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Oct 29, 2011

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  1. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 3:00 AM

    Ha! 
    I loved the opening scene with "Sweet Dreams" and Little Red Riding Hoodie getting mauled!

    I've never seen the lead actor in anything, but he kind of reminds me of a cross between Shaw from Chuck and Sylar from Heroes. Sadly without Sylar's charisma and perhaps more sadly he may have Shaw's charisma. XD

    Hulda's attack on "Aunt" Marie was actually intense and pretty well done. I came in expecting low-budget makeup and FX and it was better than I expected... albeit still not great. Passable though, at least on par with Buffy or Doctor Who etc.

    The musical scoring was great and enhanced the action for me instead of feeling forced like so many series lately.

    The thing that is great to me is the mythos of the series. It is VERY real world based with fairy tales being real but hidden from the masses. I like this premise much better than that of the (not so) similarly fairy tale based Once Upon a Time. In OUaT the actors sell the fairy tale aspect by being overly dramatic and cliche while in Grimm it is all played as straight - just part of reality.

    It has less of the snarky verbal banter of Buffy or Angel, but it does have a similar feel to the level of production value. Despite being a lower budget production it manages to take itself seriously which I like a lot. No tongue in cheek playing toward the audience or jokes that are designed for the viewer and seem odd coming from the character. It so far has a much more serious tone though, more of an horror-drama than a horror-comedy. 

    Eddie seems to interject most of the humor so far... I can see all of that evolving as the series moves on (if it does). 

    I loved the ending with mystery blonde trying to eliminate Aunt Marie at the hospital and the police captain being a baddie!

     If I had to guess, there's only room for one fairy tale series on network TV and Grimm is too dark and straight forward compared to Once Upon a Time. While I personally do not find OUaT very charming yet, it is easily more kid-friendly and cutesy than Grimm and I think that will sell better to the young and the young at heart. Plus Once Upon a Time has a much higher production value and a larger promotional machine behind it than Grimm.

    The Pilot episode of Grimm was much, MUCH better than I anticipated! It was not brilliant TV by any stretch, but I managed to enjoy it for what it was. I could see it evolving into a series I like quite a bit.... I also can see it going 5 episodes and being cancelled. I think it is not necessarily better than Once Upon a Time, but it definitely more my style of choice.

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  2. XindiliniOctober 29, 2011 at 3:13 AM

    I don't usually like things out of the gate, but I like this very much. It's perfect weekend TV.

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  3. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 3:23 AM

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  4. AnneSohie_JCOctober 29, 2011 at 4:08 AM

    I think it was good

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  5. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 4:39 AM

    Honestly I think this was a better pilot episode than just about every other new drama this 2011 Fall TV season other than Homeland (maybe tied with Unforgettable and Person of Interest).

    It was just the perfect well-honed pilot. It let you get to really know the lead character, set up the series mythos and outline in a very coherent manner, showed the supporting cast enough to know who's who and managed to have a very well executed story that did not feel cheated or shortened by the amount of exposition that's often in pilots.

    I'm not saying it is the best made series or it will be a hit, but this pilot episode did everything a pilot episode should unlike a number of the big dramas this season.

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  6. SmallvilleSupernaturalCastleOctober 29, 2011 at 5:02 AM

    i wasnt a big fan of it. It didnt really have a compelling story i thought as much as the others. ALl its about is literally a cop who is a descendent to the legendary grimms can see fairytale monters and stop them. It litterally is a combination between once upon a time and supernatural. I already watch supernatural and i think i liked once upon a time more but i thought this wasnt "bad". the development of the story and characters has a lot to choose and evolve from but i dont know how well will this show do. Im still going to continue watching but it is always going to be my dvr'ed show after nikita, supernatural, and sanctuary live.

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  7. displaynameOctober 29, 2011 at 5:11 AM

    It's a total stinker. The acting was awful, especially by the lead. The female characters, aside from the aunt (who was sidelined early on anyway), existed only to be clueless or victimized. The show was extremely unoriginal and very boring. The poor production values hurt it, and the lead character was a total snooze. I didn't care a bit about him. Awful, awful show, and definitely one of the worst pilots of the season.

