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Supernatural - Episode 6.08 - All Dogs Go to Heaven - Recap / Review

15 Nov 2010

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Preface - I was unable to watch this until Saturday thanks to a minor basketball game. Seriously, a SLU basketball game against a college I had never heard of. We're not even talking NCAA here. Thanks CW! But I do not come to complain because I avoided all threads involving this episode. So this recap is completely SpoilerTV commentator-free. I don't know what others are thinking but I'm guessing the fan base is split. Here's how I saw it.

Previously - Madison was a werewolf (many cry at how it ended - not me), Dean shot a werewolf (whatever), Sam has no soul, Alphas exist, Crowley wants them and he's withholding Sam's soul until he gets another one.

In Buffalo, NY someone was high when they named their establishment the Honey Wagon Bar. I'm sorry proprietor but I can't take your bar seriously with a name like that. It sounds like an Old West saloon/whorehouse, which is what the sign is going for. A white-haired man whom Dean would call a corporate douche looks completely out-of-place, as he talks to the baby/dogsitter about if his kid/puppy made "peepee and poopoo". This guy revolts me so I'm fine when he becomes the latest in blood-drenched window décor.

We move on to Fat Mack's Bar-B-Q Rib Shack (anyone else think that place names are the new motel furnishings for SPN?), where Dean is talking to Bobby about finding a non-Crowley way to fix RoboSam. Dean's not going to..hey, it's Crowley. Aww, he sends kisses to Bobby and I briefly flashback to Bobby's original reaction. Crowley has a lead on an Alpha but Dean protests. Crowley wonders why they'd stop working for him now, but RoboSam dissents that they didn't know. "Like that makes a difference to you. You'd sell your brother for a dollar right now if you really needed a soda." Bwaaahhh! I love Crowley! Bringing the funny one painfully, essentially true statement at a time. Great reactions all around. Dean still protests, "I've done some shady stuff in my time, but I am not doing this." Crowley begs to differ and yes he has the mojo to torture RoboSam, turning his finger into a cigarette lighter. Crowley would be handy at college parties. "You need to stop thinking of this as some kind of deal. This is a hostage situation, you arrogant little thug. I own your brother. Do you understand me?" Dean loses 10 quid to Crowley as they head to Buffalo likes he planned. Crowley's incentive - "You bag me a live Alpha and I'll give you Little Sammy's soul back with a cherry on top." He's building a Sammy sundae and somewhere a fan faints from the thought.

The "Things That Confuse Me" list starts early tonight. If Crowley is so powerful and has thousands of hell minions under his control, why would he involve the Winchesters? I smell withheld info and I wonder where it leads. Only an idiot demon would voluntarily let the Winchesters in on their plan unless it wouldn't work without them. Like him or not (and I do), Crowley is NOT an idiot. Out on the road, Dean is disgusted but RoboSam knows Crowley's got them over a barrel and pursues the case. Dean needs "a minute to adjust" to Crowley's employ and Sam 5.0. RoboSam: "Dean, I'm still me. Same melon, same memories…Look, I-I know you don't trust me and I can't take back what I did. But I'm going to prove it to you. I'm still your brother." Oh how I wish that were true, but I don't trust you RoboSam.

Out on the docks, the brothers pose as Agents Holt and Wilson. Oooh, RoboSam pulls a first season Dean and insults the police. Next, Dean downs the snark juice and I feel sorry for Average Cop guy. Nothing happens so we move on to a sleeping Dean. Ok, camera guy, we get it. You luuve Dean. First the eyes, then the lips; now we check out Dean's butt and I flash back to season 1's Phantom Traveler. Perhaps, the big twist is this is just alternate universe-season 1 and Sam's still in the pit. Cameraguy, if you pan Dean's feet next week, I suggest an intervention. RoboSam has been up all night because he doesn't sleep. I'm with Dean. "That's not creepy at all." Busy Bee Sam has been playing "Connect-the-Victims", but I don't foresee a Best-Selling Christmas Gift title in its future. Still, it's useful and they head to Cal the Lush's house after RoboCop let's Dean get dressed. Girlfriend of Lush let's them in with way too few questions, and I wonder if this is normal in her life. Thankfully, Lush won't be around for long as he has next victim tattooed on his beer label. RoboSam's supersniffer detects Eau de Vodka and lays it out for Lush, confronting him on the liar dance. RoboSam wants to "bag him now" but Dean says, "No, we make sure." "Really?" "Before we hand him over to a lifetime of demon rape? - yeah, really."

Lush surveillance contains all things scuzzy and artery-clogging and Dean's "getting cirrhosis just watching this." Dean, that's the Miller calling the Bud foamy. These last few episodes I've been getting cirrhosis watching you. Perhaps you should watch your liver first, you lush. They call it a night at dawn, which makes Lush a dead man. Apparently Lucky is NOT man's best friend. Blood décor is the new thing for windows, trucks, and naked guys who are sometimes dogs. Hello, skinwalker. Dogboy completely creeps me out by watching Lush's girlfriend sleep, tongue bathing her, and watching her shower. I am never getting a dog. They are as creepy as season 2 clowns now. Oh and Droid, your snowman commercial creeps me out too.

Back at Crime Central, RoboSam wants to know if Dean can hand Mandy (Lush's former girlfriend) over to Crowley. Dean says yes; his face says conflicted. Mandy and Lucky cheer up Mandy's sick kid. Mandy finds blood on Lucky and I think Lucky needs to be more careful. Apparently the local police are negligent, so Dean and RoboSam break the news of Lush's death to her. RoboSam is cold but Dean wants to question the son. Still, RoboSam thinks Mandy is lying because Madison "wolfed out" on him. He wants to do surveillance on Mandy while Dean checks the crime scene. Dean doesn't like this plan but RoboSam says "Trust me" and Dean reluctantly does so.

