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Poll : Do you think FOX will renew Terra Nova

Dec 20, 2011

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What do you all think? has it done enough in terms of ratings and entertainment to get another Season?

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58 comments:

  1. Nathalie MaesDecember 20, 2011 at 5:10 PM

    I don't think so. Considering all the expectations, I think it was just a big dissapointment for them.

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  2. Luke James FarmerDecember 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM

    Why the negativity? :O
    I do, especially after last nights finale.

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  3. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    Yep...Unfortunately Fox is just asinine enough to renew it while probably cancelling Fringe. 

    Now don't get me wrong, I want Fringe to make it another season, but I can see how Fox has been treating Terra Nova, versus Fringe. So the writing is on the wall. 

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  4. Marlene TrenkerDecember 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM

    But isn't Terra Nova like a million times more expensive and takes more time to produce?

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  5. TV SpoilersDecember 20, 2011 at 5:29 PM

    Nope, not a chance. At least not with a big budget like they had for S1. (Plus I never understood where all that money went, couldn't have been for the dinos :P)

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  6. Philipp RenkenDecember 20, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    I think they'll renew it so it doesn't look like they made a huge mistake by producing such a big buget project. I hope they will, because i really like Terra Nova. I also don't think Fringe has anything to do with Terra Nova.

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  7. LouDecember 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM

    I think it all depends on how well Alcatraz does, if it does ok then I think they would give that another season instead as I imagine Terra costs way more money. Frankly Terra Nova is too expensive, it's ratings were poor and unlike other shows like Fringe it wasn't received well either.

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  8. Marie94December 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM

    I hope so, the show deserves a second season to answer all that's been left unansewered, but half of the season was a big dissapointement. 
    The show need to improve plotwise and they should definitely deepen the characters, and put aside somehow the whole teenage angst, the kids are nice but they have too much of sceentime (don't get me wrong I like the Shannons kids ;) )

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  9. Stefanny MoreiraDecember 20, 2011 at 6:03 PM

    Will they? who knows. do I hope they renew it yes.

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  10. JaneMysticDecember 20, 2011 at 6:13 PM

    I hope.

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  11. David NikiforovDecember 20, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    HELL NO! This show is doing really bad...

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  12. isleofskyeDecember 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM

    It's a shame that bad writing and lack of vision has probably condemned this show, as the idea was so promising.

    Humanity starting over in a dangerous past era.

    There is so much to explore, so many ways the story could go.
     My point is that if the characterization and the story-lines are gripping and emotionally coinvolging the network wouldn't even have to spend money on special Dino effects, it would be enough to hear them roar in the background!

    Another good idea badly written and developed, that will probably hit the dust leaving the viewing public with more and more sit-coms and realities. Pity.
     

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  13. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM

    Yep it is, which is why it SHOULD be awesome, but it's NOT awesome. It is as I said in another post, sophomoric at best. The Mythology has big potential but the family dynamic of the show makes it cringe-worthy. The writing and acting leave something to be desired. Don't even get me started on the CGI. 

    Conversely, Fringe has been pretty much a constant as far as all those points go; Even this season considering the budget cuts it has seen. That means even with half the budget Fringe is twice the show as Terra Nova. Not to mention that is has a following that will probably try to end this universe if they do cancel it. 

    Fringe has earned (in my opinion) the right to a proper final season/ending. Be it the rest of this season (given that there are still 10 hours left to produce, [this of course would depend on the movement of FOX] if they want to cancel then they need to give the EP's a heads up and like now), or be it a short season 5, consisting of 13 episodes (this would be ideal since it would allow them to set up for a final season now with 10 hours left, and then produce a final season with little to no filler). But in a perfect world they would throw Fringe a bone and renew it for 22 more episodes, on the promise of ending it fully on their terms, filling a long season with substance and not filler (wishful thinking). 