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  8. XindiliniOctober 29, 2011 at 5:46 AM

    I suppose it's good for those who does not watch Once Upon a Time or Supernatural.

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  9. mbale473October 29, 2011 at 6:13 AM

    I wasn't impressed. For me it was too predictable and not enough depth. I couldn't get into the actors and although the opening scene was great, after that it went downhill....

    After LOST and 24 ending, I would think there would be some genius out there who would develop something of the same magnitude, but not yet :(  

    Thank God for Fringe. Damn World Series! .... Kidding.. Gratz St. Louis.!

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  10. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:23 AM

    Lead actor is VERY wooden, but he was not as bad as the original reviews that I read said. Overall the acting certainly was not great... no argument is possible.

    I don't agree about the women only being clueless or victims though. The assassin blonde was neither, we don't know enough about his girlfriend yet to say either is accurate (she did not come off as clueless or a victim to me though), the coed friend was a witness and basically a featured extra, a doctor, a mother whose daughter was kidnapped, and the other women introduced were literally the victims in the episode. So 2 victims (to the story), 1 witness that was not clueless, a doctor that was not clueless, a distraught parent, 1 bad-ass cancer ridden-Grimm, one bad ass assassin and a girlfriend that I don't know enough about yet.

    As far as production went, it's no worse than CW series pilots to my eyes. This is the pilot remember. VFX usually get better as shows like this move along (if they last). Look at Buffy's VFX in the pilot and this comes out ahead honestly.

    I tried to watch every pilot this season and this was at worst middle of the pack for me.

    Much better than all the soon-to-be cancelled or already cancelled sitcom pilots....and noticeably better than the pilots for Hart of Dixie, Prime Suspect, Playboy Club and Ringer.

    I don't know why I'm defending it, I thought it was only okay! XD

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  11. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:27 AM

    I'e been waiting for that "WOW" series too.... 

    We have not had a genre "WOW" series in more than 3 years since Fringe debuted.... Well unless we count WOW that was bad! XD

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  12. katnewkirkOctober 29, 2011 at 6:44 AM

    i loved this! it's better than once upon a time, which only has lana parilla going for it.

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  13. isleofskyeOctober 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM

    I didn't see it but I'm glad it wasn't as bad as expected. It would have been better to have aired it on another night but but tv network bosses.................!!!
     
    I love all the shows that take us out of the "real" world and give us food for our imaginations.
    If it was for me I would bar all sit-coms and fill the air-waves with mystery/fantasy shows.
    I mean our daily lives are so ordinary so I want to see something exciting and enthralling when I switch on the tv!

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  14. tariqqOctober 29, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    for me it was much better than Once Upon a Time  mostly for the same reason Darque described :) the darker  and more realistic tone

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  15. the daneOctober 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Really???? Game of Thrones was a WOW series for me. I just love it!! 

    I love Fringe, but for me GoT topped that. 

    But I know what you mean. There has been no great new series this season. Homeland is really well done, with great actors, but it´s not even close to a WOW feeling.

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  16. DarkUFOOctober 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    Same here. I could not watch OUAT, just not my thing. Grimm, was a lot better than expected although I think it's going to struggle to find enough of an audience to survive. Be interesting to see it's ratings after 2-3 episodes.

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  17. WilliamOctober 29, 2011 at 11:36 AM

     I voted great, I was being very generous though. The lead actor sucks, his partner is boring, the captain is good but he was barely in the pilot, I can't stand that guy from Prison Break, but I like the wolf dude. Good to know he'll stick around.

    Loved the opening scene, the music is really good and the visual style is the best thing about the show imho. The CGI was good enough too.

    I hope the stories and the "cases" will be more interesting because the cast alone won't be able to carry Grimm. Too bad, it could've been a really great show with a few different people.