RoboSam is hanging out in a playground at night watching Mandy's house. What kind of neighbors does she have? If a Gigantor robotman was loitering around my house, four different neighbors would have already called the police and me by the time he could set his bag down. When this is over, Mandy needs to start a neighborhood watch! RoboSam watches the window in time to see Lucky turn into Creepy. I wonder where Creepy stores his clothes when he is in dog form. It's got to be a good hiding place because I would flip out if I found strange men's clothes under the couch. Creepy's super sniffer detects RoboSam but he hides so he can see Creepy meet with another in his pack. Unfortunately he can't hide forever and the chase is on. Even RoboSam can't outrun a dog, but Lucky runs into a van and its owner takes him to the vet. RoboSam: "Hey mister wait….that's my dog." I like RoboSam's humor even when he doesn't mean it to be funny.

Back at the Motel of Woe, Dean contemplates calling Lisa. Please do Dean. She's good for you and I miss her. Unfortunately, we only get wooby face and a RoboSam call. Dean, wouldn't it have been prudent to meet up with your brother once you didn't find anything? Especially when you don't trust him with Mandy? RoboSam exposits skinwalkers for the rest of us by filling Dean in on Bobby's information. Similar to werewolves ("They chow hearts like snausages.") but in friendlier shape. "As in, the family dog seriously needs a neuter." BWAH! I'm loving me some RoboSam. Dean and RoboSam visit the pound where Lucky can go the easy way, with clothes, or the hard way, with a seriously wicked looking collar/chain. "What? Soul or not that's funny!" I agree ComicSam. Apparently Lucky went the easy way because he is wearing clothes in the interrogation. Thank you for that. RoboSam is again ice cold. "Do you like to play with your food?" Lucky tells RoboSam to go to hell but he's "already been. Didn’t agree with(him)." I don't know about that. RoboSam is a vast improvement over Demon Addict Sam. RoboSam wants to torture Lucky but Dean sympathizes, "I get it." I really don't like where this is going. "You killed every threat that came near them. You care about them in your own wackadoodle kind of way." I like Dean; he says wackadoodle and kibitzing. Dean wants to know who Lucky's companion is but Lucky isn't talking. "If you don't, then you are going to put the girl and the little boy in danger. And sooner or later all this crap is going to come for them." Lucky feels guilty and spills. Someone recruited 30 of them into their pack. Lucky was homeless when they approached him with the promise of superpowers. Dean: "Sniffing people's butts. Yeah, that's a real step up." Lucky: "It was for me." Man, everyone's throwing bits of humor in tonight. What?!? A monster terrorist sleeper cell. Wow! That's a pretty good analogy and I am even more invested in this season's mytharc. Way to go Sera and crew! Unfortunately the pack leader is no Alpha but there are sleeper cells all around the country. Again, I am never getting a dog. Dean tries to recruit Lucky to hunt down the Alpha but RoboSam's not helping. Dean: "Listen to me. What are you going to do to that family, really? You going to put your jaws around that little boy's throat; clamp down. Listen to him cry for his mom. Cuz I'm going to guess that these are the only people who in your pathetic life have ever shown you any kindness. So it's either that or you can help us stop it." Um, IntenseDean with the kinder, somewhat gentler voice, someone would have to have a heart of ice not to follow what you say here. Lucky agrees.

We interrupt this program with Deep Concerns by Dahne. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this but Dean appears to be empathizing a little excessively with Lucky. Brunette Mandy and her son remind me too much of Lisa and Ben. Everything Dean says to Lucky is subtext for his own messed up relationship with Lisa, and I'm not sure I like Dean comparing himself to a stalker puppy with loneliness issues. I understand that Dean is having Sam issues and that losing Lisa is hard, but it's not like he's abandoned without anyone to care about him. It's also not like he went to Lisa to harm her and lie about his life. Please no downward emotional Dean spiral this year. End of soap box.



Under an overpass, RoboSam questions the plan because skinwalkers have great sniffers. Dean suggests sniper rifle and I suddenly get really excited. I love SniperDean. I really want a Burn Notice/Supernatural crossover so SniperDean and SniperFiona can kick butt together. RoboSam doesn't like the plan because "Crowley won't be too happy about that" but Dean's focused on keeping 150 people skinwalker-free. Dean has had it with RoboSam. "Truth is, I don't know what you are because you're not Sam. I mean it's your gigantor body and maybe your brain, but it's not you. So just stop pretending. Do us both a favor." I wholeheartedly agree, Dean. The music of sniper doom goes into overdrive and then just stops. Hmm, that was weird. On a rooftop, RoboSam tells Dean he would betray them if he was Lucky, but Dean has faith in family bonds. Sam would still double cross them. No subtext here. "Thanks Dexter. That's reassuring." Dean can't get a shot since El Jefe has Mandy and kid. RoboSam suggests plan B and I am sad there will be no sniping.




The pack surrounds Lucky and Mandy is confused. I guess jumping to the conclusion that your pet is a stalker man is hard for the uninitiated. As for me, I frequently expect the bizarre these days. Thanks Supernatural! El Jefe is ticked that Lucky has been killing people so he wants Lucky to turn Mandy and kid in front of them. RoboSam goes Tomb Raider on the pack and is AWESOME! Hey, it's SniperDean! Love, love, love this scene. The one-handed shooting rocks! Lucky hides Mandy and son in an office and then gets shot protecting them. He's about to die when Dean offs the second-in-command. RoboSam goes to shoot Lucky but he runs off. Mandy is understandably confused that her pet became a man.

