I think I will too. I didn't miss him in the books, but that is different reading everything from a single person's POV.... seeing the actors on screen I think Bean's gravitas will be missed. I hope they add an actor or two with a similar feel to Sean.
Agreed! I'm in the midst of my GoT re-read in anticipation of Book 5 and A) I was truly surprised by how much of the dialogue was taken verbatim from the books and B) how well Maisie/Sean got those scenes across.
Are the books as good as people say? I'm wondering whether to read them, if only to keep me going until season 2, and also to find out what happens to my favourite characters.
The books are THAT good in my opinion. I have been a fantasy adventure reader for decades now and honestly most fantasy novels pale in comparison to A Game of Thrones and the rest of the series.... Even my old favorites.
The style is unique being in a different character's POV( point of view) for each chapter and it really gets you into the mind of the characters. Plus, since you like the TV series I think you will find the extra detail and subplots exciting.
That said, IF you are the type that will be mad if your favorite scenes are left out of the TV series or the type to nitpick changes to plots or characters..... you may want to just read Book One for now and then read Book Two after Season Two airs.
Personally I notice the little changes, but I have enjoyed Season One more than any other Season One I can recall other than possibly Breaking Bad and LOST.
Wow, thank you for that reply. Looks like I'll be ordering the books! Although I am that type, who will be sat there picking out all the bits that were and weren't included, so I might read the first one and then see about the rest. The different character POV thing sounds pretty cool too and I'm interested to read how my favourite scenes were originally described.
Awesome :D. Just remember that, since the novels are told from specific POVs, your "favourite scenes" may not have physically been in the novels.
Some may have been described by a character after the events have transpired elsewhere. Others may be told from a perspective you didn't expect, giving the scene some added nuance for that one POV character. Other still may have been left out altogether due to no characters present being a POV in the story (like Varys and Littlefinger only scenes).
That being said, the show is an extremely faithful adaptation on the novels. Many scenes, especially in the pilot, were taken word-for-word from the novels.
Which characters get POVs in the books? As long as Daenerys is one of them then I'll be happy! It'll be quite interesting to see things from their POV as opposed to what we get on the show though. The fact that the show is faithful is what's pushing me to read the books. Like with True Blood and TVD I don't want to read the books as they're so different to the show and I'd be trying to compare them too much.
Ah, the POV situation is what makes Book-->Screen comparisons so interesting. For example, Robb, who quickly became a fan favourite, is NOT a POV. In the novels, he's important, but everything that happens to him is seen through (mostly) his mother's eyes.
POVs: Ned Catelyn Bran Arya Sansa Jon Daenerys Tyrion
What Cadence said and then Each additional book brings in new POVs... and locations etc.
Book Two- A Clash of Kings introduces POVs for Davos Seaworth (a fan favorite) Theon Greyjoy
Book 3 - A Storm of Swords introduces POVs for Jaime Lannister Samwell Tarly
Book 4 is almost entirely new POVs since it is the half the story with Book 5 (out in July FINALLY) making up the other half with all the familiar POV charcters.
Thankyou! I'm surprised Jamie or Cersei don't have POVs earlier on, for some reason I thought they would have. What's the deal with 4/5 then? Is it basically one book split into two or something?
When GRRM started writing it he discovered he had like 1500 pages or more and was only half done with what he wanted to put in one book. So he split it into two books. Then he decided to put half the POVs in one book and the other half in the second book. That way every POV got a full story arc told in a single book instead of every POV getting half their story told in each book.
@emmy141:disqus When GRRM started writing Book 4 he discovered he had like 1500 pages or more and was only half done with what he wanted to put in one book. So he split it into two books. Then he decided to put half the POVs in one book and the other half in the second book. That way every POV got a full story arc told in a single book instead of every POV getting half their story told in each book.
Enjoy them. It really does add a lot to the series. The series is great, the books are great two, and the nice thing is that they both enhance each other unlike some series that fight... like True Blood.
Oh ok, that's quite clever. Curious as to how that will work on the show though? Assuming it gets that far. I guess so, they're nearly always with one of the Starks. Ah I'm really keen to read it now!
The theory is that they will combine books 4 and 5 to make two separate seasons.
I'm interested to see how it works out too since it could prove hard to break it into two halves and make both halves flow like a normal season ending in a climax of some sort.....
I only started reading the books after I watched the first 6 episodes of the series. The books are really every bit as good as people says. I´m now totally obsessed and I´m almost done with book 3. I´d say go for it! If you like the series and like to read, you are sure to enjoy it.
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Gonna miss him in the next season of GoT.
ReplyDeleteI think I will too. I didn't miss him in the books, but that is different reading everything from a single person's POV.... seeing the actors on screen I think Bean's gravitas will be missed. I hope they add an actor or two with a similar feel to Sean.
ReplyDeleteI'm really go to miss his scenes with Maisie Williams. That relationship translated very well to the screen.
ReplyDeleteIt really did. But i'm looking forward to seeing what happens to Arya now she's on her own.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if they try to add another big name, since a lot of viewers seem to have been drawn in because of Sean.
ReplyDeleteI guessing that Stannis Baratheon is going to be played by a big name
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice since the role is so important to the next few books (and maybe more since Book 5 comes out in a few weeks).
ReplyDeleteAgreed! I'm in the midst of my GoT re-read in anticipation of Book 5 and A) I was truly surprised by how much of the dialogue was taken verbatim from the books and B) how well Maisie/Sean got those scenes across.
