Writer Sara Bibel took a stab at critiquing the show House on the website fancast.com and while I respect any viewer's opinion, since, after all, we are just sharing our opinions in this industry, it made me wonder if she is watching the same show I am.
She writes, "House is in serious condition...the obvious explanation is that the audience is disappointed with this season's focus on the romantic relationship between House and Cuddy."
Hmmm. I know many fans that might disagree with that opinion, however here is where I think Miss Bibel is coming from. Many people tune into House on USA, Bravo, sometimes on FOX when the new episodes air, but House is a show often out of order, marathon style, and typically without much focus on the main character's evolution. House is the reason why we all tune in, right? So why is it a good idea for the show to back track and put him back in the same position he was in during the first season? Yes, he's a little different right now than he started. He should be! This show started in 2004 before we could even look up clips on youtube. Why? Because youtube.com was invented in 2005. A lot has happened to this character in the six years we've been watching him. You want the same guy you started with? I'm sure a different complaint would arise: "Man, I wish that House show were still around. It got canceled after five seasons because everyone was sick of seeing the same thing every single episode with no character development."
So why is it that everytime he smiles, (gasp!), we're sounding the alarm? Give him a chance. And if you think the pairing with Cuddy is wrong, I encourage you to rewatch the pilot, where their chemistry begins, the end of season two, where she trusts him to help her with invitro, season three where he follows her on her date, season four where he fantasizes about her stripping, season five, where he hallucinates that they had sex and wants to live with her, and then all the way into season six where he pursues her fully. This storyline did not come out of nowhere.
Bibel writes, "Each episode focused on a patient with a mysterious ailment, but the show’s chief pleasure came from watching House berate, belittle and mock everyone around him. He got away with it because he really was the smartest person in the room and because the audience was privy to his inner demons, particularly his drug addiction. They are what made him one of the most fascinating characters on television. Unfortunately, they no longer exist."
Imagine a buzzer going off. Wrong, try again. In the episode "Selfish," it's safe to say House was just as rude as ever at the end to the patient's parents and I can't imagine that his sparring with Taub will go away, especially since Taub now can't stand his relationship with Cuddy. Bibel is right in some ways though, this is a far cry from where we started, but it was because of a natural progression, we landed here. So he's off drugs. So he's in a relationship. House is still House. He's still immature, brilliant, and not used to showing anyone his vulnerable side, so let's wait and watch and see how the writers are going to explore this side of House, his relationship side, which we haven't seen for an extended period of time in the series.
Here's one thing Bibel mentions that I agree with: "The show has also been impacted by a routine TV disease: Changing Supporting Cast Syndrome. Cameron (Jennifer Morrison) was written off the show. Thirteen is out for much of the season due to Olivia Wilde landing several film roles. Kal Penn, who played Kutner, left at the end of Season five to work for the White House. A revolving door never helps a long-running series."
I still don't understand why Cameron was written off, and I know many House fans didn't like her, but I did. Not sure why she went away. As for the other cast changes, yes, they affect the show, but truthfully, as long as Wilson, Cuddy, and House stick around, I won't be going anywhere as a fan.
Here she goes again: "The mysteries on the show used to be surprising and thought-provoking." Again, are we watching the same show? And also, give the show a break. There have been six seasons of crazy patient illnesses, wacky clinic patients, and bizarre symptoms. This season, I think you'll be excited by next week's patient, an author who wants to off herself before one of her next book's is written. Amy Irving playing her is just an added bonus.
So while I think this show is a bit different from where it began, I don't think it needs fixing. I think it needs some breathing room and some faith from its fans. Go back, rewatch the old ones in order. You'll understand how we arrived at the place we are, and you'll appreciate the payoff House and Cuddy earned by the end of season six. It's been a long road of avoidance, dishonesty, and bad timing for both of them. Why can't we let them have a bit of happiness in season seven?
I think they earned it.
You can find Sara Bibel's article in full here: Diagnosing House: How Can the Show Heal Itself?
And you can follow me on @TVTherapy, where you'll most likely find that I am even more opinionated.
House: Response to a Fancast Critic
30 Sept 2010
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Wow, you seem to think you know me. First off, I'm not a "Huddy" fan or into to any "ship" (as I choke down the vomit), I can't even stand typing those juvenile terms. I also hate shows about romance, sex, and superficial on again/off again bed hopping like Grey's Anatomy. Thankfully, this show has always handled their relationships, of any kind, in an atypical way. They're very analytical about it with a focus on awkwardness, cynicism, uneasiness, and fear. There's really very little romance to it, in the traditional sense. They don't go for the boring primal passionate attractions where they only love each other because they love each other and I greatly appreciate that. I have a feeling that's the kind of romance Shore might have been talking about. What it amounts to is I love the character of House and love to watch him handle any kind of situation.
