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Supernatural - Episode 7.03 - Episode Title & Snippets

28 Jun 2011

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Episode 7.03 of Supernatural will be called "The Girl Next Door"

A young girl called Amy is being cast for the episode who will appear in flashbacks of Sam. Sam saved her from being bullied when they were 15 years old. Later she saves Sam's life and is disappointed when he won't leave town with her.
In the present Amy is in her late 20s and has settled down with a job, a mortgage and an 11 year old son and is very surprised to see Sam again.

Also being cast is a possible recurring "terrifying hit man" in his 30s/40s who is described as "scary like Javier Bardem in "No Country For Old Men""
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455 comments:

  1. Denise27 June 2011 at 16:52

    what the hell is this first episode? what about Cas? O:

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  2. Shaula Dfn27 June 2011 at 16:55

    I think it's the episode that Jensen is directing or something. It doesn't sound like the Premiere to me.

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  3. LucAltaiR27 June 2011 at 16:57

    Agrees. Sounds like a filler that would better fit as episode third or fourth episode.

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  4. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 16:58

    Where and who is the source? Is this information even accurate?

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  5. Matan Bahar27 June 2011 at 17:05

    I agree, doesn't sound like the premiere. Porbably the Jensen-directed ep, since it's being shot first, but aired third

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  6. astronautt27 June 2011 at 17:07

    If this is true, it's set up to sound an awful lot like Sam's own personal Lisa... What happened to not wanting to be redundant? 

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  7. KatHale27 June 2011 at 17:19

    "The Girl Next Door"
    !?!?!?!?!
    Do we all remember the little issue in the finale,with Cas announcing he's the new GOD?!
    I hope it's not the premiere..

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  8. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 17:19

    Relax...it's one little sentence about the episode and they needed to do an episode without much Dean since Jensen is behind the camera. So it will be fine after that I'm sure

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  9. TV Spoilers27 June 2011 at 17:20

    Well if they're filming out of order then it probably isn't the first ep but the production code is #701 :)

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  10. jensenfan197827 June 2011 at 17:24

    Seriously, when has anything coming out this early been accurate?  How many false trails have we been given in the past?  I'll wait.  Jensen has been looking at the script  going over for how many days?  They start filming the first  episode up in how many weeks?  I doubt anything accurate has been leaked yet.  It's all hearsay.  They like to agitate us and send us off on tangents.  I'm not biting this year.

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  11. Dahne27 June 2011 at 17:24

    The episode shooting as 7.01 is the Jensen directed episode as confirmed by Jared's tweet.  It will air third.  No worries that this will be the season 7 premiere.

    My question is how he met up with her again LATER.  They moved so much it isn't like she grew up with Sam and we all know how John felt about returning to the same place.  Is Fate messing with them again?

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  12. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 17:27

    It's most likely the Jensen directed one, since that episode is being filmed first. It's also Sam heavy probably because Jensen is directing it, too. I hope we get to see an episode with 15 year old Dean-centric this season, too.

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  13. TV Spoilers27 June 2011 at 17:29

    Alright thanks, I changed it to 7.03
    Didn't know that they are filming ooo and yes, it is indeed the episode that Jensen directs :)

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  14. namedone27 June 2011 at 17:32

    I can't wait for this episode. I had always wondered if Sammy was ever gonna run away (besides going to school)--and we're finally getting an episode. I hope they do an episode like this for Dean. But yes--very excited for flashbacks. I hope it affects them as adults. Can't wait for the angst!

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  15. Shimmerinstars7727 June 2011 at 17:36

    Sounds good like we are getting back to the show being about the brothers, their lives, simplier storytelling and more personal.  

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  16. Linda Hostetler27 June 2011 at 17:36

    As I read this very short summary, Amy wanted Sam to run away with her at fifteen, after he saved her from the bullying and after she saved his life.  He meets her again in this episode.  Since Dean reconnected Cassie in season one and with Lisa  in seasons 3,5 and 6, I don't have a problem with Sam running into someone he knew in high school.  There is precedent on the show and it's no biggie.  Even if your reading is right and he met Amy in between it could have been when he was at Stanford, or Amy's family could have moved and the Winchesters just happened to be hunting in the town her family moved to.  Fate may be messing with them, but I don't see it from this description.

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  17. Dahne27 June 2011 at 17:48

    The first one makes a lot more sense to me.  I don't have a problem with it going either way.  Anyone know who is playing 15-year-old Sam, if this is a flashback episode?  

    I don't think we're getting a reappearance of Fate in this episode either.  It's just my warped sense of humor.  Blame it on the morning because I don't do mornings.

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  18. Dahne27 June 2011 at 17:50

    Not me.  I wasn't a fan of teen Dean in Afterschool Special.  However, more kids flashbacks I am all for.

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  19. Shika27 June 2011 at 17:52

    Out of curiosity, where's the source of this? o.o

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  20. DarkUFO27 June 2011 at 17:54

    We are the source :) It's from one of our contacts

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  21. Shika27 June 2011 at 17:56

    Ah~ No no, I know you guys are the source. Was just curious where YOU got it from though. Thank you very much for answering! ^^

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  22. DarkUFO27 June 2011 at 17:57

    Ha, no worries ;)

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  23. Claudia27 June 2011 at 18:08

    I'm sure Amy could be an awesome character but at the moment I just want to know what they will do with Cas. 

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  24. María Vegas27 June 2011 at 18:08

    Well, Colin Ford will be 15 in two months so I guess he will still play young Sam here, it would be the right choice in my opinion.

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  25. traumer27 June 2011 at 18:10

    Of course if Dean had Lisa Sam just has to have the same situation. Can this show be more obvious?
    And the whole season we will be guessing if her son is Sam's. Bored now.

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  26. Dahne27 June 2011 at 18:19

    I really hope so.  I like that kid's acting.  Let's hope he's available.

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  27. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 18:19

    It doesn't have to be Brock Kelly for Teen!Dean, they can always get a new actor, if that's what you mean. I for one really liked kid!Sam's actor- Collin Ford.  I like the kid flashbacks, too.

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  28. Wilson Crawford27 June 2011 at 18:21

    Honestly, this sounds good to me. Unless it turns out that this is Lisa part two...
    As for Cas, this is just my guess, but I am thinking he will have taken his place as a background character, in charge of ethereal events around the world and will probably finally distance himself from the Winchesters. If they kill him within the first 2 episodes of the season, that'd be too easy. Also, if he just changes his mind and goes back to them and let's the souls free, that would also be too easy. He just wants to rule and be a better God. (even if that's an awful idea, and will never work out)...

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  29. Dahne27 June 2011 at 18:21

    Why don't we wait to see where this episode is going before we decide the whole season is a wash?  Chances are this is a one-shot, standalone episode with no connect to the overall storyline of the season.  Keep the faith.

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  30. Linda Hostetler27 June 2011 at 18:22

    Sam is 27 to 28 (depending on whether the writers remember that the show is supposed to be a year ahead of us, which they conveniently forgot many times last season)  If Amy's son is 11 then that should rule Sam out as the father.  I do hope we don't have another Ben scenario.  It didn't work the first time and I do think the writers got that message. 

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  31. Judy Smith27 June 2011 at 18:23

    Thank you Dahne.

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  32. Dahne27 June 2011 at 18:27

    Agreed.  I would expect the fight over Cas will be the season long arc and not resolved in the first episode.  That would be very unSupernatural-like.  Also agree that by the third episode Cas will be used more sporadically.  You can't have them going against someone that powerful every episode or it would get ridiculous or they would be dead.  I'm looking forward to how this resolves itself because I think it is going to make for fascinating tv or a much more streamlined story than last season.

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  33. charlotte27 June 2011 at 18:38

    So that would be another Dean storyline then....Sam really is the younger brother, he keeps getting Dean's cast offs, wonder what's next? Dean actually owning the Impala?

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  34. Charli Millions27 June 2011 at 18:39

    Sounds awesome but PLEASE do not have a kid for Sam like the kid scare for Dean with Ben. No kids for the boys please, also Sam with an 11 year old would be insane!!! Ahhhhhh

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  35. Amber Johnson27 June 2011 at 18:56

     I'm actually waiting for Cas to be written off the show so they can give Sam a brand new angel of his own instead.

    I can't believe that, of all the potential flashback storylines, it sounds like Lisa/Ben, part 2, Sam saves the world from bullies, part 2, and Virgil the Hitman, part 2.  Nope, that's not redundant in the least.

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  36. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:04

    Why they use the most obvious stuff to present the ep? To rile up the fans? Why they use the similar situations when there are a lot of ways to avoid it? Not creative much? It's Sera's words not mine that they don't want to be redundant. So far all I see is redundant. With spoilers like this it's hard to keep the faith.

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  37. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:05

    Seriously are they kidding?  Wow they do not think twice about ripping off their OWN stories and even more about ripping off from Dean to give to Sam.  This is so blatant I honestly don't know how they get away with it.  Dean had Lisa, the bendy girl from when he was 19, who had a son who is now about 13 but was 9 when they reconnected.  He's just had to give them up, with Sam naturally lecturing him about how it happened(because Sam's just self-centered that way, instead of being remotely supportive all he does is bitch and find ways to connect things to himself and his own victimization).  Now we get Amy with the son who is around 11 for Sam.  Oh and then there is Sam the savior of the bullied which is a direct copy from Afterschool Special, which Dabb and Loftlin also wrote. 

