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POLL : What did you think of The Walking Dead - Save the Last One?

31 Oct 2011

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48 comments:

  1. klutzy_girl31 October 2011 at 02:00

    It was a good episode! Where the hell is Sophia, though? It's been three episodes!

    And WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU, SHANE? I was just starting to like him, too! Seriously, jerk?

    And ugh, Lori. Stop being so annoying.

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  2. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 02:04

    This was a very intense episode of TWD! 
    From the multiple near death escapes by Shane and Otis to the seizure Carl was having as helpless mom and Dad watched. I just knew that symbolic gesture of shaving his head was a bad omen (Not mention a cropped coif shows off his Cro-Magnon eyebrow ridge)!  .

    Bad Shane! Bad! That's seriously f^$#^#$ up!

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  3. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 02:06

    I guess for Shane it was like that old expression...

    If a bear is chasing you (or a zombie), you don't need to outrun the bear.... you just need to outrun  the other guy with you.

    Survival instinct is a powerful thing!

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  4. frank31 October 2011 at 02:12

    If one of my good friends were to see Shane he'd say: "He's lookin' at a different TV.".

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  5. klutzy_girl31 October 2011 at 02:43

    He could have made it quick, though, by shooting him in the head or something and not leave the zombies kill him.

    If Shane had to do it, he should have been a teensy bit more humane about it!

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  6. Linlighthouse31 October 2011 at 02:48

    Shane is getting in touch with his bad side. Very powerful episode, reminding us that these people are in survival mode. And I'm guessing, they're going to get more so (see: Lord of the Flies).

    Dale is downright creepy with his pursuit of Andrea, begging for forgiveness. Dale, she's just not that into you!

    The Rick and Lori moments were sweet.

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  7. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 02:49

    Yeah I guess he didn't want to "waste" a bullet making it quick. Serious villainy!

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  8. frank31 October 2011 at 02:50

    I think Otis had to be alive or the zombies wouldn't have stopped to feed.  I don't think they feed on dead meat.

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  9. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 02:55

    That's a good point. I guess he maybe could have let them start feeding and then shot him. Maybe they'd have kept feeding since he was still warm and freshly dead? 

    Not sure but either way evil without a conscience or evil with one... still evil! XD

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  10. Sarah K31 October 2011 at 03:21

    I think it says a lot that when Shane got back to the farmhouse, my first reaction wasn't one of happiness, but one of, "Where is Otis, Shane? What did you do? Did you kneecap him, you ass?" What really got me was that camera shot when Shane was hobbling away, and they were only a few feet away from a school bus! Hobble to the school bus, get in, lock the doors, start the bus (because bus drivers usually leave the keys in the bus to my experience), and drive that sucker to your truck. If the keys are out, honk the horn, turn on the headlights, honk the horn again, and hobble out the back exit but don't injure yourself more on the drop. But no. You have to have an extended fight with Otis that cuts down on your joint hobble time and hobble past the bus to where ever you left the truck. Way to go, Shane.

    Also, why didn't Andrea and Daryl check the tent where suicide walker was hanging out? (Yes, that was a horrible pun.) I mean, yes, Sophia would probably be stupid to hang out in a tent so close to a nonstop moaning walker-attractant, but still.

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  11. frank31 October 2011 at 03:24

    Horrible pun, but good nonetheless.

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  12. frank31 October 2011 at 03:32

    Now that you mention it, Dale does have that lawn chair-in-the-driveway-staring-at-the neighbor look to him.

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  13. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 03:35

    I wondered about the tent check too.

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  14. frank31 October 2011 at 03:37

    I just assumed they had done it before finding the hanging dude.

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  15. Marie23731 October 2011 at 03:53

    ^^; I voted poor....nothing happened...again. The season started great with the premiere, now we had 2 episodes in a row of only searching the girl and going to the school. Having more episodes this season isn't such a good thing after all, instead of having more stories, they just stretching the ones they have a LOOOTTT....I'm starting to grew tired of this season already.....

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  16. MSWeimer31 October 2011 at 03:53

    Not sure about the walkers needing to eat live meat ... remember Daryl mentioning the other walkers ate the flesh off the pinata's legs?  Maybe they did it while he was dangling and still alive but that would hardly seem likely since he had enough time to write his poem.

    Where did those people find bread for Rick's sandwich ... it looked too neatly sliced to be homemade but those girls looked like they had better domestic skills than myself.  Maybe the wonder bread truck is out on that freeway somewhere and they were able to get a few loaves in the freezer.

    Oh Shane ... that was like 5 or 6 different kinds of (*&#)* up.  You're a tool.  Sorry if I insulted any tools out there by lumping him in with you.

    Daryl is the $hit ... he gets some of the best lines.  Love the backstory of him being lost in the woods for 9 days and no one even looking for him.  I wanna give him a hug ... and some calamine lotion.  I love that the more time he spends with good people, the better person he becomes.  That should make for some nice drama when Merle returns (if they ever bring him back ~ fingers crossed).

    Can we just find Sophia already?  I'm starting not to care.

