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POLL : What did you think of Homeland - Marine One?

19 Dec 2011

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39 comments:

  1. Lilith Hellfire19 December 2011 at 04:29

    loved it 

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  2. spartigus1519 December 2011 at 04:35

    Ok first of all small old people need to stop driving these huge boats, they can barely see over the dashboard.

    OMG this episode was so good, we all knew Brody wasn't really gonna kill himself and their would be a malfunction of some sort.  I feel for Carrie this girl has been dragged through the ringer poor thing..now she gonna have her damn memory whipped out just when she remembers the golden piece. Damn this is a good cliffhanger (will she or wont she remember)

    Damn u Saul for dimming Carrie out and not trusting her crazy talk.  Yea she crazy but crazy people r right sometimes.

    Vice President cover up not surprised, i like how everything falls into place and it makes a lot of sense y David was so defensive and shady this whole season.  I always knew he was a duche.

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  3. BarnabusStinson19 December 2011 at 05:01

    Loved it and all I can say is, this show really deserves the nominations and the awards it has gotten or will receive! :D

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  4. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 05:06

    When I began hearing about the surprise death in the finale I assumed it would be Saul and Mandy Patinkin got up to his old tricks and left the show! Thankfully it was Walker.

    I'm not sure I liked the "episode that cried wolf" as much as I wanted to. 

    I like the twist of the bomb not working. I like the twist of Brody not going through with it. I just do not like the way they played it out. Trick! We got you the bomb is defective. Ok he is going to do it.... Trick! We got you again his daughter called. So now Brody is going to go through more passive undermining of the government? Okay.... Wait! Mathison remembers that Brody knew Isa! Trick we got you again... Now she may not recall it after ECT. 

    I think it would have been a stronger episode had Brody not gone through with it and been killed for his inaction. OR at least a more direct story without so many "we got you" moments. I think the entire season has been brilliant, but in the finale the show was too cute by half.

    That said, Brilliant performances across the board tonight. Strong writing (even if I did not care for the season's endgame) and it does allow all the main players to be around for a Season Two. Very impressed with the actress that plays Brody's daughter, Morgan Saylor! Young actors very rarely impress me, but she was great in a couple of very emotional, high drama scenes!

    Overall this was somewhere between a "Good" episode and a "Great" episode for me, but better than "OK" so I voted "Great" in the end.

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  5. Wilson Crawford19 December 2011 at 06:17

    I totally agree. I was on the edge of my seat through the first 2 days, but when I started to see the that they were sort've taking the easy way out (Hey Nazir! Let's completely change our plan so you don't kill me! Kill Tom instead!) and Carrie doing electro-whatever therapy...it killed the suspense a bit for me. However, both Damian Lewis and Claire Danes were out of this world in this episode. So so good. The daughter was fantastic. I've started to like her in the last 2-3 episodes, just seeing her be so (believably) worried/intrigued about what her father was up to. However, I bet her doubts will resurface in season 2 and this whole issue will be dragged out. I certainly hope that there will be another main story in season 2, because the mileage we can get out of this American POW being turned seems to be running dry. There's only so many twists you can pack into that singular narrative. 

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  6. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 06:30

    I'm guessing there will still be a Abu Nazir/ Brody plot, but it will be the B-plot to an investigation into the the new President (if they jump ahead or the VP running for President if they do not) Vice President Walden played by Jaime Sheridan. He's great playing those evil schemer roles.

    My bet is Mathison and maybe Saul too will be looking into the other black ops he gave the green light to and uncover something big. I cannot see it being just about Brody trying to influence politics.... and like you said. The Abu Nazir plot should be mostly put to bed. They can't play that card as a main plot again and make it as interesting as it was in Season One.

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  7. Lou19 December 2011 at 06:44

    Tied with Justified and Breaking Bad as my favourite finale of the year.  Just so intense I thought I was going to be sick during the safe room scene. Loved all the scenes with Dana the actress playing her has really come into her own during the last couple of episodes.  Did not expect Carrie to go that extreme in her quest to get help and I hope it works out for her.  Delighted Saul isn't the mole (not even sure if there is one now) and his scenes with Carrie are always a highlight for me.

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  8. prpleight19 December 2011 at 07:30

    wow.  My head is a mash up of just googliy stuff.  :-)  My head barely even turned for the last hour.  It's no wonder this show has 2 of the (IIRC) 3 actors from new shows nominated for Golden Globes.  I felt so bad for Carrie.  I was an ep behind and consequently wound up watching last weeks ep and tonights back to back.  Watching Carrie slip the emotional tracks and that ride take her to the point where she actually volunteer for electro shock therapy.  Whew.  I'm really glad Brody didn't flip the switch  but I also really wanted those guys to get taken out.  And I just couldn't shake the feeling that came with the reality of the political decision making exhibited.  This is, for me, the number one of the new series.  