    Funny how Dean never gets anything in return other than them stealing his storylines and characteristics to give them to Sam.  Anything Dean has or can do, Sam can have or do better and it's SO darn obvious except when people are looking to kiss the showrunners butts so they refuse to state the obvious.  On any other show this sort of stuff would be called out like crazy by critics, I'd love to know who the SPN people sold their souls to to get free passes all the time.

    Not to mention this is the 3rd freaking "childhood" flashback to focus on Sam, it's getting really ridiculous now.  Why is Dean even on this show?  Oh I know, so they can steal from him all the while calling him a loser.  

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  38. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:07

    Remember that You can't handle the truth was ''6x05'' and Twi-hard 6x06 at first. What they put on the script is the production number. It just mean that this one is the first one filmed, because it's jensen's episode and being a director you need 1 week of preparing...which jensen can't do unless they're filming Jensen's episode first (so he's not the filming the week before). They did that last year too

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  39. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:08

    Ben worked just fine till the moment Sera decided to ruin the whole thing with Lisa making it pointless.
    As for "Sam's not a father" wait for announcement that she was his first.

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  40. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:09

    Oh yeah and so much for Sera's comments about not wanting to be redundant. LOL I knew it was a crock when she said it because with all the recycled storylines and stolen from Dean to give to Sam storylines - it's obvious they LOVE their redundancy, which they like to try and hide under the name of "role reversals" thinking it will somehow fool people.

    She's on about not wanting to be redundant and what's the very first set of spoilers we have? Completely totally and utterly redundant, right down to Amy not expecting Sam to be showing up.  In fact Sam would have know Amy right around the time Dean would have known Lisa and been giving her "the best night of her life"(apparently they had great sex LOL) - Dean was 19, which would have made Sam 15.  

    This is so comical, in the most "sad clown" kind of way.  The very first set of spoilers totally prove Sera Gamble a liar. ROFL

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  41. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:12

    There have been plenty of things that have been accurate, especially from Spoiler TV.  I have almost no doubt this is all quite true.  Lisa and Ben 2.0, only naturally Sam will do everything better and right and be Mr Perfect.  Because when he isn't simply a victim of circumstances and other people's bad choices, he's busy being Mr Perfect.

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  42. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:12

    Are you really trying to compare the whole Season 6 with only one sentence of a episode (that first isn't a official synopsis) when we all know that they needed to do an episode without much Dean?? They can't do another Bobby-centric episode like last year, THAT would be redundant.
    So guess they needed a Sam's episode to give Jensen more time off-screen.

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  43. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:15

    You know that jensen is directing it right?.....so he can't be too much in that episode. that's why the Sam-centric

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  44. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:15

    Oh yeah heaven forbid Dean get some time focused on his own younger self experiences.

    It's funny Sam's had 3 childhood flashbacks focused on him now, and two adult flashbacks to "What he did when we weren't watching".  Dean had one childhood flashback back in Season 1.  That's it.  We got a lame quick montage to his year with Lisa and Ben at the beginning of the Season premiere last year and that was it.  We never got to see ANY of the good stuff(only the bad stuff gets' focused on when it's Dean).

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  45. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:21

    And seriously is you hate the show that much, just stop watching that's it that,s all. You can't said otherwise since you totally said how bad and awful season 7 is based on one little sentence.

    How about judging season 7 based on Season 7 final product that will actually aired on tv?

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  46. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:26

    I don't care if Jensen is directing, that has ZERO to do with my dislike for the very idea of this episode.  It's a rip off directly from themselves and from Dean.  It has nothing to do with it being Sam-centric and everything to do with what it's about.  The only "Sam-centric" thing I have a problem with is that it's yet another flashback focused on Sam - his 3rd one.

    They could have focused on Dean's character as a CHILD for this episode, how about that? Dean doesn't need to be in it much for a Dean kid flashback would he?  Nope he wouldn't.  Instead we'll probably get that Brock Kelly, who was terrible as Dean last time and whom Dabb and Loftlin did a terrible job in writing.  That was one of their first SPN episodes so I only hope and pray that they've got a much better on who "teen Dean" would be now then they did back then.

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  47. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 19:29

    Wow....whine whine moan complain, right? Seriously? This is the episode that Jensen is directing, therefore WHY it is Sam-centric and not much Dean. I'm trying to figure out how a 15 year old Sam who had HIS life saved by a girl has anything to do with Dean and Lisa? All it says is she's a mother, with an 11 year old kid and has a mortgage, a life, whatever else. It doesn't even remotely suggest Sam had sex with her or that this is even Sam's child. Sam was too young anyway, and I can't see them doing something like that to precious Colin Ford and 15 year old Sam is way too respectable to even remotely do something like that. Not only that, the timeline doesn't fit. It's so hilarious how you rabid, angry people jump to the most ridiculous conclusions based on ONE SENTENCE. Grow up. If you don't like the show, then here's a clue Sherlock; go find something else to watch. "Stop dumping your wackadoo all over us. We'd rather not step in it." Seriously...

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  48. chris68427 June 2011 at 19:30

    First of all, Sam was six months old in November of 83, which makes him 15 somewhere around 1998.  Unless the girl was pregnant for a good three years, it's not his kid, and this isn't a redux of Lisa/Ben.

    Why did demons pop into my mind when I heard this synopsis?  Demons were all around Sam when he was about this age (per Lucifer in Swan Song), so I'm thinking maybe this will tie in somehow to the newly uncovered Hell memories?  God it's nice to have a new SNP thread to comment on again. Finally! :P

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  49. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:31

    Point me exactly where it said that the girl will tell Sam that she doesn't know about who the father is and where Sam will save her kid or whatever. And where it's written that it's going to be a 30 minutes flashback only on Sam? And where it's written that young Dean won't be at all in the flashback? And that the whole story will be based on that, and that the story will extend in all the season and not just in that episode. Point me exactly where you see that the girl will stay for man seasons too and where Sam will retired to stay with her

    Point me that exactly sicne you already know the whole season 7 already

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  50. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:34

    No it wouldn't be redundant.  Simply having a Bobby episode is not redundant.  The episode could well be very, very different and just happen to have Bobby as the focus.  

    Are you really suggesting that there is ONLY one story to tell for Bobby? He's had only a handful of episodes focused on him the entire show, there is plenty of room for non-redundant storytelling for him.

    How about this:   Bobby working on a case, a different case from the one he worked on last year, which was about saving his own soul.  

    There you go, Bobby episode and not redundant.

    Sam getting his own "Lisa and Ben" and getting yet another "saved someone from a" bully related high school flashback(just like Afterschool Special) - npw THAT is redundant.

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  51. kristhel Rubby27 June 2011 at 19:35

    yup!! it is!!! it's the thrid episode of season 7 but they'll film it before the others to let Jensen take care of his bussiness .. I mean just directing !! ^^

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  52. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:36

    And  why not let Jensen to direct Misha instead?
    And why Sam's ep has to be the exact replica of Dean's one? Is it not redundant to you? I don't see anything fresh or new from that description.

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  53. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 19:36

    which is why it sounds like utter bullshit to me

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  54. Pam27 June 2011 at 19:36

    It really does sound like a mash-up of "The Kids Are Alright" and "After School Special" (worst D&L episode ever). Maybe the title will change to "The Kids Are Alright in an After School Special." At least it's not the premiere. Please just tell me Dean is off doing something interesting (sorry, just because Jensen is directing doesn't mean he can't be in the ep - other actor-directors do it all the time). Maybe he and Cas have finally run away together. I hear NY is a great state to visit.

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  55. kristhel Rubby27 June 2011 at 19:38

    it's the 3rd but they're shooting it first  

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  56. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 19:39

    he is perfect isnt he?! Thats why I love him!

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  57. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:39

    Do like tessa and tell me exactly where it's written sam had sex with a woman who was pregnant for 2-3 years (only way to have a 11 years old boy) and where it's written they'll stay for the whole seaon and where we can read that Sam will retired to stay with that girl for many years and where we can read she's not like a trap or something set by a creature. You know the whole season 7 already, so tell me

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  58. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:41

    Excuse me but who said there's only 2 characters on this show that if the ep can't be Dean centric it must be Sam centric? Even if they killed off all other characters fans liked there's still Cas.

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  59. kristhel Rubby27 June 2011 at 19:41

    it's the 3rd episode but they'll shoot it first

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  60. KimberlyFDR27 June 2011 at 19:41

    Thanks for correcting the information. Production numbers vs airing numbers can be confusing for those unaware. It makes sense this might be a heavier Sam ep so that Jensen can have time to focus on directing.

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  61. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:42

    Oh yeah like people said for Season 6?  Sorry, this show is too predictable for that to be necessary.  They never surprise me, except in somehow managing to sink lower than my already incredibly low expectations.  Even when I think they can't get any worse, they manage to do so.

    I watch simply out of loyalty to some of the actors, just like people who watch really bad SyFy Shark movies simply because they are fans of an actor who might be in it(or how I watched Stonehenge Apocalypse because of Peter Wingfield and Misha).

