For Fringe: I am glad we don't have to wait too long, but I also know better than if "so and so" appears, doesn't mean that things will go back to the way they were...
Wow. Ask Ausiello was bone dry this week. What a bunch of nothing.
The big scoop this week: Serena is being dishonest to Dan (again) on Gossip Girl.
If that's all he's got it must be a slow scoop week.
The Supernatural, Castle, Rookie Blue, and Fringe "scoop" was actually anti-scoop. In each of those questions Ausiello told us absolutely nothing of value.
Private Practice- Charlotte and Coop wont have a child at least together, m sure Coop already has a kid. Glee- no big news there and House- i just wanna know whos the new dean is.
:) Is it normal that knowing pretty much nothing about next season on SPN is really getting me excited??? Everyone is working so Damn hard to keep everything secret, look like it's something REALLY big. Last time they tried so hard to hide something, it's was Cas, in lazarus Rising :)
It's making the Helliatus harder, longer...but it's going to make the season 7 so more interesting :)
We got better Mark Sheppard news for Sterling than Crowley. It's lovely to know that all of these actors and writers and producers can say "We're not saying anything." in 500 words or more. If it's as big as they are making it sound, I'm kind of glad nothing has leaked yet. It feels like we are in for one wild ride with season 7.
The "wait and see" attitude in interviews is starting to heighten my anticipation too. I'm more excited about season 7 than I have been at this point in the last 2 seasons.
It's good to know that Crowley will be on Supernatural. I like his comment on Castiel being "Better you than me." That would be so typical of Crowley who tried so hard to get those souls, and now realizes that maybe it wasn't a good idea.
I sure hope so. I so sick and tired of people who are saying that it had better be good and that Season was poorly written. I did not like all of Season 6, but dang, there hasn't been a single season where some of the stories weren't liked. For the most part, season six wasn't bad, except that the writers need to learn Dean's personality They had him doing and saying things totally out of character. Even that was not as bad as some made it out to be.If they get the boys down this year, it ought to be good.
I remember that in some interview John Noble said that writers prepared 9 episode story line. Last year there were 9 episodes aired before Christmas hiatus. Maybe they`ll retrurn Peter as a Christmas present for us :-D.
Last year there was 8 episode story line about Olivia being stuck on the other side and trying to return back. So I think Peter is going to come back in the 9th episode this season. But it`s just a guess so don`t take it too seriously :-D
I already figured they wouldn't go the whole season without Peter, it just wouldn't work and the ratings would be so horrible there'd be no chance of a season 5. From what I've heard (well what every Fringe fan has heard) we won't be waiting long for the return of the illusive Peter.
As for the House and SPN spoilers - meh so done with those shows :(
why serena have always to being dishonest with Dan?! -.- he doesn't deserve it :(
I'm happy that we don't have to wait too much to see Peter Bishop again in Fringe *____* and less happy that we won't see Dan Akroyd on Castle....what a shame :((
HOUSE : After the fantastic interview of Hugh Laurie last monday, mystery is going on...
" Now for some FRESH House scoop: The opening teaser of the Oct. 10 episode will be unlike anything you’ve seen on House before. Heck, I’ll go so far as to say it’s unlike anything you’ve seen on TV before."
They need to learn Dean's personality and create a personality for Sam. I think you'd be hearing a lot more people saying that Sam acted out of character except that I don't think anyone knows what Sam's character is anymore. He started off as independent Sam, then was Ghandi Sam, had moments of angry Sam, became obsessive Sam, then became demon blood Sam. After Lucifer was freed he was redemption Sam, he came back sociopathic soulless Sam, became funny soulless Sam for a few episodes, got his soul back and became passive Sam, and who knows where we ended up. To be honest, I'm a little jealous that Dean fans have a baseline to measure this against.
I don't understand why you say Sam has no character or personality. For me, every Sam you mentioned (except RoboSam which I wish I could forget) was a natural progression of the Sam I was introduced in season 1. For me, he has evolved as a character but not in the "good" direction; that's still growth. There are people like that in real life.