Sad violins play as Lucky visits Mandy to say how much he appreciated being part of the family. "I know what I am. It's just that no one has ever been so nice to me before. So thank you." Mandy doesn't react well and Lucky takes his sad puppy dog eyes out on the road. Again, I hate the connotation here. This is not Dean and Lisa's story! You hear me writers! She will come back.



Out at the park, Dean's leery of dogs. I told you one day that big-bowed yappy dog would be a threat. I didn't fall for those innocent puppies before. You were right to be afraid Dean. Dean exposits about sleeper dog cells and RoboSam tells Dean he was right. Then he lays it all on the line. He's not Sam. "All that blah, blah, blah about being the old me? Crap. Like Lisa and Ben, right. I've been acting like I care about them but I don't. I couldn't care less." Whoa, is Veritas back in the picture? That's blunt. "You wanted the real me. This is it. I don't care about them. I don't even really care about you, except that I need your help and you're clearly not going to stick around for much longer unless I give it to you straight, so…I've done a lot worse than you know. I've killed innocent people in the line of duty. But I'm pretty sure it's not something the old me could have done." Fantastic job, Jared! This was so matter-of-fact, so deadpan he could have been reading the phone book. You can literally feel how this conversation is a boring but necessary chore for him, like doing laundry. "Sam get to the punch line." "Look I don't know if how I am is better or worse. It's different. You get the job done and nothing really hurts. It's not the worst thing, but I've been thinking. I was that other Sam for a long time and it was, it was kind of harder, but there are also things about it I remember that I…Let's just say I think I should probably go back to being him." You think, RoboSam? Maybe the non-murdering version would be preferable. Dean, after swallowing his shock (Fantastic job, Jensen!), thinks "we do what we got to do. Then we get my brother back." And hope springs eternal again. They may not be brothers right now, but they will work together until they are. Fabulous! I cannot wait for the ride.

Now, I'm sure others will disagree, but I LOVE RoboSam. He's funny, he's blunt, and he definitely has action down. In my opinion, he beats Self-righteous Sam, Blood-Drinking Sam, Addict Sam, and Constantly Atoning Sam. Dare I say it, I like him better than Grieving/Vengeful Sam and Super Special Sammy. RoboSam is a delightful change of pace and is giving Jared Padalecki a whole lot to work with. I adore how he just lays it on the line and has no idea how that effects the people around him. I hope RoboSam stays around for a couple of months because he's going to throw everyone for a loop. Plus, after RoboSam, my guess is we get Guilty Sam and he's a whole lot less fun.

Next week - Tinkerbell comes out to play. Oh goody!

Screencaps by rawr_caps. Others can be found here. My blog is here.

90 comments:

  1. I love RoboSam. He is funny and deadpan and terrifically blunt. What do you think of him?

    I would give this episode an A-. It wasn't the off-the-charts fantastic reveal of last week's episode but it moved the story along nicely and gave us plenty of memorable scenes and lines.

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  2. Great recap as always :)

    Eau de vodka lol

    Lots of great oneliners from Sam, Dean, Crowley and even Dogboy
    Lots of droolworthy (not doggy drool either) shots of Sam and Dean being macho assassin types

    But I'm conflicted about RoboSam - I agree he's a funny, blunt, action man - BUT - I don't trust him. Not at all. And that makes him hard to like - BUT (again) - I love what the writers are doing. I love the acting (except for Mandy - she was terrible) but Jared and Jensen - wow!
    SPN really deserves that People's Choice award - keep voting folks.

    Missing in action from this episode:
    Gore (blood splatters don't count as gore)
    Scares (none at all really)
    Bobby (but that's just me I guess)
    Oh and Cas too I guess - and don't give me that whole 'I'm in the middle of a civil war' bulls**t Cas. The boys need you so get your feathery ass back on the job - or else *shakes fist at pretty boy angel*

    Need to think about this some more. Back soon..........

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  3. loving these reviews!!! they are brilliant
    i agree, i do like robosam much better than demon blood-addict sam and whatever he was in season 5 too.
    sniper dean always gets me, love it!!!

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  4. Every episode needs Cas.

    I'm still rooting for a Cas/Bobby Private Detective spin-off show.

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  5. Agreed. I'm actually slightly enjoying Sam this season.

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  6. Well I don't know what to say. I liked this episode, but I'm just not completely down with the whole vibe of this season; maybe it's because i'm still not over the fact that they had to break the brotherly love/bond whatever to give us some action, again. Really now. But I'm sort of adjusting in the view that we're seeing a lot of the first through third season action, this time Sam playing as Dean and Dean playing as Sam. Not that Dean was a mercenary back then, just that he had a whole lot less emotional baggage, since he tried to shove it way deep where he didn't have to acknowledge it(which made the tearing down the Impala scene, in Everybody Loves a Clown, so heartbreaking). And I do too love Robo Sam, it's a nice change i guess, because we've been through the suffering, self-righteous, vengeful Sam too many times now. But I hope that he will come to a balance in the end and that Dean will also find his balance and together they will finally come to peace with each other. No more Dark Side of the Moon resentment, no more guilty trips for Sammy, just pure awesome brotherly bondage and partnership in kicking monster's asses crime inc.

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  7. Crowley is the BEST! I love Mark Sheppard!

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  8. I don't trust RoboSam either. I think that's part of why I love him so much. That and the humor of course. This really was not scary. That was a downfall for me, but I can accept a Bobby mention even if he isn't in here. Same with Lisa.

    Cas is different for me. I feel his part of the story ended last year, so I am fine without him. (Ducks and runs as the minions come for me.) Right now the angel civil war is just a plot contrivance to give Cas a reason to drop by occasionally. It's not a real story to me.

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  9. Now that I can get behind. Rufus has to be a recurring character though.