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  62. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 19:44

    I'm on your side, you don't have to be so snappy sounding. =/ I agree with you 100%,  if Dean was the one with all the flashbacks, we'd be hearing the same thing about Sam.

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  63. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:45

    I don't get this type of attitude. So she/he has no right to express her/his feelings about the spoilers? Since when this place has become a Stepford place?
    You entitled to have your rose colored glasses on and see everything in positive way and she/he entitled to see things in sritical way. What's wrong with the difference of  opinions?

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  64. chris68427 June 2011 at 19:45

    Maybe it's a Sam centric because Sam is an interesting character with a good story to tell?  Crazier things have happened.

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  65. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 19:45

    Didn't we hear about him running away once before? To flagstaff, right? The episode where they go to heaven and we see Ash again?

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  66. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 19:46

    maybe we could get a montage of Sam's time we Jess then too since we never got to see them together?!

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  67. Tits McGee27 June 2011 at 19:46

    Does this mean we'll get to see Colin Ford as young Sam again? Because I love that kid.

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  68. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 19:47

    I agree with this. I love to know too since people seem to know how the entire season is going to go based on one small sentence.

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  69. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 19:48

    I'v actually rumours that we'll see a 19 year old Dean this season played by Brock Kelly. Sounds like this will be the episode. The speculation was brought on by an apparent tweet from Cindy Sampson who is apparently quite close to Brock. People took what she said and came up with a Weechester episode early in the season. 

    As for a 15 year old Dean episode, why would we need one? We get plenty on Dean centric episodes every season. Now they might be doing a Sam one and it'll most likely be more Weechester than older Sam. 

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  70. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 19:49

    From what I believe, the last time they met was when they were 15. I really don't believe straight and narrow Sammy would do the dead with her. Sam's like 29 right now, so that means she would be around the same age. She'd have to have the son when she was about 18. not 15.

    I also figured "settled down" would mean fiance/boyfriend/husband, maybe. We've had cassie in season 1. why not an amy in season 7?

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  71. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:49

    Who are you replaying to?  Because I never said anything about Sam being the father.  I never said young Dean won't be in the flashback(he was in the other Sam centric flashbacks as well).

    And honestly if you don't get the idea of striking similarities, just because a few minor details are changed(so the kid won't be Sam's, I never believed Ben was Dean's, I didn't doubt Lisa- so for me that was never more than a minor point anyway).

    But fine make excuses for their obviously redundant story lines by point to very minor differences in them.  The very fact that we have "the girl from Sam's past who now has a job, a mortgage and kid" makes it highly comparable to Lisa and Ben, the situations don't need to be a carbon copy for it to be redundant. Especially because Dean already had it and they somehow manage to almost never steal storylines going the other way, it's always Dean's storyline's getting ripped off. The very fact that the storyline is once again about Sam, this time at a different school, protecting someone from  bully makes it, again it doesn't need to be a carbon copy.  Even the freakin' "No Country for Old Men" assassin is redundant and quite like the short lived Virgil from last season.  The fact that a storyline is shortened or extended doesn't really change the redundancy factor.

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  72. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 19:50

    Yeah that was right. I actually just watched that part a bit ago to see if it said how old Sam was, and it didn't. So we know that Sam definitely ran away to Flagstaff, we just don't know what age. Maybe this will be it and we see exactly what happened out there?

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  73. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 19:51

    I doubt they'd do that stupid storyline again I mean we already had to suffer through the 'is Ben Dean's son?' bull crap for how many seasons now?! Talk about boring.

    What I want to know is how this fits in with the present day happenings say for instance Sam's wall coming down?

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  74. Kim27 June 2011 at 19:54

    "scary like Javier Bardem"

    Well they had a JB look-alike in JDM!  :)

    Although it does sound interesting I wonder why there is no mention of a supernatural theme in the description?  Maybe Amy or her son are involved in something supernatural?  Anyway, it sounds like we'll be getting flashbacks (maybe Colin and/or Brock?) and I do enjoy seeing backstory on the boys' life as kids.

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  75. KimberlyFDR27 June 2011 at 19:54

    Brock actually mentioned his desire to come back to the show in a script similar to this in Nashville and I am ALL FOR IT. I adore Brock and I think he did a fine job as Dean.

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  76. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:55

    Flaggstaff?  But Sam had already RUN AWAY when he was in Flaggstaff, this says he didn't RUN away with her so clearly it's not Flaggstaff.

    More than that, I never suggested this kid was Sam's kid or that he had sex with Amy(though that part wouldn't surprise me, he's a 15 year old boy and she wanted him to run away with her, so she was up for it it sounds like), get some reading comprehension.  I never believed Ben was Dean's kid either, after Lisa said he wasn't(or even before that honestly because the similarities were TOO similar, too much like the story was suggesting one thing when it wasn't the case - you know the whole "throwing a rock over to the left when you are really moving to the right" thing.

     The stories are obviously similar and it's silly to suggest otherwise IMO.  They don't need to be carbon copies for that to be the case.

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  77. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:56

    And he's so interesting that the only story they could come up with was a rip off of Dean's story? Yeah...

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  78. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 19:57

    Even if you have like couple of things looking more or less the same....for ONE episode...maybe even not for the whole episode since it's ONE sentence and not an official synopsis with photos and promos....how's that THE proof of how bad the whole season is going to be? Fine you'll hate that episode,. So hating one stand-alone make the season the most awful ever?

    And newsflash, people do settle down....how's that such an huge and incredible, unbelievable thing that the boys had friends who decided not to be a hunter and lived a normal life and that the boys met again some older friends? In season 1 Sam saw couple of friends from sanford, like Rebecca, for all we know she could have a kid by now... Every person they met their whole life, everyone single one of them who's a girl who now have a normal life and a kid is a Lisa-Ben?

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  79. traumer27 June 2011 at 19:58

    I think I love you :) Great idea. But shhhhh we can't give the writers any ideas or they won't be able to use them.

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  80. Tessa27 June 2011 at 19:58

    We get plenty of Sam-centric episodes every season too, doesn't stop him from having all the kiddy flashbacks.  Why can't we have another Weechester Dean flashback?  He was the one who "in charge", he was the one who  had to take care of everything when their father was gone - there is a ton of stuff to focus on in that regard with Dean as a kid.   A heck of a lot, it's not like we haven't already see "Sam the Bully fighter" before, so it's not like we're getting anything new from him either.

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  81. Michelle Louras27 June 2011 at 19:58

    We also get plenty of Sam centrics too. =) I'm perfectly okay with a sam centric flashback. I hope Brock will come back as a 19 year old Dean. That would be awesomeee. Collin Ford is so cute, he fits as young!Sam perfectly.

    It would also be pretty cool to see something like in A very supernatural christmas. Now THAT was a good episode. That or the Striga.

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  82. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:00

    Hello - I NEVER said that but sure try to put words in my mouth to somehow.  Long before Lisa and Ben "stayed for a season", they showed up in a single episode.  But go ahead and create fake arguments with something that was NEVER said.

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  83. jillyanne27 June 2011 at 20:01

    I'm really interested to see how this plays out. We know Sam has a way of standing up for the underdog - so this is not a stretch. 
    There's not really much information to go on - I'm just happy we're finally getting SOME info on the new season. CAN. NOT. WAIT.

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  84. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:02

    Bingo!  Bingo! Yahtzee! :)  Didn't need to be yet another Sam centric flashback episode and it sure as heck isn't "fresh and new"

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  85. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 20:02

    exactly what I was thinking. I really wanted them to readdress the whole demons in his life thing, it was yet another crushing blow that Sam has had to endure and has kept to himself (as far as we know). I would love to see how it may have affected/influenced him back then. 

    The thing about young Sam is that he is actually interesting because of the things we know about him-feeling like a freak and outsider, the demons in his life, his issues with wanting normal and with his father. 

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  86. chris68427 June 2011 at 20:03

    The only similarity I see here is that she's a single mom who Sam knew from his past.  Using your logic, the Lisa/Ben episode was a rip off of the episode where they met Ellen, because Ellen was a single mom from John's past.  The episode in which we met Adam was also a ripoff, because again it featured a single mom from John's past.

    We don't know the storyline yet, and any episode with Sam is interesting!

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  87. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:07

    I didn't reply to you, I replied to Dahne(note at bottom of post it says "In reply to Dahne":) )

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  88. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 20:08

    Oh hear come the annoying, self richeous Dean girls who amazingly always know what is going to happen before its even happened.

    And seriously whats so interesting about seeing a 15 year old Dean playing YES man to his dad and chasing skirt all the time? 

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  89. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 20:10

    So if that's not a similaritie you're thinking of...what left is that:
    -she's a woman
    -with a kid
    -who has a normal life
    -met a boy when she was younger

    Call the coastguard!
    There must be hundred and hundred of people who went with school with the boys who now have a normal life and kid(s)

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  90. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:11

    "Later she saves Sam's life and is disappointed when he won't leave town with her."

    How could this be Flaggstaff when Sam did not run away with her? The whole point of the Flaggstaff incident is that Sam DID run away.  Here, he did NOT run away.

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  91. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 20:12

    and I can already see you answer :''but there's the potential girlfriend thing, they were friend, he saved her!''