Also, the same could be said about Dean, starting from the end of season 2 and skyrocketing in season 6. Dean was introduced with a fire for life and hunting, he chose the PiP over his family and most importantly he was willing and able to let Sam go on multiple occasions. But after that wretched deal the writers slowly but surely made Dean meek and unable to leave Sam and laser focused on Sam's problem of the week. So, as with Sam, Dean also evolved but in not a very "good" direction. In my opinion, in the hands of a lesser actor, Dean would have been completely unrecognisable from the one we were introduced. For me, he is the only reason Dean was able to be mostly in character (on screen, not on text -the text for Dean was godawful) the first half of season 6.
Upon rereading my comment, I fear it could be perceived as argumentative or inflammatory. What I meant to say is that both brothers have changed quite a lot since the series started (which I find natural) but I think they have changed in a slightly bad direction.
For me (and depending on how the writers decide to deal with the issue of Castiel), the are on the verge of becoming hypocrites. Personally, I took Dean and Sam's dismay about Castiel working with Crowley not as hypocritical but as speaking from experience and not wanting their friend to make the same mistakes they did. How they deal with the aftermath is what will make or break the characters for me. Unfortunately, I don't have much hope (if any) left for the writers... We'll just have to wait and see I guess...
I didn't read your post as inflammatory. What I meant with Sam wasn't that he didn't have a personality in earlier seasons, but that he's been all over the map. I expect the characters to grow and change, but there has been very little in terms of core personality traits (other than superficial ones such as his attachment to his laptop, the puppy dog eyes, and his taste for heathy food) that have remained through the seasons.
Childhood Sam and season 1 Sam was someone who questioned things and was very goal driven. He questioned the way his father raised them very early in life and often questioned the right and wrong with what they did as hunters. I would have liked to have seen him questioning more in season 6 -- for example questioning their response toward Castiel, which didn't include listening to Cas. I would have expected Sam to raise an alarm when Dean went off on a demon torture spree in LiB (torturing is to Dean what demon blood is to Sam). We did see Sam question Dean's decision to erase Lisa/Ben's memories -- but it seemed to be only because he was going through amnesia himself, not because he was questioning the ethics of erasing someone else's memories. In season 1 his goal was to have a normal life. While I understand why he doesn't have that goal anymore, I would expect the drive that he applied toward that goal to be transferred elsewhere, but I don't even know what his goal is anymore.
A lot of Sam's (post-season 1) character development was about making a connection to Lucifer, and I thought they did a reasonably good job of slowly building Sam's addiction to demon blood. But now that Lucifer is out of the picture, and a lot of Sam's earlier personality traits have been dropped, that leaves me wondering who Sam is now. For example, is his natural state angry Sam or Ghandi Sam?
I have to disagree with you about the Cas reaction not being hypocritical. That might be true if they weren't still teaming up with demons or other sketchy supernatural creatures whenever they get in a tight situation, but they're still doing it (this season Crowley, Meg, and Death for a short list), and there's even a debate on a different post here on whether they'll be working with Crowley again next season. A better reaction for Dean would have been for the deal to have set off alarms because of his past experiences, but Dean realizing that people (himself included) get into these deals when they feel backed into a corner, and a rational discussion about the alternative solutions would be a better approach. The response -- don't do it just because I'm telling you not to -- sounds more like a parent talking to a child rather than a person talking to a friend.
I'm going to disagree on a couple of points here. I don't think Dean ever chose the PiP over family. There were a couple of instances at the end of season 1 in which Dean chose saving his family over a chance to kill YED (using one of the last few bullets to save Sam and encouraging Sam not to shoot YED when he was in John). YED was killing a lot of people, so Dean chose family first. I also didn't see Dean become "meek" after the deal, or "laser focused on Sam's problem of the week." When Sam was developing an addiction to demon blood, and when Sam was soulless, Dean took it seriously, just like Sam took Dean selling his soul in season 3 very seriously. I think it was more that their problems grew more serious as the seasons went on, and yes, they became more dependent on each other. In Sam's case, he had lost his connections to a normal life, so his need to save Dean grew. In Dean's, he never really had a normal life, so he was always very focused on his father and brother.
"I don't think Dean ever chose the PiP over family"
In Scarecrow he left Sam to find their dad but he chose to try and save the people from the pagan God. In Salvation he chose to go to the family YED was targeting instead of John. In Crossroad Blues he chose Ethan over letting his dad out of hell. So yes, he used to choose the PiP over his family, depending on who was in a more immediate threatening situation.