    Dale ... you're irritating.  Please get off your big ass RV shaped soap box and STFU.

    Lori ... you are also irritating the crap out of me.  Instead of being such douche waffle, pick up a gun and get busy.

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  17. frank31 October 2011 at 04:00

    Interesting point about meat and the hanging dude. But I have to think that the walkers would have stopped and eaten in the traffic jam on the road with the bodies in some of the vehicles and on the road.And of course, freshly killed walkers.

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  18. chris68431 October 2011 at 04:01

    I really hate Shane right now. I want to unsee that scene.

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  19. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 04:07

    Agreed on all counts, but I really never cared that Sophia left to begin with. XD

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  20. MSWeimer31 October 2011 at 04:10

    The whole thing didn't make sense to me other than being a good catalyst for the Daryl/Andrea conversation.

    I mean, if he had been bitten, why would they just take a bite and then leave, wouldn't they have eaten more of him?  Or if he was bit and ran, why did he even bother to set up a tent?  Maybe he killed the walker after he was bitten but I didn't see any other walker corpses.

    I am actually cringing at some of the things I just typed but I'm not sure I could put it any more delicately if such a thing exists when talking about flesh eating zombies.

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  21. MSWeimer31 October 2011 at 04:14

    The only reason I "care" is because the longer she's gone, the more snivelling I have to listen to from her mom.  She's about as intersting as a bucket of snot.

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  22. frank31 October 2011 at 05:07

    I looked at as he was one of the ones in the tent. He wrote and posted his note, climbed up and set the noose and the others in the tent (walkers) chewed him up as high as they could while he hung there.

    I know that's a "all the pieces must fall in place" scenario.

    But you make a very good point. And I can see my mind racing most of the night until I figure it out!!

    I'm going to have to clear the room from now on. Lots of detail in this show.

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  23. magnutude31 October 2011 at 05:44

    Great ep. I had an inkling that Shane left Otis, especially after he returned alone, but when he appeared all wiggly and guilty, that confirmed it.. Shane's actions reminded me of the times I've been camping and someone would always say that if a bear attacked to run and when someone says that you can't outrun a bear, the response is that I only need to outrun them..... Just when you think that you could respect Shane, he pulls this. Can't wait to see how this plays out as the guilt will be eating him up inside.... Liked the interaction with Andrea/Darryl in the woods, now just let Sophia appear so we can move forward from that storyline, please....

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  24. frank31 October 2011 at 06:06

    Her mom has to have something to contribute or else they pretty much wasted the spousal abuse backstory. Yeah it was good to see him get whipped on but it just didn't matter that much.

    Although, didn't the original "Assault on Precinct 13" have a character who basically sat, curled up and cried throughout the entire movie?

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  25. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 06:24

    I watched it again and I have to say.... Shane killing Otis did not bother me as much on second viewing.

    I think it was more than JUST survival mode and either Shane or Otis was going to die. I think he truly wanted to guarantee that someone made it back to Hershel's farm with hte respirator for Carl. Otis was dragging behind Shane even with his bad knee and he realized either they would both die, basically assuring Carl's death, or One of them could make it if the other was a zombie buffet.

    He made the tough decision not many people could make to give Carl the best shot at recovery. Like those trapped mountain climbers who have cut lose the person on the bottom of the rope to lessen the load. Both can die or one can be sacrificed so the other may live. 

    In this case killing Otis (who I liked as a character) not only saved Shane but in all likelihood it also saved Carl.

    At the very least I think he rationalized it to himself that way in the moment.... Now he just has to live with it and  I don't think that will be an easy task for him.

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  26. MSWeimer31 October 2011 at 11:51

    That covers everything ... I'm going with that.

    Now if you can explain the whole baby seat thing from last week, I can get on with my life ... I've been chewing on that for 8 days now (ugh, bad pun)

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  27. MSWeimer31 October 2011 at 11:54

    Definitely a good way to look at this so Shane doesn't seem like such a d-bag ... its almost tragic.  He keeps trying very hard though to do the right thing but it's like his perspective is very short sighted.  He puts a bandaid on something before he considers the long term. 

    Daryl could have figured out a better way ... Daryl FTW!!

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  28. Linlighthouse31 October 2011 at 12:20

    I think you're right. Shane's overriding thought was to save Carl.

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  29. Linlighthouse31 October 2011 at 12:27

    My question is, why wasn't he dead already? His head was in a noose, his legs were chewed, and he's still hanging there alive. Must have been a bad noose maker.

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  30. Chanelle Montpetit31 October 2011 at 13:45

    I dont think i could hate a character more then Shane. i dont. nope

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  31. Linlighthouse31 October 2011 at 14:08

    This week's The Talking Dead was pretty good. Best of the three.

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  32. Jason31 October 2011 at 15:07

    He was bitten and already had the fever. The only way to die would be to blow his brains out.

