LOL, you both! You mean another " attractive, brunette 'monster'"? ;) It's hard for me to tell but I *assume* there's a reason for the wide-eyed, full teeth image in the second picture. Sally could be another (and likely is) "Cat-like creature" like the blonde girl in the promo. There is a brunette gal *appearing* to bite Sam's neck or something like that at the end of the promo. I say *appearing* because I can't tell what the brunette is actually doing to Sam.
I would just like for him to be able to exchange a few words or have an episode where he gets a normal dialogue witha normal girl and be appreciate for his capabilities and merits, like he did with Sarah.
I only said that she was Sam's type because he has always shown a preference for brunettes and because she is said to interact with him and not with Dean, in that episode.
She looks definitely different from her role in Once Upon a Time. Of course that may be because she never bares her teeth like that on OUaT. This episode gets more interesting the more that leaks out about it. Not sure how the brothers will fare with monsters in heat.
I was kind of joking and **I'd love** nothing than Sally to be an "age appropriate, female, character" (besides the young girl who asks for Sam's help searching for her hunter father) like Sarah or even Lindsey from FTBYAM - someone whom Sam could talk to and would listen and sympathize/ empathize with Sam.
I'm going with the official synopsis release which "suggests" that Sally "is not so friendly" (code for "monster"?) and contradicts the early information released as well as Meghan's interview a month ago or so where she said she [her character] asks Sam to help her with a "supernatural problem". Now it's a young girl (Madison McLaughlin) is the character asking Sam for help.
On the chance that both "releases" on "Sally's role" are not mutually exclusive, "Sally" is not necessarily a monster - I can't see if her ("Sally") eyes and teeth are like the blonde character and I can't tell for sure (because the promo moves too fast even slowed down) if Sally also attacks Sam and the last scene of the promo is only of a brunette girl bending over Sam - the stuff I've read is that she is "biting Sam" but I can't tell what's she's doing or even if the brunette and Sally are the same woman.
Ha! Agreed. I'm going with monster too. Normal people don't typically use "I'm going to eat you" expression. Here's hoping Sam, if she really is going after him, gets away relatively unscathed this time. He's had too many encounters with female monsters. I'm waiting for the day the writers retcon Jessica's character and we find out that she was secretly a monster too. Or maybe dreading is a better word.
Hey guys.I rewatched the promo for the episode and I paused it where a girl/monster?(vamp?) bites Sam on the neck.It's her.How can I tell?She has the same white earrings,hair style and jacket
That is true about Sarah. Dean thought Sam ought to marry her. Sarah knew exactly what they were and what they did. In essence, she hunted with Sam in that episode and unlike Cassie did to Dean, she didn't want to lose Sam and would have gone with him in a heart beat. I still think Sarah should be brought back s the woman in Sam's life. I seriously do.
Hee back at you, lol. I assume you know this but one of EK's discarded "Pilot" ideas was for Jessica to be a demon (or possessed by a demon). I *assume* the "Stanford Demon" role was later filled by having Sam's college friend, Brady, being possessed by a demon.
I posted up a few more, but the length of the preview didn't show too much of her. I apologize for the limited caps! Check out my latest tumblr update of Sally!
Thanks! now thinking harder about it, I remember her from Smalville :D, but I haven't watched any of the others shows (I watched Dark Angel, nut that was a long time ago XD)
You're probably right and she will end up being a monster or baddie of some kind but for once I would just like some one to be normal for him, and give him some support and encouragement, and for him to take comfort from it in some way.
I think Lindsey, even with just the few words she exchanged with him did manage to do that, and it was nice to see Sam drink them in and feel a little better with himself.
To hear gentleness and appreciation fron someone other than his brother would make him feel better, I think. I mean he has been through so much. :-)
I don't think either of the boys will ever end up with the apple-pie life, but if the writers did eventually end the show that way, then Sarah is the perfect woman for Sam. She embodies everything he admires in a girl, intelligence, beauty and courage, and would have been perfect even in his hunting life-style.
Cassie, as you say, gave up a little too quickly on Dean, ( foolish girl! ) and would possibly have been less suited to his way of life.