"In Sam's case, he had lost his connections to a normal life, so his need to save Dean grew"
That doesn't exactly paint Sam's feelings towards Dean in a very positive light in my eyes. But I guess everyone has a different perspective to interpret actions. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong!
I guess, I just don't see Sam's personality as all over the place. The core characteristics I saw in season 1, I still continue to see to this season. It's just that at some point some will be amplified according to the situation. I find this very normal. You can't handle, I think, every situation in the same manner. You will do what you think will be more successful. My problem with Sam is that, yes, he revealed some of the darker aspects of his personality, but he did nothing to change or moderate them. So I, as a viewer, operate under the assumption that they are always there and will resurface when there is "need" for them. I believe that if you do something that results in the need to atone, if you don't change the things that brought you there in the first place (I'm not talking about the external influence here), odds are you will find yourself again down that road. Again, this is something I derive from my experience and there is no right or wrong way to look at it.
As for the Castiel issue, I guess we'll have to disagree. My interpretation was that what was most hurtful (and I should have mentioned it in my original post) was the lying. Many fans seem to forget that Castiel was doing that for TWO years and it was because of that lying that Dean was humiliated into working with Crowley (Castiel also worked with Meg, not just the W.) when he could have just admitted the truth in order to avoid all that. And he, just like Sam, were caught in that lie; they had no intentions of revealing their misgivings until they could return "victorious" so to speak. So I'm sorry but in season 6 Castiel, for me, has no moral ground to stand on. Neither have the brothers,, mind you (again for me) but I just don't understand the sudden "sainthood" of Castiel.
In my opinion, Sam, Dean and Castiel have all lied and they've all done things they needed to atone for (drinking demon blood, becoming a torturer and liking it, and lying to and killing "brothers"). I'm not sure what more you would have expected from Sam. I think gaining self-awareness is a huge step in changing behavior patterns. But with that said, I also think there's a darkness, as well as goodness, in humans. I hope they never become saints because that would be very unrealistic and make for a boring TV show. Plus, Sam atoned by voluntarily jumping into the cage. What more could you want?
I never made the argument that Cas was a saint. I argued that Cas's actions weren't very different from those of Sam and Dean in the past, and yes, there was hypocrisy in the reactions of Sam, Dean, and Bobby in refusing to recognize that.
I should clarify. When I said "chose" PiPs, I was talking about to save PiPs over chosing to save family. In Scarecrow, Sam wasn't in danger. He was just going to California. Dean chose his own path, which was following John's orders. In Crossroad Blues, I'm a little fuzzy on this, but didn't the deal also include selling his own soul? That doesn't mean he wouldn't have done what he could to save his father that didn't involve making another deal with a demon.
As for the Sam comment, letting people go when they die is part of life. When I made that comment I was thinking of Mystery Spot and Sam's obsession with trying to save Dean. Sam would have always tried to save Dean just as Dean would have tried to save Sam, but I was referring to the obsessive need they seemed to have for each other as the seasons progressed - which often led to making deals with demons and other Supernatural creatures which they knew would just lead to more trouble down the road.
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For Fringe: I am glad we don't have to wait too long, but I also know better than if "so and so" appears, doesn't mean that things will go back to the way they were...
ReplyDeleteI love Mark Sheppard! Just thinking about him makes me smile!
ReplyDeleteMark Sheppard is the man. He even makes spoilers more fun.
ReplyDeleteWow. Ask Ausiello was bone dry this week. What a bunch of nothing.
ReplyDeleteThe big scoop this week:
Serena is being dishonest to Dan (again) on Gossip Girl.
If that's all he's got it must be a slow scoop week.
The Supernatural, Castle, Rookie Blue, and Fringe "scoop" was actually anti-scoop. In each of those questions Ausiello told us absolutely nothing of value.
Private Practice- Charlotte and Coop wont have a child at least together, m sure Coop already has a kid.
ReplyDeleteGlee- no big news there and House- i just wanna know whos the new dean is.