ReplyDeleteThe character's personalities have been very consistent. There was clearly a connection between House and Cuddy from the start, including a practically direct mention as early as season 2. You're right, the show is not about romance, but it is about House and we've seen him deal with relationships with lady persons (as Stephen Fry would say) before, there was Cameron in season 1, and a good chunk of season 2 dealt with Stacy. We got to see him work through a past love through Stacy and now I'm interested to see how he handles the start of a relationship.
The only inconsistency was where House went to school and when he got expelled, however, it's a rather superficial plot issue that's not exactly pivotal in the grand scheme.
As for ratings, they do not tell you if a show is good or bad. I've seen many hugely popular shows that are complete drivel and some really great shows with low ratings. Popularity means nothing when judging art. However, they do help keep a show on the air, so in that vein, having young females as a fan base is not a bad thing, just ask Justin Bieber and the writer of Twilight. Advertisers pay more for shows that get young audiences and people in marketing consider females to be the "gatekeepers" for their families, so they're targeted more often than males. Plus, according to this chart (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/28/ladies-night-few-broadcast-primetime-shows-draw-more-men-than-women/50011) House isn't anywhere near one of the most gender splitting shows. Out of curiosity, where did you find the information that the ratings for males specifically went down this season?
I agree with parts of Sara Bibel's article and parts of your "critique." I agree that House couldn't stay the EXACT same character forever. Duh. I don't entirely agree that the medical mysteries are less interesting - they still manage to put in some good ones, but they did seem to put them on the backburner, which I'm not happy with. What happened to the many episodes where the medical mysteries were freaking awesome and actually relevant to plot and character growth? I also think that the show is suffering from cast change. I've never particularly liked Foreman, Chase has no real role in the show anymore, Taub isn't interesting at ALL... Thirteen's the most interesting one and her hiatus is very felt. And Cameron needs to come back. Period. The end. One of my favorite characters, bar none (Maybe THAT'S why HIMYM is beating House...Jennifer Morrison as a leading role this season and all). "House" used to be about House, his team, and Cuddy and Wilson as background, respectively. Now suddenly they're leading roles...
ReplyDeleteAs for Huddy: there's no other explanation for the low ratings. I'll admit that I've never been a Cuddy fan (she has her moments, but they were few and far between for me), and I personally think that the Cameron-House interactions were always more interesting to watch than Cuddy-House. But the biggest point is that House MD is a MEDICAL drama, not a romance soap opera. I by no means will be abandoning the show, but I've watched Huddy for the first two episodes this season and I'm already bored. I enjoyed the ethical dilemma in "Selfish," but even that plot point took background to Huddy - instead of focusing on the drama and interest of a terminally ill brother trading his life for his sister's, it was more about Huddy having their first fight!!! OMG! Not. Thankfully, I have faith that the writers of House will bring back the quality and elegance of past seasons, and find a way to artfully sink Huddy into a minor plot point, or do away with it completely. The show's called House MD - as in Gregory House, amazingly awesome and interesting DOCTOR - as in MEDICAL doctor, not "love" doctor.
yes it does mean the story is bad ,bad for the show. Why don't you Huddy fans just simply admit that you like this because they show you these 2 characters having sex and being together? It's ok, we all get that but you must also understand that if you don't root for this ship and if you don't watch a show for romance then this isn't entertaining. An episode of House and Cuddy being cuddly inside House's apartment is boring unless you are a huge fan of the paring and it would be boring no matter what the pairing is.
ReplyDeleteThis show wasn't about romance,now it is and the writers are not good at writing it, it is cliche, it's boring, it is a contradiction, they don't fit, it's just bad and a lot of things are being ignored ,they rewrote history of the characters,they forgot past seasons ,everything which makes it lack consistency . Shore once said he's bad at writing romance, these people are just bad at it and it would suck no matter what the pairing. When you change the whole dynamic of a show and the concept then you will lose the audience . It's a known fact that the most important demo is slowly moving away from the show and the age average has gone down and moved towards younger and adolescent females so..
House finding happiness is more broadly about him not being alone anymore. That could be Cuddy (who's the easiest/freshest/best supported route), Wilson, Alvie, Lydia, Stacey, his team, Lucas, or someone new. He was pretty insistent in trying to get rid of Sam, around the same level as with Lucas. I didn't say it was "about" Wilson, I said Wilson was part of it. You can't simply make up that House was handling the idea of Cuddy and Lucas just as badly when Wilson was around when there is no support for that in the show and they basically said the reverse in "Baggage." He certainly considers Cuddy more important than the death of a patient (and by the way his response to that was about far more than her death), and I'm not in any way saying he didn't want to be with Cuddy. He just dealt with not having her better when he had Wilson and wasn't completely alone.