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping the rumours about Christopher Eccleston are true.
ReplyDeleteAre the books as good as people say? I'm wondering whether to read them, if only to keep me going until season 2, and also to find out what happens to my favourite characters.
ReplyDeleteThe books are THAT good in my opinion. I have been a fantasy adventure reader for decades now and honestly most fantasy novels pale in comparison to A Game of Thrones and the rest of the series.... Even my old favorites.
ReplyDeleteThe style is unique being in a different character's POV( point of view) for each chapter and it really gets you into the mind of the characters. Plus, since you like the TV series I think you will find the extra detail and subplots exciting.
That said, IF you are the type that will be mad if your favorite scenes are left out of the TV series or the type to nitpick changes to plots or characters..... you may want to just read Book One for now and then read Book Two after Season Two airs.
Personally I notice the little changes, but I have enjoyed Season One more than any other Season One I can recall other than possibly Breaking Bad and LOST.
Wow, thank you for that reply. Looks like I'll be ordering the books! Although I am that type, who will be sat there picking out all the bits that were and weren't included, so I might read the first one and then see about the rest. The different character POV thing sounds pretty cool too and I'm interested to read how my favourite scenes were originally described.
ReplyDeleteAwesome :D. Just remember that, since the novels are told from specific POVs, your "favourite scenes" may not have physically been in the novels.
ReplyDeleteSome may have been described by a character after the events have transpired elsewhere. Others may be told from a perspective you didn't expect, giving the scene some added nuance for that one POV character. Other still may have been left out altogether due to no characters present being a POV in the story (like Varys and Littlefinger only scenes).
That being said, the show is an extremely faithful adaptation on the novels. Many scenes, especially in the pilot, were taken word-for-word from the novels.
Which characters get POVs in the books? As long as Daenerys is one of them then I'll be happy! It'll be quite interesting to see things from their POV as opposed to what we get on the show though.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the show is faithful is what's pushing me to read the books. Like with True Blood and TVD I don't want to read the books as they're so different to the show and I'd be trying to compare them too much.
Ah, the POV situation is what makes Book-->Screen comparisons so interesting. For example, Robb, who quickly became a fan favourite, is NOT a POV. In the novels, he's important, but everything that happens to him is seen through (mostly) his mother's eyes.
ReplyDeletePOVs:
Ned
Catelyn
Bran
Arya
Sansa
Jon
Daenerys
Tyrion
Each additional book brings in new POVs... and locations etc.
ReplyDeleteBook Two- A Clash of Kings introduces POVs for
Davos Seaworth (a fan favorite)
Theon Greyjoy
Book 3 introduces POVs for
Jaime Lannister
Samwell Tarly
Book 4 is almost entirely new POVs since it is the half the story with
Book 5 making up the other half with all the familiar POV charcters.
What Cadence said and then
ReplyDeleteEach additional book brings in new POVs... and locations etc.
Book Two- A Clash of Kings introduces POVs for
Davos Seaworth (a fan favorite)
Theon Greyjoy
Book 3 - A Storm of Swords introduces POVs for
Jaime Lannister
Samwell Tarly
Book 4 is almost entirely new POVs since it is the half the story with
Book 5 (out in July FINALLY) making up the other half with all the familiar POV charcters.
Arya and Dany are both there so that's ok then :) Thanks for all the info by the way!
ReplyDeleteThankyou! I'm surprised Jamie or Cersei don't have POVs earlier on, for some reason I thought they would have. What's the deal with 4/5 then? Is it basically one book split into two or something?
ReplyDeletearen't there several POV characters in the book series... I havent read the books, so, i'm not sure...
ReplyDeletethe great theme music really...
ReplyDeleteWhen GRRM started writing it he discovered he had like 1500 pages or more and was only half done with what he wanted to put in one book. So he split it into two books. Then he decided to put half the POVs in one book and the other half in the second book. That way every POV got a full story arc told in a single book instead of every POV getting half their story told in each book.
ReplyDeleteYep, they are about 10 in each book... listed in one of the posts below by Cadence or myself. :)
ReplyDeleteoh, havent read all the comments yet.. :( gonna read the books soon... the first one, at least...
ReplyDelete@emmy141:disqus When GRRM started writing Book 4 he discovered he had like 1500 pages or more and was only half done with what he wanted to put in one book. So he split it into two books. Then he decided to put half the POVs in one book and the other half in the second book. That way every POV got a full story arc told in a single book instead of every POV getting half their story told in each book.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy them. It really does add a lot to the series. The series is great, the books are great two, and the nice thing is that they both enhance each other unlike some series that fight... like True Blood.
ReplyDeleteOh ok, that's quite clever. Curious as to how that will work on the show though? Assuming it gets that far.
ReplyDeleteI guess so, they're nearly always with one of the Starks. Ah I'm really keen to read it now!
The theory is that they will combine books 4 and 5 to make two separate seasons.
ReplyDeleteI'm interested to see how it works out too since it could prove hard to break it into two halves and make both halves flow like a normal season ending in a climax of some sort.....
He's of the best
ReplyDeleteSo do I understand this right... In book 4 it is ALL new POV´s ?
ReplyDeleteI only started reading the books after I watched the first 6 episodes of the series. The books are really every bit as good as people says. I´m now totally obsessed and I´m almost done with book 3.
ReplyDeleteI´d say go for it! If you like the series and like to read, you are sure to enjoy it.