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  33. SuperJodes31 October 2011 at 16:00

    The thing that everyone has to remember is this is an unusual situation and to survive, people do pretty crazy things. I'd like to think I wouldn't be that calllous and unfeeling to sacrifice someone else, but I've never been in a situation that would require me to make a decision like that. The thing you have to ask yourself is would you rather sacrifice yourself so the other guy can live or would you sacrifice the other guy so you can live? That was essentially the situation he was in and had to make a decision because if he wouldn't have, they both would have died which would have also resulted in Carl's death. So he could sacrifice himself, sacrifice Otis, or both try to make it and die because one was out of shape and the other was limping, so the zombie herd would have overtaken them. I don't see another option. It was callous. It was unfeeling. But who is alive? I'd like to think I'd be honourable and sacrifice myself, but honestly who knows? Put yourself in the situation — what would you actually do? 

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  34. Marie23731 October 2011 at 16:25

    ^^; I cared little about Sophia in the premiere....I started not to care in the 2nd episode...but having a 3rd episode of searching for her I'm starting not to care about the whole serie........I couldn't care less of what Shane did because I'm just so tired of the story not moving because of that annoying little girl and her annoying mother....and now we're on her way to the 4th episode of searching her.....ooohhh great-_-;;

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  35. the dane31 October 2011 at 19:10

    Ah, so I wasn´t the only one who thought that Sandwich looked to good to be true. :-)

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  36. the dane31 October 2011 at 19:17

    I LOVED this episode. I don´t get that people have so much hate for Shane. I don´t like what he did either, but he did it for Lori and Carl. I like that he wasn´t a hero, it would just seem so typical and make the series worse. Better this way - he did something (real) bad, but for the right reason.

    Daryl is getting better in every episode. Please give him more screen time.....

    Like most of you I don´t really care about Sophia. But I guess I have a little hope that she will have a good story to tell once she gets back.

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  37. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 19:49

    Daryl would have gone in solo and come out with the respirator and managed to find a 6-pack or beef jerky inside too.

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  38. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 19:50

    I guess if a situation like this came down, some people would be utterly useless and Sophia's mom represents that demographic. Still... ugh!

    She's the type some one inevitably would leave behind....

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  39. Pablo Winston31 October 2011 at 20:09

    What the hell is wrong with some people? You're watching a Zombie tv show. If your moral compass is such that what Shane did is inexcusable and you consider him a bad guy, then I suggest you stop watching right now.

    In zombie apocalypse, EVERYTHING goes. And Shane was awesome.

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  40. DarqueMode31 October 2011 at 20:21

    If the mission was to save Carl, Shane accomplished it.  

    Could both of them have escaped and saved Carl?  I doubt it. Shane is the one responsible for saving Carl's life and the dastardly deed of killing Otis (a choice most would not and could not have made) was in fact heroic from that stand point. 

    That's what I love about TWD... shades of grey. There is no right or wrong, no moral absolute. There's only personal choices and personal ethos, and of course dealing with the consequences of your action or your inaction!

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  41. frank31 October 2011 at 22:27

    YES!!  It would be, "Can you go over by those trees and get the bag we left?". Then everybody jumps in the RV and hi-tails it.

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  42. MSWeimer1 November 2011 at 03:38

    OMG ... I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed ... I have a special bread knife specifically for making perfect bread slices and my home made slices look like I I chopped them up with a toyota.

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  43. MSWeimer1 November 2011 at 03:49

    I can't figure out how the useless people would survive.  It's like the cave man ... you always see them represented by these well fed burly cave men - but you know our ancestors are the itty bitty skinny fuckers that got away from the T-Rex.

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  44. Stupot8151 November 2011 at 17:18

    Finally, someone with some sense.  I was just about to post saying just this after so many people were giving it all this about 'shane is evil/survival instinct'.  He did it for Carl.  He loves that kid almost as much as Rick does.  When they thought Rick was dead, he had all but taken up the role of stepfather.

    I love Shane after this.  I don't condone cold-blooded murder, but he did what he thought was best (Otis did shoot Carl after all).  He now has a dark dark secret that is going to eat him up from the inside for the foreseeable future.  If we see a new dark, maybe evil Shane, it's because of the way he killed Otis, not the other way around.

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  45. MSWeimer2 November 2011 at 02:43

    I don't really have a problem with him shooting Otis - I get that he needed to save Carl.  My main reason for disliking it so much is that Shane didn't shoot Otis in the head (live vs dead flesh argument aside). 

    I don't believe Shane could have made a different choice and still save Carl, but I do think that he should have considered saving his humanity and not just a human.

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  46. Wilson Crawford6 November 2011 at 05:05

    In the second episode I heard "fairburn road" and now I'm not far into this episode yet, but I recognize the school... Seems like it's around Newnan. Which would be funny because that's where they shot a big scene for "Zombieland" a few years ago. 

    All this tension about Carl getting shot is just gut wrenching. I hope it lightens up for just a moment to let me breathe.

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  47. Wilson Crawford6 November 2011 at 06:06

    ...Nothing...happened?
    What the hell are you watching? Because that whole episode had me upset with all the stuff that was going on...

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  48. Soline6 November 2011 at 18:07

    its was the 3rd episode in a row they're walking around in the wood searching for the same stupid little girl^^; its really starting to get beyond annoying

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