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Supernatural - Episode 7.02 - Hello Cruel World - Sneak Peek

Sep 26, 2011

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64 comments:

  1. klutzy_girlSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM

    asldfkjasdlkfjasdlfkjasldkjfalskdjfas f POOR SAMMY! THIS IS EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED.

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  2. Lady OniSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:49 PM

    oh Sammy!

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  3. Kari ShelnuttSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:50 PM

    oOOOOOoooooo

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  4. Spn Tentation FC ®September 26, 2011 at 8:58 PM

    SAMMY! :O

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  5. Matan BaharSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:04 PM

    The screws in his head are going looser and looser...

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  6. Justine KubicaSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:10 PM

    Poor Sam, I hope Dean will be able to calm him down and help him!

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  7. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:11 PM

    Oh that's awesome.

    Luci-Dean: "Oh look, another me!"

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  8. moonvampSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:12 PM

    My only question is what is the difference between Dean in hell and Sammy in the Cage?  Dean made it.  What the heck is going on w/Sammy?  Would love to see Sam smile once in a while.  Oh and his shirt off.  

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  9. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:13 PM

    ...I thought we'd established it was because the cage with Lucifer and Michael make's Dean's stay in the pit look mildly uncomfortable in contrast.

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  10. klutzy_girlSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:14 PM

    Plus, Sam was there for a whole lot longer and tortured in different ways. He got fucked up so much worse, I think.

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  11. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:15 PM

    Yeah, 40 years in hell was just a few months topside, so guess how long Sammy was in the cage while being stuck over an entire year in the cage?

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  12. browniegirl27September 26, 2011 at 9:18 PM

    It looks like Sam shouldn't be hunting.  He's a danger to himself, Dean and others, at the moment anyway.

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  13. KatiSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    Well, I do agree that Sam's stay was longer and he was tortured more - on the other hand, Dean was forced to torture other people, for someone as self-sacrificing as him... So, I would say it wasn't a worse torture, just a different one. The demons simply knew what to use to break each brother. Dean's breakdown - see On the Head of Pin etc. - was simply different than Sam's.

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  14. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:32 PM

     A year and a half is 18 months, so 180 years...

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  15. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:34 PM

    Do you hear those cracking sounds? That's my heart breaking for poor Sam... Seriously, my eyes teared up when I watched this. He sounds so desperately lost and frightened with the his voice breaks when he says "I thought I was with you, Dean." Seriously, Jared... I've NEVER seen Sam like this. He's played Sam in so many different, amazing ways but seeing him truly lost and terrified and not knowing what's real or what's not, this is going to be a treat. I've been waiting for this for a very long time! We're FINALLY getting it! And I know I'm going to cry! LOL ^^;

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  16. Michele KlingerSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM

    I'm really scared for Sammy :(

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  17. RachelSeptember 26, 2011 at 9:56 PM

    That was pretty much my reaction too.  poor Sammy.  :'(  but at least we get to see Jared do such an amazing job acting.

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  18. chris684September 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM

    Looks intense!  This should be good.

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  19. Mia494September 26, 2011 at 10:22 PM

    and Dean couldn't take it anymore and broke after 30... so yeah, go figure. Poor Sammy.

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  20. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:27 PM

    I totally agree with you. Jared's acting is phenomenal. We've seen him play so many sides of Sam. We've seen angry!Sam, we've seen happy/laughing/smiling/prankster!Sam, we've seen truly distraught!Sam, grieving!Sam, suicidal!Sam, drunk!Sam, possessed!Sam, demon blood!Sam, powers!Sam, soulless!Sam, Hell-damaged!Sam, and now we're going to see a truly terrified, broken-down, weakened side of Sam and we have honestly never seen this before. I can't wait to see how Jared portrays this for us.

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  21. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:27 PM

    Hmm... I'm not quite sure how to take your comment. Are you being condescending?

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  22. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:33 PM

    Well, the difference between Sam's stay and Dean's is that Sammy didn't have Alastair waiting on him every day with a choice to get off the rack. If given the choice it's possible that Sam might've done that himself. But he was in a different place...

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  23. Mia494September 26, 2011 at 10:33 PM

    of course not! (if "condescending" means what I think it does :P) I just wanted to complete your thought with pointing out that even 30 years is too much to bare so 180, as you say, must have been unbelievably horrible.

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  24. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:37 PM

    Dean wasn't forced to torture people...that was the whole trick about free will, he had to CHOOSE, now of course the incentive was to not get ripped to shreds for the rest of eternity... 