    I'm not totally dismissing Terry Nova, but I just think they pulled the trigger on it a little to early, because Steven Spielberg's name was attached to it. I think they'd do good to shelve it for a full season so that the Terra Nova people can get their crap together, and produce a better second season. It seems to me that they need to do a full overhaul on the entire show. They need new writers, directors, characters, and cast members. If they spent a little more time on it, then I believe they could succeed in grabbing the attention of viewers like me. I did watch the first five episodes, but I could barely stand those. They failed to hold my attention, and that is bad considering I'm a Time-Travel Junkie. I tried to look past their obvious issues for much longer than I'm proud of, but in the end I just couldn't sit and watch a show that should be better... be well, less than mediocre. Especially while a show like Fringe is getting the red-headed-step-child treatment. 

    Sorry but thanks for giving me a talking point, and a chance to rant again on this subject.

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  14. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 7:27 PM

    Well you are wrong. One thing they have to do with each other is the fact that they share a network, the other thing is that both are high concept series on a network known for dropping high concept series to focus on other ones (unfortunately this means that Alcatraz will effect Fringe also). Fox bases its decisions more times than not on pitting high concept show against each other. The dilemma here is that Terra nova has better renewal potential since it appeals to a wider demographic, but to fans of Fringe it is like Fox cheating, and then leaving on their wife for a shiny new common street whore. I think that if they took a breath and thought it through then they could share the love, but that would mean some compromises in the budgets and time-slots of both shows. I dare FOX to swap the time-slots of both shows and see what happens to the ratings of each. 

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  15. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 8:00 PM

    I have sooooo wanted to like this show.  It is one of the few sci-fi shows this year.  It had great, unused potential.

    Everyone keeps saying how expensive the show was, but I'm not sure where the money went.  Was it all in the first episode on earth?  There did seem to be a lot of CGI there.  I really haven't noticed that much in the rest of the season.  I've seen the insides of a lot of prefab buildings/homes.  Lots of rovers driving around.  No shortage of trees.  A big wood fence.  There have hardly been any dinosaurs, which seems pretty odd, that being one of the main draws of the show.  They did blow money on medical CGI in a couple episodes, not sure why.

    As someone else was saying, they could go with less CGI and more atmospheric sounds.  Of course, that would require them to remove pretty much all of the incidental music.  When we should have been hearing the wildlife, we instead heard lots of blaring music.  The few occasions when there was background noise, it was badly overdone.  They threw in so many animal noises, that it sounded like the Tiki Room at Knott's Berry Farm.  But only for a few seconds before the music started blasting again.  Incidental music when they are in town is tolerable, sorta, but there shouldn't be any out in the jungle.

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  16. Philipp RenkenDecember 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM

    Watch this, it shows how much VX there actually is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkkNlIjmIgc

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  17. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 8:23 PM

    Sorry, but Fringe is dying and that isn't Terra Nova's fault.

    If Terra Nova gets renewed, Fringe has a 0.010% chance of renewal, if Terra Nova gets canceled, Fringe has a 0.011% chance of renewal.  Either way, Fringe will almost certainly be canceled.

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  18. Lilith HellfireDecember 20, 2011 at 8:42 PM

    I think Fox will cancel Terra Nova (but maybe TNT might pick it up, they have been doing a clean sweep of their original programming lately, maybe as a preemptive strike to make room in the budget and pair it with Falling Skies?)
    They just tried to pull a Lost-esque moment and hoped that would generate enough buzz for a season two, which was kind of a turn off for me.  I have yet to see anyone who is truly passionate about this show, whereas, even though I don't watch Fringe, being a Supernatural fan, I know their fandom is almost if not equally hardcore and I have been hearing fearful whispers of cancellation so I couldn't imagine them hanging on to Terra Nova who doesn't really have the numbers or a fandom that generates genuine loyalty and not to mention, faces really still competition on Monday nights.

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  19. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM

    Thanks, that explains a lot.  Unfortunately, it shows that a lot of the budget went toward CGI trees in the distant background and 2149 where little of the story takes place.

    It always seemed odd to me that the gate room in 2149 was this huge elaborate complex, yet on the other side it is a really basic portal in the middle of the jungle without even a small building to hold emergency supplies or take cover from dinos or a storm.

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  20. isleofskyeDecember 20, 2011 at 8:58 PM

    Very well said!

    A tense pause during a scary scene is much more frightening than blaring incidental music.

    Perhaps the cash all went to pay Mr Spielberg for his artistic contribution to the show, because the final result doesn't seem to reflect all this money spending. :-)

    It's a shame, however 'cause I love time travel shows.