:) Is it normal that knowing pretty much nothing about next season on SPN is really getting me excited??? Everyone is working so Damn hard to keep everything secret, look like it's something REALLY big. Last time they tried so hard to hide something, it's was Cas, in lazarus Rising :)
ReplyDeleteIt's making the Helliatus harder, longer...but it's going to make the season 7 so more interesting :)
So true - I can't even be bothered to post this over on SPNAsylum. Waste of my important "#Supernatural couch day" time. :)
ReplyDeleteWe got better Mark Sheppard news for Sterling than Crowley. It's lovely to know that all of these actors and writers and producers can say "We're not saying anything." in 500 words or more. If it's as big as they are making it sound, I'm kind of glad nothing has leaked yet. It feels like we are in for one wild ride with season 7.
ReplyDeleteThe "wait and see" attitude in interviews is starting to heighten my anticipation too. I'm more excited about season 7 than I have been at this point in the last 2 seasons.
ReplyDelete:) that only mean one thing....
ReplyDeleteIt's time to get out my favorite video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSK0qiiV0-g
It's good to know that Crowley will be on Supernatural. I like his comment on Castiel being "Better you than me." That would be so typical of Crowley who tried so hard to get those souls, and now realizes that maybe it wasn't a good idea.
ReplyDeleteAt least he didn't try to make something up like Kristin did. Her little take was infuriating. And proved she knew nothing.
ReplyDeleteBWAH!! Thanks so much for sharing this video. I'm tired, cranky, and ill but this video made me laugh. I really needed that.
ReplyDeleteI sure hope so. I so sick and tired of people who are saying that it had better be good and that Season was poorly written. I did not like all of Season 6, but dang, there hasn't been a single season where some of the stories weren't liked. For the most part, season six wasn't bad, except that the writers need to learn Dean's personality They had him doing and saying things totally out of character. Even that was not as bad as some made it out to be.If they get the boys down this year, it ought to be good.
ReplyDelete:D you're welcome! That's why I'm back ;D
ReplyDeleteAlmost 76% of the waiting over! 80% will be over monday...We're getting there^^
I'll agree with that. It's better to be upfront about coming up empty than to try and make something out of nothing.
ReplyDeletecant wait for the new svu!!! :)
ReplyDeleteAwesome tidbits. Ausiello never disappoints.
ReplyDeleteOlivia: "I just want to go back to before."
ReplyDeleteBroyles: "Dunham, I don't think you can."
It's always different than what I think, so I'm not going to speculate but patiently wait for Sep 23. NOT! I want it now!
can't wait until September
ReplyDeleteI remember that in some interview John Noble said that writers prepared 9 episode story line. Last year there were 9 episodes aired before Christmas hiatus. Maybe they`ll retrurn Peter as a Christmas present for us :-D.
ReplyDeleteLast year there was 8 episode story line about Olivia being stuck on the other side and trying to return back. So I think Peter is going to come back in the 9th episode this season. But it`s just a guess so don`t take it too seriously :-D
I already figured they wouldn't go the whole season without Peter, it just wouldn't work and the ratings would be so horrible there'd be no chance of a season 5. From what I've heard (well what every Fringe fan has heard) we won't be waiting long for the return of the illusive Peter.
ReplyDeleteAs for the House and SPN spoilers - meh so done with those shows :(
why serena have always to being dishonest with Dan?! -.- he doesn't deserve it :(
ReplyDeleteI'm happy that we don't have to wait too much to see Peter Bishop again in Fringe *____*
and less happy that we won't see Dan Akroyd on Castle....what a shame :((
HOUSE : After the fantastic interview of Hugh Laurie last monday, mystery is going on...
ReplyDelete" Now for some FRESH House scoop: The opening teaser of the Oct. 10 episode will be unlike anything you’ve seen on House before. Heck, I’ll go so far as to say it’s unlike anything you’ve seen on TV before."
Pretty poor spoilers this weeks
ReplyDeletethanks!! interesting! Dorota's not pregnant! so, now, I don't know what to think!! :/
ReplyDeleteI so hope Olivia will be the first one to notice something is wrong and that she misses him soo bad
ReplyDeleteIt has to be Blair or Serena than I guess, bcause if I remeber correctly the test was in their trash.
