Dec. 2. “SUPERNATURAL” - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) “Death’s Door”
BOBBY REVISITS HIS PAST — As Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) race the clock on a high-stakes mission, Bobby (Jim Beaver) seeks the help of an unlikely old friend to solve one of the most personal cases of his life. Robert Singer directed the episode written by Sera Gamble (#710).
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Supernatural - Episode 7.10 - Death's Door - Press Release
10 Nov 2011
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Bobby storyline! Sounds awesome. I can't wait!
ReplyDeleteAnd Bobby/Jody please/
I haven't been the biggest fan of the new season so far but a Bobby episode is something I can always get behind. This should be fun.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely love season seven! It's one of my favorite seasons.
ReplyDeleteYep
ReplyDeleteBobby's episode this is gonna be really good!! :)
ReplyDeleteSo, is the unlikely old friend Rufus? Or someone we've never met before?
ReplyDeleteI still think this is gonna be Bobby having a near-death experience. The personal case being his own and Sam and Dean are rushing to save him.
Rufus is dead, so I doubt it's him.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, the first 2 episodes have been the only really good episodes the rest has been sub-par.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I mean. Like that old cliche of seeing your dead relatives tell you to come towards the light. I don't think Bobby's gonna be teaming up with someone alive, because he's gonna be in that weird, not quite dead space.
ReplyDeleteI think we would have heard if Rufus was appearing, though.
ReplyDeleteI love Bobby, I do, but just can't wrap my head around a Bobby-centric mid season cliff hanger. Apparently the guest cast list includes Bobby's dead wife and Bobby's father - not clear if Bobby's dad is still alive or not PLUS I sort of feel overdosed on "bad, bad Daddy" issues. I read that both Jared and Jensen only filmed 2 out of 8 days. Jared only filmed 3/8 days last mid season cliffee. I know the synopsis includes that Sam and Dean will have a confrontation with the Boss!Levi but only two days worth of SamnDean drama :-((. ?
ReplyDeleteI know, I was just grabbing at the first "old friend" I could think of.
ReplyDeleteI love Bobby! Should be good
ReplyDeleteSomebody spotted Steve not that long ago in Vancouver and he said he was there to film Supernatural. In fact, it was around the time they were filming episode 10...
ReplyDeletesounds good to me. :)
ReplyDeleteI read that, too. If part of Bobby "revisits his past" includes flashbacks then we can probably "see" Bobby's wife, Karen, alive, and see Rufus alive. We might get to see Bobby flashback to the time Rufus "saved him" from demon-possessed Karen after Bobby killed her, or possibly what happened in Omaha. It's possible that Bobby just thinking about his dead friend gives him the idea about what to with his "present problem".
ReplyDeleteI agree. Bad Daddy in SPN is getting like Bad Step-mother in Disney.
ReplyDeleteSounds Bobby-centric. Surprised Jensen didn't direct this one. Of course it's probably the timing since he needs a week to prepare while not acting.
ReplyDeleteI would love to know what happened in Omaha. And Rufus is always a win for me.
ReplyDeleteRufus, Bobby's dad and wife are set to appear in this ep
ReplyDeleteYes, I'd like to know what happened in Omaha to cause Bobby and Rufus not to speak to each other for 15 years (?)(TIOMS). It obviously involved a woman whom Rufus cared about being
ReplyDeleteharmed/killed. Or, it could just be Bobby recalling how Rufus saved him by exorcising "dead" Karen.
LOL!
ReplyDeleteYeah... seriously, my eyes almost rolled out of my head when Levi!Chet said Bobby was a drunk just like his daddy. Is every Hunter the product of a "Bad Daddy"?
Love the sound of this. Season 7 ROCKS!!!
ReplyDeleteAgreed, it seems to be floundering quite a bit this year, the best part of it so far was the improv scene the J's did in the hotel a few weeks back :P lol. If a Bobby episode can't save it then I think I'm out :(
ReplyDeleteI'm happy we get to learn more about Booby, I say it's 7 seasons too long! I was expecting something more spoilery , hopefully this description will be updated with more details later on, fingers crossed anyways.
ReplyDeleteI like Bobby and I'm sure the writers will give us a thrilling episode, but I subscribe to the "Sam and Dean as much as possible in every episode" story-line, because that's why I fell in love with the series in season 1 and Bobby was nowhere in sight at the time.
ReplyDeleteI see the secondary characters as being there to enhance Sam and Dean's journey and those secondary characters include Bobby even although he is a relatively important one.
this sounds like another great episode
ReplyDeleteI'd imagine the most personal case of Bobby's life would've been killing his wife. Not sure how much more personal any case could get....and with John Winchester, Pastor Jim, and Rufus dead, who's he going to get to help him?
