God I loved it. LOVED the little talk they had at the end. Sammy cutting the crap. LOVE IT. Loved the dogs ahaha what can I say im a dog girl.
Some people saying crowley's got to much power..... :D well I LIKE IT! Turtore my sammy cmon. bring him back broken ahahhaha. I'm mean I know.
AW! They gave us a little Lisa mention. SEE! It's not hard just this makes me happy, as long as she is not forgotten... and comes back iventualy (eventualy?) hehehe.
GOSH need to go to mcdo now (work.. no i dont have mcdo cravings) AW! Cant wait to be back and see what you guys thought. AND MAYBE THE PERSON WHO SAID POOR WILL TALK who knows ;)
I voted GOOD to be fair. But I DID like this episode. Sammy's little doggy jokes were hilarious! And Dean with a sniper was all kinds of right. They both kicked ass in this episode toward the end. I feel sorry for Lucky though. He saved that woman and her son and yet she basically kicked him. I understand that finding out that your dog was actually half human would freak you out, but the dude SAVED AND TOOK A SILVER BULLET FOR YOU!! Jeez, give him a break? :(
The ending was so sad, but I'm glad that at least souless!Sam wants to get his soul back and wants to be Dean's brother again. Glad that the two of them reached a compromise (somewhat) on how to deal with this.
Next weeks episode should be freakin' hilarious! lol! FAIRIES??? Awesome. :D
I think this is exactly what I've been waiting for. The angst was lowered, the general storyline was alright and endearing, and Sam finally cut the bullshit and told the truth. I actually finished this episode without feeling like I was gonna die of overexposure to SPN's intensity O.o
It was a good, solid ep. Dean certainly did not want to be pushed into letting Crowley pull his strings and I can't blame him. Crowley can't be trusted and no matter what they do, they will probably get screwed. I liked the parallel between the skinwalker's desire to protect the family and Dean's own desire to protect Lisa and Ben. It's sad that he realizes that no matter how much he needs them and how much he wants to be who they want him to be, they are safer without him. That's gotta be the hardest thing to handle, outside of having to look at your brother and knowing it's not really your brother.
I'm glad Sam finally came clean. He admitted that he's been pretending and didn't really care about anyone -- even Dean -- but he needed his help and knew he'd leave if he didn't play it straight. I'm still not sure Sam is on the up and up and can be trusted, but Dean wants to believe him, so he will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm not that easily swayed, but he's allowing Dean to be the moral compass for the time being. As long as he sticks with that plan, he'll be okay. But even he admitted that in the skinwalker's position, he would've sold them out. He's being honest, but somehow that doesn't make me (or Dean) feel any better.
I did like the overall story -- and yes, Wilson, I was very surprised to see Gewn listed in Dean's phone contacts. But, I guess if you're gonna play nice with the Campbell hunting squad, you have to be able to contact them... or know when they are contacting you so...
And, jillyanne will like this -- pathetic fangirl moment: Dean Winchester is incredibly hot with a sniper rifle. Exactly when did they have time to practice long range shooting? No matter, Just another talent on his long list of... ahem... talents. ;)
The promo looks absolutely hilarious. "Find the fairies!" If they don't put Dean in jail, I'm sure he'll end up in a psyche ward. Maybe he can pray to Cas for a jailbreak?
I loved this episode. The show is getting better with each one. The one liners were fantastic. I think Sam won on those tonight. His finally admitting that he didn't care about Dean or anyone was so cut and dry and cruel and you know it had to hurt Dean, but it woke up a spark in Dean I think. Dean now wants to bring his brother back and will do whatever has to be done. Two really sad things....Lucky leaving and having nowhere to go. Dean looking at Lisa's name on his cell and not having the courage to call , or maybe having the courage not to call. This is more like the Supernatural I love. I do like how Jared is playing souless Sam. My gosh. He creepy at it, but sensational. Next week is going to be funny. From an interview I read from Kripke, he said he helped write it with Edlund and they both felt insane. Dean seems to be the only one who can see them. lol Jensen can play comedy so well, and I am curious as to how Sam will react to this.
A welcome break from the gut-wrenching intensity for sure. Phew - what a relief - Sam finally coming clean - still think he's hiding something tho, but maybe I'm paranoid. ;)
Oh Sam. Taunting that poor dog - I mean man - skinwalker - or whatever........ You're so mean.......It was funny though (there's my sadistic side rearing its ugly head again)
And you're right Sue, Dean with a sniper rifle was hot, but then Sam was hot too - chasing down the dogs in the warehouse - RoboCop - yeah!..........sorry but there I go, equal opportunity fangirl that I am ;)
Poor Dean being carted off to a padded room. Hopefully it'll be as funny as it looks - although I thought LFoT was gonna be a riot and look how that turned out.
Dean trying to navigate his way through the Sam situation was the standout element for me. And all the ways that Sam is..well...not Sam. "Shoot anyway!" Yeow. And he's killed innocent people. Yeow! Proved to me that Dean was right last week. Without his soul Sam's strategic calculations may not be 100% he needs to through some of the decision making to Dean. Sam would have killed two innocent people and still not accomplished the job. Um, it just occurred to me....Everyone's been saying Sam's a better hunter without is soul. Is he really? Or has he been successfully *completing* lots of jobs but only after a bunch of mistakes?
It was weird seeing Sam do an interrogation with no empathy whatsoever.
I was glad to see Dean considering talking to Lisa. (Bloody man.) I haven't forgotten that when Veritas asked if he was lying about wanting a family he said, "no". He need to talk to her already. BRING HER BACK!