ReplyDeleteyes... I suppose... but ugh... I hope it's Serena's and not Blair's!! :/
ReplyDeleteBummer spoilers
ReplyDeleteThey need to learn Dean's personality and create a personality for Sam. I think you'd be hearing a lot more people saying that Sam acted out of character except that I don't think anyone knows what Sam's character is anymore. He started off as independent Sam, then was Ghandi Sam, had moments of angry Sam, became obsessive Sam, then became demon blood Sam. After Lucifer was freed he was redemption Sam, he came back sociopathic soulless Sam, became funny soulless Sam for a few episodes, got his soul back and became passive Sam, and who knows where we ended up. To be honest, I'm a little jealous that Dean fans have a baseline to measure this against.
ReplyDeleteHow we ask a question to Ausiello? :S
ReplyDeletePlease, answer me!
I don't understand why you say Sam has no character or personality. For me, every Sam you mentioned (except RoboSam which I wish I could forget) was a natural progression of the Sam I was introduced in season 1. For me, he has evolved as a character but not in the "good" direction; that's still growth. There are people like that in real life.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the same could be said about Dean, starting from the end of season 2 and skyrocketing in season 6. Dean was introduced with a fire for life and hunting, he chose the PiP over his family and most importantly he was willing and able to let Sam go on multiple occasions. But after that wretched deal the writers slowly but surely made Dean meek and unable to leave Sam and laser focused on Sam's problem of the week. So, as with Sam, Dean also evolved but in not a very "good" direction. In my opinion, in the hands of a lesser actor, Dean would have been completely unrecognisable from the one we were introduced. For me, he is the only reason Dean was able to be mostly in character (on screen, not on text -the text for Dean was godawful) the first half of season 6.
Upon rereading my comment, I fear it could be perceived as argumentative or inflammatory. What I meant to say is that both brothers have changed quite a lot since the series started (which I find natural) but I think they have changed in a slightly bad direction.
ReplyDeleteFor me (and depending on how the writers decide to deal with the issue of Castiel), the are on the verge of becoming hypocrites. Personally, I took Dean and Sam's dismay about Castiel working with Crowley not as hypocritical but as speaking from experience and not wanting their friend to make the same mistakes they did. How they deal with the aftermath is what will make or break the characters for me. Unfortunately, I don't have much hope (if any) left for the writers... We'll just have to wait and see I guess...
I didn't read your post as inflammatory. What I meant with Sam wasn't that he didn't have a personality in earlier seasons, but that he's been all over the map. I expect the characters to grow and change, but there has been very little in terms of core personality traits (other than superficial ones such as his attachment to his laptop, the puppy dog eyes, and his taste for heathy food) that have remained through the seasons.
ReplyDeleteChildhood Sam and season 1 Sam was someone who questioned things and was very goal driven. He questioned the way his father raised them very early in life and often questioned the right and wrong with what they did as hunters. I would have liked to have seen him questioning more in season 6 -- for example questioning their response toward Castiel, which didn't include listening to Cas. I would have expected Sam to raise an alarm when Dean went off on a demon torture spree in LiB (torturing is to Dean what demon blood is to Sam). We did see Sam question Dean's decision to erase Lisa/Ben's memories -- but it seemed to be only because he was going through amnesia himself, not because he was questioning the ethics of erasing someone else's memories. In season 1 his goal was to have a normal life. While I understand why he doesn't have that goal anymore, I would expect the drive that he applied toward that goal to be transferred elsewhere, but I don't even know what his goal is anymore.
A lot of Sam's (post-season 1) character development was about making a connection to Lucifer, and I thought they did a reasonably good job of slowly building Sam's addiction to demon blood. But now that Lucifer is out of the picture, and a lot of Sam's earlier personality traits have been dropped, that leaves me wondering who Sam is now. For example, is his natural state angry Sam or Ghandi Sam?
I have to disagree with you about the Cas reaction not being hypocritical. That might be true if they weren't still teaming up with demons or other sketchy supernatural creatures whenever they get in a tight situation, but they're still doing it (this season Crowley, Meg, and Death for a short list), and there's even a debate on a different post here on whether they'll be working with Crowley again next season. A better reaction for Dean would have been for the deal to have set off alarms because of his past experiences, but Dean realizing that people (himself included) get into these deals when they feel backed into a corner, and a rational discussion about the alternative solutions would be a better approach. The response -- don't do it just because I'm telling you not to -- sounds more like a parent talking to a child rather than a person talking to a friend.
