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Grey's Anatomy - Season 8 - Callie spoilers about the AU episode

9 Jan 2012

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53 comments:

  1. klutzy_girl9 January 2012 at 21:02

    Callie/Owen should be interesting!

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  2. Courtney9 January 2012 at 21:03

    Ewwwwww. My poor bb girl with that abusive jerk?

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  3. Sarah9 January 2012 at 21:16

    haha nice!! :D

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  4. Abby9 January 2012 at 21:37

    OMG he is not abusive. You do a disservice to actual victims of abuse by misusing the word.

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  5. Chiara Bocci9 January 2012 at 21:44

    Callie and Owen?!? So strange!

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  6. Brouhaha9 January 2012 at 21:46

    Sorry to say that he is. A chief of surgery who intentionally harms a patient then threatens him is abusive. No excuse. He's a doctor. He is not above the law. It is irrelevant if he was having a bad day. It was illegal, violent, deeply unpleasant and an abuse of power. 

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  7. Bruce_F9 January 2012 at 22:00

    I'm with you on this one, Abby.

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  8. Bruce_F9 January 2012 at 22:01

    I feel the same way.  I'm not convinced that the show can bring these two together in a way that makes any sense.

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  9. Folie-lex9 January 2012 at 22:16

    Whoa! Kay.... that is interesting....

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  10. Brouhaha9 January 2012 at 22:22

    curious. The evidence is on the screen. He's violent, both consciously and unconsciously. So I'm very curious. 

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  11. Bruce_F9 January 2012 at 22:24

    What you see as evidence I see as merely your perception which I don't agree with.

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  12. Bob9 January 2012 at 22:29

    I'm interested now, which patient are we talking about here? 
    The only one I can think of is the one who was threatening Kepner, and to be honest, if another Doctor is in trouble I think's clearly justified.

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  13. spartigus159 January 2012 at 22:37

    wtf?! really cant wait to see how they ended up with that pairing. lol

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  14. PARAMORE BULGARIA9 January 2012 at 22:43

    interesting

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  15. Brouhaha9 January 2012 at 22:44

    He walked down a corridor telling his co-workers to book an OR for a broken jaw and possible concussion on a patient that he was intending to hit. It was not self defence. That was intent to cause bodily harm. That is a criminal offence. He could have justifiably sedated the patient. It is irrelevant that the patient was violent. However, the really deeply unpleasant completely unjustified abusive action he takes is later, in the patients room, grabbing his broken jaw, and threatening the patient is hypocritical, again illegal and an enormous abuse of power. That is not perception. They wrote it, they filmed it, I saw it. 

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  16. Brouhaha9 January 2012 at 22:46

    see comment below. He is not justified in threatening the patient and grabbing him on the jaw as he does later in the episode. 

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  17. Julia Albuquerque9 January 2012 at 23:16

    Now, if Callie is with Owen, who is Arizona with?

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  18. Sarah Cheung9 January 2012 at 23:17

    wow didnt see this coming, should be an interesting episode!!!

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  19. Bruce_F9 January 2012 at 23:28

    Violent and deeply unpleasant.  Very true.  Illegal?  You betcha.  Not self defense?  Also correct.  Was it irrelevant that the patient was violent?  From a legal standpoint, yes.  Was it irrelevant to the people he hurt or the others he probably would have hurt?  Absolutely not.

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  20. neon_ruby9 January 2012 at 23:44

    Whoa...how?!

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  21. Heather Davis9 January 2012 at 23:52

    Woah interesting, also wondering who Arizona may be with, maybe she's not a lesbian either and could be with Jackson, Alex or even Mark. 

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  22. Lissie_Bee9 January 2012 at 23:55

    Oh my gosh, that's crazy!  It should be interesting to see where they take it

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  23. Lissie_Bee9 January 2012 at 23:57

    It's been a long time since we met Arizona, so I could be forgetting, but it seemed like she was pretty established with who she was when we met her - she didn't want to get involved with Callie if it was just going to be some sort of experiment, which sounded like she'd dealt with a lot of that in the past.  So I think she'll still be a lesbian

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  24. Brouhaha10 January 2012 at 00:06

    The original argument was he's not abusive. I argue he is. Motivations and sentiment are irrelevant for that point. They are, of course, mitigating facts, I don't deny that, but they can't hide Owen's actions. 
    A man who can do what Owen did in the patients room, without remorse, is an abusive man. 

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  25. Bruce_F10 January 2012 at 00:09

    You call it abuse.  I call it vigilante justice.

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  26. Lyle Anderson10 January 2012 at 01:14

    Yeah I think the majority is against you so... Shut up,

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  27. laura334110 January 2012 at 01:23

    Wait...what Callie with Owen? Ummmmm nope can't see the two of them together....not even in this episode...

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  28. MeatyStakes10 January 2012 at 01:24

    OMG!! this ep is going to be a twist fest!!!