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  18. SmidniteOctober 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    It's filling the Buffy/Angel void in a way that nothing else out there has for me.

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  19. tariqqOctober 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM

     yeah its definately the same type of show as Buffy/Angel and Lost Girl

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  20. tariqqOctober 29, 2011 at 12:48 PM

    considering how badly NBC is doing it could still have a chance even if it flops
    Prime Suspect just did a 1.1 on thursday after a week of alot of promotion/re runs every night

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  21. RobertAriadneOctober 29, 2011 at 2:46 PM

    It sucked. The main character had the most enormous head. You ever see pictures of cavemen? He had one of those heads, and without the intelligence.

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  22. AshwaqOctober 29, 2011 at 6:03 PM

    I really really liked it ... It was entertaining, appealing and sometimes funny.. it was surprising and unexpected in a good way..

    David Giuntoli was fantastic in his first tv show as a lead .. Russell Hornsby provided a very solid character.. as for Sasha Roiz, I can't just think of that guy as good, right?

    Silas Weir Mitchell was hilarious on his own.. he cracked me up with his jokes.. he was flawless..

    At some scenes I felt like I was watching a Fringe spin-off, either with the direction of the scenes or with the background score (which was so much similar to Fringe's) now, I don't know if it's just me missing my Fringe dose this week or what.. but it's there throughout the whole episode..

    Overall, it was a very good Pilot .. I really look forward to more mystery and mythology..

    ratings: *****/5

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  23. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    I was thinking of only network TV I guess (on cable TV I have been WOWed by Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire  wowed by The Walking Dead and Justified).

    Even more specifically a myth heavy series along the lines of Lost or Fringe etc. Everything that has come out along those lines has been fairly mediocre in my opinion. I have very slight hopes for Alcatraz and The River when they come out mid-season.

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  24. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:24 PM

    I really liked Silas too. He was fun as Haywire on Prison Break. This looks like that similar kind of off-beat role for him.

    Sasha just cannot be a good guy on anything. Agreed!

    I noticed some minor Finge-ness to the series too. The way the score music closed a couple of scenes I was thinking to myself that Grimm stole the same  music exactly!

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  25. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM

    I was drawn in to Buffy a bit more by the humor in its pilot, but this definitely had the same feel and rhythm to it. I think there will be a lot more humor in the rest of the episodes with bonding between a Grimm and a Blutboten (?) and also Sgt. Wu.

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  26. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:38 PM

    I was hoping Grimm might do for its "unknown" actors what Buffy and Angel did for theirs slightly more well known actors.... but I am very dubious....

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  27. DarqueModeOctober 29, 2011 at 6:40 PM

    Friday seems to be Genre night on networks, but maybe after a few (more) series get cancelled NBC will pull Grimm out of the Friday night death slot. 
    I doubt it though...

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  28. AshwaqOctober 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

    I hope Silas stays like that..

    you noticed that too ?? good, I was starting to doubt it.. it has exactly the same feel of how it's used in Fringe too, even with background music for some of the sad moments.. makes me wonder if they did use Fringe's music :P

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  29. klutzy_girlOctober 30, 2011 at 6:41 PM

    Just watched. I liked it. Honestly surprised the girlfriend didn't get killed, but let's be serious here. It's coming eventually.

    It's dark, which is what I like. I liked the werewolf guy. He should come back.

    This and Once Upon A Time are based around fairy tales, but have vastly different takes on them. They shouldn't be compared.

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  30. Alexandra BauerOctober 30, 2011 at 6:52 PM

    I agree with klutzy_girl that you can´t compare Once upon a Time with Grimm, because the first looks at the Fairy Tales in a Disney kind of way and Grimm tries to show how they were originally written (they were very brutal and scary).

    I have to say I liked the Pilot, but I can´t say much more because it was JUST a Pilot. I will wait and see how the Characters and Storyline develop.