There was a teensy piece of me that wanted Lucky to get his family back..(really really teensy)... UBER creepy that he was watching her in the shower...I am just completely creeped out by the idea of a pet sleeping in the same room as me. I just don't see how anyone would allow that big ole dog hop up on the bed while you're sleeping. I wouldn't have let him back in either.
So does EVERY monster have alphas now?
Loving the show. Loving the episodes. I liked that they laid out the arc storyline is bits over several episodes. Sam's missing soul storyline is really working for me. Purgatory seems a logical follow up to the Heaven and Hell mythology. But....I just realized the problem...I don't care.
Crowley wants the Alphas. Crowley wants to find Purgatory. I don't care about Crowley. I don't care that he wants to find Purgatory. There are no stakes for Sam and Dean with regard to this storyline. They haven't even set up the quest to find Sam's soul as something active that the brothers have to *do*. That's what's missing. Sam and Dean aren't the active heros where the arc story is concerned...they're being held hostage.
- Poor Lucky. That was seriously tear-dropping and heart-wreching stuff, the way he just staggered homeleess in the end...excuse me I think ihave something in my eye....
I'm so ready to get Sam's soul back. I was sort of enjoying the mystery around it for a while, but last night was painful, and I'm not talking about the sad dog. Love that Gwen was in Dean's speed dial. I didn't like Gwen at first, but now I wouldn't mind if that friendship grew a little. Hoping the next few episodes are a little better.
I felt that this was all very phsychological. The skinwalkers were just a ways to an ends to learn the truth about Sam, and the family not taking Lucky in even after all he did for them was, as rochey1 said, a parallel between dean and lisa.
I liked this episode, loved some of the one liners especially Dean calling Sam "Dexter". (to true right now) I got a little worried when they went to sit at the picnic table, but I liked that Sam was honest with Dean. Can not wait to see the next episode! It looks to be funny as h*ll!
That may be true, but the difference is that Dean took Sam in. Lisa did not take Dean in. Why? Because Dean put her child in danger. Lucky put whoever the girl's mame was's child in danger.
And... then...get this... SHOW has to show us, the poor Lucky limping away....and where's he going to go show... i'll take him......Oh thats right....can't...with him not being REAL and all. :((
*makes up own CANON*
Lucky nearly gets run over...but doesn't....Family see that he's hurt, and take him in...Family loves Lucky...Lucky lives happily ever after.... End scene....now was that really hard show :)))
I expected this episode to be intense, but i loved it. Sniper Dean was kinda more hot than he should be and I loved Sam's dog jokes when talking to Lucky. I almost fell over laughing. And the end scene with the 2 of them talking was great. I always love their little heart-to-heart conversations
Okay I must admit, after my least fav season so far came this episode and it absolutely rocked. I mean I loved the episode a lot, Sam and Dean were incredible and i gotta give it to Jared for bein such an amazing actor. Can't wait for next episode.
I agree - Sam and Dean are being held hostage by Crowley - BUT - Team Free Will does not like to be toyed with, so I'm guessing the fight-back will begin very soon.......I hope.
Rochey, Rochey, Rochey....... what can I say - you've made me very ashamed. Very, very ashamed....*hangs head* I did think Sam was hot as Robocop. That just proves how shallow and fangirly I've become. :(
But you know what? It's okay! Because I've figured it out - it was Jared who was hot - not Sam. So hey, I'm off the hook.....aren't I? (say yes Rochey) :)))
Sam's admission at the end just made me want to hug poor, poor Dean........ and that's only the 40000th time this show has made me want to do that. :P I love you Dean, even if Sam doesn't. <333
So this was a happy rant? Cos I gotta say I want to give you a big fat hug right now *hugs Rochey* There, there Rochey. Things will get better. Our guys will figure this out. They will. Or else......... *shakes fist at Sera & Co* >:(
OK, after finally watching the episode I casted a nervous side glance towards my cat....you never know ;)
I liked that Sam told Dean he doesn´t care about anybody. Seemed at least more realistic (without a soul) than his false caring behaviour nobody bought. If they ever make a new Terminator movie, they should call Jared. The "I´ve done a lot worse"-line from Sam makes me shiver. What´s there to come when they show us the year where he and Dean were apart?
By the way, is it just me or do the boys wear a lot more business suits than the seasons before?
You know I remember thinking as I watched this - they always used to wear the same color suits, but Sam's is grey. And yeah they do seem to be wearing them a lot . Not complaining here or anything ;)
Loved it. The MOTW story with dog-skinwalkers was adorable. Sniper Dean was....what's the word I'm looking for... I remember...very pleasing to the eye aka HOT!!! ;D Sam finally stopped pretending that it doesn't make a difference that his emotions are gone, thank you, I was getting tired of the 'It's stil me' line, because it's obviously a lie. The opening scene was fantastic, Crowley was back to his usual hilarious self. He was just too serious and cold in 'Family Matters'. And they mentioned Lisa which got my hopes up that we will see her again. :D
Wow, your posts are LONG!!! Love them! It's like a direct look into your head. *grins* I just wanted to say that you'll find about why Sam was standing outside Lisa's house. There will be an episode about it. ;D And I actually interprete the scene differently. I think Sam was checking on Dean, not out of worry but self-preservation. He avoided him because he know Dean would find about him being soulless. If he let Dean die, the other hunters would know sth. was wrong with Sam, since they know that Sam and Dean are suppposed to be pretty close. I'm sorry but I'm guilty of finding Robo!Sam very very attractive. Can you forgive me?
OMG that was so sad! I actually want Lucky to come back. We didn't meet the alpha!skinwalker, so they could do another skinwalker episode. Like they did with the alpha!vampire.