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  10. I'm all for that. Sometimes I wish for them both to have a memory wipe so we can dump some of the emotional baggage both brothers have. Maybe this is the real reason why I love RoboSam; he doesn't have the guilt and constant angst the brothers have been dragging with them especially the last 2 seasons.

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  11. great Recap Dahne :D

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  12. Great recap! I hope Sam stays this way forever. Judging by the sneak peek, Sam will be unbelieveably funny.

    That said, I thought Sam telling Dean that he didn't care was very cruel. I've said this before, but Dean has had so much happen to him... This wasn't exactly a christmas present. Also; if Sam is "a better hunter than he's ever been" then why did he tell Dean? It's not exactly strategic. Dean could have left Sam all alone. I know I would at least be considering it. Maybe its Sam's lack of understanding feelings...

    Anyways, I thought this episode was very good, but not amazing. I felt it also sort of chopped at the start, but thankfully it picked up the pace.

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  13. Yeah I agree .... Oh... Hi *Waves*

    I Love this season... It's really exciting to watch....and there's great tension and suspense....There's a lot less funny though...That would be my only gripe... It's extremely intense, which is very exhausting....

    Remember last season, when they had 2 arc angels wanting to use them as Angel condoms....they balanced that intensity out with a lot of funny episodes, which kept me sane....They don't seem to be managing that this season....and my sanity is slipping LOL

    As for Robo Sam....Well it's not the fact that he doesn't care about anyone but himself...i kinda expect that...even though, i had my denial glasses on pretty tight for a while. *is ashamed*

    Ya know... it kinda has to be this way...for the story to make sense... His brother can't really be the exception to the rule.... It is very sad that he doesn't give a s**t about Dean....and what makes it even worse is, that Dean has to listen/look at everything he says and does in this state.....If i was in a one sided relationship that would be F**king painful.....I would wanna get out...but Dean can't :((

    I'm glad that Dean Said "Then we get my brother back".....This is how i see this Sam now....as a separate entity....it's easier this way :((

    So as a separate entity...Yes, he funny/hot/bamf...But i DON'T TRUST HIM at all....everything that i hear out of his mouth is lies...even if they sound like the truth....and for that reason...i don't like Robo Sam...He turns me cold, and he's creepy as hell.... I don't think he wants his soul back, and i don't think he's Sam... I think Dean needs to watch his back, cause he's being played.... I don't know why i feel this...It's just... this is not sitting right at all for me :((

    PS: I'd like to apologise to anyone who read my previous posts, and felt like, they wanted to back away from me slowly....I'm a bit Bi Polar with my comments, and wish i could Retcon some of them....but yeah....sorry....i'll stand by them though...cause ya know.... Bi polar :))

    <333

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  14. Do you not normally?

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  15. Hi Dahne :))

    I don't trust Cas....come to think of......I don't trust anybody :((

    *looks around...is paranoid...suspicious....and wants to cry*

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  16. This is a fantastic recap, really captured mostly everything I felt about this episode. I adore RoboSam (even if I don't completely trust him) and I think it will be very interesting to see him 'set loose' so as to speak in next week's episode, when he has to go hunting fairies with Dean behind bars. I also really like the way he affects the balance between the brothers. Right now, neither of them really care about hurting the other with what they say, Sam cos he just doesn't care, and Dean because he knows Sam doesn't care. Thus they are saying truths straight out which in previous seasons they would have bottled up and kept secret until they couldn't hold it in any longer and it would come out in this spew of vitriol that damages their relationship more than the secret would have in the first place! Having said that, I do very much look forward to getting my old Sammy back, I hope they don't stretch the arc out for too long.

    I think the thing I liked most about this episode was the humour. It was nice to get a little bit of space to breathe, after the lashings of angst that they've been doling out over the last few episodes. I particularly like RoboSam's humour: it's quite dry and has no respect for social norms. I also enjoyed getting a break from Grandpa Creepy. He really rubs me the wrong way, and he's such an unknown quantity, every time there's a scene with him, I find myself on edge!

    Anyways...I have college work I should be doing, so on an end note: next week...Hunt the fairies! FIND THE FAIRIES!!!!! Can. Not. Wait! :)

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  17. Ahh I don't know... I mean I love robo-Sam, but I hope we get the old Sam back soon so they can go back to being brothers again.
    I don't really have an opinion on the whole Dean/Lisa thing, because to me the show's always been about "saving people - hunting things - the family business". ;) I guess I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't get in the way of hunting.

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  18. Supernatural Junkie15 November 2010 at 14:52

    Great recap! Keep up with the good work!

    While this episode wasn't my favorite, I still loved it. The dead pan humor was wonderful. RoboSam is a nice change of pace, but I hope it's about to come to an end. He is hilarious and it's great to have the laughs back in the show. That was really missing. I was ready for the darkness to lift.

    Watching the dynamic between Sam and Dean, it seems that they've gone back to their childhood. Dean is taking care of Sam again, like it was when they were kids. I am anxious for the burden to be lifted from Dean. Jensen does a wonderful job of showing the emotions that Dean is feeling. Watching some of his expressions makes my heart break for him. I'm ready for the lighthearted Dean to come back and the lovable Sam to return as well.

    I'm looking forward to the fairy episode. It looks hilarious!