I would really like to have an ep. with Sarah again, just to see if she and Sam still have the attraction they once had for one another. :-)
I agree with all of you about Sarah being perfect for Sam, although I have a fondness for Lindsey, too, even though she was a bit ditzy and a little too forward.
For Dean the only young woman I would pair him with now is Jamie (Monster Movie); I believe Jamie was presented as "Dean's Civilian Sarah", able to match Dean's sense of humor with rejoinder after rejoinder and had to be introduced to the hunting world like Sarah and had no fear of doing what had to be done.
I do agree, though, that it's unlikely that the boys will get other than fleeting happy moments for the rest of their lives. Both experienced temporary normal, apple pie lives and they made their loved ones targets of evil forces.
You're right and Sam has received darn little empathy so far this season except, consistently, from Bobby, whose state of being is still up in the air (for me at least). Dean was *very concerned* about Sam's well being in 7.01 & 7.02 but since then I've only seen Dean as concerned that Sam would go guano again, which isn't exactly the same thing as being sympathetic/empathetic. Even "Ellen" had a message from the other side only for Dean.
I fault the writing, though - with this near slavish adherence to "telling Dean's story/story arc lasting 13 episodes" the writers (post 7.02, less the excellent 7.06) could have and failed to insert seconds long, moments in the subsequent episodes beyond Sam's "Zoning Out" for several moments in 7.03. They could have been showing the audience "how Sam was coping" and randomly pressing his hand and saying "other people have it worse" just isn't dramatically cutting it.
For example how hard would it have been "to film" several seconds in 7.07 (The Mentalists) to have Sam not be positive if it was "really Dean" or "Lucifer!Dean (Mark Pelligrino not required) when Dean came upon Sam in the diner? Or, a combined Helflashback/potion wearing off scene in 7.08 (S7TFAW)? (Both ideas I've read on other forums and not original).
I've read this concern in lots of places - if/when the show does SPN does show /tell "Sam's story" if Sam isn't the ZenMaster he purports himself to be it *could* feel artificial and tacked on. And if Sam really is the ZenMaster, I will be ticked off that SPN didn't show us "on screen" ***HOW*** Sam got from collapsing in 7.01 to whenever the show gets back to "Sam's story".
I agree. For me there are small unimportamt scenes in nearly all the episodes that could have been cut and replaced with more insight into the thought processes of the brothers, and in this particular moment into Sam's,as it's he who is undergoing these hideous hell-visions.
We should be getting much more on his feelings. If you think on it, he went to pieces much more in season 4 when Dean was in Hell. I find it difficult to believe that Sam is as functional as he is portrayed in these latest episodes, and if he is, how is he managing it? I would like to see that. As you say, he's either a powerful Zen master, or something is not right.
I also agree that there is very little empathy for Sam although there's really only Dean left who can give him any, and he sems to be short on it at the moment. However I do feel that there is still more to discover on his Hell experiences and I hope that gets addressed in future episodes.
With the life they currently lead, they couldn't ever think of having "loved ones." The only way it could maybe happen is if they stopped hunting altogether and went completely underground, but then it would no longer be Supernatural. Yes, I liked Jamie too, as I liked Lindsey. I thought she was very sweet and also intuitive, as she caught on to Sam's addiction right away. I think he liked her too, and maybe if they had had more time together something could have come of it, but that would have been another show. :-)
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She looks really cute. Just Sam's type too. :)
ReplyDeleteLooks great! thanks!
ReplyDeleteI was just about to say that, she definitely seems Sam's type.
ReplyDeleteYay, I can't wait!
ReplyDeleteShe looks badass, but I can't remember who she's playing in the show.
ReplyDeletesome Sally
ReplyDeleteThanks for the photos!
ReplyDeleteLOL, you both! You mean another " attractive, brunette 'monster'"? ;) It's hard for me to tell but I *assume* there's a reason for the wide-eyed, full teeth image in the second picture. Sally could be another (and likely is) "Cat-like creature" like the blonde girl in the promo. There is a brunette gal *appearing* to bite Sam's neck or something like that at the end of the promo. I say *appearing* because I can't tell what the brunette is actually doing to Sam.
She's lovely, but I don't know anything about her. Never heard of her before. What sort of role will she be playing?
ReplyDeleteI hope none of that.