Maybe Sam was telling the truth when he said 'I would double-cross'. I don't trust Sam, even after his admission, I still think he's hiding something and he could have his own agenda.
Not complaining at all! They do look great in suits (who am I kidding. They would look even great wearing nothing...oh, and that didn´t come out the way I intended).
I think my TV colors are off. I only see blue suits.
Blue, grey - whatever - I just noticed they're different colors .......oh, and what you said: who cares what they're wearing. Or not wearing (not that I'm a fangirl or anything) ;P And of course it came out the way you intended. ;)........... go on, say it: Repeat after me: my name is airbat and I'm a fangirl. There now doesn't that feel better? ;))))
We'll agree to disagree about the self preservation thing... cause i really don't see it that way...and doubt the show will properly answer it....but you do...so i can respect that :)))
Of course Robo Sam is Hot... i'm guilty of drooling over him...if you read my last post for Family matters...Well...lets just say....massive hormonal overload ensued :))
Yeah.. but only on a shallow level...i've built up a fake...not mental at all relationship with the characters since the show started...so it's more than hot... I actually really care...tears and all :((
But... i don't care about this Sam at all... i care about his soul...but not his vessel... He could be run over... but i don't care... I can't...i'll end up hating real Sam...and i don't wanna :(
The more i see, and the more he does/says...He unnerves and repulses me....He's a Psychopath...and thats a fact... That's like ....me caring about Ted Bundy.... and believe me....Sam's Getting there... WHAT THE HELL is he gonna do next? *shakes head sadly*
Also.... i feel like One half of the show is missing....The Sam half :((
So...yeah...thats just me....can you forgive me for my epic Bi polar Rants?
Just wait...next week...they'll throw me a crumb... and i'll savour it...like the pathetic person that i am :((
MHO - Yeah..i believed him too...but he does whatever the hell he wants.....right there in the moment like a true Sociopath... So he'll say that, but change his mind...as quick as it takes me to blink...He's too unpredictable to trust at all :((
You totally read my mind.... I think everyone is Fancying Jared...cause THIS IS NOT SAM.....I knew you would support me....Am i in the minority...with the really hating ROBO Sam... I feel like i am....cause everyone's all....So hot/sexy Sam... but he's a PSYCHOPATH... How is that attractive :((
*shakes head sadly*
Yeah JILLYANNE...i def need hugs right now...That scene at the end was painful...and the way he so flippantly said it to Dean....Does anyone care that Dean had to hear that... Ok well... i'll hug Dean then.
*hugs Dean*
Sam admitted to Dean....that he knows it's wrong...but doesn't care...so that makes him cruel and a massive DICK BAG
*Try's to reconcile how SERA thought taking one half of the show away was a sensible idea*
We know Sera's always had a thing for Sam.....she's probably been looking for a chance to get him alone since S1. (Bad, bad Sera) See I figured it all out - I know where Sammy is. :)
Drum roll please:
Purgatory is Sera Gamble's basement!!
I bet she's got him locked in there doing unspeakably naughty - oooops - I mean nasty - things to him while we wait...... and wait....and wait. :(
Let Sammy go Sera - or we'll send Dean in there with his sniper's rifle and then you'll be sorry. >:( *cue evil villain laugh*
You want to join SAD Anon Rochey? Would that make you feel better? We could all be nut job fangirls together? Imbibe copious quantities of alcohol and wait for Sera to let our Sammy go? Or plot to storm that basement and free our sweet little Sammy? - we miss you Sammy <333
So I actually got around to watching this finally. Stupid hectic life... which actually involves dogs too. I rescue them from pounds and adopt them out, etc, and at the moment I've got five of them, all of whom were sitting and watching this episode with me. I'm sure a saw a few shifty eyes. I will deffo be locking the bathroom door when I shower from now on.
Anyway, I thought the episode was good and, one thing I always love about this show is, they take their time introducing the characters-of-the-week. In this case, Lucky. Sure, he was a creepy psycho with a tendancy to murder, but who here isn't like that a little?
What?
SO, while I liked the plot and how it carried through the ongoing threads, it left me a little... unsatisfied at the end. I'm a big fan of this season so far and I have faith it's all gonna be worth it. However, I think I'm actually so used to being gut-punched by the end of an episode, I was actually missing it this week. Sure, there was the talk between Dean and Sam at the end, but that wasn't nearly as teeth-kicking as it's been previously. Though, honestly, I think I'm probably the only one who will complain that it's not intense enough.
Sam... I've never been a huge fan of Sam anyway, so this whole storyline doesn't really get to me like it would if the roles were reversed. Saying that, the brotherly bond is what I tune in for, but I don't mind waiting a little longer for that to return... so long as they take their time to tell a complete story.
This episode was so great ;) Their talk at the end was sad , but at least Sammy stoped lying and pretending, but I still think it must have been pretty hard for Dean to actually hear Sam say these things, even so he already suspected it. Sam`s dog-jokes were so funny^^ and after this episode I`m glad I have two cats and not a dog^^ I´m pretty sure I`ll look different at dogs for the next couple of days ;P
Cool episode, really. I'm glad it wasn't all "OMG, Sam has no soul" heavy. It was actually entertaining and fun. And, I cannot believe I'm saying this, but soulless Sam is so funny lol I loved him in this episode. I mean, of course the "I don't really care about you" was heartbreaking, but at the same time it was really fun to see "Sam" so different from what we're used to. Funny different. So yeah, even though what he says is sad and awful and all, the way he says it is so freaking hilarious. lol I love it.
but the whole skinwalker thing was pretty gross if you ask me. And I totally felt for the poor dogs when they were shooting them, no matter if those were monsters or not.