ReplyDeleteYou said "Anyway, no matter what you say and how reasonable your logic will be, I seriously doubt that you'll manage to change what people think about amount of Huddy in season 6."
That is precisely what I mean by it being in your head. You don't like it so you focus on it. The irritation magnifies and distorts moments, tainting your perception of the whole show. If logic can not sway your outlook, your analysis comes from emotion and therefore, it's in your head. I have news for you, the House/Cuddy tension was there from the start, you just didn't notice. It was admittedly subtle, but still had a near direct mention as early as the end of season 2. I lent a friend the first DVD and when he returned it, he asked if House and Cuddy were together yet.
And again, for me, House's seeking happiness leads straight to Huddy. If it was about Wilson, he'd be more insistent in trying to get rid of Sam. I'm also not convinced that House wasn't a mess over the idea of Luddy. He didn't seem like it but still, he's House and he hardly ever shows what's going in his head, not to mention his heart. Secondly, if House didn't consider Cuddy as the most important thing in his life, he shouldn't be so eager to leave the events of the evening behind and jump head first into a relationship (and bed) with her.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, no matter what you say and how reasonable your logic will be, I seriously doubt that you'll manage to change what people think about amount of Huddy in season 6. What's not enough for Huddies, is damn too much for everyone who's not a fan of this pairing. In fact, I'm sick and tired because of the Huddy-tension that started at the end of 5x05 and is present ever since. On top of that, there were all those Huddy-spoilers that made it clear Huddy will happen sooner or later which only made things worse.
And I guess that anti-Huddy can't see the truth too, even when there was a little mention of House/Cuddy in season 6, the whole episode was bullshit!! Really unbiased!! (cf KittyMD)
ReplyDeleteSeriously, this fight between the fandom is ridiculous! As dfreak said, it's been only 2 episodes this season and some are talking as if it was the whole season that had been run! This show is about House, so his relationship with whoever will affect him, even more with the woman being Cuddy.
Some seems to say he doesn't have the right to have a relationship, and that man should just do medical cases... lol I hope you don't wish tha same to your own doctor!!
Then again some want more focus on the medical case... when they sure doesn't understand a damn thing about medecine! and I don't talk about all the mistakes with the medical practice and the way of finding the diagnosis that is unbelivable even if House is the most talented guy... believe me that he does stupid things to diagnose his patients, that even a lambda doctor wouldn't do because there are better way to diagnose! So stop with that complaining about more medical cases!
House is a human being, even if he's very corrupted ;) and I love to see him struggle to keep a relationship working.
If I ask you to summarize one ep... what will you remember? the patient and his final diagnose?... maybe. But not the way they obtained it!! But I bet you will remember very well the side-story of the life of Gregory House!!
The ratings have dropped? Come on it's the 7th season! Do you really think that if it was all about medical cases the rating will have remained above 20 millions? LMAO
And I saw ratings for the 2nd episode, House was second behind DWTS, not HIMYM! I also think the time slot have is own part in the ratings. Seriously, House MD at 8pm?
PS: And yes, I almost forgot!! House is a soap opera?? Then how do you call the real soap opera?
Not true - 17 mil tuned in for the S6 premiere. 10.8 mil tuned into S7 premiere about the same number that watched the S6 finale, which was 10.8 mil and as you know that had a lot of Huddy.
ReplyDeleteSo you're suggesting that after reading SB's critique people will be adding House back on their TiVo list? I have at least five co-workers who watched all the way through S6 and dropped House for S7 due to the S6 finale. They said the show's format and the Huddy had pushed into the realm of ridiculous and stupid.
ReplyDeleteI happen to agree with Sarah Bibel. I took House off my TiVo list when I found out the S7 focus would be all Huddy pretty much all the time. I watch the show for Wilson and the House/Wilson relationship. I used to like the medical dramas too until they got ridiculous. If Huddy is so popular why are the ratings going down, down, down, down? In the American market, it appears a large number of House fans have moved on. I think David Shore is a pompous ass who believes his own hype. I don't care about House love jones for Cuddy. I don't want to watch a wrinkled 50 something acting like a teenager. I'm not interested in Cuddy magical vagina or the Cudfdy Vagina Chronicles.