    Ok...you want to count how many people the boys saveed in their life who now has a kid? You're still have a lot and a lot of person that have the exact same profil

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  92. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:13

    Big difference between Cassie calling Dean for help on a case, and this, where she apparently is not expecting to see Sam.  Dean and Cassie were both adults at the time, no flashbacks, Cassie had no kids, etc.  Situations aren't really that comparable.

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  93. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:17

    Again, exactly right traumer.  Sam's so incredibly interesting they rip off Dean's storylines to give him.  Only somehow when they give them to Sam they become "bigger and ::cough::better".  Dean goes to Hell and everyone tells him to suck it up but Sam goes to Hell and it's the worstest most terrible horrible thing ever as EVERYONE reminds us half a dozen times.

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  94. jillyanne27 June 2011 at 20:19

    I wholeheartedly agree. 
    And as to whether it's Sam centric or Dean centric? So long as it's 'Supernatural' centric I don't give a rat's behind tbh. 

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  95. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:19

    The episode in which we met Adam was a ripoff and I wish Adam had NEVER been brought into the show, maybe they would have had to come up with a better solution to Season 5 if that had been the case, instead of just kicking Dean completely out of the storyline except as a punching bag and putting Substitute Adam in his place - where it suddenly went from Dean being the one and true vessel who had to stop the Apocalypse to the cheerleader(and somehow I doubt if it was a real cheerleader getting pummelled by a quaterback to "save the world" anyone would have thought it was just awesome).

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  96. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 20:24

    Uhhhh okay....? Then what exactly are you bitching about? Dean and Lisa had sex. Years later they meet up again. It's suggestive that Ben is Dean's kid. How is that anywhere remotely similar to Dean and Lisa's story? Dean wasn't a kid, Dean wasn't 15. He was a grown man lookin' for a good time, and the timeline of Lisa's kid's age just happened to fit. Sam is a 15 year old kid who saves a little girl from some bullies. Later she wants Sam to go with her. We don't know how much later it's been, it could be mere days, weeks even...

    You are incredibly obnoxious. The timeline DOES NOT FIT. It could be
    something as simple as she's moving away, leaving town with her parents
    after something major happened that CAUSED her to save Sam's life, and
    she
    wants Sam to come with her, but he refuses. This storyline is NOTHING
    like Dean and Lisa's. I think you just wanted to finally bash Sam and
    Sera and the writers because you've had no reason to bash Sam since the
    finale ended. That is exactly how you're coming off. Sam is a MAIN
    CHARACTER of this show just as much as Dean is, and he deserves episodes
    for himself too. It's not the end of the world should he get that,
    which he is. I reiterate; if you hate the show so much and you seem to
    automatically know what the entirety of Season 7 is going to be about
    based off of one sentence, then go find something else to watch.

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  97. charlotte27 June 2011 at 20:26

    Ha! Of course how could I forget the one remaining storyline that in some way remains to be Dean's...for now, but oh yes...give it time.

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  98. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:28

    I happen to think young Dean is interesting but we don't really get to see anything with him except as a side story to Sam.  I think he's interesting because he had to grow up so fast and he never really got to be a kid, he had to make choices where he had to put the greater good ahead of himself and his father was always dumping responsibilities that should have been his onto Dean instead. Dean had to swallow a lot. I'm sure that would have caused quite a few conflicts for Dean as they often do for children forced into those circumstances - they are kids but they have to try and be adults and make adult decisions and take care of other people.

    I'd like to see some of those details.  If they love their redundancy so much they could have done "Weekend at Bobby's" just with young Dean instead(the part of WAB where he was constantly getting phonecalls, asked for help, etc, etc while he had concerns of his own) - I'm sure young Dean often ran into conflicts of there were things he'd have liked to do or wanted to try, only John had demands and Sam had demands and he felt guilty and so on and so forth.

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  99. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 20:30

    Do you have a one track mind? The idea I thought of was Sam is ALREADY in Flagstaff. He meets Amy WHILE in Flagstaff. Not being around his brother or his father puts him in DANGER while causing Amy to save his LIFE. Then, knowing Sam is all alone, she wants him to leave TOWN with her. Did I spell that out enough for you?

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  100. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 20:32

    Well dang, in that case we better alert the media. I mean if Dean isn't the only human being in the whole world that hasn't had a female friend in their younger days that had a kid, has a life and then meets up again, then this is MAJOR news.

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  101. Kim27 June 2011 at 20:32

    Oh my, I really hope they aren't going to imply that Sam could be the father of this kid or that she was Sam's first at 15/16 years old...yikes! 

    I agree with Linda, it didn't work for the Dean/Lisa/Ben storyline and I don't need to see a Sam-centric redux of that.

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  102. charlotte27 June 2011 at 20:33

    Agreed. There is an absolute wealth of material for a teen!Dean episode - from his looking after Sam, to his behaviour and attitude towards his Dad. There's also the sympathy he might have got from teachers growing up - brought on by his appearance and/or attitude, and his inability to make friends. He might have caught the attention of a nice neighbour or kid in the motel room next door..the possibilities are endless, it only takes a little imagination.

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  103. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:37

    You haven't even watched the show have you because I don't know who that Dean is. You know the guy who grew up too fast?  The guy who certainly wasn't such a "yes man" to his dad that he didn't "burn down a field" with fireworks just for Sam?  The one who tried to make Christmas for Sam by breaking into a house and stealing gifts because they really didn't have any money and who the heck knew where John was.

    Or the one who Sam said in Salvation that Dean was the one person he always knew he could count on?  When Dean was spending all that time taking care of Sam and taking care of John when he was around, as well as going to school - you really think it was EASY for him? Just because Sam saw him that way(yes man for dad chasing skirt all the time) doesn't mean he actually was?  That's really an amazing amount of responsibility to put on a kid and how about the times when John didn't come home on time? And money ran out?  What happened if Sam got hurt and they couldn't get in touch with Dad and one of the very few other people they were allowed contact with were also unavailable or two far away to get their very quickly?  What if there was trouble at school and the principles/teacher wanted to see their parent and said parent wasn't around?  What if they ran out of food before Dad came home?  What if Child Protective Services got wind of their situation? 

    That is the sort of stuff young Dean would have had to deal with.  But yeah nothing worth saying about him, just a yes man to an often absentee father.

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  104. Profane27 June 2011 at 20:38

    Wow. Dare I say this sounds like Lisa and Ben redux? No, can't be. Because that would be REDUNDANT, Sera.

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  105. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 20:41

    Oh look guys. The EDGs haven't had a reason to get nasty and attack Sam for awhile. This must be Christmas for them! They're compiling!

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  106. maxine lynn27 June 2011 at 20:41

    Agree with that about Sam's 'recycled versions' somehow being bigger and better.. but not as good. When Dean came back it got mentioned that he was dead inside, but when Sam came back they had to go one better and have him literally dead inside and have no soul, and have him (or his soul) in hell for over 100 years longer than Dean was.

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  107. chris68427 June 2011 at 20:42

    You seem to know an awful lot about Dean's childhood considering the flashbacks are always about Sam.

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  108. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:45

    No I wasn't even thinking of potential girlfriend, I was thinking of The Kids are Alright. Lisa wasn't cast as a recurring character and I didn't really think she'd be one, not even after the dream episode.

    I can't stand that sort of excuse "but they know people with kids" as if that's the ONLY way they could tell the story - yet why choose to tell it THIS way?

    Like Sam wouldn't know any MALE friends with kids now?  Or how about just a friend without a kid? Or a friend with a FEMALE kid. Or how about a friend, male or female, with 5 kids?  Weirder things have happened - one of those Hanson brother's of Mmmm...Bop fame already has 3 or 4 kids and is exactly Sam's and this woman's age.

    Instead they choose the one that is most similar to a storyline already told for Dean - a woman who Sam knew in the past who now has a child, a son, of nearly the same as Ben.

    Honestly, come on - they have half a dozen ways to show "friend/person they saved who now has kids" and they choose THE one that is closest to Lisa and Ben.

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  109. traumer27 June 2011 at 20:45

    For Chuck's sake can they stop with all that "wall coming down" BS? Those walls fell. End of story.

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  110. Dahne27 June 2011 at 20:53

    This is not a brother war.  In fact, SpoilerTV is pretty good about avoiding them.  It's one of the few places and what many people enjoy most about discussing here.  I am fine with Dean flashbacks.  I just prefer them to be with Ridge Canipe than Brock Kelly.  I liked him better.

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  111. traumer27 June 2011 at 20:53

    First of all try to read what sarcasm means. It helps.
    Now when Lisa first was brought into spn she didn't mean to stay for a season.
    And who said Sam will retire to live with her? Dean didn't do that so of course Sam won't do that either.
    And if they make her a trap it will be the end of Lisa's story v.2.

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  112. Tessa27 June 2011 at 20:55

    You are the one being thick headed(or purposely "misunderstanding" what I've said, which is more likely). You are purposely arguing about stuff that I NEVER mentioned, simply because you can't honestly refute the basic premise of what said hoping to obfuscate the point.

    The ages have nothing to do with it, sex has little to do with it.  What does the "timeline" have to do with it?  Who said anything about timelines?  