And I still don't believe Crowley is the big guy. Or I just don't wanna believe it. (still missing ghosts hunt. just saying)
I thought it was another fantastic episode and like the way, at the end, how Sam admits to Dean that he wants to be the old Sam again. I just wonder how long this is going to take and what the consequences will be once Sam does get his soul. I believe he will get it back (somehow), and that it is just a question of how and when, and not if. I felt sorry for Lucky, too. He was only protecting the family who loved him. I think Dean felt something for him because of his protection of Lisa and Ben and now he is seeing more of of from someone else. The idea of a skinwalker is a little scary, though, but just another monster in Sam and Dean's eyes. Can't wait for Friday's episode! We definitely need something to lighten us up after the last few heartbreaking weeks. Fight the fairies! We are going to have this phrase on our brains all week!
I didn't feel as if we learned anything new in this episode, well except that Sam has killed some innocent people. Does he get a free pass for this because he has no soul? How will Sammy react to the way he has been acting this last year+ once he does get his soul back? Will S7 be the Sammy guilt season again? Will there be any character development for Sammy this season? Can't really happen when he has no soul? And will Dean ever learn to have fun again? Will we ever see Dean laugh again? Enjoy a meal again? Enjoy a beer wreath at Christmas time again? Have a prank war again? Shoot, will we ever see Dean getting laid ever again? I mean come on, he doesn't even have any hot passionate kisses with Lisa! I want my Dean back and I want Sammy with a soul back...like last week!
Yes, Lucky killed people. But he did it with good intentions. In fact, who else killed innocents with good intentions? Sam. And you can defend that with "Sam redeemed himself", but so did Lucky. He almost died for his family, and yet they still will not take him in. Yes, he did some horrible things, but as someone put it, no thing is so wrong that it can't be fixed.
But, sadly Lucky may become a monster because of his sadness. Sadness leads to hate.
Thanks for the offer....but I'll leave SAD ANON for when i really have to join....like say....a few episodes from now....cause this is only gonna get worse :((
*hugs Jillyanne's ankles from floor*
*picks self up... from epic cry fest....dusts self off*
I thought this episode was really , really good .It was good that it was a skin walker and not another wearwolf cause it was a good twist to it . Sam is far far gone sadly , also i think he is playing Dean douno , but the way Dean looked at Sam it looked like Dean did not believe what he was saying .
Sucks out loud when real life gets in the way don't it?
Yeah I missed the gut-punch too - but in a good way - it kinda gets exhausting after a while ya know?.....So it was just a little mini-break from all that intensity........Just don't do it again Sera!
And shhhh! *whispers* Don't say that too loud....(you know about not being a huge fan of 'you know who' ) the Samgirls will get you in your sleep. :P
One more thing.... mouthbreathing dickmonkey......
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God I loved it. LOVED the little talk they had at the end. Sammy cutting the crap. LOVE IT. Loved the dogs ahaha what can I say im a dog girl.
ReplyDeleteSome people saying crowley's got to much power..... :D well I LIKE IT! Turtore my sammy cmon. bring him back broken ahahhaha. I'm mean I know.
AW! They gave us a little Lisa mention. SEE! It's not hard just this makes me happy, as long as she is not forgotten... and comes back iventualy (eventualy?) hehehe.
GOSH and what ever I wanted to say my mind forgot it with that PROMO omg. Edmun wrote it or at least it's his idea.... GOD he is a god lol. AWESOME! It looks funny and I feel a little sammy time (which i dont care but if it makes happy other fans im all for it :DDD) FIGHT THE FAIRY omg and tinkerbell (la fée clochette) ahahah LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE okay. that's it. I'm thinking sam will get his soul in 2 weeks.
GOSH need to go to mcdo now (work.. no i dont have mcdo cravings) AW! Cant wait to be back and see what you guys thought. AND MAYBE THE PERSON WHO SAID POOR WILL TALK who knows ;)
That was good. Sniper Dean was pretty cool.
ReplyDeleteI felt so sad for Lucky.:(
Would've been nice to have some followup from Crowley.
Promo looks awesome. FIGHT THE FAIRIES!
I voted GOOD to be fair. But I DID like this episode. Sammy's little doggy jokes were hilarious! And Dean with a sniper was all kinds of right. They both kicked ass in this episode toward the end. I feel sorry for Lucky though. He saved that woman and her son and yet she basically kicked him. I understand that finding out that your dog was actually half human would freak you out, but the dude SAVED AND TOOK A SILVER BULLET FOR YOU!! Jeez, give him a break? :(
ReplyDeleteThe ending was so sad, but I'm glad that at least souless!Sam wants to get his soul back and wants to be Dean's brother again. Glad that the two of them reached a compromise (somewhat) on how to deal with this.
Next weeks episode should be freakin' hilarious! lol! FAIRIES??? Awesome. :D
I think this is exactly what I've been waiting for. The angst was lowered, the general storyline was alright and endearing, and Sam finally cut the bullshit and told the truth. I actually finished this episode without feeling like I was gonna die of overexposure to SPN's intensity O.o
ReplyDeleteWas I the only one who said "Oh wow... Gwen is on Dean's contact list!?"