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  25. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:39 PM

    I'm sorry. My apologies... I've been dealing with a lot of condescending comments from people toward Sam, and I just couldn't tell if you were being that way or not. Again, I'm sorry. ^^;

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  26. tvmonkeySeptember 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM

    I agree, I hate that fans are trying to one up each other over who had the worse hell experience. They were both terrible and both very different. I agree with what we know about Dean him stepping off the rack and torturing souls is the worst kind of hell he could experience. I believe that's the part of hell that tortures him to this day. For Sam well we're about to find out but I've always seen Sam's hell as more psychological especially with Lucifer there taunting Sam about himself and his family and just ripping away at the things that make Sam who he is.

    Dean girls and Sam girls fighting over which one had it worse is just a bit sick and a bit sad, grow up. You don't see Sam and Dean sitting there arguing over whose hell was worse, who has the most guilt, who has the most pain do you?!

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  27. tvmonkeySeptember 26, 2011 at 10:42 PM

    I think anyone would have hence the reason souls that go to hell get turned into demons.

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  28. KatiSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:55 PM

    If you applied your "free will" theory to the dot, robberies, rapes etc. couldn't be considered "forced" or even crimes - the victims were complying of their own "free will", after all. Try telling them they could have let the perp bash their head or shoot them...

    Also, considering forced means, among other things, "to put undue strain on..." And free will means "the power of making free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstance", I don't think your theory pans out.

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  29. chris684September 26, 2011 at 10:55 PM

    I wish this comparison would stop coming up because I don't think this says anything about which brother is stronger than the other (which is always the intent of the poster who brings it up), but anyway ... they're using a lot of rape references with Sam.  Sam was stuck in the worst part of Hell with two sadistic archangels who could get inside his head and who really wanted to make him pay.  Dean was in a different part of hell.  His torture was described as more physical. He said once he could dream in Hell, so in a sense he kept his own personal space inside his head.  The purpose behind Dean's torture was to cultivate all of Dean's pent up resentment to get him to start torturing others out of his own free will, so that the seal would be broken.  With Sam the purpose of the torture was just sadistic - Luci and Michael amused themselves with his pain.

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  30. xLiesjSeptember 26, 2011 at 10:56 PM

    I was wondering where in the episode this scene takes place. I'm guessing at the beginning of the episode, since most sneakpeaks do. It would make sense, Sammy would'n just take off without Dean in a situation like that (dealing with Cas) On the other hand, who knows what he'd do in a mental state like that...

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  31. lola dSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:02 PM

     sammy oh my god

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  32. jensenfan1978September 26, 2011 at 11:08 PM

    Whoa!!!  I can hardly wait!!!!  Perfect!!  

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  33. Mia494September 26, 2011 at 11:08 PM

    don't worry, Dean might be my favourite Winchester, but I still love Sammy to pieces ;)

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  34. jensenfan1978September 26, 2011 at 11:13 PM

    Dean was only in hell for four months.  Sam was in there for well over a year.  Dean dealt with Alistair and other demons.  Sam had a cage with Lucifer and  God's angelic general, the archangel Michael.  Can you only imagine?  Dean's was bad because he broke down and tortured, breaking the first. Sam had no such offer.  He had to  go through so much more.  Dean was shattered, yes, but his soul wasn't ripped from his body.  Sam is not whole because his brain is split into different psyche's.  He's not whole, not stable. Dean may have mental and psychological trauma, but Sam's soul was shredded.  Dean's was intact.  Big difference.

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  35. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:16 PM

    But that's just the thing. Sam didn't take off on his own. He thought he was WITH Dean... turns out he wasn't. He's been with a hallucination of Lucifer.

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  36. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:16 PM

    You explained it exactly the same way I would have. 

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  37. jensenfan1978September 26, 2011 at 11:17 PM

    No and you won't.  Dean just knows that Sam has faced terrible horrors and pain, because he did.  He's knows it won't the same.  He just wants to be there because he understand.s.  I'm so tired of  splitting the apart and trying to make one thing than another.  I agree with you one hundred per cent.  Dean's was different.  Sam's was different but they both Hell and Hell is personal.  Thanks for saying what you said.

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  38. chris684September 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM

    Someone being robbed does have the choice to hand over their money or resist and risk being harmed.  That doesn't stop the robbery from being a crime or the person a victim.

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  39. jensenfan1978September 26, 2011 at 11:26 PM

    Jared is fantastic and Jensen, as Dean, will be the perfect foil for this.  they know each other so well, and how to play off the other.  Dean loves his brother.  This is going to be difficult.  How do you put something this back together ?  