    How could I possibly forget that Sam is a MAIN CHARACTER - he's the only MAIN CHARACTER because Dean's never given anything to do that's worthwhile OTHER than worry about Sam, be focused on Sam and Sam's given ALL the main and major plot arcs ALL to himself.  Dean had one for a little while in Season 4 that was suddenly reduced to just a "vessel"(which oddly enough Sam didn't even care about until it turned out that HE was also meant to be a vessel and then he bitched at Dean for not being more concerned about Sam) and then that was reduced even further to punching bag.  He's never allowed to do anything other than react to SAM's storylines.

    The one single pathetic little half done, retconned storyline he did have last season was Lisa and Ben and now Sam is even being given that, though in much miniaturized form.

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  113. Kim27 June 2011 at 20:55

    Hey -- how about not generalizing a group of fans, okay?  Just because YOU don't have interest in a flashback episode about 15yo Dean doesn't mean that others wouldn't be interested.

    Dean was responsible for a whole lot more at that age than merely being a "yes Man" to John or "chasing skirts."  Dean took care of both his dad and his brother.  He had a lot on his plate when he was growing up.  Dean was a caretaker *and* a hunter *and* a teenager.  And this "Dean girl" would love to see an episode about how Dean had to handle all that was expected of him during his childhood.

    That said, I do also look forward to Sam as a teenager and hopefully we will also get to see teenage Dean as well.

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  114. Dahne27 June 2011 at 20:58

    I read it similarly to Tessa in that he met her and then met her again at which time he did not run away with her.  In this episode he meets her a third time.  You read it differently and that's great.  No need to spell things out.

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  115. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:01

    It's just because Sam's weak and can't handle things well so everyone has to hold his hand. Dean otoh is strong and can manage even after terrible sitations. he's a sirvivour everyone on the show relies on.

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  116. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:03

    Are you implying that John had sex with Ellen? Ew.

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  117. chris68427 June 2011 at 21:03

    So is this thread an indication that every time Sam is mentioned in a promo with a demon, ghost, monster, or angel, or that he saves someone, or has family issues, it's going to be called "redundant" because all that has been done before?   Yikes!  It's going to be a long year.

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  118. chris68427 June 2011 at 21:06

    No.  We don't know that Sam had sex with this girl either.  We just know that she's someone from his past.

    Why would John and Ellen having had a relationship be "Ew?" They're both about the same age and they were both single.

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  119. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:09

    Oh here come the annoying, self righteous Sam girl with their famous name calling.
    And seriously what's interesting about seeing a 15 y.o. sam saving a world from bullies (seen it already) and being saved (seen it a billion times)?

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  120. Tessa27 June 2011 at 21:11

    Hardee Har...No that's my point - we know basics - we KNOW that Dean was forced to grow up to fast because we were TOLD, we know he had a ton of responsibilities because we were TOLD, we know he was left in charge for first days, then weeks and then up to a month at a time because we were told and we kind of vaguely "saw" in SAM'S episodes--Dad wasn't there, Dean was, thus Dean was the one left with the responsibility.  

    The thing with storytelling is "show more than tell".   Everything we've SEEN in Sam's flashbacks are things that could be easily assumed, just like those things I listed in Dean's.  The difference is we've SEEN these things with Sam, whereas for the most part we've only been told about them with Dean and what we have seen has been mostly done as part of Sam-centric, focused episodes.

    I want to see Dean dealing with that stuff from HIS point of view, I want to see what he went through.  That's heavy and it's huge and it shaped who he is, we should get to see it.

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  121. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:14

    Who said Sam doesn't deserve an ep? But why he happened to have 3 flashback eps already? If it's Jensen's ep to direct why not make it about Dean for a change?

    And since you know everything that can happen on this show please explain to me how that girl couldn't save herself from bullies but was able to save Sam from a danger (possible monsters or demons)?

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  122. Dahne27 June 2011 at 21:16

    SpoilerTV was one of my favorite sites for Supernatural because it did not have brother wars.  Unfortunately, people today are taking a 4 line synopsis (that is NOT official by the way) and turning it into a redundant and quite frankly uninteresting diatribe.  There are plenty of other sites to take this conversation.  Please do.  

    Both sides need to cool down.  We have a great thing here at SpoilerTV and I do not want to see it ruined by petty fighting.

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  123. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:18

    For me young Dean (but please don't cast Broke again!) is way more interesting than Sam. We know everything about Sam already. His stuff is for kids mostly, for teens. And Dean's stuff is for adults, it's more complicated and more real.

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  124. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:23

    Oh, I got it. Everyone who's not happy with this spoiler is automatically EDG now. Thanks for explaining. Should I assume that everyone who's eating everything Sera serves no matter how illogical and far from canon it is is ESG?

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  125. Tessa27 June 2011 at 21:24

    Maybe if they came up with storylines of Sam's own, instead of stealing them from Dean(only naturally having Sam do it all "better", unless it's suffering in which case Sam's suffering of course is so much worse) - then no one would have to call it redundant.

    It gets called redundant because it is and it's only natural to get annoyed at a) lack of imagination and b) seeing storylines they only did half-assed jobs of with one character(Dean), get the full treatment with another(Sam).  

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  126. traumer27 June 2011 at 21:26

    Stop dreaming. We're on spn. Hence that will never happen.

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  127. Dahne27 June 2011 at 21:30

    My guess is that we will be getting a lot more details as we get closer to the air date.  This is just the minimal basics.  If everyone hangs on until then, I think much of the brouhaha will die down.

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  128. chris68427 June 2011 at 21:31

    OK, what am I missing here?  These aren't all about Sam.  For childhood flashbacks, we have:

    - The night YED killed their mother.  Dean remembers it, Sam doesn't, although Sam did get a playback by YED later.
    - Something Wicked.  That one's Dean's memory.  Sam was an infant then.
    - Supernatural Christmas.  I think we saw a lot about both of their childhoods, but I'll give that one to Sam because these memories were pivotal in his development.
    - After School Special.  The flashbacks were from both of their points of view and were both telling.  Sam certainly didn't know about Dean's relationship with the blond.  But I'll say that this episode leaned slightly more toward Sam than Dean, only because the ghost was connected to Sam.
    - Dark Side of the Moon.  We saw flashbacks from both of them, but the episode leaned more toward Dean than Sam.  It was Dean's POV.

    Am I missing something?

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  129. AllyAF27 June 2011 at 21:39

    Couldn't agree more :( That's why I'm having 5 accounts here to move around when it's fighting time.

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  130. JekkizeProductions27 June 2011 at 22:01

    Ahahaha! "We just want to tell a good story and not be REDUNDANT and bring you interesting stories that are FRESH"
    rotflmao!

    Yeah cause Cas' character development would have been redundant so they had to get rid of him to make room for all these new original ideas!!!!  O_o

    KNOW WHAT? JUST LET BEN EDLUND WRITE EVERYTHING FROM NOW ON PLEASE!

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  131. Kat27 June 2011 at 22:04

    That was one of my wishes for season 7 more kid flashbacks.

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  132. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:04

    no thank you! One dick bag angel BFF is enough on the show, I dont think I could handle anymore homerotic subtext. Dean and Cas are as gay as I want the show to get unless they actually bite the bullet and have a real gay character which I wouldnt mind. At the moment Dean and Cas are the closest thing to gay as we're gonna get. 

    I'd rather Sam have a human BFF, something completeely different to the puke inducing Dean/Cas one.

    And seriously the single woman with a kid angle-thats Dean's kink not Sam's. Dean likes the mummy type.

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  133. María Vegas27 June 2011 at 22:05

    Well, there is a bit more information about the young Winchesters in "Supernatural: The Animation", especially in the episode "Rising Son". Unless one decides not to take that show into account, of course.

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  134. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:07

    I hear it's going to be Brock Kelly and Colin Ford-unconfirmed but all signs are pointing to the rumours being true.

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  135. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:10

    I thought he did a good job too. He realistically portrayed how I imagined Dean to be at 18-cocky, promiscuous, mouthy yet with an underlying vulnerability anyone with a brain would be able to see. 

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  136. Kat27 June 2011 at 22:12

    A 2-3 year pregnancy would be right. I was trying to do the math earlier. Late 20s = 28-29 minus 11 = 17 at earliest.

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  137. AllyAF27 June 2011 at 22:19

    I think we have to take the anime as a different serie. Like we saw in the anime Sam using powers when he was really young, but in season 1-2 they insisted that the psyched only started to have their first powers at age 22

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  138. Kat27 June 2011 at 22:19

    Well I for one am just going to watch Supernatural season 7 regardless of what a few, vague, "plot" lines come from the writers room. One episode does not a season make. I like Weechester flashbacks, was what I wanted more of in season 7.

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  139. AllyAF27 June 2011 at 22:24

    :) I agree with you. i remember last years in the very first 4-unofficials-lines-spoilers , it was something like ''Come to see what 48 hours of book searching is like in Bobby's life, you'll see what happened betwee the boys' calls''...I was like 0.o...hummm what? But it was so much more than those couple of lines :) So now I'm waiting to see before judging

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  140. shadowhund27 June 2011 at 22:25

    Sam is NOT the father of this kid, please folks! He is to young and the time-difference is not fitting!
    I only hope it is not another demon in Sam's life. Sam needs a human being who is seeing Sam's human abilities, his compassion and his need to help others. After Sam's wall came down he finally can deal with all issues of him and I think Sam needs someone who is reminding him that he is a good person.
    I think Dean will be there too, and he is my no1 for supporting Sam! But I think it would be good for Sam to have someone else.
    Dean has Bobby as his fatherly friend!
    And this is episode 3 and not the premiere. I am glad the focus seems to be the brothers, -hopefully!

