Brace yourself, fans of The Killing: It may be some time before you learn who killed Rosie Larsen.
In the January issue of Written By, a profile of The Killing creator Veena Sud ends with the sobering message that Rosie’s killer won’t be revealed until the end of season two. Sud is quoted as saying “this is not a committee thing” — an obvious reference to the legions of fans who were angry that Sud and her writing staff offered no resolution to the crime in the series’ first Emmy-nominated year.
“I wanted to tell The Killing with the rhythm and tones of everyday life, the hesitations, and the silences, and the not-knowing-what-to-say,” Sud tells Louise Farr in the magazine. “The messiness and unstructured way of people who I think sometimes we aren’t encouraged to do in TV. We are encouraged to connect the dots with straight lines, and not take detours or go off in tangents that are messy and nonlinear.”
Comments about the first season finale were so nasty, the article says, that Sud stopped looking on the internet. (Among those not-so-pleasant comments: “Would the series be better off with a man at the helm” and “Could Veena Sud be a Muslim with an agenda?”)
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“Our intent was not to mislead or betray,” said Sud, who is half-filipina and half-Indian. “We talked about the fans, and their passion, and all of the stuff that was being said on the internet. But the bottom line is, we close the door and we’re a bunch of people in the room, and our job was, and continues to be, to tell the story that feels right by us.”
Source: InsideTV@EW | WrittenBy
This makes me sad and honestly it makes me not want to watch Season 2.
ReplyDeleteVeena, this is not the message to send to any viewers who were disappointed and was debating whether or not to come back. I'd prefer that they just solve the murder and use their creative juices to go on to the expected larger consipiracy behind the killing... I do see that keeping the murderer til the end would validate keeping the family of Rosie Larsen around for another season.... this is disappointing, if true
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ReplyDeleteThe last time we spoke about this i said if it wasn't resolved quickly in season 2 i wouldn't watch..well i hope i get over this before season 2 starts or i will not watch...
ReplyDeleteWell I might watch the last episode of season 2 but that will probably be it. How stupid are the people running this show?
ReplyDeleteI wasn't even one of the ones overly disappointed by the finale and I can't believe they would string this out for that much longer. JFC.
ReplyDeleteWell Veena Sud, maybe you should have just kept this info to yourself because I think you just shot yourself in the foot.
ReplyDeleteThis is when Mystery-Myth writers take it too far, this is a classic example of putting all your creative eggs in one basket, one rotten egg basket.
I guess I won't be speeding home to catch this one this season. Maybe I'll catch it on demand....maybe.
I wonder if everyone/anyone here has actually read the article, which this "responsible" website failed to post a link to, but which it nonetheless freely quoted for its own purposes to tick people off and get comments. The real article was lengthy and very good, made me understand the show much better, and I have not been a Sud fan either.
ReplyDeleteBut this does now make me appreciate even more a show that exemplifies how quickly and impatiently people jump to judgment and onto bandwagons with partial knowledge.
What are you talking about? The link is right there at the bottom of the post as it always is. And yes I read the article, in fact I read it twice tonight on different blogs. Three times if we are counting the source link. Get over yourself.
ReplyDeleteI read it, very in depth and interesting article.
ReplyDeleteI personally (not this site) may be irresponsible for not actually posting a direct link to the source article for EW's story (although the source is mentions in the EW article). All the pertinent content to the point of EW's story and the reason I linked the post was pointed out as sourced from WrittenBy. Even now with that link added... nothing in my opinion is changed.
She wants it to be a slow simmer to show the characters and issues surrounding the case and not just connect the dots to solve the case. EW printed that part.
I even admire her wanting to add layers and context to the story of Rosie's murder. However that does not mean that I think the story should be spread over the course of two entire seasons. Even the original Danish program did not do that. On top of which AMC initially said that it was one case per season. They also commented about how the killer was changed from the original leading viewers to think that the killer would be exposed by season's end.
I enjoyed Sud's adaptation quite a bit. and have nothing but respect for her talents. That in no way is contradictory to not liking AMC misleading viewers and Sud drawing out one story over 2 seasons.
So I don't see how any bandwagon was jumped on (even with full knowledge of the situation). I don't like what she is doing even if I understand why she did it. The two are not mutually exclusive concepts.
The source was sited, just not directly linked.
ReplyDeleteRegardless. Rreading the lengthy article is not oing to change people's opinions about how long the series is dragging out exposing the murderer seeing as all the relevant information is included within the posted portion in the article.
Just too long a wait for me (who loved the danish version), so I´m not watching anymore. :-(
ReplyDeleteI'll just watch season 2 of the original.... by all accounts a superior production and I'm guaranteed a killer at the end of the season! XD
ReplyDeleteHmmm, I don't know what to think about all that. From the very beginning I thought it would be very possible that it could take 2 seasons to catch Rosie's killer, but after all the drama surrounding the finale of the first season I'm pretty sure that's not the best idea. Fans and critics are upset enough already and this might hurt the show severely. At this point I would be highly surprised if The Killing gets a 3rd season.
