed the duct tape and the father told Steve that shelbourne was a person. Someone that Wo Fat feared. Joe then shut the trunk. Got in the car and left. He then got on the phone and said that they had to move you because steve was getting too close. In this week's episode, Joe called the father so he could let his son know that he was alive. I think Joe is lying about shelbourne because of the first phone call in the previous episode. Have I clarified my thoughts now?
ReplyDeleteI thought this one was ok. It didn't quite meet my expectations. Especially with Shelburne. I was expecting that to be some big twist or something and it was very anti-climatic. I think Joe was either totally lying or at least partially lying to Steve because like many other people have said, if that is the truth about Shelburne, then that phone call Joe made at the end of the episode a few weeks ago doesn't really make sense. I think there's definitely more to the story than what Joe told Steve in that scene. Oh, and there wasn't any big news shocker that rocked Steve to his core like the synopsis said there was.
ReplyDelete:-D You clarified your thoughts and cleared my head. Got ya.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Joe was lying about being Shelburne?
Yes. I think Shelbourne is an actual person - instead of just someone made up as Joe told Steve. I think that Joe told Steve that to protect him (Steve) and the person who is actually shelbourne. I also think that Joe may have been lying about Him (Joe) killing Wo Fat's father. We'll see.
ReplyDeleteI put it down as a great episode - not awesome, and not just okay. I saw a lot of S1 vibes brought back in this ep, and it was way more light-hearted than I was expecting. I WAS let down with the Shelburne reveal, but really - what was I expecting? Mom or Dad McG to pop up alive and well and admit to being Shelburne? We got ourselves all hyped up for the "big reveal" so we basically are to blame if we're disappointed. Kamekona and Sang Min totally rocked this ep. No problems with Danny assisting Rachel in the delivery room. He told her he had fun, for Pete's sake!
ReplyDeleteSo, although it wasn't a nail-biting, action-packed, emotional whirlwind of an episode, it was a good, solid enjoyable hour of entertainment for me.
I voted okay only because they're finally putting a pin in the Joe / Shelburne story for a while. Otherwise, I would have voted poor.
ReplyDelete- After all the intrigue and the endless references, Shelburne doesn't even exist. Bravo. *slow clap*
- I'm starting to think Danny is suffering from a few esteem issues. I can't believe he's still pining for a family with the woman who left him twice already. Danny's ex is emotional poison.
- Steve basically made an alliance with the Yakuza in this episode. That's even shadier than stealing from the evidence lockup.