    I'm glad I missed the 24 connection when I decided to check out the pilot.  I was so disappointed in that shows ability to build a fantastic story and then finish it off that I wouldn't have checked it out.   I would have really missed something good.   Awesome show, Awesome episode.

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  9. prpleight19 December 2011 at 07:38

    I agree with you about the trick...and their way out.  This I think is one of the fundamental problems I'm beginning to have with American television.  They are terrified of doing a one-off story.  The get a product and it's a hit, usually really high quality product (Prison Break, Lost, Homeland), and the networks *have* to milk it as long as possible.  

    I think you're exactly right...if they'd ended this ep definitively (I would have even been happy if Brody had changed his mind and decided to take his life back completely.)  it would have been much more satisfying.  But, because they got their second season order they had to leave themselves an opening to the second season  and that, caused them to soften the ending just a tad.  I was still glued in my chair... But you're right.  I would have been better, stronger, faster (sorry!  couldn't help the Bionic Man reference.  It's like a nervous tick)

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  10. prpleight19 December 2011 at 07:40

    I had the opposite feeling.  If felt like they completely cleared the VP and he was left in a position of strength.  I came away thinking we'll be watching an election and we'd be watching Brody try to manipulate the VP

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  11. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 07:50

    We can rebuild him...we have the technology...

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  12. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 07:56

    I guess I felt they showed the VP plays hardball and not necessarily dirty ball. I think they need a new "target" for next year's investigations though. I'm not sure they can get by investigating Brody again as the A-plot. I think they need a new A-plot that has connections to Brody. I'm not sure it wil lbe another terrorist attack in motin by some other terrorist either. 

    I guess I'm not sure exactly where it's going honestly. My only real strong feeling is that as they investigate this new target Brody's subterfuge will become apparent and hit the reset switch on Mathison and she will recall whatever all she forgets after the Electroconvulsive Therapy

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  13. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 08:00

    Nice to hear someone feel the same way about 24 that I did.

    It was an adrenaline ride and fun, but not quality TV to me. The stories after season 1 just were so predictable and formulaic. I enjoyed the series, but I may or may not see the movie. Not until I hear good reviews by critics I trust. 

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  14. Jane Doe19 December 2011 at 13:19

    Killed me. Omg. So many feelings. Claire Danes for all the awards!

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  15. DarthLocke419 December 2011 at 17:42

    Thought it was superb! 

    I am still reeling from the Brody, Walker, Nazir 'pass the phone' scene! The way Brody had failed to take an order and was tasked yet again to see if Brody had come to terms and was ready was brilliantly written out! Genius and intense the whole way around!

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  16. andy s19 December 2011 at 18:06

    I didn't get the feeling that this sort of making twists was for the audience, or due to the fact that they will have season 2. What happened felt very organic in the context of the entire season. The pacing of all the events surrounding the central twist made it so. And two genius moments: 1) Killing Gaines so that, essentially  in all the turmoil they push Brody through the scanners, along with everyone else, and it doesn't matter if red lights go on. 2) Carey remembering that Brody called Issa's name, her sister reacting to it, but nurse quickly dismissing it. It was one of those great moments, that generally can't be pulled of, but here worked perfectly. I guess her sister telling that to Saul will be one of the catalysts of the events of season 2

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  17. Gary Bird19 December 2011 at 21:53

    The finale was terrific, Clare Danes and Damian Lewis are incredible actors and bring so much to their roles.

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  18. Luis19 December 2011 at 22:18

    19 people are terrorists

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  19. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 22:29

    Ha!

    I assume you mean the 19 people who voted "OK", "Poor, or " Awful"? XD

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  20. DarthLocke419 December 2011 at 22:57

    The whole time I kept wondering if the Brody storyline would wrap itself up and we would deal with a completely new plot next season or not, but in some ways I liked that I couldn't figure anything out until the phone scene...I liked that Brody really didn't know what the heck was going on with Walker, but that he just accepted it, because it came from Nazir none the less. (very twisted)

    I think the tricks were bad, or hard to take not because it kept us all forever guessing, but that ultimately it left our heroine in a horrific place. I think we've seen nothing, but Carrie struggling since the beginning and to have the season end that way was heart breaking.

    But I still liked it, even though it was rough.

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  21. DarqueMode19 December 2011 at 23:38

    I get why they did all of what they did in the finale. They needed to show that Brody was willing to go through with it and they needed to test Brody's faith with the malfunctioning detonator - let the audience wonder if he would go through with it or not.

    I think the call from his daughter was comparable to a "redemption arc" and it made Brody feel human, more victim than terrorist again. 