ReplyDeleteI would just like for him to be able to exchange a few words or have an episode where he gets a normal dialogue witha normal girl and be appreciate for his capabilities and merits, like he did with Sarah.
I only said that she was Sam's type because he has always shown a preference for brunettes and because she is said to interact with him and not with Dean, in that episode.
I love that I get to see her here and Once Upon a Time, I have a major crush on her.
ReplyDeleteShe looks definitely different from her role in Once Upon a Time. Of course that may be because she never bares her teeth like that on OUaT. This episode gets more interesting the more that leaks out about it. Not sure how the brothers will fare with monsters in heat.
ReplyDeleteI was kind of joking and **I'd love** nothing than
ReplyDeleteSally to be an "age appropriate, female, character" (besides the young girl who asks for Sam's help searching for her hunter father) like Sarah or even Lindsey from FTBYAM - someone whom Sam could talk to and would listen and sympathize/ empathize with Sam.
I'm going with the official synopsis release which "suggests" that Sally "is not so friendly" (code for "monster"?) and contradicts the early information released as well as Meghan's interview a month ago or so where she said she [her character] asks Sam to help her with a "supernatural problem". Now it's a young girl (Madison McLaughlin) is the character asking Sam for help.
On the chance that both "releases" on "Sally's role" are not mutually exclusive, "Sally" is not necessarily a monster - I can't see if her ("Sally") eyes and teeth are like the blonde character and I can't tell for sure (because the promo moves too fast even slowed down) if Sally also attacks Sam and the last scene of the promo is only of a brunette girl bending over Sam - the stuff I've read is that she is "biting Sam" but I can't tell what's she's doing or even if the brunette and Sally are the same woman.
Ha! Agreed. I'm going with monster too. Normal people don't typically use "I'm going to eat you" expression. Here's hoping Sam, if she really is going after him, gets away relatively unscathed this time. He's had too many encounters with female monsters. I'm waiting for the day the writers retcon Jessica's character and we find out that she was secretly a monster too. Or maybe dreading is a better word.
ReplyDeleteShe looks really good!
ReplyDeleteI've eaten so much over the past few days but I still felt like I was starving - for Supernatural news. Every little morsel helps.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait!!
ReplyDeleteHey guys.I rewatched the promo for the episode and I paused it where a girl/monster?(vamp?) bites Sam on the neck.It's her.How can I tell?She has the same white earrings,hair style and jacket
ReplyDeleteWhy are there just two pics? Are there others from this.
ReplyDeleteThat is true about Sarah. Dean thought Sam ought to marry her. Sarah knew exactly what they were and what they did. In essence, she hunted with Sam in that episode and unlike Cassie did to Dean, she didn't want to lose Sam and would have gone with him in a heart beat. I still think Sarah should be brought back s the woman in Sam's life. I seriously do.
ReplyDeleteLucifer used her once. She was real enough. I still want Sarah, normal, loving, I'll fight beside you, Sarah.
ReplyDeleteHee back at you, lol. I assume you know this but one of EK's discarded "Pilot" ideas was for Jessica to be a demon (or possessed by a demon). I *assume* the "Stanford Demon" role was later filled by having Sam's college friend, Brady, being possessed by a demon.
ReplyDeleteWho's her?
ReplyDeleteI posted up a few more, but the length of the preview didn't show too much of her. I apologize for the limited caps! Check out my latest tumblr update of Sally!
ReplyDeleteShe's played by Once Upon a Time's Meghan Ory and a friend also! She was in Psych, True Justice, Smallville, Dark Angel, a few to name.
ReplyDeleteThanks! now thinking harder about it, I remember her from Smalville :D, but I haven't watched any of the others shows (I watched Dark Angel, nut that was a long time ago XD)
ReplyDeleteYou're probably right and she will end up being a monster or baddie of some kind but for once I would just like some one to be normal for him, and give him some support and encouragement, and for him to take comfort from it in some way.
ReplyDeleteI think Lindsey, even with just the few words she exchanged with him did manage to do that, and it was nice to see Sam drink them in and feel a little better with himself.
To hear gentleness and appreciation fron someone other than his brother would make him feel better, I think.
I mean he has been through so much. :-)
Completely agree.
ReplyDeleteI don't think either of the boys will ever end up with the apple-pie life, but if the writers did eventually end the show that way, then Sarah is the perfect woman for Sam.