ReplyDeleteNo. Some are products of Dead Mommy.
ReplyDeleteI kind of disagree. This is season seven, this is the time to explore new and old stories, specially from the eyes of the satellite characters. Seven years of the same format and focus does get a tad stale, so these different POV episodes are wellcomed. A breeze of fresh air if you will, and we of course know that they don't change the premise of the show after all.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think that Supernatural hasn't evolved much in it's narrative, It chose a format and a focus and has stayed with ir for seven years, that type of consistensy is commendable, tough I personally prefer to see the characters evolve and how they react when their context shifts.
I like to see the show thread new ground, but I do get that some fans dont want to see it veer away from its proved formula or shift focus even for an ep.
Aww, Bobby! I love Bobby! I just hope that, a)he doesn't die, and b)we still get plenty of Sam and Dean time.
ReplyDeleteSounds good.
ReplyDeleteI understand where your'e coming from, and sometimes there can be some repetion in the episodes or in the plot-lines, but the basic premise of the two brothers and their co-dependence has held up until now , where many other shows with a more varied actor pool and stories have been cancelled in the first or second seasons.
ReplyDeleteSo Supernatural must be doing something right.
It's not that I don't like them to explore new ground or give us the stories of the other characters in the show, I do, but I would like that basic brother duo to resist and remain at the fore-front.
It's obviously a difficult show to write for, no doubt about it.
If it was a soap opera there would be no problem because we could have Sam and Dean get married, divorced , become Dads, hold down jobs etc., but it's not that kind of show so what do we do with these two brothers?
They are hunters of the supernatural and that sort of limits any kind of a normal life as we have already seen with Jess and then Lisa.
How can we let them evolve without taking away what attracted us to the series in the first place.
I honestly don't think that there is an easy answer
Bobby's all I'm excited about.
ReplyDeleteI love Season 7 so far. The show finally leaving the over used Angel mythology behind and getting back to being the story of Sam and Dean and last weeks episode putting the boys on equal footing and now moving forward. They've been resetting the show to its original concept since the Season 7 premiere and have wisely returned to a single myth arc and many other things found in the earlier season which made Supernatural work and be special and the success it was in the first place. They may never fully reclaim what the show had in the earlier seasons or reclaim half the fandom they lost in Season 4 5 and 6 because he sidelined the brotherhood but now can start heading back that way.
ReplyDelete'As Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) race the clock on a high-stakes mission....' this part sounds interesting. I dont like everything to be spoiled but damn I wish they were a little less vague.
ReplyDeleteYou took the words right out of my mouth:-)
ReplyDeleteSupernatural is Sam and Dean :)
I like Bobby but I reall dont need another Bobby centric episode.
ReplyDeleteWhats the betting the unlikely old friend is Rufus, wasnt Steven Williams spotted on set recently?
Don't worry, something will leak out sooner or later :-)
ReplyDelete7 has been a great season so far. Like every season, it has it's good and bad, but it's been better then some. For a bad episode of Supernatural is better then most of the other series on television right now.
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree. The last episode was fantastic. The one before it was.
ReplyDeleteSupernatural seems to get a lot of fans who hate it. How can you truly be a fan and dislike everything about the show? I love the show. This season has been great. I'll follow it forever. I hope when show ends, they do movies. Jensen and Jared have already said they'd like to do that.
ReplyDeleteListen as long as the brothers are intact and STAY that way WRITERS I can take the ride. I love Bobby too.............maybe he needs to go through something to make him finally get over it so he can take the realtionship leap with the Sheriff! Ya never know! All is well in the SPN world when Sam and Dean are in it and in it TOGETHER. Top 5 Reasons I Love SPN:
ReplyDelete1- The BROTHERS
2- The BROTHERS and Bobby
3- The BROTHERS and BABY
4- The BROTHERS and classic rock tunes.
5- The BROTHERS and all the cool legends and ghosts and mythology stories
So there you have it ..for me it's really all about the BROTHERS! When you mess with them, you tear out the hearts of the fans and that is not very nice.....LOL
We get to know more about Bobby`s past, awesome ;)
ReplyDeleteYou took the words right out of my mouth. How can you be a fan of something if you dislike it so much? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
ReplyDeleteFor me it all depends on whether the his role/the episode is actually relevant to whats happeneing this season-to the main storyline. If it is relevant then awesome but if its just a trip down memory lane then it'll be a Bobby centric episode for the sake of a Bobby centric episode. The important thing is that the episode moves the storyline along whether Bobby is the plot device by which they do this or someone else is it doesnt matter.