ReplyDeleteHowever I will definitely tune in, the murder mystery wasn't the most important thing for me on this show so far and as long as they keep the characters interesting and the acting keeps being superb, I hope I'll be able to enjoy it.
the murder mystery wasn't the most important thing for me on this show so far and as long as they keep the characters interesting and the acting keeps being superb, I hope I'll be able to enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteThank you! See I understand the complaints, but at the same time I kind of feel as though with such stellar acting in the Larson family and the nuanced feel of the show- I don't mind if it takes a little longer and we linger a little more in the complications of the murder as oppose to solving the mystery ASAP come next season.
Also, wasn't this kind of obvious given the cast article posted here last week? I feel like we already knew this....
I will be interested in the early Season 2 numbers now. As this news makes it to more sources and more people get it word of mouth I wonder how many will feel like we do? I would imagine a fair amount....
ReplyDeleteI was okay with them revealing the killer in the Season 2 premiere and it being part of a larger conspiracy that was the core of the Season 2 plot. I cannot recall another serialized show about a crime that did not solve that crime in one season. It's nonsensical frankly.
IF AMC had stated ahead of time that the crime was going to continue past Season 1 and it was a 2-year story I probably would not have watched Season 1 honestly. However, I would have been armed with that knowledge and made an informed decision.
Honestly I like a lot of the adapting Sud did from the Danish version, but if she knew it was going to take 26 episodes it should have been announced that way. The original series was not even that many episodes for the one story!
The irony here (one of a few sad ironies it seems) is that most reporters and critics wondered how Sud would adapt the 20-episode series into 13 episodes and most interviews - even with AMC itself - said some sub-plots would be removed to allow for the shorter season. As it turns out of course, AMC could have left everything in and added more for 6 additional episodes. Ludicrous!
It's one thing to keep info close to the vest, but it's something completely different to not inform your audience of your timeline since two years is a commitment. IT's shortsighted and frankly it's self-indulgent! What's the expression... Cutting off your nose to spite your face? I think it fits here.
Well they are really dragging that out.
ReplyDeleteWhen the original cast and crew ended up conceding that 20 episodes was too long for the first season aka Nana's murder (aka Rosie's murder), Ms. Sud should have taken the freakin' hint. 24 episodes is ridiculous for one case. And all this talk about telling their story their way...the show is a goddam adaptation (or ripoff if you've seen the original. I'm talking scene by scene carbon copy for the first 9-10 eps. Of 12. Yeah.)
ReplyDelete“I wanted to tell The Killing with the rhythm and tones of everyday life, the hesitations, and the silences, and the not-knowing-what-to-say,” Sud tells Louise Farr in the magazine. “The messiness and unstructured way of people who I think sometimes we aren’t encouraged to do in TV.
Maybe cause ppl do NOT wanna watch it? Cause it's pointless, un-dramatic and boring as shit?
Ugh, seriously. I wondered if them changing the ending would make it worth watching the show. Again.
Now it's clear that it is not.
it's simple, all the promotional material for The Killing said one thing: "who killed Rosie Larsen?". I did not expect the answer to be, "Wait for season 2 to find out.". It's not that complicated to understand that. It's pretty much similar to the misleading promotional material for The Event where they kept intriguing audiences with the question, 'What is the event?" only to end up not revealing it in the end.
ReplyDeleteThere is a link to the original article if you are patient enough to read the whole article. I read the whole thing and was not convinced of their decision to not reveal the killer. So, just cuz everyone was not as amazed and convinced about the decision to not reveal the killer in the end doesn't mean we have partial knowledge, it just means we have a different opinion.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, I added the link after that post. I had linked the EW article and not the original source for the EW article. Though the original story was always mentioned in the post, just not a direct link.
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ReplyDeleteI'm pissed because when this issue was first brought up after season one, the producers said that the mystery would be solved in the first third of the new season and they'd then move on to a new case.
ReplyDeleteIt boggles the mind that, after all the crap they had to endure from viewers and the media, they'd try to pull something like this.
Agreed.
ReplyDeleteYeah I was annoyed by last year's finale despite it being a great episode on its merit. Then I was appeased by the news that the killer would be shown in the first couple of episodes and lead to a larger conspiracy...Then they do an about face on it. Seriously? I do not take offense to not having input in how a series plays out. Quite to the contrary, I think creative teams should set their agenda and stick to it without any fan input. When you anger a majority of the audience nad then say something that appeases them... and then go the opposite direction it is just ridiculous in my opinion
Well said. It's the equivalent of a parent telling their kid something they don't really mean just to shut them up. It's disrespectful and insulting.
ReplyDeleteWell duh, they're not going to reveal the killer in the first episode and then have 12 episodes of nothing.
ReplyDeleteWow screw you guys. This show is great. Great performances and great writing are bringing me back not just the cliffhanger. The could wait even longer to reveal the killer and I'd still come back. This was what happened with Twin Peaks. I wish they could have stuck with their original plan and not ever revealed the killer.
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