Don't watch this show and hope to someday soon but had to comment on something... Sam Weiss....Isn't that a name of one of the hobbits in Lord of the Rings??
I think my suspicions about John Mosley could have been confirmed! The war with the Observes is with the first people and that the first people can also travel in time and perhaps space (reality). It would explain his reasoning for telling Peter it was a shame he didn't meet Robert, as if he had....
I was wondering too about the child , lately i re-watched "inner child" , he was connecting to Olivia and feeling her from long distance , maybe he will help her in the future ?
First people , Nina can't be .. she was questioning Sam about them and she said about William's book : you and your secrets , so I don't think it's Nina , as it's not Bell either cuz he was searching on them .
So .. who might be ? ...... I will go with ------------> ******
Why can't it be either of those two? seems to me that William Bell was trying to grab up all the books so he could hide or get rid of them, and also perhaps Nina was questioning Sam because she doesn't realize his knowledge, or maybe she is playing coy. Or maybe you are right and it's Olivia, but honestly I think the first people are the original parent universe to the two we know of now.
When we met our universe's Licoln Lee I got the vibe that he had some agenda.. Maybe he is one? I don't necessarily think that, since he is in two universes, but who knows.
If not the Observers... maybe the shifters? They seem to be not of our world and we don't know much of their connection to "over there" just yet.
I like the idea of Mosley. His technology and connection was never explained well enough to me. The war theory fits with his role in "the Arrival" episode for sure too.
I used to wonder at times if anyone can plug one of those devices into their mouth and change or if it takes someone special, but we have seen their origins already. Brainfreeze on my part and I wrote without thinking it thru all the way I guess.
He has to turn up some time right??!!?? We have hints of time travel occurring , now all we need is for something odd to happen in Tunisia and we will have hit all of the JJ Abrams chechlist.
Plus it's easy to do when watching soccer and eating at the same time as theorizing.. . I will blame it on Rooney distracting me since I was cursing as I saw him score for ManU as I was reading on here! Ha!
i think it's Bell, it has never been revealed how he crossed over the first time. In both universes he has been given them a lot of technology. It hasn't been revealed exactly why he removed pieces of Walter's brain, he could had even experimented on passing his knowledge to Walter.
But why would he want a war between Universes? Was Walter crossing over to save Peter part of the plan or merely something that wasn't supposed to happen?
He was behind ZFT so it's likely he wanted a war but why?
Argh Fringe can't come back soon enough!!
PS: Maybe it's Astrid and that's why they don't give her enough storyline so we don't suspect!!!! lol
I always knew that the child from the "Inner Child" episode has something to do with the Observers - the look the Child gave September was just so weird like they were exchanging information. And these two guys don`t forget these things that are very important.
Doesn't Sam look much older when with Olivia, than he does with Nina, even though we see him with Olivia first, Maybe He's getting younger and it will be revealed that He's Alt Olivia's baby
Although I am wrong Nina can't be the child of red Peter and red Olivia, I still think she is related to the Dunhams somehow, but the fact that we haven't seen her dopllganger in the red, makes me suspicious that she might still be from somewhen else, or is a time traveler....and I think William Bell had interest in her and Walter for a reason.
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Don't watch this show and hope to someday soon but had to comment on something...
ReplyDeleteSam Weiss....Isn't that a name of one of the hobbits in Lord of the Rings??
ooooo so he WAS a child observer??!! damn! Hmm if it's not Sam nor the Observers, who could be a First People we have seen??
ReplyDeleteMagician Harry Houdini's father was Mayer Samuel Weiss
ReplyDeleteSomehow I didn't realize Sam's last name was "Weiss". I wonder if he's any relation to Eric Weiss from Alias :D
ReplyDeleteYou're thinking of "samwise.' I read somewhere "Sam Weiss" was the name of Houdini's father and that Pinkner and Wyman love Houdini.
ReplyDeleteI knew it sounded familier! ha!
ReplyDeleteNina Sharp is my big guess.
ReplyDeleteHer and/or William Bell.
ReplyDeleteyep that's it
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ReplyDeleteI think my suspicions about John Mosley could have been confirmed! The war with the Observes is with the first people and that the first people can also travel in time and perhaps space (reality). It would explain his reasoning for telling Peter it was a shame he didn't meet Robert, as if he had....