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  19. Hell yeah, Hungry emo...now we're talking

    Throw Crowley in too.....cause ya know Bobby needs a love interest :)))))

    Oh...on second thoughts...i would now like to bleach my brain :(((

    *looks for brain bleach*

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  20. Oh god... Why can't i f**king EDIT....That's it 'spoiler tv....You're going on my list :(((

    *puts spoiler tv on list of things that annoy her*


    Sorry...to add *sigh*

    I love the bible stuff...so bring it on, i say....Love the movie 'The Prophecy'....This is the closest i've seen to it....Any closer....please recommend...recommend.....recommend :)))

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  21. yes, you're right. i thought that after the apocalypse they would finally have a breather and some time to get some of the past history behind. but no. at least Sam is not suffering at the moment. But how much more can Dean take of this. I know he will do everything that he can for his brother, but you can see it that he really, really needs a longer vacation, or some sort of stability, which i know is way too much to ask. Now, I'm really curious about how Sam's going to react when he gets his soul back. Is he going to be all second season (except that instead of "I have demon blood, I'm afraid of what I'm going to do", he'll be "I lost my soul, look at what I've done"), or is he just going to accept that it wasn't his fault and keep some of the Robo Sam in him? Cause I think that Sam has come a long way after the 4th season and it's unlike him to regret the past.

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  22. Oooh, I like this! I totally don't trust Cas at all. Remember Christian, who turned out to be a Demon? Why couldn't Castiel detect this, if Crowley is telling the truth about sticking a demon in Christian for months? You could argue that it was a plot hole. But Cas looked RIGHT AT HIM, and then immediatly afterwards took off. Very suspicious...

    Also Misha let slip something about Cas tying in to the way monsters are behaving weirdly. (This was in an interview wiuth AOL tv squad.) Whatever it is, I don't think Cas is our friendly neighborhood angel anymore.

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  23. The Sam we see on screen may not be suffering because he can t feel but for all we know his soul is suffering right now? It's going to be interesting to see how the writers handle the story once Sam and soul are re-united. He'll have all the memories of what RoboSam has done and then the scars of what his soul has had to suffer all hitting him at once (if they don't do a memory wipe or something that is?). Sam has/is suffering greatly (more so than Dean if his soul is still in hell) there's just going to be a delayed reaction to it?

    Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Sam was to keep some of his RoboSam traits when his soul is returned. I think he's been through the unimaginable and having to deal with everything is going to be too much for him. I can see him keeping some of that detachedness from people and some of that fierce determined hunter personality. I can see him being harsher than the old Sam but not cruel or cold or as intense as RoboSam.

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  24. Oooh, I like this!

    Ooooh, I wuv you Pigeon666 :))

    Follow up question.... You're not evil are ya ?

    Ya know....with the whole 666 you've got going on....we can be cyber buds on condition, that you're not evil :))

    Yeah Cas is WEIRD... everybody is WEIRD...but Cas has the whole guilty thing going on with his face:((

    He sooooo knows stuff......more emo for Dean :((

    I think there are a lot of plot holes in this season, but i don't think, Cas not recognising Demon scum Christian is one of them :))

    I think they're there to be filled in later on....or ya know...bull dozed over...hope it's the former...cause ya know...supernatural...with the epic n all :))

    I also think there's 2 Sams...but i dunno why i think that :((

    <333

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  25. Ha Ha, no I'm not evil. ( I think)

    Funny story: The whole 666 thing was actually me just picking 3 random numbers, and it cam out as 666. Maybe my keyboard is trying to tell me something.

    I've heard the 2 Sams theory alot. At this point, I'm not sure what to believe. After it is a season of mystery and shadow.:) But I don't think Sam is an imposter... if only for the reason that he wouldn't be in like 15 episodes at all, while being a main character.

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  26. Oooooh Spoooooky Pigeon666....Maybe it's your destiny....never ignore the little things LOL


    Yeah i still think theres 2 Sams....haven't figured out if its....corporeal/non corporeal...or 2 physical Sams...and this one doesn't have a soul, cause real Sam still has his....far fetched...but me thinks the plot thickens *rubs hands in glee*

    It could be like Locke in season 5/6 of LOST :))

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  27. Pssst...... *whispers* Yavemiel you might want to check out Hungry's comment on the 'What did you think of All Dogs.......' page..... - there may be carnage if we get too far into this discussion. :(
    You know how it gets around here sometimes right? People's passion overcomes their ability to discuss rationally. Just saying. ;)
    <333

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  28. You know what?

    I'm starting to like my Sam's not Sam he's a mandroid theory.......
    Yeah it was just a throwaway remark, but (to quote AC/DC) hell's bells!
    Someone mentioned the two little girls in Dean's vampvision.......?
    And then we were joking about being clones on one of the other pages.......?

    So where is Sammy?

    Well, see.......he's in purgatory.

    AKA Sera's basement.

    The pressure of being showrunner finally got to her and she snapped.... did a deal with Crowley (or someone even more evil) - who supplied RoboSam (not sure yet where he got him from - mere details).....and now Sammy's in her basement being subjected to all kinds of.........stuff.

    (Sera's always had a thing about Sammy, as we all know)

    Mystery solved. The End.

    Well not really......but hey I'm all out of new ideas. :P

    SERA! let Sammy go. NOW. Or soon anyway.......And in good condition.....No missing parts.....And don't you mess with his hair. We need him. Dean needs him.

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  29. The demon in Christian was one of Crowley's, and Crowley and Cas have a common interest in keeping Lucifer in the cage. Maybe Crowley got a little angelic help in his power play for hell? Just saying ... it's suspicious. And all of our information about this thing being the real Sam and about his missing soul came from Cas, didn't it? hmmm. I think I want a second opinion.

    Nice job with the recap Dahne. I'm not liking RoboSam as much as you are, but I enjoy reading these writeups.

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  30. Yeah...Jillyanne :))

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES...BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR SAMMY!!!!!!!