She embodies everything he admires in a girl, intelligence, beauty and courage, and would have been perfect even in his hunting life-style.
Cassie, as you say, gave up a little too quickly on Dean, ( foolish girl! ) and would possibly have been less suited to his way of life.
I would really like to have an ep. with Sarah again, just to see if she and Sam still have the attraction they once had for one another. :-)
Oh, please..... No!
ReplyDeleteIt's the only sort of pure, loving memory of a girl that he has.
Let's leave him that at least!
Bad, bad Dahne for suggesting such a thing! Only teasing! :))))))))
I don't know if many (or any) people remember this, but she was a lead in Vampire High. I used to love that show when I was young.
ReplyDeleteI agree with all of you about Sarah being perfect for Sam, although I have a fondness for Lindsey, too, even though she was a bit ditzy and a little too forward.
ReplyDeleteFor Dean the only young woman I would pair him with now is Jamie (Monster Movie); I believe Jamie was presented as "Dean's Civilian Sarah", able to match Dean's sense of humor with rejoinder after rejoinder and had to be introduced to the hunting world like Sarah and had no fear of doing what had to be done.
I do agree, though, that it's unlikely that the boys will get other than fleeting happy moments for the rest of their lives. Both experienced temporary normal, apple pie lives and they made their loved ones targets of evil forces.
You're right and Sam has received darn little empathy so far this season except, consistently, from Bobby, whose state of being is still up in the air (for me at least). Dean was *very concerned* about Sam's well being in 7.01 & 7.02 but since then I've only seen Dean as concerned that Sam would go guano again, which isn't exactly the same thing as being sympathetic/empathetic. Even "Ellen" had a message from the other side only for Dean.
ReplyDeleteI fault the writing, though - with this near slavish adherence to "telling Dean's story/story arc lasting 13 episodes" the writers (post 7.02, less the excellent 7.06) could have and failed to insert seconds long, moments in the subsequent episodes beyond Sam's "Zoning Out" for several moments in 7.03. They could have been showing the audience "how Sam was coping" and randomly pressing his hand and saying "other people have it worse" just isn't dramatically cutting it.
For example how hard would it have been "to film" several seconds in 7.07 (The Mentalists) to have Sam not be positive if it was "really Dean" or "Lucifer!Dean (Mark Pelligrino not required) when Dean came upon Sam in the diner? Or, a combined Helflashback/potion wearing off scene in 7.08 (S7TFAW)? (Both ideas I've read on other forums and not original).
I've read this concern in lots of places - if/when the show does SPN does show /tell "Sam's story" if Sam isn't the ZenMaster he purports himself to be it *could* feel artificial and tacked on. And if Sam really is the ZenMaster, I will be ticked off that SPN didn't show us "on screen" ***HOW*** Sam got from collapsing in 7.01 to whenever the show gets back to "Sam's story".
She looks like the sort of person who takes her earrings off right before she starts throwing punches.
ReplyDeleteI agree.
ReplyDeleteFor me there are small unimportamt scenes in nearly all the episodes that could have been cut and replaced with more insight into the thought processes of the brothers, and in this particular moment into Sam's,as it's he who is undergoing these hideous hell-visions.
We should be getting much more on his feelings.
If you think on it, he went to pieces much more in season 4 when Dean was in Hell.
I find it difficult to believe that Sam is as functional as he is portrayed in these latest episodes, and if he is, how is he managing it?
I would like to see that.
As you say, he's either a powerful Zen master, or something is not right.
I also agree that there is very little empathy for Sam although there's really only Dean left who can give him any, and he sems to be short on it at the moment.
However I do feel that there is still more to discover on his Hell experiences and I hope that gets addressed in future episodes.
With the life they currently lead, they couldn't ever think of having "loved ones."
ReplyDeleteThe only way it could maybe happen is if they stopped hunting altogether and went completely underground, but then it would no longer be Supernatural.
Yes, I liked Jamie too, as I liked Lindsey. I thought she was very sweet and also intuitive, as she caught on to Sam's addiction right away.
I think he liked her too, and maybe if they had had more time together something could have come of it, but that would have been another show. :-)
She looks creepy just glad my boys are back and Bobby better be alive
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