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  21. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM

    You may be right but that still doesn't change the fact that FOX got behind the wrong show during the summer hiatus. They put all their eggs in the Terra Nova basket, and left Fringe out in the cold (to mix a couple of cliches). 

    So die as it might, Fringe was murdered by its own daddy, or better yet left to fend for itself out in the wilderness that is the Friday death slot. Not Fringe's fault, it was a FOX fail. 

    What do you expect when you take a show's budget and hack it to bits, then put them on the worst night of the week for television, then rake them over the coals under the guise of saving an episode for sweeps week, only for it to get pushed back yet another week for almighty baseball? Then you kill the entire momentum of the first half arc, by totally screwing up the airing of the mid-season finale, just because you have to get that last "Kitchen Nightmares" out the door (really couldn't it wait another week?). I mean couldn't they have aired WallFlower at 8pm, then follow it right up with Back to Where You've Never Been at 9 pm just to save the momentum of the season? Wouldn't that have at least given Fringe the chance to redeem themselves and have the viewers hungry for the second half? The way they did it almost guarantees a drop in the ratings yet again because not everyone follows Spoiler TV and such, and has the inside scoop on Fringe like we do here. Most people will think it was just the absolute worst mid-season finale ever.  

    Thanks FOX...   

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  22. Gary BirdDecember 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM

    Whilst I like the show, I think that it is too expensive ($4M an episode) to justify Fox renewing it.

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  23. magnutudeDecember 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM

    I hope it does come back to at least tie things up, but if it does make it back you gotta figure that it will be for another short season and they will have to shave a lot of the production budget to really make it worth it: move locations, cut down the cast/make some of the regulars guest stars, etc...it's a looong shot but one I hope to see happen

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  24. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 9:20 PM

    Fox isn't alone when it comes to over-promoting mediocre genre shows.  Look at FlashForward, V, The Event.  None of those came anywhere near to living up to the hype.

    The networks aren't afraid to get fully behind a big genre show.  The problem is that they can't tell a good genre show from a bad one.

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  25. Andrew BarnesDecember 20, 2011 at 9:30 PM

    I disagree, if Terra Nova gets cancelled I think they'll cling to Fringe a good bit more given the costs and risks of setting up a new series.

    They might even consider moving Fringe to Mondays.

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  26. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 9:35 PM

    From your lips to God's (Fox's) ears. 


    Can I get a "Amen"!!!!

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  27. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM

    Yeah I know, but FOX is notoriously dangerous to genre shows. ABC is certainly coming in at a close second with the whole FlashForward thing (they suffered exactly what fringe is currently suffering). V sucked just as bad as Terra Nova, so no surprise there. The Event was good, then bad, then good, then bad, then finally ok. I personally think that a second season would have helped them a little bit to tell their story but I'm kinda blase` on the whole thing. And as it seems CBS doesn't touch Genre shows with a ten foot pole so... 

    Fox still holds the position of the biggest Genre show killer of all time. 

    But we can't speak on this without mentioning the LOST broke the mold on Genre shows, and everything else is still trying to live in its shadow. 

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  28. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 9:53 PM

    CBS does genre shows, but it is all ghost stuff aimed at women: Medium, Ghost Whisperer, A Gifted Man.

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  29. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 10:04 PM

    Didn't you mean; Cancelled, cancelled, and on the verge of being cancelled. Plus medium was twice cancelled, first it was done so by NBC, then CBS. 

    Unfortunately Genre shows are becoming a thing of the past, and sadly so at that. But all I'm asking is for Fringe to end on its own terms. Not because FOX wanted to corner the market on genre shows to a point that they diluted the market. Fringe is becoming/has become a casualty of the inability of FOX to see the death of genre shows in time to salvage the one great one they have. 

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  30. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM

    Fox is not the clingy type (you might be thinking of CW).  The other genre shows Fox has had in the last few years:

    Past Life: canceled after just a few episodes.
    Dollhouse: barely got 2 seasons.

    They have 2 upcoming shows, Alcatraz and Touch, both of which are cheaper to make and will likely get higher ratings than Terra Nova and Fringe combined.