ReplyDeleteI think I remember SG or someone saying something about the Leviathan arc becoming more personal for Sam and Dean, maybe this is all something to do with that. What better way for the boys to finally get a move on and start really fighting those Leviathans then Bobby being put at risk/hurt some how? If the Leviathans want to get at the Winchesters then what better way tto do that then hitting them where it hurts by going after the only family they have left?
I have really liked all but the 3 & 4th eps, seems like they are going back to the old, good SPN and I am loving it. Just wish they could find a place for Misha.
ReplyDeleteReally? Huh.
ReplyDeleteI knew about his dad and wife, but not about Rufus. Awesome!
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on Omaha, have been teased by this and I want to see what happened.
ReplyDeletePerfect answer. lol
ReplyDeleteI loved the Bobby centric ep that Jensen directed and am surprised to have another this soon and with Bobby's namesake directing. Love it.
ReplyDeleteI am afraid there are some people that walk around with a big black cloud hanging over their head and want everyone else to get rained on also. I love this series and am so glad its break will not be as long as TVD. For me it could go on for years, but with mostly just the 2 actors I do bet they are wearing out and are glad for breaks of any kind. lol
ReplyDeleteI watched dailies from Buffy and wondered how they could do the same take over and over and over, when the scene was very dramatic...tears, torment, that has GOT to take a lot out of an actor and Jensen does it so well.
Awesome comment..
ReplyDeletehaha, you should see Doctor Who fans, they have 50 years worth of show to pick and choose which bits to hate. SPN fandom is nothing XD
ReplyDeleteI think if you used to love a show, and then watch it change completely from where you thought it was going to go, it can be very hard to let go. People like to bitch and moan it's what makes humans, human XD
ReplyDeleteI haven't been shy about saying that I think there's been too much Bobby on the season recently. But with that said, I usually enjoy Bobby scenes and episodes. I just don't get as excited about them as some other people here.
ReplyDeleteA lot of people are probably going to role their eyes at this next part, but what I'm having trouble wrapping my head around with this news is that Bobby is getting a centric episode before Sam gets one this season. And no, I don't think TGND was a Sam centric. It looked like it was going to be one, but to me a centric episode is one that not only puts more focus on one character, but also that gives you new insight into the character or moves his story forward a little. I was suspicious when I learned the episode had a "Sam thinking of himself as a freak" angle, because that sounded very season 2. How is that relevant to where his character is in season 7? How does the revelation that Sam has thought of himself as a freak move his story forward? It turns out that the story wasn't about moving Sam's story forward, but was about moving Dean's story forward (when Dean lied to Sam and the effect this lie had on Dean). And I don't think the first two episodes were Sam centric either. They had some good Sam scenes, but the first one was a Cas centric episode, and the second was launching the Leviathan storyline.
But getting back to Bobby. This first half of the season is supposed to be about Sam and Dean losing all of their resources, and Bobby has been a huge one this season. He's the last one to go. I don't want them to kill off Bobby because I think a lot of fans would never recover from this. It would ruin the show for them. But if they don't kill them off, then it's a cop out, and what was the point of making this first half so Bobby heavy? They can't get Sam and Dean to the point where they feel all alone if they're calling Bobby for help every episode. So I'm not looking forward to this episode. Either way they lose.
Breaking up is hard to do.
ReplyDeletehaha, indeed! Esp when you have already immersed yourself into a fandom and have made friends with other who share it. Some hope things will change back to how they like it, some stay cos mates and some like to troll. If you don't wanna get caught up in it, it's easily enough avoided ;)
ReplyDeleteCome on, Supernatural didn't lost half of his fandom. Season 4 even brought new fans to the show
ReplyDeleteA lot of old fan, myself include, loved the introduction of angels and the apocalypse plot.
Recurring characters are a great addition on the show: Bobby, John Winchester, Jo and Ellen, the trickster, and last but not least Cas. Aren't they all great?
But I must say, I totally agree with your comment about the "not dean or sam" centric episode. Secondary character are at their best when they put the brothers in perspective.
I'm curious about the ''high stake mission'' 0_o unless the leviathans decided to stop taking their time, the world won't end next week so far
ReplyDeletethanks! sounds great
ReplyDeletesame here.. but apparently getting back to the old Sam and Dean we love means they have to be alone again :( maybe after they get into a good and trusting place again?
