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Ratings News - 22nd October 2011

Oct 22, 2011

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  1. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 5:11 PM

    Thanks! I find it interesting that Fringe despite being a repeat kept up with Supernatural (ie- Supernatural didn't get that many viewers/ratings) but this is only the overnights. We'll see in the DVR + 7 how it really is I suppose....

    Although  since Supernatural was a new episode and Fringe was a repeat you would expect Supernatural to have more viewers than it did. 

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  2. SuePoOctober 22, 2011 at 5:19 PM

    No, this is just what I expected. Supernatural is on the CW which has far fewer affiliates than Fox, so I don't expect it to ever beat or equal a new ep of Fringe in ratings. But being able to win against a repeat of the show that is broadcast in millions of more homes because of the reach of the network is a good thing for the CW.

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  3. laura3341October 22, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    Even with a repeat Fringe is hanging in there!!

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  4. JMC00October 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    Second most watched (overall viewers) episode of Supernatural for the season.

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  5. zeusfluffOctober 22, 2011 at 5:34 PM

    Really a .5 for Fringe? That's the worst I've seen it at... But once they factor in the DVR numbers shouldn't be that bad...

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  6. Christine DeJoyOctober 22, 2011 at 5:35 PM

    It was a repeat.

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  7. Christine DeJoyOctober 22, 2011 at 5:36 PM

    Same here. Wasn't this supposed to be a big episode with Buffy people too? I thought they would have at least risen to a .8 without Fringe being new.

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  8. Katie1227October 22, 2011 at 6:06 PM

    I'm a bit sad about still 0,7 when many shows got 0,8 this week :'(, but with hope we'll get our 0,8 with the final rating on monday :)

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  9. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 6:18 PM

    Very true but even so-- it is down from last year's 6x05 if I'm not mistaken. It is really sad to see that Supernatural is doing 1+ million viewers with new episodes. :( it is sad.

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  10. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM

    Well like SuePo  mentioned in the post above yours, the CW has got fewer affiliates than Fox so it is not really surprising that Supernatural didn't pull huge ratings over Fringe despite being the latter being a repeat. 

    What is sad for me is the fact that Supernatural has gone down in the ratings to what it had two years ago even. But that is probably because it is on Fridays.

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  11. tvmonkeyOctober 22, 2011 at 6:30 PM

    possible, last week SPN ticked up in the Finals (0.8) and Nikita down (0.5)

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  12. tvmonkeyOctober 22, 2011 at 6:35 PM

    SPN isnt doing great in DVR episode 1 was up from a 0.8 to a 1.2 and episode 2 was only up from 0.7 to a 1.1. Yes the increase is pretty big but thats still pretty low. In that second week VD was up to a 1.8, SC a 1.4, Ringer 1.3, 90210 a 1.2. Only GG and Nikita are doing worse live and in DVR.

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  13. tvmonkeyOctober 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM

    I definately think ratings while important have less impact on whether a show survives on the CW or not. Its not a typical business model. Personally I think that they now don't value the live/same day american viewer as much as they used to, its become more about overseas sales, DVD and lucrative syndication deals. 

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  14. Katie1227October 22, 2011 at 6:40 PM

    I know that...I'm not stupid, that's why I'm hoping it will happen again this week since it was the week where half of the shows got that score

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  15. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    Thanks for the information about the DVR. I'm not surprised that Supernatural isn't doing great. I know a lot of fans who were discouraged by S6

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  16. jensenfan1978October 22, 2011 at 6:47 PM

    There are also a large number who watch streaming on their computers so they can chat with each other and share their love of the show.  Many of those overseas also do this.  In some markets, the show doesn't appear until Saturday.  There are a lot of reasons.  I, too, will wait the 7 day and see what happens.  I would dearly love to see them find a way to count all of us.

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  17. jensenfan1978October 22, 2011 at 6:52 PM

    Well, considering the number of affiliates the CW has, it could be worse.  It's a Friday night.  Many DVR/Tivo it.  Let's wait and see.  They need to find a way  to count the other ways of watching it.  Many of my friends live stream it.

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  18. BoxManLockeOctober 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

    Of course VD, SC and Ringer got bigger numbers with DVR, they started with an 1.4 or something. We were #1 on the percentage increase, that's what matters.

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  19. Ricky TerryOctober 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM

    Wow ease of the offended pedal a little will ya, no one called you stupid but you. In fact it looks like TVMonkey  was agreeing with you. 

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  20. Katie1227October 22, 2011 at 7:21 PM

    xD Its not a big national top secret the final ratings, its easy to find, people need to be stupid if they can't find that

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  21. Katie1227October 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM

    ^^; and tvmonkey looked like he/she thought I was stupid already, when I made a joke (pretty ovious one) and tvmonkey acted like I was too stupid to joke and I was 3000% serious that food is the biggest trouble it ever happened in history.

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  22. AllyAFOctober 22, 2011 at 7:37 PM

    I remember that, sadly I'm seeing that on almost every website, a lot of people who are know on the website picking up on newbies knowning no ones will say anything :(

    Don't let tvmonkey get to you, not worth it :)

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  23. PorochazOctober 22, 2011 at 7:40 PM

    Interested to know the analysis of the fringe repeat.