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  40. xLiesjSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:27 PM

    Exactly. This could be the reason Sam just vanished at the end of the previous episode.
    But then again, I could be all wrong. In the other promo's Sam looks relatively normal, at least not as freaked out as in this sneakpeak, so it could also be at the end of the episode. I really  have no idea...

    We'll just have to wait and see...

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  41. SammyWsGirlSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:29 PM

     Right, but the point that I'm trying to make is that to Sam, he didn't think he WAS alone. Sam thought he was with Dean, so to Sam, he didn't take off all by himself. He thought he was with his brother.

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  42. Bruce_FSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:36 PM

    You wanted a hapless, confused mess for a character?  Someone who is strongly dependent on others because he can't recognize reality?  That seems a bit cruel.

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  43. xLiesjSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:41 PM

    Uhuh, I know that. It's the same point as I was trying to make. Hum, I guess I have to work on my English a little bit, since it's not my native language.

    Ah well, It doesn't really matter, does it?

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  44. jillyanneSeptember 26, 2011 at 11:57 PM

    As per usual in the last few seasons, Jared seems to cope so amazingly with what the writers are giving him. As a rewatched Season 1 - 6 over hellatus I realized how much he's learned since those early days.

    This clip is truly terrifying

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  45. Debbie CombsSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:35 AM

    For an episode or four, I think it is great. I love damaged Winchesters. These guys act the crap out of it and I love to have my heartstrings tugged... I don't want to have that much angst for too long... which is why Season 5 was so hard to take... But, a quick burst is just my cup of tea.

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  46. Bruce_FSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:39 AM

    I agree.  That's quite understandable, Debbie.  It's the "everything I ever wanted" part of her post I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around.

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  47. lostrocks4everSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:42 AM

    omg amazing!!!
    so excited!!
    and great to see the impala back in good shape

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  48. Chanelle MontpetitSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:46 AM

    LOVIN IT! aw i cant wait

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  49. DahneSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:47 AM

    I am probably the biggest detractor of Lucifer on this site.  I hated every minute of Weeping Satan and I thought he was the lamest main villain in Supernatural history.  But this....this Lucifer....he rocks!  He's so sadistic and matter of factly evil that I can't help being in turns scared and fascinated.  If only they had made the character this intense in season 5.

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  50. DahneSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:50 AM

    I am very excited to see how the Winchester clan "fixes" Sam's hellcinations, but I agree.  I would love to have this wrapped after a couple of episodes so we can concentrate on the Leviathans.  Here's hoping he builds himself back up quickly.

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  51. jillyanneSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:52 AM

    I could not have said it better :D

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  52. Ell1sonSeptember 27, 2011 at 2:29 AM

    i get that people want sams hellucinations wrapped up faster, but it would'nt really make sense if they were as death said they could kill him

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  53. Wilson CrawfordSeptember 27, 2011 at 3:21 AM

    I wouldn't think that's the case since he's in "the cage" that's supposed to be cut off from all the other demons... so yeah....

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  54. Debbie CombsSeptember 27, 2011 at 4:06 AM

    I would think Dean will be able to talk Sam down from the majority of his hellucinations within the next episode; convince him to at least give the non-Hell reality a chance.

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  55. Debbie CombsSeptember 27, 2011 at 4:10 AM

    I can't imagine putting up with torture even a day (heck an hour)... It makes me feel sick to think of how long Dean held out. There are theories that John was given the same choice and held out for the entire year, but my guess has always been that he was never given the choice. He wasn't the righteous man... it always had to be Sam & Dean. Just because a demon says they thought it would be John, doesn't mean that it was the truth. If John was on the rack being tortured, he never would have been able to escape.

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  56. Debbie CombsSeptember 27, 2011 at 4:18 AM

    Agreed, but I still think they won't let it hang on too long. He will get a handful of episodes then they have to move on... Dean got a couple in season 4, then just little snippets of information here and there until On the Head of a Pin... It will probably be something similar for Sam. A big freakout here in the beginning... then a couple of short brother moments trying to deal with it... and an episode with a bit more impact to pretty much wrap it up. Tons of fans love these brotherly moments brought on by dealing with serious emotional issues... but many others abhor non-action sequences... There are even fans that don't like the funny episodes, which I just don't understand :-) I live for the funny episodes... OK, I also live for the angsty episodes and the scary episodes and the....

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  57. Annalisa NardiSeptember 27, 2011 at 8:35 AM

    Poor sammy >.<

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  58. Monika Thommen-AckleSeptember 27, 2011 at 1:12 PM

    thanks for your view. I really enjoyed readin it and you really have a point there. It^s always so refreshing to hear other people's POV's It adds to one's own. *kuddos*

    Just one thing. After the bible, wern't the four archangels Michael, Raphael, Gabriel (He told Maria that she was pregnant of God's child, rather ironic, imaging it bein 'our' Gabe) and Uriel?