ReplyDeletesee I don't mind Bobby I really don't but I'm firmly in the camp of thinking support characters should do just that support, I've seen enough One Tree Hill to get mad at supporting characters getting too much backstory. So this sounds dare I say dull for a mid season cliffhanger, they should be pushing that mid season as Sam and Dean in serious peril to lure us back after hiatus, instead Bobby and his old daddy issues REALLY? Meh. I'm also in the camp of look if Bobby died fine, I'd get over it, he's expendable. I am happy they finally took that step with Castiel and wrote him out but to be honest Bobby can go the same way for me at some point. Season 1 they came to him at the very END to ask his help, 1 episode...now he's in like three quarters of a season or more. I like the days when they had no help. Those are so my favourite days .JDM was the only guest star I could have got on board with forever.
ReplyDeleteHigh-stakes mission - my favourite kinds;)
ReplyDeleteAnd there's a plot for Bobby too!
I was being facetious, hon.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad that you thought so, but for me personally they haven't been that good.
ReplyDeleteEpisodes 3 and 4 were definitely the worst in my mind, in fact I really hated them. 5 and 7 were below average, and episode 6 was cool. I want to enjoy the show still but I just can't for some reason. But I'm glad others are.
ReplyDelete^^; I was watching The monster at the end of the book earlier today when Dean said that for fans they complain a lot...I'm with you there
ReplyDeleteBut its always a problem with olds shows. Everyone is so unique and love so many different things than their neightbor that no matter what writers do, they please some people and piss others one off. When i love an episode, I see people complain, when I don't like an episode, i always see people telling how awesome it was. Some people just can't tell the difference between ''taste'' and ''quality''
Sometime, sure, an episode will be bad cause it was bad...like Route 666...Bugs...All in the family.....but they don't like it while its still good....and they think that because *they* don,t like it, *they* have the only good taste and its has to be bad
There are some really great shows on TV these days so I can't really agree with that at all.
ReplyDeleteHow can you truly be a fan and say "yes" and "amen" to every little detail of a show.:) It's the same with relationships. There's things you like and things you dislike but you still love your other half.
ReplyDeleteI agree, and that's a good reason for Rufus to be included in the flashback of Bobby being clueless about the "supernatural" when he stabbed Karen in self -defense and she kept coming until Rufus burst in and exorcised her.
ReplyDeleteI agree with whoever said that the Levi's were threatening Bobby's life as he is the sole primary ally of Dean and Sam. This would give Bobby a much more solid tie-in to the Levi problem as well as a reason for Bobby's "life" flashing "before his eyes" because if the Levis are actively threatening Bobby, this would add the urgency needed for a mid season cliffee since Dean and Sam would need to ramp up their hunt for Levi!Central to get at the Boss.
I hazard to guess that either Dean and Sam don't either don't/can't cause significant harm to Levi!Boss or Bobby *may die* in this episode (or come close to death because a Reaper is this episode) because at first glance a the title of 7.11 ("Adventures in Babysitting") there doesn't seem to be an obvious continuity ... I've read that what happens in 7.09 carries over to a least in some more profound way to 7.10; in other words I don't know eps 7.09-7.11 are intended to be a three- parter.
Chris684 says "But getting back to Bobby. This first half of the season is supposed to be about Sam and Dean losing all of their resources, and they have a huge dependency on Bobby this season. He's the last resource to go. I don't want them to kill off Bobby because I think a lot of fans would never recover from this. It would ruin the show for them. But if they don't kill him off, then it's a cop out, and what was the point of making this first half so Bobby heavy? They can't get Sam and Dean to the point where they feel all alone if they're calling Bobby for help every episode. So I'm not looking forward to this episode. Either way we lose."
ReplyDeleteI don't want Bobby to be killed off either but that's the very reason I've read "how Kripke justified" killing John off in IMTOD. In "Hero's Journey's" frequently the Mentor!Hero either has to be killed or otherwise made not readily accessable to the Hero(s) so they can evolve.
I keep thinking of Buffy where they killed off her mother so that she could become the breadwinner (or hamburger maker), and sent Giles off to England for a couple of episodes so that she lost her father figure too. And she was much younger than Sam and Dean.
ReplyDeleteYay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteCrossing fingers it's that thing that brought about Bobby's falling out with Rufus...
ReplyDeleteOr his wife's demon....
Very good analogies. In BTVS, the the role of Mentor!Hero was for all purposes shared between Joyce Summers (mother-Hero, breadwinner, homemaker-Hero) and Giles, first as Buffy's actual Mentor!Hero and then as Buffy's primary source of "supernatural information" and support (the "Scooby Squad" was immensely helpful, too, but Giles was normally the one Buffy turned to first).
ReplyDeleteA Bobby episode...great news!
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Even episodes 3 and 4 which I loathed in Supernatural standards came out fairly high on the list of TV I watched their respective weeks. Thee's still no other show I would rather watch week in and week out.