    Also keep in mind, Fox has the following genre shows in the pipeline right now: Convergence, Pyrates, Free Ride, Stranger Planet, Smokers, The Magicians, The Punisher, The Spectre, and Zombieland (and possibly more).

    Unless all those also turn out as stinkers...

    This isn't just a matter of Fox deciding between keeping either Terra Nova or Fringe.  There are about a dozen genre shows in play here for next season.

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  31. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 10:23 PM

    No.  There are more genre shows on now than there have ever been.  There are about 40 of them on now or coming soon.  A few sci-fi, a couple fantasy, a couple super heroes, and the rest are supernatural (ghosts, vampires, werewolves, etc.)

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  32. DarqueModeDecember 20, 2011 at 10:30 PM

    I'm sticking with my pre-season expectations of Terra Nova. 

    FOX knew it was bad, but invested so much money into it that they felt forced to air the entire season to recoup some of the budget loss back with revenue from ad-buys.

    Now they are looking at it and season if they can justify spending the same or similar to get such mediocre ratings in a second season. The answer is no of course, so they will look at how they can cut costs now that they have one season behind them with sets built and their locations all mapped out and good to go.

    I think FOX WANTS to renew, but is going to have a hard time working out the details to make it profitable....

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  33. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 10:33 PM

    But Fringe was there first. Shouldn't that count for something. 

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  34. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 10:34 PM

    When i say death of the genre show i don't mean literally no more genre shows, i just mean no more good genre shows. 

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  35. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM

    To viewers yes, to execs no.

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  36. Marlene TrenkerDecember 20, 2011 at 10:58 PM

    I never watched Terra Nova I only read some stuff about it but I can totally understand what you are talking about.

    I partly agree with you on Fringe. I don't really think it got a stepchild treatment. Fringe is said to be dead since season 2 or maybe 3. It got renewed more often than it deserved. Speaking only from an economic point of view and really only the economic one.
    Fringe is one of the few shows that increased its qualitiy from season to season.
    And here is were I agree with you. Fringe needs a well rounded end. They can't let season 4 end and than anounce its cancellation in May. It would be more than idiotic to renew it all the time with bad ratings and then cancel it without wrapping up the story.
    If they don't anounce final season now than it definitely deservs a 13 episode wrap up season like you said. Otherwise all of the renewals yould have been useless. Just imagine if they cancelled the show after season 3. If any show deserves or basically needs a proper finish than it is Fringe.

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  37. BaffDecember 20, 2011 at 10:59 PM

    I both agree and disagree about the quality.  I love genre shows and yet I don't watch half the genre shows on right now because they are awful.  Yet, there are still about 5 that I love and another 10 that I like, and another 5-10 more that I watch hoping they will improve.

    There were about 25 genre shows canceled in the last 3 years.  None of which do I shed any tears for, though I would have continued watching 5-10 of them as they were slowly improving.

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  38. DarqueModeDecember 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM

    Here is a very good, but absolutely scathing commentary on Terra Nova by Maureen Ryan. Ouch!

    "Dear screenwriting teachers: Use this show when trying to explain to your students what they should not do. Do your bit to ensure that future TV writers and producers don't make the mistakes that "Terra Nova" did again and again. " XD

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  39. Ricky TerryDecember 20, 2011 at 11:38 PM

    Hell you don't even need to be a writer to realize that! Just reading books, and watching TV and Movies for a couple of decades or three is enough to know that. Hell I would almost bet that most high school students could see that. 

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  40. DarqueModeDecember 20, 2011 at 11:41 PM

    I forgot to link the article! XD 
    *Facepalm*

    It's there now.

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  41. BaffDecember 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM

    I've had almost nothing good to say about the show, but part of me still wishes it gets another season.  But, only if they get serious about fixing the myriad problems.  As many problems as the show has, I don't think it would be all that hard to improve the show enough to make it exciting to watch.

    If they are just going to make more of the same, kill it now.

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  42. laura3341December 21, 2011 at 1:39 AM

    They should just put the money into Fringe,but they won't and since they already put x amount of dollars into the show,one more season will not break them.It might put a little more egg on there face but the biggest chunk of change already went into the building of the set,and everything that went along with it.