    Somewhere around episode 9 or 10 I figured out Walker was running interference for Brody and it was all part of the design. It was a brilliant way to get Brody past them metal detectors instead of some random event letting him pass undetected. Although I guess when I saw Brody was not going to detonate outside that Walker would be the distraction to let him pass. I did not see it going down exactly that way though. IT was well done!

    I liked that Brody was out of the loop and didn't know Walker was basically part of his support team too. It made for some good misdirection in the middle part of the season!

    The ECT was a nice touch since it could be both the cause of Mathison recalling important details during sedation and the cause of her not being able to recall them after. A nice twist on its own.

    I think they pulled off what they wanted very well. I just felt like it was really cliched and one or two too many "Gotcha" moments all together.

    I'm not sure how they could have accomplished everything they did without doing exactly what they did... They really did a lot in the finale! 

    Brody was shown to be willing to die for his beliefs, he was shown as both terrorist and victim, he was humanized, and he was shown to be more than just a pawn in someone else's endgame;  Mathison was seen as heroic and fragile, but still strong enough to finally face her issues head on.... and then that very strength was turned on her and will be the cause of her forgetting important details - That is a lot for one episode!

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  22. Bruce_F20 December 2011 at 00:02

    Let me nutshell this:

    I liked this episode for the amazing performances by Claire Danes, Damian Lewis, and Morgan Saylor.  Every single one of them deserve award consideration.  They were fantastic.

    I also disliked this episode because it was such a damn tease.  This was the dramatic television equivalent of blue balls - a huge, steady build-up and then nothing.

    While the performances were amazing, I finished the episode disappointed that Brody didn't go through with it and Carrie didn't get her "I told you so."

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  23. tsavonglah0820 December 2011 at 00:07

    Wow, what a finale. Many quite moments, but still awesome!

    The last scene I dreaded what was about to come. When Saul mentioned to her Nazir's kid I was like uhhhh, that is like she mind uncover Brody in Season 2, but then EFFING nurse!!!

    Well done and I'm gonna miss it til next Fall.

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  24. jini20 December 2011 at 00:07

    Wow! Awesome! So intense episode! Claire Danes and Damian Lewis were so great, as usually. Loved also the actress playing Brody's daughter, so damn good.
    Before watching it I was afraid to be a little bit disappointed by season finale. I knew they wouldn't kill Brody at the end -so obvious after all the promos- and so they would have to go on with some twists and tricks...so predictable. On the contrary I thought that it would be a better idea to just kill Brody, to surprise all the viewers experienced and to create polemic (...sort of Sean Bean's syndrome!).
    Well...watching it I have to admit that I totally didn't care if Brody would live or not. I was just in love with the performance from all the cast and the way that they closed the season on the last scene with Carrie (desperate, late and unlucky as always) is just brilliant.

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  25. laura334120 December 2011 at 01:04

    WOW GREAT FINALE......I just cannot get over all of there performances,they were brilliantly played by all...I am so happy Brody's switch didn't work,but i couldn't believe how he is now looking ahead to get in with the president so he could do what he failed to do to the vice president....I thought after Brody spoke to his daughter he changed his mind,realizing his daughter,his family needs him..and what they mean to him.Maybe i was hoping he would of "Seen the Light" so to say.Yep i know wishful thinking in fairytale land.
    Carrie's role gets better and better,i swear if they had Oscars for tv Claire and Damien both deserve one.I  wasn't sure if Carrie was actually going to be back,until i her interview on The Today Show,but still Saul already said she couldn't ever go back to work,so i guess the electric shock works and she is better?Now the question is will Clarie ever remember what Brody said about the boy? probably towards the end of next season i would imagine.

    I am already excited for the next chapter of the story,i hope it doesn't take a full year,that is to far away.So now i would like to read how others felt about this season ender........

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  26. laura334120 December 2011 at 01:10

    Were there really that many people who didn't like it? I just looked,between awful,poor and ok there are now 20.Sorry but it goes to show they don't know there ass from there elbows...

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  27. laura334120 December 2011 at 01:23

    Bruce that was so eloquently stated!  :D

    I do agree,there performances were brilliantly played,not once did they ever falter in there acting.The dynamic between Saul,Carrie and Brody truly are something to watch.They play off each other so well.

    I was also surprised Brody didn't flip the switch,but i thought it was because when his daughter called he realized what he was about to do to his family and how it would affect them.Silly me..

    I think the Golden Globes might be in their future!

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  28. LostGorillaz20 December 2011 at 02:58

    Just seen ep 11 and 12 aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesome,
    Can't wait for season 2

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  29. Jenni Lou20 December 2011 at 04:48

    Claire Danes is the MVP, as far as I am concerned. Kinda feel like next season will have much more to do with politics.