ReplyDeleteBut for me this was the point where Buffy went completely downhill and it never recovered.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Bobby has been off as a character since episode 3. I'm hoping we learn why in this episode and I'm as excited about that as the mission the brothers are taking. One episode out of 23 doesn't bother me a bit. Plus, although this sounds Bobby-centric and parts of it are sure to be, we all know how misleading the teasers can be.
ReplyDeleteHa! I'm just the opposite. I'd rather have Castiel back as a recurring character than John. All John did was tick me off from the moment he arrived on screen to the time he blessedly would depart.
ReplyDeleteFans like you have some freakingly big problems in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteHumans cannot go on and on without a minimum of interaction with other humans. They eventually go insane. And hell if Dean and Sam aren't far enough in the crazy department.
Also if you really like the two main guys, I don't understand why you don't want them to have a family, some friends and I don't know... a life. They come to face enough shit, why not cut them some slack already >_>
I blame Dawn for a lot of that.
ReplyDeletesounds god but december 2nd means a weeks hellatus
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, I loved my clueless Angel, but would love for Misha to come back in any form. Now that he is going to be on Ringer I worry for getting him back on my favorite show.
ReplyDeleteMe, too. I didn't like Dawn and never felt she was necessary to the show. Joyce could still have died forcing Buffy to support herself. The "S5 series finale that wasn't" could have ended with Buffy sacrificing herself to save her friends AND that would lead more organically into her friends thinking she was in Hell and Willow used her witch spells to resurrect her for the purpose of "saving Buffy" from Hell. Tara still could have been killed by Warren, leading to "Dark Willow" for a time.
ReplyDelete4 and 5 were weak but 6 and 7 were great... this season is really good
ReplyDeleteDawn was the worse character in either Buffy or Angel, I never saw that she added anything to the story. People complain about Connor, but Dawn for me was much worse.
ReplyDeleteI usually agree with you Dahne but knowing the history of the show and why they wrote John Winchester the way they did I actually liked him as a character. He kind of reminds me of my dad, he wasn't always the best man, but he tried and the honest approach to writing John the way they did was refreshing considering the shows subject matter.
ReplyDeleteAlways enjoyed Papa John and anytime he shows up I am happy, but still would rather have Misha although JDM was awesome in his movie Losers and wow in The Resident, spooky and on top of all that he is HOT & SEXY.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Becky will show up at Death's Door.
ReplyDeleteGreat Bobby gets another episode all about him! Looking forward to it. I hope Jody is there, too.
ReplyDeleteAWESOME press release!!
ReplyDeleteI hope so.. I think they're adorable! it's time Bobby got to be happy for a while :)
ReplyDeleteI agree, another Bobby-centric episode is a bit too much for me. I already barely made it through WaB. Don't get me wrong, I love Bobby, but just as you say, I love him as a support character and that's what he should remain IMO.
ReplyDeleteI for one loved season 4. 5 and 6 maybe not so much, but season 4 is my all time favourite and I'm definitely an old fan (meaning, watching from season 1 till now). I like the path season 7 is taking, going back to the roots (exactly what season 6 was supposed to do, but failed IMO), but I also loved the demon-angel-Apocalypse-Lucifer storyline, when it was still fresh and unexpected i.e. in season 4.
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree on the Bobby centric episode. We don't need another one (we didn;t need the first one either, if you ask me).
each to their own, I was never a castiel fan, so John blew him out of the water for me. Nobody else has ever elicited the emotions from Sam and Dean that their own father could in this show and that was what made him an amazing guest star, love him or hate him, their father was number 1 on the guest star list for making you FEEL something and bringing the family relationship out.
ReplyDeleteSee we don't really have big problems actually, because season 1 and 2 was pretty much all Sam and Dean on their own and that was what made it great. They have some slack cut with the guest stars occasionally popping up to help them but when it's episode after episode it changes the format of the show. You may not like that format as myself and some fans do, but it was that very format that made us fall in love with this show. How absolutely isolated and alone these guys were. I don't want them to have friends and family because I genuinely believe it's a lonely depressing life for them as hunters, as J2 themselves have said they see them going out Butch and Sundance, I don't want to watch a family of hunters ala Monsters and Little House On The Prairie. Supernatural has always been dark from the get go and that is what I love about it. The feeling of loneliness and isolation. I like them messed up and half mad, but i've always been a masochist that way. That's my feeling on it.
ReplyDeleteI am a huge Cas fan, but you are so correct about John, when he was around feeling were jacked up. I adore JDM, he is very sexy and I hated he was not kept around longer.
ReplyDeleteActually I am not a Castiel fan either. I was sick of the angel plot halfway through season 4. I just hate John with a passion.
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