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  29. Daniel Alvarez10 January 2012 at 01:24

    HATE to wait till Feb :(

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  30. Brouhaha10 January 2012 at 01:30

    I agree. It is vigilante justice. No argument there. But again that is  sentimental justification for his actions. The act itself is abuse. So I end there. Apparently there are others below - not you - who don't like a bit of banter and argument. I do. I hope you do to. 

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  31. MeatyStakes10 January 2012 at 01:30

    Hells no, he is not abusive, maybe he's PTSD ridden, but not abusive. A great deal of his development has been how he has gotten help from his trauma :(

    He held Cristina's hand trough the abortion. He's no saint, but no one is in this show, and it makes me think we are not watching the same thing.

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  32. Brouhaha10 January 2012 at 01:30

    Huh?

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  33. MeatyStakes10 January 2012 at 01:33

    I agree, Arizona is a lesbian, and unless the episode changes intrinsical things about the characters instead of just the circumstances, I really doubt it.

    Callie has been pretty much been established as bisexual, or genderblind.

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  34. Bruce_F10 January 2012 at 01:46

    Brouhaha, it's not a sentimental justification.  It's the exact fit of two definitions of vigilante -

    noun
    2. any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.

    adjective 3. done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.(also:  Yes, it's unfortunate that some people take a civil discussion to such an ugly place.)

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  35. Jennifer Renee Beatley10 January 2012 at 02:21

    Eww. Don't like that idea

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  36. Courtney10 January 2012 at 02:49

    Vigilante justice is also abuse and completely unacceptable from a doctor in a hospital.

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  37. Courtney10 January 2012 at 02:52

    He violently attacked someone and then when he was told to apologize he actually HURT THE MAN FURTHER.


    But honestly, if I had a friend with a man like Owen I would be desperately scared for both her physical and emotional well-being, considering how controlling he is.

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  38. MeatyStakes10 January 2012 at 03:02

    I'm sorry, are we talking about the same man that threatened the safety of a room full of patients and staff, a man that mauled a man half his size, a man that was in complete berserk mode?

    Owen is a man of action, a man of war and even if what he did was "politically incorrect" that was damn the right thing to do. How else would you have expected him to neutralize a man in that set of mind, a man, that lets remember, was not the freshest apple in the bunch?

    Basically, the bastard deserved it.

    And you can't, can not possible call Owen controlling when he, after some heavy struggle, supported Christina in her decision. Call him short tempered, emotionally scarred and headstrong, but you cannot call him controlling.

    He has many faults and flaws, but don't demonize him.

    That's how I see it, and I'm sticking with my opinion, feel free to stick with yours, I won't hold it against you.

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  39. Taylor Edward10 January 2012 at 05:31

    lol

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  40. em gie10 January 2012 at 06:20

    omg, what about Cristina?! and Arizona?!
    oh, i can't wait.

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  41. Krystle Robinson10 January 2012 at 08:04

    Wierd. I wonder what the idea is behind this episode

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  42. Katherine10 January 2012 at 09:43

    I wouldn't be shocked if she was with Mark, but Owen? I didn't see that coming! This should be interesting...

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  43. Sasha Jones10 January 2012 at 10:44

    i think despite callie being with owen she still will be curious about girls. dr hann did happen, she probably wont have forgotten that, i bet she willl be secretly feeling repressed and secretly lusting after arizona or some other woman. -  i think this because the writers in Alt universe eps always try to not just make things different but also entertaining and still finely tethered to the shows reality.

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  44. Cathy10 January 2012 at 11:16

    I don't think they mean Callie ends up with Owen in the sense of being in a relationship or something. Maybe they end up together working on a trauma or getting in a big problem that includes them both. I don't know. At least I hope so

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  45. jini10 January 2012 at 16:47

    "He has many faults and flaws, but don't demonize him". Well said.
     I'm so with you on this one.
    Watching GA, you can say that doctors are not cold robots, right?
    Before being a doctor Owen is a man who struggles with his feelings. He can be violent sometimes because he's impulsive, as we all could be - dealing with heavy situations, but I really don't see him as abusive or manipulative. On the contrary manipulative men are more thoughtful to get control on people.
    Of course it's my own opinion. :-)

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  46. jini10 January 2012 at 16:49

    Thanks! But it will be so strange!

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  47. Daniel Alvarez10 January 2012 at 17:41

    how does burke fit into all of this??

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  48. Kim Fakkel10 January 2012 at 21:37

    Nooooo are they serious? Hahah that should be funny to watch but I have to say, didn't see this one coming..

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  49. spartigus1511 January 2012 at 02:06

    i love this thread ahhh my fav ppl comment. Bruce_F  i love that u broke out the dicyionary lmao

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  50. spartigus1511 January 2012 at 02:07

    isnt that the point of an AU episode for the pairings and the reality to be strange and the most absurd pairings.

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  51. Bruce_F11 January 2012 at 18:01

    Doesn't matter.  I just read in a spoiler column that the Callie / Owen relationship is described as "the largest mistake of both their lives."  Now, THAT makes sense.  XD

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  52. spartigus1511 January 2012 at 23:57

    exactly its just so wrong, that even the characters know it.

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  53. Lindsay12 January 2012 at 01:26

    This should be interesting...

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