I'm going to disagree on a couple of points here. I don't think Dean ever chose the PiP over family. There were a couple of instances at the end of season 1 in which Dean chose saving his family over a chance to kill YED (using one of the last few bullets to save Sam and encouraging Sam not to shoot YED when he was in John). YED was killing a lot of people, so Dean chose family first. I also didn't see Dean become "meek" after the deal, or "laser focused on Sam's problem of the week." When Sam was developing an addiction to demon blood, and when Sam was soulless, Dean took it seriously, just like Sam took Dean selling his soul in season 3 very seriously. I think it was more that their problems grew more serious as the seasons went on, and yes, they became more dependent on each other. In Sam's case, he had lost his connections to a normal life, so his need to save Dean grew. In Dean's, he never really had a normal life, so he was always very focused on his father and brother.
ReplyDelete"I don't think Dean ever chose the PiP over family"
ReplyDeleteIn Scarecrow he left Sam to find their dad but he chose to try and save the people from the pagan God. In Salvation he chose to go to the family YED was targeting instead of John. In Crossroad Blues he chose Ethan over letting his dad out of hell. So yes, he used to choose the PiP over his family, depending on who was in a more immediate threatening situation.
"In Sam's case, he had lost his connections to a normal life, so his need to save Dean grew"
That doesn't exactly paint Sam's feelings towards Dean in a very positive light in my eyes. But I guess everyone has a different perspective to interpret actions. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong!
I guess, I just don't see Sam's personality as all over the place. The core characteristics I saw in season 1, I still continue to see to this season. It's just that at some point some will be amplified according to the situation. I find this very normal. You can't handle, I think, every situation in the same manner. You will do what you think will be more successful. My problem with Sam is that, yes, he revealed some of the darker aspects of his personality, but he did nothing to change or moderate them. So I, as a viewer, operate under the assumption that they are always there and will resurface when there is "need" for them. I believe that if you do something that results in the need to atone, if you don't change the things that brought you there in the first place (I'm not talking about the external influence here), odds are you will find yourself again down that road. Again, this is something I derive from my experience and there is no right or wrong way to look at it.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Castiel issue, I guess we'll have to disagree. My interpretation was that what was most hurtful (and I should have mentioned it in my original post) was the lying. Many fans seem to forget that Castiel was doing that for TWO years and it was because of that lying that Dean was humiliated into working with Crowley (Castiel also worked with Meg, not just the W.) when he could have just admitted the truth in order to avoid all that. And he, just like Sam, were caught in that lie; they had no intentions of revealing their misgivings until they could return "victorious" so to speak. So I'm sorry but in season 6 Castiel, for me, has no moral ground to stand on. Neither have the brothers,, mind you (again for me) but I just don't understand the sudden "sainthood" of Castiel.
In my opinion, Sam, Dean and Castiel have all lied and they've all done things they needed to atone for (drinking demon blood, becoming a torturer and liking it, and lying to and killing "brothers"). I'm not sure what more you would have expected from Sam. I think gaining self-awareness is a huge step in changing behavior patterns. But with that said, I also think there's a darkness, as well as goodness, in humans. I hope they never become saints because that would be very unrealistic and make for a boring TV show. Plus, Sam atoned by voluntarily jumping into the cage. What more could you want?
ReplyDeleteI never made the argument that Cas was a saint. I argued that Cas's actions weren't very different from those of Sam and Dean in the past, and yes, there was hypocrisy in the reactions of Sam, Dean, and Bobby in refusing to recognize that.
I should clarify. When I said "chose" PiPs, I was talking about to save PiPs over chosing to save family. In Scarecrow, Sam wasn't in danger. He was just going to California. Dean chose his own path, which was following John's orders. In Crossroad Blues, I'm a little fuzzy on this, but didn't the deal also include selling his own soul? That doesn't mean he wouldn't have done what he could to save his father that didn't involve making another deal with a demon.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Sam comment, letting people go when they die is part of life. When I made that comment I was thinking of Mystery Spot and Sam's obsession with trying to save Dean. Sam would have always tried to save Dean just as Dean would have tried to save Sam, but I was referring to the obsessive need they seemed to have for each other as the seasons progressed - which often led to making deals with demons and other Supernatural creatures which they knew would just lead to more trouble down the road.
cant wait to see these things
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