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  141. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:29

    I was simply talking about how this particular storyline might fir with present day, otherwise I don't think there is a need for a flashback episode as much as I adore Colin Ford as young Sam. I'm not a fan of having pointless episodes that add nothing to the overall storyline. Which is why I'm hoping that maybe this particular storyline has something to do with Sam's wall falling or the boys not being able to trust anyone or anything that would connect it to season 7. I dont want a weechester episode just for the sake of it. I think there is enough fan servicing going on as it is.

    And Yes Sam's wall came down now hopefully we get the fall out in season 7. I mean Dean has been back from hell for what 3 years now and it was mentioned a couple of times in season 6 not to mention the drinking problem he has which is clearly a coping mechanism for said time in hell. 

    I hope season 7 brings us lots of Sam angst on that front, I mean if Dean can spend a whole season angsting over Lisa and Ben then I dont see why there shouldnt be angst for Sam over something more important.

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  142. Sylvie227 June 2011 at 22:42

    What's really ''rotflmao!''  is how you ..and a couple of others...can take a general quote about general season arc and put it against 4 unofficials 'spoilers' lines of a stand-alone. How 4 unofficials line of a standalone can judge the whole season? Especially when someone just pointed out that last year first thing we got of weekend at Bobbys was talking about Bobby reading books, and it turned out to be much deeper with his soul and Crowley and the burning bones and everything else

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  143. shadowhund27 June 2011 at 22:44

    You have a point! In actually showing young Sam back then manipulated
    from the demons has something intriguing! I want that the show shows us
    Sam's emotional journey, not only tells us. But now after he put himself
    together to "not letting his brother out there alone" he will be on the edge, overwhelming memories, missing self confidence and trust in himself!
    But I would love for Sam to have one person, who appreciates Sam's humanity and likes Sam! A human, no matter what gender!

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  144. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:49

    Sam is incredibly strong! he'll pick himself up as usual dust himself off and get on with the job. He wont be sitting around drinking himself to death and wallowing in self pity. 

    IMO God chose Sam to bare the burden of being the chosen one because he had the strongest soul, the strongest heart to be able to take the amount of abuse he has and still come out on top. God ensured Sam would be a survivor by aiding him with Dean, a protector and a soul mate to share the burden too strong for one man. 

    With everything Sam has been through and his ability to just get through it to suggest that he is weak is just being a bitch for the sake of being a bitch. 

    He has never had his hand held through anything and there is no suggestion that season 7 will be any different. 

    Besides I'm sure Dean will be too busy pining over Cas, he wont have time to hold Sam's hand even if he needed it. 

    Sam can look after himself-as seen in the season 6 finale. Wasnt it he who defeated his hell and soulless self just so he wouldnt be leaving his brother alone. Wasnt it Sam who went to save Dean even though he could barely stand up straight?

    HERES TO SAM WINCHESTER STRONGEST MAN I'LL EVER KNOW-FICTIONAL OR NOT.

    Sam Winchester weak? HA! Most pathetic words I've ever heard from a hater. Take your bullshit to TWOP they'll buy anything.

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  145. ami jek27 June 2011 at 22:53

    Remember that this is a story about Sam and Dean.  Remember that Sam stabbed the God and who the hell cares anyway, bye bye Castiel

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  146. KatHale27 June 2011 at 22:56

    I know that know..But when the news were first posted,it said 7x01!
    All is right in the world! ; )

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  147. tvmonkey27 June 2011 at 22:57

    where theres a teen Sam I'm sure teen Dean wont be too far away. I think people are making way too many assumptions based on way too little info. Whose to say we wont see anything about Dean-he's have dropped out of school by then and be hunting with his Dad maybe that plays a part? 

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  148. KatHale27 June 2011 at 22:58

    You're right!
    It's just that when this thing was first posted it said 7x01..
    Makes sense to shoot it first anyway!

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  149. KatHale27 June 2011 at 23:07

    I know this is a story about Sam and Dean.And I won't argue about who cares,cause it's simply a matter of whether we like Cas as a character or not.
    But the fact remains that the main cliffhanger was about Castiel..So I think it's normal to want some answers!

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  150. Kyelinn27 June 2011 at 23:17

    Amen to ALL of this.

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  151. Folie-lex28 June 2011 at 00:17

    ...just like they did last year. Sounds logical to me. *nods*

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  152. hermit28 June 2011 at 00:29

    Heh, yeah, I'm waiting for Cas and the Impala to be officially given to Sam. He's been given everything else from Dean.  Funny how Dean never gets to be the special one, like Sam  has been for the past 6 years. 
    This show gets worse and worse.  This episode sounds completely horrible and just another handy-me-down to make Sam into the new Dean.

    Whatever Supernatural. You used to be good, but for the last two seasons, you've shown how very limited in imagination Kripke, Gamble and et al really are.

    So much for new and fresh. More like, redundance, redundance, redundance.

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  153. hermit28 June 2011 at 00:31

    Really? The ratings went below 2 million for the first time in season six, and this is the advice you give people? To stop watching?  Maybe it's good advice. Then Gamble can have the few fans who actually like her show.

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  154. Garrity Walton28 June 2011 at 00:32

    assuming sam is about 27-28 ISH -11 =16-17...minus 9 MONTHS= 15-16 possibly....also...they say LATER she saves his life..we don't know how much later...so i think its POSSIBLE..not saying it is..but is it wrong to hope. and wow y'all are fussy. you know theres more to it that what is given and it'll end up being awesome. so calm the FUDGE down. I personally would love to see sam thrown back into the life he once thought he wanted. And to see how dean might handle seeing his brother actually GET the biological son especially after having to leave behind lisa and ben. So for the love of Chuck..look on the bright side. Grab some pie and CHILL OUT. 

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  155. Sylvie228 June 2011 at 00:45

    One part of the rating this year was the change fto Friday, worst  day for ratings in tv
    Second, the whole CW ratings went down, not just us, less and less people seem to pay for the channel (and when you think about it...I have to oay 6$ every month to have the CW when I could get it free online). Being loyal to your show is getting really harder.

    It's not all just cause of the writers the show drop. People forgot that and blame everything on Sera (...when every single thing that is important at some point in the storyline goes to eric's desk)

    And if you watch tessa's message she admit not liking the show. Don't blame me for telling something that's truth....and what good it bring or how does it help to keeps fans or bring news ones when all they see when they come here is people whining and whining all the way cause they hate the show and just tell to everyone how awful it is

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  156. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 00:46

    Sam's 28-29. Not 27. He would've had to of been 17 or 18 in order for him to have even gotten her pregnant or that kid to even be his. I don't think it is possible.

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  157. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 00:47

    I didn't get the Lisa and Ben feeling here. I'm not sure why people are. I mean these are two very different stories.



    Sam: From what we know so far we have a young teen Sam, only the tender
    age of 15. He saves a girl his age named Amy from some bullies,
    something happens in return that causes her to save his life. I'm
    imagining that this is all happening in the same timeline because that
    is the way it sounds. She ends up leaving and wants Sam to come with
    her, but he refuses. Sometime now in the present of his adulthood, he
    somehow comes in contact with her again. Maybe they find a hunt and Sam
    recognizes her and wants to save her? Maybe he accidentally comes upon
    her? Who knows. All we know is she's a grown woman now. She has an 11
    year old child and her own home. We don't even know if she's single,
    married, engaged, boyfriend, nothing. The child being 11 doesn't fit
    with the timeline of the children being only 15, not only that but I
    can't see them degrading Sam's character like that. That's taking it way
    too far, and still even if they did, the child's age still doesn't fit
    the timeline, so I don't see them doing a repeat of Dean and Lisa here. I
    think they learned their lesson. The writers may not be the best, but
    they're not stupid and I have trust and faith in them.



    Dean: Dean was 19 when he met Lisa. She was the yoga instructor and he
    was looking for a good time. He describes his time with Lisa as "the
    bendiest weekend of his life." There was no him saving her or her saving
    him. It was just a weekend of yoga-induced sex. Dean makes his deal, he
    has one year to live and he remembers what that weekend was like, so he
    goes seeking out this woman for another romp in the hay, only to
    discover that she has a home and a child who's age fits the timeline of
    when he last saw Lisa, got frisky with her, she ended up pregnant and
    had a kid. We've been jerked around for awhile now if Ben was really
    Dean's son. Turns out he's not obviously, but still.



    Differences here:



    1. Sam was 15 years old.

    2. Dean was 19 years old.



    (This fits the timeline of when Dean took his roadtrip and had his funtime with Lisa.)



    1. Sam saved Amy from some bullies (I assume at school).

    2. Dean met the yoga instructor (not at school).



    1. Amy saved Sam's life in some way. (We don't know how yet)

    2. Dean had a very bendy weekend.



    1. Amy, being only 15, would be too young to just strike out on her own
    unless she were running away. She wanted Sam to come with her. Sam
    refuses.