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  24. DahneOctober 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

    Not at all.  Fox is much bigger than the CW all around.  In fact, I was glad that Supernatural beat so many repeats.  Let's face it.  Many times other network's repeats beat new CW episodes.  That's the disadvantage of being on a netlet.  Heck, basic cable regularly beats the CW now.

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  25. DahneOctober 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

    Here's hoping that Supernatural raises to 0.8 in demo again like they did last week.

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  26. DahneOctober 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM

    Last year had a few 1+ million viewer episodes too, but yes, I is a shame that this is now the norm instead of the exception.  All shows decline in ratings as they age.  I was hoping that Supernatural wouldn't decline so sharply though.  If we keep demos in the 0.8 range we should be okay.  Anything lower gets into anxiety range.  Spring will be the real test.

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  27. DahneOctober 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM

    Live streaming does nothing for the CW or Warner Brothers.  The only thing it can do is hurt Warner Brothers overseas deals so actually high live streaming numbers is detrimental to a show.  Unfortunately while live +7 numbers make for good press points, they don't keep a show on the air.

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  28. DahneOctober 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

    Fringe has absolutely no correlation on Supernatural's ratings and vice versa.  The ratings last year proved that.  It seems people with Nielsen boxes watch one or the other but not both - at least not in large numbers.

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  29. frankOctober 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

    Show almost beat Dateline.  Way more old, paranoid TV watchers than Supernatural fans.

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  30. Rakesh MistryOctober 22, 2011 at 10:39 PM

    CSI: NY has gone slightly up, love that fact! Hope it gets the renewal! And Blue Bloods also looks good!!!

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  31. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 11:09 PM

    You're right but I thought that maybe against a repeat, there would be a chance of getting higher ratings. 

    And that is the really sad thing about the CW. I don't think that  they found their niche quite yet.

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  32. pinkphoenix1985October 22, 2011 at 11:11 PM

    Yes, Spring will be the real test for sure. I'm just sadden to see that it is the norm for Supernatural to get 1+ mil now when it used to be a shock to get before 2 mil. Oh how times have changed huh?

    I hope that the demos will stay steady or higher too

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  33. tvmonkeyOctober 23, 2011 at 12:34 AM

    60% of shit is still 60% of shit.

    It doesnt matter how big you start its how many viewers of the correct demo you can hold on to.

    Its % increase means jack shit actually 100% increase on a rating of 0.1 is still only 0.2. Would we be bigging up that result if a show had gotten it? After all that would have put said show at the top of the percentage chart? SPN got a 60% increase on a very low number and 60% of low is still 60% of low. DVR ratings dont make networks money therefore mean nothing despite what many viewers think and network spin tries to imply. Do not be fooled.

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  34. SuePoOctober 23, 2011 at 12:54 AM

    It all comes down to the bottom line. The CW is in no way a profitable venture for either Warner Bros. or CBS. The networks ad revenue is barely enough to keep it afloat. But, what shows like SPN that broadcast on the CW do do for WB, (I said do-do :) is make them $$ in syndication, DVD and overseas distribution. I believe you're correct that ratings aren't as important to the parent companies, the ratings only serve to help the network itself decide what to renew and cancel. So in essence, the only other shows the CW shows are competing with are the others on the CW.

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  35. SuePoOctober 23, 2011 at 1:00 AM

    But, keep in mind, it is a network-wide phenomenon. VD got over 3 million last year and averages 2.5 now and is the only show getting those numbers -- and that's without competition from American Idol. Both of the new CW shows are getting .9-.8 and less than 2 mill. So even tho SPN is down from last year, it is still ranking up high in the CW's line-up. When it can do that and you factor in it's on a Friday where there is typically more leniency, it's not as bad as it seems.

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  36. Marc-JamesOctober 23, 2011 at 1:16 AM

    I think your right, but people don't like it when i've given the same opinion in the past. For example GG is alway NO 1 on iTunes in the UK And US Week after week which obviously generates some sort of sales. 
    Then you have to look at the stars of the show, while GG might have low ratings they are now big stars who are starting to appear in big budget movies which generates HUGE media attention which again helps the show in other means.

    Then finally GG is aired all over the world and its coverage online has alway mean Huge if not the one of the biggest (Check Facebook) but other shows  including Hart Of Dixie have not even been bought up here to air in the UK.

    So I could not agree with you more, a network like the CW will look at every area of a show before renewal/cancellation. 

    Anyway i reckon 1 MORE 12 EP SEASON to finish on their contracts. :-) 

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  37. melodybeatrixOctober 23, 2011 at 9:18 AM

    Even that's a repeat episode of Fringe, Com'on Fringe Fan let us watch it for the rating!!! We need to save it for the fifth season ><!!!!

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  38. Rakesh MistryOctober 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    I still think despite Supernatural's low ratings it will get renewed! The fans for this show, we will get the renewal 

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  39. BoxManLockeOctober 24, 2011 at 2:52 AM

    I completely agree. DVR numbers have absolutely no relevance for CW shows because they have such low ratings. What I believe matters is how high you're on the list, and we were #1.

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