ReplyDeleteIt was a good, solid ep. Dean certainly did not want to be pushed into letting Crowley pull his strings and I can't blame him. Crowley can't be trusted and no matter what they do, they will probably get screwed. I liked the parallel between the skinwalker's desire to protect the family and Dean's own desire to protect Lisa and Ben. It's sad that he realizes that no matter how much he needs them and how much he wants to be who they want him to be, they are safer without him. That's gotta be the hardest thing to handle, outside of having to look at your brother and knowing it's not really your brother.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Sam finally came clean. He admitted that he's been pretending and didn't really care about anyone -- even Dean -- but he needed his help and knew he'd leave if he didn't play it straight. I'm still not sure Sam is on the up and up and can be trusted, but Dean wants to believe him, so he will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm not that easily swayed, but he's allowing Dean to be the moral compass for the time being. As long as he sticks with that plan, he'll be okay. But even he admitted that in the skinwalker's position, he would've sold them out. He's being honest, but somehow that doesn't make me (or Dean) feel any better.
I did like the overall story -- and yes, Wilson, I was very surprised to see Gewn listed in Dean's phone contacts. But, I guess if you're gonna play nice with the Campbell hunting squad, you have to be able to contact them... or know when they are contacting you so...
And, jillyanne will like this -- pathetic fangirl moment: Dean Winchester is incredibly hot with a sniper rifle. Exactly when did they have time to practice long range shooting? No matter, Just another talent on his long list of... ahem... talents. ;)
The promo looks absolutely hilarious. "Find the fairies!" If they don't put Dean in jail, I'm sure he'll end up in a psyche ward. Maybe he can pray to Cas for a jailbreak?
I loved this episode. The show is getting better with each one. The one liners were fantastic. I think Sam won on those tonight. His finally admitting that he didn't care about Dean or anyone was so cut and dry and cruel and you know it had to hurt Dean, but it woke up a spark in Dean I think. Dean now wants to bring his brother back and will do whatever has to be done. Two really sad things....Lucky leaving and having nowhere to go. Dean looking at Lisa's name on his cell and not having the courage to call , or maybe having the courage not to call. This is more like the Supernatural I love. I do like how Jared is playing souless Sam. My gosh. He creepy at it, but sensational. Next week is going to be funny. From an interview I read from Kripke, he said he helped write it with Edlund and they both felt insane. Dean seems to be the only one who can see them. lol Jensen can play comedy so well, and I am curious as to how Sam will react to this.
ReplyDeleteA welcome break from the gut-wrenching intensity for sure. Phew - what a relief - Sam finally coming clean - still think he's hiding something tho, but maybe I'm paranoid. ;)
ReplyDeleteOh Sam. Taunting that poor dog - I mean man - skinwalker - or whatever........ You're so mean.......It was funny though (there's my sadistic side rearing its ugly head again)
ReplyDeleteAnd you're right Sue, Dean with a sniper rifle was hot, but then Sam was hot too - chasing down the dogs in the warehouse - RoboCop - yeah!..........sorry but there I go, equal opportunity fangirl that I am ;)
Poor Dean being carted off to a padded room. Hopefully it'll be as funny as it looks - although I thought LFoT was gonna be a riot and look how that turned out.
I'm must happier than I was last week. :-)
ReplyDeleteDean trying to navigate his way through the Sam situation was the standout element for me. And all the ways that Sam is..well...not Sam. "Shoot anyway!" Yeow. And he's killed innocent people. Yeow! Proved to me that Dean was right last week. Without his soul Sam's strategic calculations may not be 100% he needs to through some of the decision making to Dean. Sam would have killed two innocent people and still not accomplished the job. Um, it just occurred to me....Everyone's been saying Sam's a better hunter without is soul. Is he really? Or has he been successfully *completing* lots of jobs but only after a bunch of mistakes?
It was weird seeing Sam do an interrogation with no empathy whatsoever.
I was glad to see Dean considering talking to Lisa. (Bloody man.) I haven't forgotten that when Veritas asked if he was lying about wanting a family he said, "no". He need to talk to her already. BRING HER BACK!
There was a teensy piece of me that wanted Lucky to get his family back..(really really teensy)... UBER creepy that he was watching her in the shower...I am just completely creeped out by the idea of a pet sleeping in the same room as me. I just don't see how anyone would allow that big ole dog hop up on the bed while you're sleeping. I wouldn't have let him back in either.
So does EVERY monster have alphas now?
Loving the show. Loving the episodes. I liked that they laid out the arc storyline is bits over several episodes. Sam's missing soul storyline is really working for me. Purgatory seems a logical follow up to the Heaven and Hell mythology. But....I just realized the problem...I don't care.
Crowley wants the Alphas. Crowley wants to find Purgatory. I don't care about Crowley. I don't care that he wants to find Purgatory. There are no stakes for Sam and Dean with regard to this storyline. They haven't even set up the quest to find Sam's soul as something active that the brothers have to *do*. That's what's missing. Sam and Dean aren't the active heros where the arc story is concerned...they're being held hostage.
I am so seriously looking forward to the fairies.
ReplyDelete- Poor Lucky. That was seriously tear-dropping and heart-wreching stuff, the way he just staggered homeleess in the end...excuse me I think ihave something in my eye....
ReplyDeleteEverything else: meh.
Bu this ep gets 5/5 for the poor doggy itself :<
I actually cried when Lucky had to leave the family.
ReplyDeleteI'm so ready to get Sam's soul back. I was sort of enjoying the mystery around it for a while, but last night was painful, and I'm not talking about the sad dog. Love that Gwen was in Dean's speed dial. I didn't like Gwen at first, but now I wouldn't mind if that friendship grew a little. Hoping the next few episodes are a little better.
ReplyDeleteI felt that this was all very phsychological. The skinwalkers were just a ways to an ends to learn the truth about Sam, and the family not taking Lucky in even after all he did for them was, as rochey1 said, a parallel between dean and lisa.