I was wondering too about the child , lately i re-watched "inner child" , he was connecting to Olivia and feeling her from long distance , maybe he will help her in the future ?
ReplyDeleteFirst people , Nina can't be .. she was questioning Sam about them and she said about William's book : you and your secrets , so I don't think it's Nina , as it's not Bell either cuz he was searching on them .
So .. who might be ? ...... I will go with ------------> ******
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I doubt Nina is, but I do think she knows more than she lets on. William.. doubtful but seeing as how they want to bring Leonard back, who knows.
ReplyDeleteWhy can't it be either of those two? seems to me that William Bell was trying to grab up all the books so he could hide or get rid of them, and also perhaps Nina was questioning Sam because she doesn't realize his knowledge, or maybe she is playing coy. Or maybe you are right and it's Olivia, but honestly I think the first people are the original parent universe to the two we know of now.
ReplyDeleteWhen we met our universe's Licoln Lee I got the vibe that he had some agenda.. Maybe he is one? I don't necessarily think that, since he is in two universes, but who knows.
ReplyDeleteIf not the Observers... maybe the shifters? They seem to be not of our world and we don't know much of their connection to "over there" just yet.
I like the idea of Mosley. His technology and connection was never explained well enough to me. The war theory fits with his role in "the Arrival" episode for sure too.
ReplyDeleteI thought the shapeshifters were just advanced over-there technology?
ReplyDeleteHehe surely Greg Grunberg has to cameo in Fringe sooner or later considering his experience with Abrams' projects.
ReplyDeleteI used to wonder at times if anyone can plug one of those devices into their mouth and change or if it takes someone special, but we have seen their origins already. Brainfreeze on my part and I wrote without thinking it thru all the way I guess.
ReplyDelete'sall good, with a show with as rich a mythology as Fringe it's easy to overlook or forget things.
ReplyDeleteHe has to turn up some time right??!!?? We have hints of time travel occurring , now all we need is for something odd to happen in Tunisia and we will have hit all of the JJ Abrams chechlist.
ReplyDeletePlus it's easy to do when watching soccer and eating at the same time as theorizing.. . I will blame it on Rooney distracting me since I was cursing as I saw him score for ManU as I was reading on here! Ha!
ReplyDeletei think it's Bell, it has never been revealed how he crossed over the first time. In both universes he has been given them a lot of technology. It hasn't been revealed exactly why he removed pieces of Walter's brain, he could had even experimented on passing his knowledge to Walter.
ReplyDeleteBut why would he want a war between Universes? Was Walter crossing over to save Peter part of the plan or merely something that wasn't supposed to happen?
He was behind ZFT so it's likely he wanted a war but why?
Argh Fringe can't come back soon enough!!
PS: Maybe it's Astrid and that's why they don't give her enough storyline so we don't suspect!!!! lol
I really really hope so. Not just because of his Abrams experience but also because he's cute as a button... Just sayin...
ReplyDeleteThis was kind of the most ambiguous thing ever.
ReplyDeleteAs are most interviews. Ala Lost.
ReplyDeleteDon't trust Sam Weiss!
ReplyDeleteI always knew that the child from the "Inner Child" episode has something to do with the Observers - the look the Child gave September was just so weird like they were exchanging information. And these two guys don`t forget these things that are very important.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't Sam look much older when with Olivia, than he does with Nina, even though we see him with Olivia first, Maybe He's getting younger and it will be revealed that He's Alt Olivia's baby
ReplyDeleteNo I didn't mean Olivia !
ReplyDeleteWell I guess it’s = the man in “Entrada” who did take the piece of the machine !!!!!!
A pilot. He should be a pilot. Headed to Sydney and from there to LA. Uh-oh.
ReplyDeletewell that would be disturbing! lol
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ReplyDeleteAlthough I am wrong Nina can't be the child of red Peter and red Olivia, I still think she is related to the Dunhams somehow, but the fact that we haven't seen her dopllganger in the red, makes me suspicious that she might still be from somewhen else, or is a time traveler....and I think William Bell had interest in her and Walter for a reason.
OMG!! watch FRiNGE, get infected and stay FRiNGEd!!
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