    2. Lisa never asked Dean to run away with her. Instead, she just liked to describe Dean as "best weekend of my life Dean."



    1. Somehow (we don't know how yet could be accidentally, coincidentally
    or intentionally) Sam meets up with his former friend, Amy who he knows
    from when he was 15.

    2. Dean intentionally seeks out Lisa, wanting to have another roll in
    the hay and a fun, bendy weekend before he kicks the bucket.



    1. Sam would've had to of been 17-18 instead of 15 for Amy's child to
    even remotely be his, or Amy would've had to of been pregnant for 2-3
    years...

    2. Dean's timeline of Ben's age falls in line with the time he was with Lisa.



    Do you see what I'm getting at here? I mean, I doubt that Sam and Amy
    saved each other at 15, then he just randomly pops up again at age
    17-18, especially when he was focusing on school and getting into
    college. I think the only time Sam and Amy saw each other was when they
    were 15. Sam saved Amy from bullies. Sam became Amy's knight in shining
    armor and somehow Amy saved Sam's life. Now, he's either running into
    this old friend, or he's intentionally coming to save her because she
    might be in danger. We don't know yet, but this is nothing like Lisa and
    Dean's story at all whatsoever.

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  158. roadtohell28 June 2011 at 00:50

    could you specify "everything else"?

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  159. Kaitlyn Kerins28 June 2011 at 00:51

    Actually Sam is about 29 since they jumped ahead one year so Sam can't possibly be the father. 29-11=18-9 mo. = about 17. So very unlikely. 

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  160. Dahne28 June 2011 at 00:52

    Can we please stop now?  Jensen isn't complaining.  Jared isn't complaining.  But all this fan complaining is ruining SpoilerTV.  There are plenty of other places to take the brother wars.  What made SpoilerTV special is that we could enjoy discussing Supernatural without getting into the same Dean vs Sam junk we get in other places.  What is really REDUNDANT is all these brother wars.  People keep saying the same things over and over.  No one is going to change their minds so could we please just change the topic before all the SPN fans who are tired of this junk get run out of the place that used to be a haven from it.  

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  161. Lila Bennefield-Lowrey28 June 2011 at 00:55

    Ummm, guys, we all LOVE the show and the boys or we wouldn't be here. Can we PLEASE just enjoy and understand that it's never what they say, there's always a twist. RELAX! Take a valarian cap

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  162. CyanaT28 June 2011 at 01:00

    Well stated, Daphne. *Claps* The key statement here really is neither Jensen nor Jared are complaining.  

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  163. Garrity Walton28 June 2011 at 01:17

    that being said..it also says LATER...we dont know if that means later that week or months or years later she pops up and saves him..and if she saved his life she might have been a hunter or something. who knows....i just think that it would be cool if he was..i want to see a little brainiac encyclopedia 11 year old sam carbon copy. sue me. 

    ALSO is the kid JUST turning 11 or ALMOST 12 now..i'm just saying there is some wiggle room..was sam JUST 15 or almost 16 when they met...WHO KNOWS. its POSSIBLE and i just want to see sam face the world he once wanted and to see dean face sam getting the actual biological son after having let lisa and ben go...so many possibilities...

    and again. we dont really know WTF is going on...i just think it would be neat. i'm looking at it thinking what if instead of thinking negative like a lot of people..

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  164. Nicole268628 June 2011 at 01:21

    I really think it's time for you to stop yelling out your opinions of this very brief spoiler. Thank you.  

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  165. Nicole268628 June 2011 at 01:26

    Thank you. I sometimes feel as though I am one of the only sane "fan girls" in existence so thank you for adding a brief respite of sanity to this message board. 

    The "brother wars" are ridiculous and anyone who truly loves the show understands that each is given their own screen time for their own stories to be hashed out. 

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  166. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 02:00

    A big reason why the ratings went down so much is because of the show moving to Friday nights. And even still, it did extremely well for a Friday night. Man, I hate it when you people pull the "ratings suck" card when that's not the truth at all whatsoever.

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  167. AGill28 June 2011 at 02:16

    Okay. . . As much as this MIGHT sound like a repeat of the Dean/Lisa/Ben scenario, I think that we should give this a chance. Remember, this is just a snippet of what is really to come. I think that we should give the season a chance before dismissing it all together! I don't think that we should be hating on something that we don't even know the whole truth behind yet. I think that we should give it a chance, and we might be pleasantly surprised. . . or not. But whatever the outcome, we should support our "little engine that could" show!

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  168. Shaula Dfn28 June 2011 at 02:44

    Humm... Ok, I agree that Sam isn't weak, but there is no reason to offend Dean and say that he won't be by Sam's side 'even if he need it'. He always is. It's the care for each other that makes this show great. So please.... Be angry at Castiel and his fans all you want. But don't dismiss Dean just because of them. :(

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  169. Shaula Dfn28 June 2011 at 02:47

    ALL, huh? :(

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  170. hermit28 June 2011 at 03:07

    So I guess it's official that Gamble is once again showrunner and that season 7 seems to be an extension of season 6 and her episodes of bad fanfiction.  This episodes sounds exactly like some bad Samcentric fanfiction I would see on fanfiction.net. 

    Not likely season 7 will be groundbreaking. Sounds like more of the same dull stories that Supernatural has put out in season 6. 

    When will Supernatural have a showrunner with talent and drive and isn't obsessed with her fetishes?  Bah, Jensen, this show is a waste of your talents and these showrunners have soup for brains.

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  171. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:11

    It really does feel like a mashup of Afterschool Special and the Linda/Ben storyline. And she thinks it's not redundant.

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  172. chris68428 June 2011 at 03:13

    I'd really love to know what Jensen has to say behind closed doors about his "fans" who go around continually bashing his show in his name.

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  173. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:15

    Oh, I remember Jared saying he would get to be the new Dean before S6 and Sera chatting about reversals.  Then the season rolled.and Dean was called weak by the Campbells, told by Bobby that Sam was the better hunter, called shady by Sam while Sam was resouled.  Also Dean had no storyline of his own and has lost everybody else in his life.  Oh, joy!  Except not. 

    Funny how reversals work.  Sam gets to be the big bad hunter while Dean gets . . . Well, he sure didn't get the grand destiny, the powers or any o' that. 

    I'd say that Dean fans have VERY good reason to be P.O.

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  174. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:20

    Exactly, is Sam going to be told boohoo?  Is Bobby going to tell Sam that he's a whiny and a princess?  Oh so unlikely.  No, everybody has to coddle the soft precious thing because otherwise he might tell them that it's their fault somehow. 

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  175. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:22

    It's like nobody remembers the old saying, "If you don't learn from history, it tends to repeat itself."  Well, it sure does appear that the producers/writers of the show haven't learned a dot.

    I don't have to eat the entire tuna sandwich to know that it's gone bad.

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  176. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:25

    People can judge it by last season and the season before that.  There really is no need to laugh at people who know what the score is form watching episodes and episodes with the same trend in it.

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  177. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:32

    It's still a really boring episode about poor Sam being hero to some girl with a highly probably side order of Dean being portrayed as a pathetic doofus who probably gets told by someone else that's a loser.  No thanks.  Afterschool Special was dreadful.  I don't need a sequel.

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  178. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:34

    And while that was a good episode, the rest of the season .  . . not so much.

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  179. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 03:39

    I didn't mean the stuff about Dean. Just the Sam is strong bit. I'm tired of people coming on here and trashing him, so I agreed. I didn't mean the Dean stuff. I skimmed the post, plus I was frustrated when I responded. You know I don't hate Dean.

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  180. Clio28 June 2011 at 03:41

    Well, except for that moment of weakness where Sam let his hand be held by Ruby and stroked the right way - so he could let the Apocalype be on - you're right that Sam is such a strong character. I mean, he defeated LUCIFER!, killer of Gods. He sustained SO many years of the Cage. It's a wonder Dean and Bobby and Castiel haven't built an altar to worship him. Who are they all compared to Sam Winchester, bestest special character ever - fictional or not.

    God ensured Sam would be a survivor by aiding him with Dean, a protector and a soul mate to share the burden too strong for one man.
    In a nutshell, Kripke's mytharc. Sam, the Hero. Dean, the sidekick. So when the show sells itself as the story of two brothers, who are they fooling? It was the story of Sam and his needy, pathetic brother. Last season was the story of Sam sans soul and his brother. Who did get him out of the Cage, though. But that's just a detail.

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  181. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:42

    I really do NOT want to see Brock again.  He was written as a doofus that Sam barely tolerated and someone that Sam was RIGHT to barely tolerate.  Ick.

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  182. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 03:42

    Wow, so now you're insulting Jensen's show? Apparently Jensen doesn't feel this way about his showrunners, executive producers and fellow cast members either. You claim to be a Jensen/Dean fan, but sure you have a funny way of showing it, constantly bashing his show. I have to agree with chris. I'm sure he'd find "fans" like you not exactly appealing.

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  183. Dahne28 June 2011 at 03:43

    Since the episode hasn't been shot yet much less aired, perhaps it will be better than you anticipate.  Plus, it gives Jensen a chance to direct and I am all for that.