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  30. prpleight20 December 2011 at 06:23

    That's it!  That's the thing I was missing for Carrie (I couldn't put my finger on it when I finished the ep.)  Carrie didn't get her "I told you so." 

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  31. prpleight20 December 2011 at 06:37

    (shoot I just hit the wrong key on my keyboard and lost lots of typing. :-|  )  

    I was mentioning that when I heard about the second season pick up I was hoping that they'd opt to completely tie up Brody's story (either by having him die carrying out the plan or walking off into the sunset and getting his life back.  (my fav cause I really liked the character.)  I realize that this would have meant the loss of Damien Lewis but there wouldn't have been the need for any contortions to put together a second season with him in as a lead.  My thinking was that the show would become a Homeland security (meaning the function not the organization) focused show looking at a particular case.  

    From what we saw being set up in the finale...next season might be have too much politics (especially as it's an election year for the US) going on and I just don't find that as interesting.  

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  32. DarqueMode20 December 2011 at 07:08

    I wondered the same thing too. I love Lewis, but it really felt like it was set up to be a one-off series with that story ending completely. That is until the finale.

    I had completely forgotten it was an election year next year and the show will be more political by all appearances. That will certainly get it some free press won't it?! XD

    I can enjoy political series, like State of Play (the brilliant UK series not the crap Affleck and Crowe movie) or The State Within, but I have always watched those after the fact and not during a similar election period.... Not sure how that will play for me... interesting.

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  33. prpleight20 December 2011 at 12:38

    I don't know what the rules are about referencing another website but there's an interview with one of the co-creators of the show at tv.com

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  34. DarqueMode20 December 2011 at 13:06

    Thanks!
    It's fun to listen to producers talk in circles! XD No we knew where we were going, but we did not knew when Carrie would break down, or who Brody would attack, or how he would attack them, or if he would die or not (from a different interview they said that), and we don't know who put the razor blade into the interrogation room, but... we knew exactly where we were going! XDI do understand the point of knowing a general outline of where you are going and fleshing out details as you go along, but that is a big list of pivotal acts they did not know until the last episodes!

    I think they did a great job over all, but I could tell that they did not have the finale planned in detail at the start of the season. Plus it had a different feel to it with the 3 days noted in subtitles.

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  35. mr.OTHER20 December 2011 at 15:13

    awesome episode. a lot better than season finale of Dexter. the assassination scene was intense... Damian Lewis did bery well then. and I like the "cliffhanger" - I totally forgot about Brody's dream! Can't wait until season two and I hope it would be better (this season had some weak episodes).

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  36. Penny Laine21 December 2011 at 14:04

    me too!!! although I can't believe we have to wait 1 year til the second season!!!

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  37. Stickoxydal21 December 2011 at 20:14

    Finally got around to watch it and I am a little bit disappointed. It was a good episode for sure, but after this excellent first season I was hoping for a bit more. It was far too early in the episode for Brody to blow himself up, so I was sure he wouldn't go through with it.
    And the end was dragged out a bit too long for my taste. Sure they had to set some things up for the next season, but the tension was gone. Nevertheless looking forward with what they can come up next season.

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  38. DarkUFO11 February 2012 at 04:55

    LOVED IT! I just watched the last 4 episodes back-back (I couldn't take the suspense on a weekly base and also some other irritations). I was somehow afraid to finish watching Homeland, but boy, I was blown away.

    Most things have already been said/mentioned, so I'll skip to the 'unique' stuff:
    - Brody did flip the switch (just not a second time), for some persons this doesn't seem to be important, but to me it was. I can image that moment can change a persons life completely. And that face! All white and yellow, I thought he was going to have an heartattack!
    - There was some super great acting, but this show needs both Brody and Carrie. I understand why they gave this a second season, but I will only be justified if season 2 tops 1. And then they should stop after season 2, if they don't, they will ruin the quality of this series. Then they should have better of killed Brody off in the finaly.

    I'm very curious where S2 will lead us to and which extra plot they will add to keep the watchers interested.

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  39. prpleight8 April 2014 at 03:10

    I agree with you about the trick...and their way out.  This I think is one of the fundamental problems I'm beginning to have with American television.  They are terrified of doing a one-off story.  The get a product and it's a hit, usually really high quality product (Prison Break, Lost, Homeland), and the networks *have* to milk it as long as possible.  

    I think you're exactly right...if they'd ended this ep definitively (I would have even been happy if Brody had changed his mind and decided to take his life back completely.)  it would have been much more satisfying.  But, because they got their second season order they had to leave themselves an opening to the second season  and that, caused them to soften the ending just a tad.  I was still glued in my chair... But you're right.  It would have been better, stronger, faster (sorry!  couldn't help the Bionic Man reference.  It's like a nervous tick)

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