ReplyDeleteI liked this episode, loved some of the one liners especially Dean calling Sam "Dexter". (to true right now) I got a little worried when they went to sit at the picnic table, but I liked that Sam was honest with Dean.
ReplyDeleteCan not wait to see the next episode! It looks to be funny as h*ll!
Actually I see it more as parallel between Sam and Dean, Sam being in the role of Lucky.
ReplyDeleteThat may be true, but the difference is that Dean took Sam in. Lisa did not take Dean in. Why? Because Dean put her child in danger. Lucky put whoever the girl's mame was's child in danger.
ReplyDeleteme too...
ReplyDeleteAnd... then...get this... SHOW has to show us, the poor Lucky limping away....and where's he going to go show... i'll take him......Oh thats right....can't...with him not being REAL and all. :((
ReplyDelete*makes up own CANON*
Lucky nearly gets run over...but doesn't....Family see that he's hurt, and take him in...Family loves Lucky...Lucky lives happily ever after.... End scene....now was that really hard show :)))
*is very pleased with herself*
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Yeah i agree Chris684 :) *waves*
ReplyDeleteWhy would he want his Soul.....better hunter....likes it... blah, blah, blah.....I think Sam is going to sabotage this... SABOTAGE...I SAY *pouts*
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I expected this episode to be intense, but i loved it. Sniper Dean was kinda more hot than he should be and I loved Sam's dog jokes when talking to Lucky. I almost fell over laughing. And the end scene with the 2 of them talking was great. I always love their little heart-to-heart conversations
ReplyDeleteOkay I must admit, after my least fav season so far came this episode and it absolutely rocked. I mean I loved the episode a lot, Sam and Dean were incredible and i gotta give it to Jared for bein such an amazing actor. Can't wait for next episode.
ReplyDeleteI agree - Sam and Dean are being held hostage by Crowley - BUT - Team Free Will does not like to be toyed with, so I'm guessing the fight-back will begin very soon.......I hope.
ReplyDeleteRochey, Rochey, Rochey....... what can I say - you've made me very ashamed. Very, very ashamed....*hangs head*
ReplyDeleteI did think Sam was hot as Robocop. That just proves how shallow and fangirly I've become. :(
But you know what? It's okay! Because I've figured it out - it was Jared who was hot - not Sam. So hey, I'm off the hook.....aren't I? (say yes Rochey) :)))
Sam's admission at the end just made me want to hug poor, poor Dean........ and that's only the 40000th time this show has made me want to do that. :P
I love you Dean, even if Sam doesn't. <333
So this was a happy rant? Cos I gotta say I want to give you a big fat hug right now *hugs Rochey* There, there Rochey. Things will get better. Our guys will figure this out. They will. Or else.........
*shakes fist at Sera & Co* >:(
OK, after finally watching the episode I casted a nervous side glance towards my cat....you never know ;)
ReplyDeleteI liked that Sam told Dean he doesn´t care about anybody. Seemed at least more realistic (without a soul) than his false caring behaviour nobody bought. If they ever make a new Terminator movie, they should call Jared. The "I´ve done a lot worse"-line from Sam makes me shiver. What´s there to come when they show us the year where he and Dean were apart?
By the way, is it just me or do the boys wear a lot more business suits than the seasons before?
You know I remember thinking as I watched this - they always used to wear the same color suits, but Sam's is grey. And yeah they do seem to be wearing them a lot . Not complaining here or anything ;)
ReplyDeleteLoved it. The MOTW story with dog-skinwalkers was adorable. Sniper Dean was....what's the word I'm looking for... I remember...very pleasing to the eye aka HOT!!! ;D Sam finally stopped pretending that it doesn't make a difference that his emotions are gone, thank you, I was getting tired of the 'It's stil me' line, because it's obviously a lie. The opening scene was fantastic, Crowley was back to his usual hilarious self. He was just too serious and cold in 'Family Matters'. And they mentioned Lisa which got my hopes up that we will see her again. :D
ReplyDeleteI also liked that this episode was all puppies and love. ;D OK, not love but more light-hearded and funny. Even soulless Sam had some funny moments.
ReplyDeleteWow, your posts are LONG!!! Love them! It's like a direct look into your head. *grins* I just wanted to say that you'll find about why Sam was standing outside Lisa's house. There will be an episode about it. ;D And I actually interprete the scene differently. I think Sam was checking on Dean, not out of worry but self-preservation. He avoided him because he know Dean would find about him being soulless. If he let Dean die, the other hunters would know sth. was wrong with Sam, since they know that Sam and Dean are suppposed to be pretty close. I'm sorry but I'm guilty of finding Robo!Sam very very attractive. Can you forgive me?
ReplyDeleteOMG that was so sad! I actually want Lucky to come back. We didn't meet the alpha!skinwalker, so they could do another skinwalker episode. Like they did with the alpha!vampire.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Sam was telling the truth when he said 'I would double-cross'. I don't trust Sam, even after his admission, I still think he's hiding something and he could have his own agenda.
ReplyDeleteNot complaining at all! They do look great in suits (who am I kidding. They would look even great wearing nothing...oh, and that didn´t come out the way I intended).
ReplyDeleteI think my TV colors are off. I only see blue suits.
Blue, grey - whatever - I just noticed they're different colors .......oh, and what you said: who cares what they're wearing. Or not wearing (not that I'm a fangirl or anything) ;P
ReplyDeleteAnd of course it came out the way you intended. ;)...........
go on, say it:
Repeat after me: my name is airbat and I'm a fangirl.