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  184. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 03:53

    I did see S6 after all.  I know how it's going to go down.  Sam's the hero, Sam is sad, Dean must comfort him because that's all TPTB think he's good for.  Sam's sadness is the only thing that matters and Dean will try to comfort him even though Sam thinks he's a shady loser who's weak and pathetic but better than nothing. 

    No thanks.  Jensen was a great director but there's only so much he can do to fix a script set up to make him look ineffectual while Sam is the angsty hero whose pain is the only one that matters.  Sam will probably say that Dean has no idea about how he feels, ignoring the Lisa &
    Ben disaster.  It's just how they roll.

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  185. Dahne28 June 2011 at 04:11

    You have given your opinion.  No one is saying you don't have a right to be ticked.  I understand what your concern is and I am glad that you are passionate.  However, this argument has been stated ad nauseum in here.  So has the opposite side.  Neither side will agree and all brother wars do is get people angry, make the fandom look bad, and actively encourage new people NOT to watch the show.  

    We are in the middle of the Best Show contest here at SpoilerTV.  Last year, we encouraged many new people to try our show and many of them have ended up watching it.  Some becoming as passionate as we are about Supernatural.  This in-fighting and constantly repeating points (not blaming you for that) does the show a great disservice.

    I am not asking people to change their opinion.  I am not asking people to stop being passionate.  I am asking people to respect what this site stands for and to leave the typical brother baiting common at other sites at the front door when you get here.  We have a great thing going at SpoilerTV but if someone new to the show came into this thread, they would run away.  Heck, even people who have been on this site for over a year are running from it.  That's not fair.  There are plenty of other sites where people can have this particular conversation.  In fact, I think several of you are just continuing a fight you started elsewhere.  (Again, I am not directing that remark at you.)

    I would like to encourage new people to try Supernatural.  If that is not the goal of everyone on this thread, then please take it somewhere else.  I would like to be able to point to the Supernatural community here on SpoilerTV as a safe place for people to communicate and be excited.  This is my wish at all times but especially when we are getting ready to promote Supernatural to new people.  Supernatural fans have a BAD reputation on the internet and I would hate for that to tarnish the show I love.  The cast and crew of Supernatural deserve much better than that.

    So to everyone who is still continuing a brother war.  To everyone who is baiting people with comments.  To everyone who is forcing their opinions over and over and over again.  To everyone who cannot let this go.  Yes, to people on both sides of the issue:  PLEASE TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.  

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  186. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 04:19

    I doubt that the show is going to pick up any more new fans.  It really should concentrate on not driving away the ones it has.  But if they insist on continually disappointing people who, yes, watch for other reasons then Sam, then yes, ratings are going to sink and not because of I'm stating my opinion.

    I'm not the one scaring away viewers.  I might watch Grimm instead because at least I don't have to watch my favorite character constantly be called weak, rusty, pathetic, shady, etc. by FAMILY all the time while continually being told to shut up about his pain. 

    If they want new people, then they really need to improve their monsters, their writing and their insistence that only one person matters on the show.   

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  187. M R Reed28 June 2011 at 04:22

    Well technically, John Winchester had it first with Kate and Adam Milligan. So Dean just had to follow in John's footsteps even knowing it didn't work out so well (Kate & Adam end up getting eaten by monsters).

    You would think Sam would learn from the mistakes of his dad and older brother, but guess he might not.

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  188. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 04:23

    This site is depressing me. I can't even figure out where all the Sam hate is coming from. It's like people were just waiting for something to pop up so they could jump in and ATTACK. I mean seriously. I've even seen a few Dean comments that weren't necessary, but the Sam hate here is so outrageous. Can I ask what is so wrong with Jensen directing a Sam-centric episode? What is so wrong with Colin coming back? I mean Hell, even if Jensen weren't directing it people would be angry. I just can't even figure out. What's wrong with Sam having his own episode? A few sentences don't set in stone what the entire season is even going to be about. We don't know anything as of right now. All we know is when Sam was 15 he had a friend and they both saved each others butts. Years later, he's ran into her again somehow. We don't even know what the actual plot is going to be of this episode yet and I see people screaming "story rip-off" and "Sam is an uninteresting character" and saying awful things about a sweet, young 15 year old boy having sex with this girl and him supposedly being the father of an 11 year old child which makes no sense because his age doesn't fit in with the timeline.

    I mean what's wrong with you guys? We don't know or understand anything that's going on yet, but all I see are teeth and claws out and attacks being laid all over this character for getting an episode to himself. Did you ever stop and think about the actors here? What about Jared? What about Colin? Does that even matter to you or are they crap and uninteresting too?  Jeeze people. You can't base the entire season off of 2 mere sentences that vague as hell don't actually give us much description on what's happening. Is this what you want now that the brothers are back together again, fully trust one another, believe in one another and are fighting together and for each other? You want the Sam vs Dean stuff all over again? Really? Because that's what I see trying to happen in here and it's upsetting. Why? Can somebody answer me that? Sorry, but all of this is just downright depressing.

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  189. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 04:23

    I remember a ton of complaints about Sam's role circa S4.  I don't remember that being characterized as insulting the show or Jared.

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  190. jillyanne28 June 2011 at 04:27

    Once again Dahne you've said exactly what was in my heart, but you've said it so much better than I could have. SpoilerTV used to be a place where we could have interesting discussion about our show. I can't believe those few lines of info about an episode that hasn't even been filmed yet could cause so much unpleasant bickering. I'm one of those who no longer enjoy SpoilerTV like I used to - mainly because of pointless arguments such as this one. I don't expect to be coming back here if things continue this way. :(

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  191. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 04:29

    Maybe you do, but I was never one of them because I'd never stoop so low as to say Jared's talents were being wasted on a show he obviously has a lot of love and affection for. This is his job. If he felt his talents were going to waste, he certainly wouldn't have been signing on for more seasons, and the same goes for Jensen.

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  192. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 04:31

    Even Jensen has complained about stuff this season.  His character going OC, the amount of work trying to keep him IC, etc.  He was also cheerful about FINALLY getting a mytharc . . . right before they took it away from him.

    So, ahem, I wouldn't be so quick to say that Jensen is super-duper, 24-7 happy about things either.

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  193. skeptical_inquirer28 June 2011 at 04:35

    It's Swan Song and S6, not just this episode.  If the past season wasn't all about dissing Dean and making him all about Sam again, then really this wouldn't be a big deal.  It's just that TPTB knows that a lot of Dean and Castiel fans are unhappy and this is the first news they roll with?  Really, what a PR disaster!

    Also, it's really boring sounding with no new and interesting monsters.

    Also, I don't care that they're working together not after Dean has his heart ripped out and the only thing Sam can think to say is to scold him for being "shady."  is that REALLY believing in someone?  Is that truly loving someone?  Especially someone who rescued you from hell when you stopped trying and hung out with Ruby instead a few years back?  THAT'S what I call depressing. 

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  194. Kyelinn28 June 2011 at 04:39

    ...lol I'm not even going to bother responding to this. You can take your Sam hate away from me please. Don't bother speaking to me if that's all you're going to do is bitch at me about what you think is depressing. I could give a rat's ass on what you think is depressing. I'm watching a show about two brothers. Not Dean and Castiel. So unless you actually have something worthwhile to say, leave me be. Thank you.

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  195. Elizabeth Madsen28 June 2011 at 04:48

    I think this sounds promising! I love seeing the back story of the boys :-) I can't wait for the new season, it seems like Supernatural has been picking up momentum... I keep talking with people who have just discovered it! The writing is excellent & I've had a chance to meet some of the writers and actors and they have all been amazing... I have nothing but hope and excitement going into this season, it's going to be a fantastic ride! 

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  196. Ever One28 June 2011 at 04:49

    Because Dean/Jensen!Girls really are the most disgusting batshit nutjobs in the whole universe. Dean is the center of the show and he gets everything and they are still complaining. They are just like their idol.

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  197. jillyanne28 June 2011 at 05:05

    There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of love coming from Supernatural 'fans' today. 
    In fact I think if I were a new comer here I'd be outta here so fast! C'mon people - aren't fans supposed to love their show? Even when there's aspects they don't like? And who knows where this'll go? I said this earlier today and I'll say it again: I'm excited and very grateful we even have a 7th season. Let's just think for a moment what life would be like just now if we didn't have this to look forward to?

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  198. starfishtrooper28 June 2011 at 05:07

    I am laughing and laughing here, just as the writers must be. I bet they took bets on fan responses to this carefully crafted spoiler.
    a) its a rehash of {insert previous episode}
    b) its all about Sam  and Dean is ignored as usual
    c) it will be all about Sam being bad and Dean will be the hero as usual
    d) OMG they've ruined Season 7
    e) Where's Cas/Gabriel/John Winchester?

    predictable fans are predictable
     

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  199. Ever One28 June 2011 at 05:11

    I sincerely doubt that if Jensen can get into another show or movie since he sucks at acting and only SPN, this shitty show, will keep him because the only talent of his are attacting crazy fans.

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  200. Dahne28 June 2011 at 05:20

    I give up.  It is apparent that both of you as well as several others here today are determined to keep this hate fest up.  You are ruining a great site for all of us with this bickering.  It reflects badly on everyone in the fandom and it is completely pointless.  Shame!

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