    *storms Sera's basement*

    *sees loads of Grand Pa Creepy clones guarding it*

    *Backtracks.....cause....well...that dude freaks me out...for reals*

    TILL NEXT TIME SERA....TILL NEXT timeeeeeeeee

    <333

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  31. Somehow I don't see Cas and Crowley working together... but now that I think about it, it would make perfect sense. Just think: Crowley wants purgatory. He knows that Sam and Dean depend on each other, and trust Cas. So he somehow gets Cas on a leash too. Cas tells Dean that Sam has no soul so Crowley can use them. Crowley replaces Sam with RoboSam, and RoboSam reinforces the concept, while Dean is forced to obey Crowley.

    That, in my mind, would be absolutely epic and would make Crowley look a lot smarter.

    And in the finale, the real Sam escapes from Crowley, tells Dean the truth about Robosam, kills RoboSam, and trash Crowley while freeing Cas.

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  32. Hi Dahne :))

    Well...LOVE is a strong word....Is HATE a strong word ?

    Yeah.... don't have the same enthusiasm for him, that you have :))

    Let's say i tolerate him, but as soon as i see Real Sammy....I'll push this one in a ditch....Just saying :))

    He'll prob kill me for it....but it'll be sooo worth it :)))

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  33. I don't think Cas is on a leash. I'm sure a partnership with Crowley would somehow help him with his angel civil war. Maybe it as a choice of the devil you know, vs. the one that's a lot worse. I don't want to think it either, but Cas wouldn't be the first character to make a deal with a demon.

    Not sure what to think about the whole Sam thing - maybe he was brought back by Rafael to be Lucifer's vessel and Cas knows more and just isn't talking. If he was brought back by a demon (Crowley), doesn't that mean someone made a deal. Mary maybe? I don't think Cas is actively setting Dean up, but I think he's not telling Dean everything that Dean needs to know to find his brother (who I refuse to believe is that thing hunting with him now).

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  34. Epic Pigeon 666 :)))

    But i don't think Crowley is the big Daddy.......

    *DRUMROLL*




    IT'S............................................................JOHN WINCHESTER!!!!!!!

    DUN....DUN....DUN!!!!


    No sorry...that's lame........i think it's HEAVEN and the DOUCHEBAG SQUAD that's behind this.....and that's why Cas is Lying

    Also remember Balthazar and His 'Souls are priceless blah....blah....blah'....also not quite finished.......stolen weapons.....DING....DING...DING....It's them....i know it is!!!!!


    GOD.... where's MINTBERRY CRUNCH when you need him.....He'd destroy them all with his Mint and berries :))))))

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  35. Yay!!!!!!!!!

    "who I refuse to believe is that thing hunting with him now"

    I'm joining the 'refuse to believe that thing hunting with him is Sam squad'

    WHO'S WITH ME ?

    CHEER ONE.....CHEER ALL!!!!

    sorry....for some reason...i think i'm BRAVEHEART *blushes*

    <333

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  36. Braveheart??? Really??? You know they mooned all the bad guys before they went into battle right? You up for that Rochey?

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  37. Okay listen up folks -

    The newly founded SAD Anon = Sam And Dean Anonymous is now available to reluctant fangirls out there.
    E.C, SuePo, etc (you know who you are) go look for Jillyanne Winchester on Facebook.

    Yes the truth is finally out - I'm a distant (very distant cos otherwise the fangirl thing is disturbing and just plain wrong) cousin of Sam and Dean's - on Daddy's side obviously (definitely not related to Grandpa Creepy - thank everything that's holy)

    This will be a place of calm, rational, discussion - (hysterics will not be tolerated, okay?) where we can go to either embrace our fangirlyness or seek support in fighting this potentially crippling condition.

    So who's with me? See you there soon. <3333

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  38. ON MY WAY JILLYANNE :))

    SHABLAAAGOO!!!!

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  39. Yeah sure JILLYANNE!!!!!

    *hugs jillyanne*

    Just need to exfoliate and moisturise first......Just hope i don't get speared in the ASS by Grand Pa Creepy clones :))))

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  40. oh, i had not thought about the hole soul suffering in hell theory. I like it a lot! I doubt they'll do a memory wipe, but I also don't want him to be all introverted afterwards about it. I sooo wanted Dean to talk to Sam about Hell in 4, and I soooo want the guys to share experiences and bond again somehow. i know that's not what guys do, but heck, these guys are special.
    maybe real Sam won't want to hunt for a while. Maybe he, Dean and Bobby can take a vacation and go fishing. I mean, after the re-embodiment thing, I expect Sam to go on a guilty trip, even if he won't show it, and to want to separate himself from the person everybody else has been seeing him as. But i also don't want that to be the end of the show. I know it's sort of beginning to be a bit of a stretch, but it's not like they're just going to stop hunting. There'll still be things to kill even after they die, so keep the show going, cause I don't know what I would do without the guys.

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  41. Ha! I'm not advocating for RoboSam to replace Real Sam. I too think Sam needs to get his soul back by the end of the season, but I am really enjoying the fallout until he does. Plus one of my favorite lines int eh whole show is "No chick flick moments." I am REALLY NOT looking forward to the inevitable Angst-Laden Sam.

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  42. Of course you don't trust anyone. You're a Supernatural fan. :-) We've all learned long ago that as soon as you think you know where this show is going, you are going to be brain screwed.

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  43. Thanks! I love the idea of Crowley and Cas being reluctant partners. I am still suspicious of how Cas has his mojo sometimes and then doesn't others. It's not like Supernatural to drop the ball this much so I have to believe that there is a big reveal coming later. Working with Crowley might be one of those "regrettable things" Cas was talking about. I am not however looking forward to the fallout if Dean and Sam are betrayed by Cas. That would not be pretty.

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  44. Hi :)))

    HAHAHAHAHA so true /0\

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  45. I would like to visit, but me...dumb as a doornail.
    I have absolutly no idea how to get there nor am I signed up at facebook (I know, how can I still be alive?).