There now doesn't that feel better? ;))))
OK, here we go...
ReplyDeleteMy name is airbat and I´m a fangirl.
Hmmm, wasn´t so hard now, was it`?
Alright! *high five* Well done airbat. :)))
ReplyDeleteNow you can officially join SAD Anon.........she can, can't she E.C? SuePo?
I loved what Sam said about why he thought he *should* get his soul back. I believed him.
ReplyDeleteHi claudia :))
ReplyDeleteWe'll agree to disagree about the self preservation thing... cause i really don't see it that way...and doubt the show will properly answer it....but you do...so i can respect that :)))
Of course Robo Sam is Hot... i'm guilty of drooling over him...if you read my last post for Family matters...Well...lets just say....massive hormonal overload ensued :))
Yeah.. but only on a shallow level...i've built up a fake...not mental at all relationship with the characters since the show started...so it's more than hot... I actually really care...tears and all :((
But... i don't care about this Sam at all... i care about his soul...but not his vessel... He could be run over... but i don't care... I can't...i'll end up hating real Sam...and i don't wanna :(
The more i see, and the more he does/says...He unnerves and repulses me....He's a Psychopath...and thats a fact... That's like ....me caring about Ted Bundy.... and believe me....Sam's Getting there... WHAT THE HELL is he gonna do next? *shakes head sadly*
Also.... i feel like One half of the show is missing....The Sam half :((
So...yeah...thats just me....can you forgive me for my epic Bi polar Rants?
Just wait...next week...they'll throw me a crumb... and i'll savour it...like the pathetic person that i am :((
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Hi prpleight :)) *waves*
ReplyDeleteMHO - Yeah..i believed him too...but he does whatever the hell he wants.....right there in the moment like a true Sociopath... So he'll say that, but change his mind...as quick as it takes me to blink...He's too unpredictable to trust at all :((
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Oh Jillyanne :)))
ReplyDelete*glomps Jillyanne*
You totally read my mind.... I think everyone is Fancying Jared...cause THIS IS NOT SAM.....I knew you would support me....Am i in the minority...with the really hating ROBO Sam... I feel like i am....cause everyone's all....So hot/sexy Sam... but he's a PSYCHOPATH... How is that attractive :((
*shakes head sadly*
Yeah JILLYANNE...i def need hugs right now...That scene at the end was painful...and the way he so flippantly said it to Dean....Does anyone care that Dean had to hear that... Ok well... i'll hug Dean then.
*hugs Dean*
Sam admitted to Dean....that he knows it's wrong...but doesn't care...so that makes him cruel and a massive DICK BAG
*Try's to reconcile how SERA thought taking one half of the show away was a sensible idea*
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'nother hug Rochey? *biiiiig hug*
ReplyDeleteWe know Sera's always had a thing for Sam.....she's probably been looking for a chance to get him alone since S1. (Bad, bad Sera)
See I figured it all out - I know where Sammy is. :)
Drum roll please:
Purgatory is Sera Gamble's basement!!
I bet she's got him locked in there doing unspeakably naughty - oooops - I mean nasty - things to him while we wait...... and wait....and wait. :(
Let Sammy go Sera - or we'll send Dean in there with his sniper's rifle and then you'll be sorry. >:(
*cue evil villain laugh*
You want to join SAD Anon Rochey? Would that make you feel better? We could all be nut job fangirls together? Imbibe copious quantities of alcohol and wait for Sera to let our Sammy go? Or plot to storm that basement and free our sweet little Sammy? - we miss you Sammy <333
We welcome everyone. BYOB.
ReplyDeleteSo I actually got around to watching this finally. Stupid hectic life... which actually involves dogs too. I rescue them from pounds and adopt them out, etc, and at the moment I've got five of them, all of whom were sitting and watching this episode with me. I'm sure a saw a few shifty eyes. I will deffo be locking the bathroom door when I shower from now on.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I thought the episode was good and, one thing I always love about this show is, they take their time introducing the characters-of-the-week. In this case, Lucky. Sure, he was a creepy psycho with a tendancy to murder, but who here isn't like that a little?
What?
SO, while I liked the plot and how it carried through the ongoing threads, it left me a little... unsatisfied at the end. I'm a big fan of this season so far and I have faith it's all gonna be worth it. However, I think I'm actually so used to being gut-punched by the end of an episode, I was actually missing it this week. Sure, there was the talk between Dean and Sam at the end, but that wasn't nearly as teeth-kicking as it's been previously. Though, honestly, I think I'm probably the only one who will complain that it's not intense enough.
Sam... I've never been a huge fan of Sam anyway, so this whole storyline doesn't really get to me like it would if the roles were reversed. Saying that, the brotherly bond is what I tune in for, but I don't mind waiting a little longer for that to return... so long as they take their time to tell a complete story.
One more thing... Dickbag.
Baha.
Another great episode as always. I love Jared's performance, he's a good actor ad his acting skills are very convincing.
ReplyDeleteThis episode was so great ;) Their talk at the end was sad , but at least Sammy stoped lying and pretending, but I still think it must have been pretty hard for Dean to actually hear Sam say these things, even so he already suspected it.
ReplyDeleteSam`s dog-jokes were so funny^^ and after this episode I`m glad I have two cats and not a dog^^ I´m pretty sure I`ll look different at dogs for the next couple of days ;P
*blushing*
ReplyDeleteand a humble "Thank you".