    I somehow find it hilarious that they use german words for the Creatures. The Wolf gets the Speciesname Blutbad (Bloodbath) and the Hexenbiest (Witchbeast). I will look out for more interesting names like that ^^

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  31. Felidae82October 30, 2011 at 9:26 PM

    Pretty good , liked the reformed werewolf ;) and even so I´m from germany, I had some problems to understand the german names for the creatures ^^ like "Blutbad" they pronounce the names really funny ;) in my opinion !

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  32. prpleightOctober 31, 2011 at 4:58 AM

    The bookends with Sweet Dreams was kind of cool.  I loved that the aunt...obviously sick and walking with a cane was pretty darned impressive in that street fight.

    It was okay.  I think that, while David Giuntoli is a good actor, he doesn't have the presence to be the lead of this show.   I need interesting characters to get me to keep tuning into a show, especially one that isn't new story territory.  (If this gets compared to Buffy, it's well deserved.)  His performance and character was flat and same old same old. He just didn't pop off the screen.  He's not one of those actors who takes 'not much' in the script and make something out of it on the screen' kind of actor.  Russell Hornseby (his partner) and Silas Weir Mitchell both made a stronger more interesting mark than David Giuntoli did.  

    Nick accepted his new role in life with barely a blink.  That bugged me and helped keep the character feeling flat and two dimensional.  The attempt on the aunt's life indicated a potentially interesting long term story arc, but the rest of the ep was predictable and not massively interesting.

    I found myself thinking it as pretty short sighted for the aunt to tell Nick to drop his girlfriend/potential fiance.  The world is protected by someone with a power passed through the family line.   In order for the world to continue to be protected the family line has to continue.  Nick has to sire babies.

    The show just didn't excite me.

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  33. SandiOctober 31, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    I voted OK, which to be fair was much higher than I was expecting to think of it.  Once Upon a Time is more my kinda deal, but to be fair this concept works better than I thought it would too.  My main problem was the acting if I'm honest, esp the 2 main leads and the wolf helper guy.  Of those three I can only recall ever seeing Eddie (I think that was his name?) from My Name is Earl, and he seemed to be pretty such the same as I remember from that.

    The other hurdle I hope it can over come is that it felt a lot like Nick the Supernatural Fairytale Slayer, rather than something entirely new.  I think it's going to break that mould and find it's feet pretty quickly if it doesn't want those kind of comparisons, I feel it could be so much more than that and I hope it succeeds.

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  34. SandiOctober 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    I love Sweet Dreams, but found it an odd song choice as there are other more modern songs they could have gone with that would maybe resonate more clearly with their demo audience.  Then after Nick discovered the Ipod still playing the same tune hours and hours later, I thought to myself, I bet they close with the Manson's version while some baddies scheme up a diabolical plot of evil and terror........

    I hate being able to guess such simple techniques in a show, that's another thing that this series needs to over come if I'm gonna carry on watching.

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  35. DarqueModeOctober 31, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Very true sabot the music..
    I wondered why it was on infinite repeat too... I guess it saved them some licensing fees? XD

    Mostly the thing I like was that it was not classic rock or dub-step. XD I just never liked classic rock even before it was classic and it was just rock. and so many shows use techno for action scenes, while it does have a good beat and pace for running... I just am not a fan. 

    It was fairly predictable although I did not think someone would be out to kill Aunt Marie as she lay in a coma... At least not in the pilot still!  

    I'm ot sold on it just yet, but it is my type of show. More dark, I like the score music, they seem to be aware of their VFX limitations and film in a way to mask them - much like Buffy used to or Supernatural does now. All in all I thought it was one of the best starting pieces for a new series this year. Not the best show at all, but the pilot worked for me I guess. Now if they can just make the 2 detectives less boring!

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  36. SandiOctober 31, 2011 at 11:28 PM

    haha yeah, they seemed to be lacking that spark you come to expect from the leads actors.  They need to start carrying the show rather than settling back and let it happen around them, or they won't draw an audience in fully.

    I guessed that the song was on repeat so that it would stick in the minds of the audience for when the other version started at the end of the episode.  But I guess licence fees could well have played a part too XD

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