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  46. SniperDean is one of my favorite offshoots of IntenseDean, which is my favorite Dean of all.

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  47. I vote for the "It wasn't my fault. Let's move along" scenario, but we have a better chance of Crowley doing the cha cha with the Winchesters and Bobby than we do of a non-angsty Sam once his soul returns.

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  48. I always get excited when I see that Mark Sheppard is going to be a guest star on a show I watch, but I must confess, I like him as Crowley best. I liked him since he was on the Fire episode of The X-Files.

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  49. HAHA DAHNE...I wuv ya... /0\

    I need to see wangst Sam....I need to see him throw himself at Dean's feet and beg his forgiveness...even though...Dean will without the begging :)

    *cue evil laugh*

    I NEED TO SEE IT for the evil smirk, the lies,the cutting comments ect. i've had to endure this season and for whatever is def coming next from ROBO Sam :(

    Then he's forgiven...and we can pet unicorns with moonbeams shining out of their ass :))

    No...seriously..NO chick flick moments...are you watching the same show i am....The tears alone make this CHICK FLICK CENTRAL :))

    <333

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  50. My favourite Dean is ScrewDestinyDean.

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  51. My fav Dean is 'never give up, no matter how s**t life gets' :))

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  52. Lol, thanks for the heads up...went and checked it out, told me everything I need to know! :) While I am a big Sam fan myself, I'm not going to go psycho if someone says they don't like him as much as Dean, or even if they say they just flat out don't like him. :)

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  53. Mt favourite Dean is BigBrotherDean.

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  54. My favourite Sam is RuthlessSam.

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  55. My favourite Dean is ..........Dean....in all his various incarnations.....what? You can't possibly expect me to choose?

    My favourite Sam is.......oh I don't think this can be right....ditto what I said about Dean......No really - I can't possibly choose.

    Well okay then: Snarky Dean and end of S5 Sam (the one who went through with the whole Lucifer deal even though he knew he wouldn't survive)

    Off to facebook to sulk now you made me choose. :P

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  56. Well hey - if I could get myself signed up for facebook anyone (and I mean ANYone) can do it. I didn't even need the neighbor's 7 year old to help me.
    Go on give it a try.

    Please.......miss you already <3333

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  57. So far, RoboSam is going exactly the way I thought it would. Sam doesn't really give a damn about anything (because he literally cannot) but he's complying (for the most part) with Dean because he needs him and vice versa. Damn Crowley. *shakes fist*

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  58. Hey I'm okay with an Angst-Laden Sam..... for ONE - I repeat - ONE (or maybe two) episodes. Then the boys can get on with the business of dealing to the nasty SOB who put them where they are right now. Whoever it is. For whatever reason.

    I think the occasion of Sam getting his soul back......or the Sam clone being beaten to a pulp by Sammy...or however the situation is resolved......requires a chick flick moment or two.

    Sorry but just sometimes....I know it's sappy and all that.....but sometimes I would love to see the boys actually hug. There's all this unspoken man love with the eyes and facials, but just for once can't they hug (or even shake hands for pete's sake!) just for me?
    Cos you know 'I wuv hugs'.

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  59. I like people who don't go psycho over these things. :))
    I really enjoy being an equal opportunity fangirl myself - that way everyone gets some love <333

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  60. Now I need some brain bleach :)))

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  61. That's my problem. They promised me "no chick flick moments" and then gave me season 4. :-P (which I liked by the way) I'm good with the occasional angtsy vibe and the "you're back from the dead" hug. I'm good with the single "man tear" at funerals and the occasional "I need to let it out" sob fest. I'm just tired of all the angst outweighing all the fun. I love when the Winchesters "kill some evil" SOB's and "raise a little hell". Can we please see that again? Pretty please?

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  62. OK. I agree to one episode of full-out Sam angst and guilt. One episode of coming to terms with both. But then we get non-stop demon butt kicking and at least 2 funny episodes. Agreed?

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  63. I love this! I'm going to have to rethink it because now my favorite Dean is um, can I choose all of these above. Right now RoboSam, BadLuck Sam and Protect My Brother Sam are my favorites. Sam in Faith and Bad Day at Black Rock are two of my all-time favorites.

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  64. Awww, come back. Just think of it this way - while you are debating which Dean and Sam you like best, you get to think of all the great ways you've seen them. It's like having a Dean and Sam movie in your head and you get to choose all the best parts.

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  65. Thanks and thanks for all your comments. I love hearing everyone's opinions, especially because then we get to chat about the show even longer. Every day is better when you can talk Winchester.

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  66. All the great ways I've seen them............Dean and Sam movie in my head.................all the best parts..............................................*shakes head*
    Ooooooh I enjoyed that. ;))

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  67. I think RoboSam was weighing which would lead to Dean leaving faster, continuing how he was going or telling the unvarnished truth. He could sense that Dean had had it with pretend Sam. Well, that and Dean told him he had. His only other choice was to be honest. I don't think he is capable right now of distinguishing how much honest would have worked so he went with it with gusto, just like everything else he is doing in the hunt right now.

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  68. Absolutely - with you all the way!

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  69. Thanks! I like this new honesty too. It is refreshing change and I think it helps the audience also know where things stand. I'm good with this Sam for a good part of the year before he gets resouled. Well, unless he gets annoying having to have every little thing explained to him. It's super funny but only in small doses. That's why I can only take Sheldon from Big Bang Theory for so long before I need a break.

    I think RoboSam's humor is similar to season 4 Cas' humor. Except I think RoboSam knows that he is being funny and the fact that he says things so dryly just makes it that much funnier.