Cool episode, really. I'm glad it wasn't all "OMG, Sam has no soul" heavy. It was actually entertaining and fun. And, I cannot believe I'm saying this, but soulless Sam is so funny lol I loved him in this episode. I mean, of course the "I don't really care about you" was heartbreaking, but at the same time it was really fun to see "Sam" so different from what we're used to. Funny different. So yeah, even though what he says is sad and awful and all, the way he says it is so freaking hilarious. lol I love it.
ReplyDeletebut the whole skinwalker thing was pretty gross if you ask me. And I totally felt for the poor dogs when they were shooting them, no matter if those were monsters or not.
And I still don't believe Crowley is the big guy. Or I just don't wanna believe it.
(still missing ghosts hunt. just saying)
Loved it! I liked how Sam finally admitted the truth. Feel bad for him, though.
ReplyDeleteAnd thats why he has Dean. :-)
ReplyDeleteI thought it was another fantastic episode and like the way, at the end, how Sam admits to Dean that he wants to be the old Sam again. I just wonder how long this is going to take and what the consequences will be once Sam does get his soul. I believe he will get it back (somehow), and that it is just a question of how and when, and not if.
ReplyDeleteI felt sorry for Lucky, too. He was only protecting the family who loved him. I think Dean felt something for him because of his protection of Lisa and Ben and now he is seeing more of of from someone else.
The idea of a skinwalker is a little scary, though, but just another monster in Sam and Dean's eyes.
Can't wait for Friday's episode! We definitely need something to lighten us up after the last few heartbreaking weeks.
Fight the fairies! We are going to have this phrase on our brains all week!
I didn't feel as if we learned anything new in this episode, well except that Sam has killed some innocent people. Does he get a free pass for this because he has no soul? How will Sammy react to the way he has been acting this last year+ once he does get his soul back? Will S7 be the Sammy guilt season again? Will there be any character development for Sammy this season? Can't really happen when he has no soul? And will Dean ever learn to have fun again? Will we ever see Dean laugh again? Enjoy a meal again? Enjoy a beer wreath at Christmas time again? Have a prank war again? Shoot, will we ever see Dean getting laid ever again? I mean come on, he doesn't even have any hot passionate kisses with Lisa!
ReplyDeleteI want my Dean back and I want Sammy with a soul back...like last week!
How can anyone feel sad for Lucky? He killed innocent men! Come on...Lucky needs to be put down...he is a monster and he is evil.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing: Int he promo's for ADGTH they had "Doubt" and "Betrayal" as tag lines for the eppy...what happen with those themes?
ReplyDeleteHi.... Maybe the stupid idiots have given away a spoiler for an upcoming episode *massive face palm*
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Hi cns3e *waves*
ReplyDeleteYeah CMON people DAMAGE CONTROL like... as in yesterday :)))
SAM is so F**KED when he gets his soul back :(((
*takes guns/pills/knife/noose/anything lethal away from Sammy*
Yeah.... true prpleight :)
ReplyDeleteBut somehow....i don't think it's enough...ya know :((
Yes, Lucky killed people. But he did it with good intentions. In fact, who else killed innocents with good intentions? Sam. And you can defend that with "Sam redeemed himself", but so did Lucky. He almost died for his family, and yet they still will not take him in. Yes, he did some horrible things, but as someone put it, no thing is so wrong that it can't be fixed.
ReplyDeleteBut, sadly Lucky may become a monster because of his sadness. Sadness leads to hate.
Hi cns3e *waves* :))
ReplyDelete*pouts*
But...but the puppy dog eyes :(
How can you resist the puppy dog eyes in this show *shakes head sadly*
Sammy....Cas...Now Lucky <33
And Sam is a PSYCHOPATH right now....he just admitted to killing innocent people and much worse :((
Is he a monster/evil ?
Oh...Jillyanne :))
ReplyDeleteThanks for the offer....but I'll leave SAD ANON for when i really have to join....like say....a few episodes from now....cause this is only gonna get worse :((
*hugs Jillyanne's ankles from floor*
*picks self up... from epic cry fest....dusts self off*
*holds puny fists up*
'RIGHT BRING IT ON SHOW....I'M READY FOR YA'
Right!!!!
ReplyDelete*grabs pitch fork and follows Jillyanne*
Wheres Sera's Basement?
Is SAD ANON coming too?
What will we call ourselves SAMS SOUL BRIGADE ?
Why am i asking so many questions....LET'S GO....X Factors on tonight :))
Hi Prpleight :))
ReplyDeleteFIGHT THE FAIRIES!!!!!!!!! LMFAO
BRING IT ON!!!!
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Yeah i agree :)))
ReplyDeleteBut...but it's not really TEAM FREE WILL though is it!! :((
FREE = Cas = not to be trusted = he lying
WILL = Sam = god knows where he is at the mo = he lying
So it's just TEAM....but.... it's not really much of one *crys*
I thought this episode was really , really good .It was good that it was a skin walker and not another wearwolf cause it was a good twist to it . Sam is far far gone sadly , also i think he is playing Dean douno , but the way Dean looked at Sam it looked like Dean did not believe what he was saying .
ReplyDeleteSam really needs his soul. However Jared is doing a great job playing soulless Sam. Now I am wondering about dogs. Thanks SN.
ReplyDeleteSucks out loud when real life gets in the way don't it?
ReplyDeleteYeah I missed the gut-punch too - but in a good way - it kinda gets exhausting after a while ya know?.....So it was just a little mini-break from all that intensity........Just don't do it again Sera!
And shhhh! *whispers* Don't say that too loud....(you know about not being a huge fan of 'you know who' ) the Samgirls will get you in your sleep. :P
One more thing.... mouthbreathing dickmonkey......