    Since that money was already spent/invested into the show,for them to give the green light to another new show which could also turn into a dog, isn't it safer to keep Terra Nova for another season instead of dumping more money onto another unknown show?

    I'm am not saying they should,i am just throwing it out there....

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  43. laura3341December 21, 2011 at 1:41 AM

    Your right,OUCH that was some article..

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  44. gregorylkellyDecember 21, 2011 at 1:42 PM

    This is where the execs are idiots though.  I'm getting to the point where I don't give a show my time until about season 3.  I'm tired of getting hooked on a show and having it taken away from me before the story is even close to completed.  It'd be like watching the first hour of a movie and having it end abruptly! 

    I want to hear a network go against the mold some time and say "This new show will be on for 3 seasons no matter what the ratings are.  We are committed to this show and want viewers to know they will get a complete story."  That would make me watch a show.

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  45. gregorylkellyDecember 21, 2011 at 1:46 PM

    This show lacked any real mystery which is what kept Lost fans wanting more each week.  Personally I didn't care about what happened between Taylor and his son.  I also didn't care enough about the mole to keep me engaged in that mystery.  Sure, I watched, but that was because the premise of the show was good, not the storyline.  I hope they renew it as this is the first show since Lost that I thought had some real Lost-like potential, but they failed miserably!

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  46. Stacey L TothDecember 21, 2011 at 5:26 PM

    I really hope they renew it, but given FOX's history I'm not too hopeful.

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  47. Ricky TerryDecember 21, 2011 at 6:00 PM

    *Clapping my hands to you sir*

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  48. Annika L.December 21, 2011 at 6:17 PM

    I thope they will. Like the season so far even though I know they can do so much better...

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  49. pinkphoenix1985December 22, 2011 at 6:25 AM

    I don't think so...I think that having 13 episodes ruined it. Should have been a mini-TV series

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  50. Jimi SturgesDecember 23, 2011 at 3:07 AM

    it will be a bigger dissapointment if they dont this show so far is pretty good i wonder if in the bad lands if there is another time ripe that gose from where they are to the 1800's era that would be awsome

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  51. Penny LaineDecember 23, 2011 at 6:01 PM

    not just the show, but us fans too.... and the ball is in the showrunners' court this time. they can't keep ignoring the facts (ratings) and believing that they will have FOX's support no matter what. It's true that FOX has been generous with Fringe so far (despite the drama about changing the day it aired a few times the truth is that it was picked up when nobody thought it would), but in the end money is what matters, no matter how much the executives at FOX like the show.

    As for TN,  Ricky Terry you perfectly describe my thoughts on this sentence: "The Mythology has big potential but the family dynamic of the show makes it cringe-worthy". It could have been a great show, they certainly have the means and the premise of the story is very compelling, but they took the wrong turn, IMO. The family drama overshadows everything else and makes the show into just another lame drama.

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  52. Marcelo HargreavesDecember 27, 2011 at 1:34 AM

    I agree that Terra Nova has some points that cry for improvement but I think cancelling it would be too harsh. I guess with some changes in the script and toning down the family-oriented parts it has potential to become a good show. At least, different from the themes that are all over: medicine, lawyers, police and vampires. Not to mention the singing ones... hehe

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  53. buddy6554January 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    i lover terra nove i really hope it still goes on it is my favorite show i think it will be renewed i love terra nova it is such a great show it is drama and action please dont get rid of terra nova it is the BEST show ever

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  54. Ricky TerryJanuary 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    Punctuation?

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  55. buddy6554January 3, 2012 at 1:59 AM

    hi ricky terry this is buddy6554 you emailed me but how? i was wondering if you are like editor of this website?

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  56. buddy6554January 3, 2012 at 2:08 AM

    hey hey hey i love terra nove please dont get rid of it FOX cant even keep a show for one season i wish the could lol i love terra nova 

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  57. Ricky TerryJanuary 3, 2012 at 4:23 AM

    What? No. It is called Notifications. When you or anyone comments on the post I receive an Email notification, as do you since you made a comment. The comments system does this automatically, but you can turn it off if you want to. 

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  58. buddy6554January 6, 2012 at 1:41 AM

    I LOVE TERRA NOVA PLEASE RENEW IT PLEASE

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