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  70. I like Lisa because she knows the score. She wasn't trying to make Dean choose but trying to find a way to make it all work. Was it doomed to failure? maybe. But I like to think that it could still work. I think Dean deserves that.

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  71. Thanks! I too feel like Dean is again taking care of Sam, but that is Dean's natural state. In some way, he may be relieved to be in such a clearcut situation again. Although it has to be stressful not knowing when it will all blow up in his face, and I think that's a given on this show. One of my favorite scenes is when Sam loses his shoe in Bad Day at Black Rock. His line is fantastic but what really puts it over the edge is the helpless puppy dog look he gives Dean and Dean's "oh brother" head shake and eye roll that follows. It was such a clear picture of what life was like for both of them growing up. I'm hoping that we get a similar vibe through this storyline.

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  72. BWAAAHH!! I am practically rolling out of my chair. Dude freaks me out too. Perhaps you can get Cas to snap you in and then take you two and Sammy out of there. Just play nicely kids.

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  73. SpoilerTV made me get a Facebook account again and it hasn't been too bad. I'm spn dahne if you do get on. It will be nice to have a few more Facebook friends that I at least have heard of before.

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  74. I shake my fist at Crowley too but the grin on my face makes it less effective. :-P I wonder what things are going to be like when RoboSam decides that complying with Dean is not in the best interest of the hunt. I foresee rough waters ahead.

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  75. Oh, I agree. It's going to be an absolute mess. It's an inevitability that Sam will make a decision on a hunt without consulting Dean and there will be some collateral damage that will piss Dean off. Regardless, Sam and Dean will stick together whether they like it or not because they can't do this stuff for Crowley on their own.

    I'm actually hoping that we get an episode where Dean decides to take advantage of Sam's current state and gives him the nod to go all Charles Bronson for an entire episode.

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  76. I like the way you think. That's one gory, action-filled episode in the making. Add in Die Hard snark and you've just created the best episode of the season.

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  77. mine toooooooo! "I'm gonna rip his lungs out!" (After School Special) gotta love a guy who would want to rip the lungs out of a ghost for his brother;))
    And I also liked What Is and What Should Never Be, the part where he tried to reconnect with Sam; of course I liked the whole episode, but this was probably the only not sad part.
    Now that I come to think of it, we've seen the guys go through a roller-coaster of emotions, but Sam has been keeping them more and more in, while Dean was always the one given the dreams, memories and trips to the future/past, where he got to expose himself. I don't know why it hit me just now, or why it took so long for me to actually acknowledge it, but I guess what I'm saying is that after Robo Sam is replaced by Real Sam, maybe we should get something similar with What Is and What should never be, in concept.

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  78. Sam in Faith and BDBR are my favorites too:D :X Sam was so young back in Faith, and he was so cool how he would not take any BS from his bro, and made Dean do it his way. Sam in BDaBR needs no explanation. He lost his shoe... aweeeee. But also Sam in Mystery Spot. I loved loved loooooved how annoyed he was at having to relive the same day over and over again, and Jared was just pure awesome! Heat of the moment.....

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  79. He might surprise you. Although it just wouldn't be right if he weren't angsty. He IS Sam after all. Tortured is his middle name.

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  80. oh Dahne, fb just doesn't like me and doesn't want me to find you. I did find Jillyanne, after some time of searching, but with you it just won't do. Maybe you can try to find me. Raluca Iancu, and I have a twibon on my picture, to show support for the guys. No, I don't have the guys at my avatar. It's like a person standing in a crowd, in case you find more persons with the same name, which i know for a fact there are.

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  81. OK, I tried to register on facebook and guess what: Facebook hates me!
    Every time I push the register button the site crashes. I will continue and try again later. So if I ever get it done, I will seek you and Dahne out, if not....shame on me.

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  82. Facebook hates me too! That's why I comment here using Twitter. :D

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  83. I just friended you. Glad you got it to work. See you on Facebook, although, I confess, I would much rather talk here.

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  84. Glad to see it worked for you. Nice to see you Facebook friend and SpoilerTV buddy.

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  85. Oh, I got it working, but it costed me at least ten years of my remaining life.
    Don´t give up.

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  86. Tell me you didn't kiss a Crossroads Demon to get Facebook to work. It's not worth it - really.

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  87. I am still holding out with my promise to never ever join facebook.... but.... but.... my daughter says she's gonna sign me up whether I want to or not.... so.... don't think I'm ignoring you jillyanne! I'm not! I'm just... reluctant to join the masses. Still a card carrying member of SAD Anon!!! Now I have to join facebook... crap!!

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  88. Awww Sue I know just how you feel - I was NEVER going to join facebook. But you can limit what you let people know. Don't even have to use your real name - I, of course HAVE used my real name :P And it's getting easier to use - and I don't even have anyone to show me like you do. (The neighbor's 7 year old is disgusted that the old lady next door barely knows how to log on let alone use a social networking site) I'm such a dinosaur *sigh*
    Come on Sue - live a little - *whispers* we're gonna have lots of fun at facebook SAD Anon Central ;)

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  89. Cookies you say? Crap. I'm doomed. I can never turn down a good warm chewie cookie. *sigh* Fine. I give up. I'm in. Now I just have to figure this out. (My daughter is in college and she thinks I'm stupid.... even tho I fix her computer when she does stupid things to it...) So I guess I can handle it, but give me a little time to get around to it. I am only doing this for SAD Anon. No other reason. Those damn Winchesters owe me big time....

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  90. Yay Sue!!! :D Can't wait for you to get there! We'll save you some cookies.

    Sorry your daughter thinks you're stupid - if it makes you feel any better, my adult sons think I'm a nut case. Like you said: 'those damn Winchesters' - oh wait - that's me too isn't it? Damn!

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