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  59. Felidae82September 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM

    Poor Sammy ! I wish it would be friday right now

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  60. CharlySeptember 27, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    Wooah. Can't believe this entire discussion is about: :dean was in the pit for only 4 months, whereas sam...., yea but dean..."

    I love both characters and storylines so I am not a sam or dean girl but i dont think it's necessarily about which one had it worse. I like to believe it's about the extent the prodcuers and writer's are addressing the guy's experiences. Whereas Dean was pretty much able to cope with his guilty feelings and memories after a little while, Sam's been dealing with it for a while now (mid season 6- now/mid season 7?).

    As far as I'm concerned, I don't really like the fact that both characters went to hell, but I love what they make out of it..

    As for the Sam and Dean girls out there: we all know it's not about who suffers the most, but I do understand that some of you guys maybe wanted to see more "dean- related" hell stories.

    Just let the dean girls be sad/disappointed about, compared to the significance of this experience, a rather short story arc and let the sam girls be happy about an intense and thrilling story arc...

    In case I am wrong and it actually IS about who is suffering the most, keep in mind that it's gonna be a tough season 7 for Dean because of what's happening with Sam (and vice versa in seaon 4) :):))))

    There's going to be enough sorrow, pain and drama for both of them.

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  61. CharlySeptember 27, 2011 at 5:27 PM

    doesn't matter at all. Don't worry about it.

    I often find it difficult to communicate with other non-native speakers bc every country has it's own "English dialect", (there's spanglish, denglish, frenglish etc... :)) but your english is pretty good.

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  62. Kayleigh R. DeGolierSeptember 28, 2011 at 7:57 PM

    Thanks for the kudos and glad ya enjoyed. :)

    On the subject of archangels it all depends on the text and religion which you are referencing. In Roman Catholic only 3 archangels are actually revered by name as they are the only three specifically called by name as archangels in the Bible. These three are Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael (in order of mention in the scriptures). And when Raphael identifies himself it is in Tobit 12:15 "I am Raphael, one of the seven angels who stand and serve before the Glory of the Lord." Of these 7 mentioned archangels only the 3 that are named are recognized as canonical by the roman catholic church. The other four are mentioned in the Book of Enoch as Uriel, Raguel, Sariel, and Jerahmeel. The Fourth Book of Esdras also mentions Uriel and it is in this way that in the West it is often popular to believe there are 4 archangels, the 3 Roman canonical angels and Uriel.

    In Eastern Orthadox it is said there are thousands of archangels but only 7 are mentioned by name: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Sealtiel, Jegudiel, and Brarachiel. The Protastants only recognize Michael and Gabriel as archangels and many other Christian religions including the Jehova's Witnesses and Later day Saints only believe in Michael as they interpret archangel to mean Chief Angel and therefore there can only be one. Also the JW's believe that Michael is the Heavenly name of Jesus Christ. In Islam there are many archangels with many roles but Gabriel or Jibril is the one most revered because he speaks to Prophets and revealed the Qur'an to Mohamed.

    So it's actually false by any Christian religious canon to believe there are four archangels (even the Catholics mention 7 but only recognize 3). That belief actually most likely stems from neo-pagan, and occultist teachings where the four archangels represent the 4 elements or seasons and the four directions. In the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram the invocation includes the words "Before me Raphael; Behind me
    Gabriel; On my right hand Michael; On my left hand Uriel..."  And in anthroposophy, archangels may be good or evil; all beings who do not
    follow the cosmic evolution become a source of evil. A type of spiritual
    force are beneficial during a specific period. In the following period,
    another spiritual activity begins and earlier forces become inapropriate, this
    is the birth of evil. This has always led me to believe that the SPN creators do not use Christian doctrine to inform their views of angels, demons, and Heaven and Hell but rather occult and popular culture (Milton & Dante) views.

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  63. MissySeptember 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

    poor sammy.

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  64. jensenfan1978October 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM

    Dean was only in hell for four months.  Sam was in there for well over a year.  Dean dealt with Alistair and other demons.  Sam had a cage with Lucifer and  God's angelic general, the archangel Michael.  Can you only imagine?  Dean's was bad because he broke down and tortured, breaking the first. Sam had no such offer.  He had to  go through so much more.  Dean was shattered, yes, but his soul wasn't ripped from his body.  Sam is not whole because his brain is split into different psyche's.  He's not whole, not stable. Dean may have mental and psychological trauma, but Sam's soul was shredded.  Dean's was intact.  Big difference.

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