ReplyDeleteBut if you had to point only ONE main subject that was brought up in season 6, what would it be? And if you're going to say it was House's therapy I remind you Nolan's conclusion that most of House's problems were caused by his unfulfilled love to Cuddy.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all i'm just gonna give my opinion and i want to apologize in advance for the mistakes i will do because i'm not english i'm french.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about you but everytime i told people who doesn't watch the show that house is my favourite many many people told me :"it's always the same thing : somebody has a probleme then opening title then house start to search then at some point he finds out then the end" i always told them that i disagree but that's what an objectiv person who doesn't watch the show thinks. and they actually didn't believe me when i told them that since season 4 if you miss one episode you won't understand anything.
I'm not gonna insult anyone because people have their own opinion and screaming and shouting lead to nothing but for me in this story no one will ever be right or wrong if the same thing would have happened with cameron people would have say bad things too and if nothing happene they would have still be things going on.
In my opinion house would have dated anyone i would still be enjoying it because even if you're not interested in huddy the first question people ( in my opinion ) should be asking is : how is it going to be ? I mean most of us have been watching the show from the beginning and we know how screwed up House is and putting house and relatonship in the same sentence is like saying that fire is cold.
And as people already said it the show is about House and everything that concerns him. Yes puzzle are a part of his life but if he is in a relationshp but they dont show it that much it will we weird. ( okay i think it's the worst sentence i ever siad don't even know if that means anything)
Now i think whoever wants keep watching the show and see how it goes. It's been only two weeks you know there are still 20 episodes for this season.
Anyway i just hope that if they consider cancelling the show because of the ratings i hope they will also consider the ratings all around the world. Because even if it's not the most watched show in US it is in other countries because here in france it is the most watched show ( with The Mentalist )
I know that some people will probably disagree with what i just said but please don't insult me pretty please !! =D
I'm a nice girl =D
EDIT : and yes if people are wondering : YES i like Cuddy , YES i like huddy but i also liked house's relationship with stacy and his friendship with wilson and i shed a tear when cameron left i just don't like people who insult others just because of their opinion
We should first wait for all as the season goes on 7th Finally, we have seen only 2 episodes! First it was clear that Huddy is placed in the foreground! But I think the producers know what they do! And for all the Huddy not like or just look back more physicians want for the season is determined also interesting. I think that is not the producers Huddy can stand in the foreground, but the everything back to normal except that it is the dependent relationship.
ReplyDeleteSo you're saying that a season is about some pairing only when most of the episodes is about "House/someone Only"? Well, that's just silly. I can't remember a single episode focusing ONLY on House's relationship with somebody, because there always were patients and many other things. It's "House MD" and not "Hameron/Hilson/Huddy MD", after all. And yet, House/Cam shippers claim that S01 belongs to Hameron and there's general opinion that S02 was about House/Stacy. Gee, I almost feel sorry for you if you can't fully enjoy the innuendos present in most of the episodes and instead need House and Cuddy naked for half of an ep to say 'yes, there was Huddy'.
ReplyDeleteWell, I really don't think Christina was simply referring to a general theme of the season, I know there are others who definitely were specifically addressing the amount of time purely dedicated to House/Cuddy. None-the-less, I'll play. I would say season 6, as a whole, was about House seeking happiness, there were several ways he pursued this throughout the season, with living with Wilson, if anything, being at the forefront. Just because the culmination of that pursuit was a relationship with Cuddy, doesn't mean everything in the season was only about House and Cuddy getting together.
ReplyDeleteI also need to address that Nolan never said "most of House's problems were caused by his unfulfilled love to Cuddy." What he did propose was that House's down slide could be caused by the people in his life leaving him, which includes Cuddy, Wilson, and Alvie. Don't get me wrong Cuddy was a major part of that. Nolan was likely right that she was the reason House focused so much on the case and there's the significance that he neglected to mention it, but that doesn't make her the sole source of his increased unhappiness. House also added that he's been trying everything he's been told and everyone (ergo more people than Cuddy) is happy except him. Remember, House wasn't a complete mess over the idea of Cuddy and Lucas moving in together until Wilson abandoned him as well. In short, that episode had far more depth than House loves Cuddy, House can't have Cuddy, House sad.
That's always the complaint I get from people in the real world too, that the show is always the same.
ReplyDeleteLet keeps things poilite now everyone.
ReplyDeleteNo personal insults are allowed here.
This goes for everyone.
Please be respectful of other peoples opinions.
Again, you missed the point. The only thing that it does prove is that you lack interpretation skills.
ReplyDeleteThat's what changed over the last two seasons? Where were you after "Both Sides Now"? You know, when House actually checked himself into a psych ward in a season that had barely any Huddy and generated episodes that ranked the lowest in ratings since season 1.
ReplyDeleteOf course you won't come back to read anyone's comments; that's what bitter, ignorant non-eloquent people lacking arguments do. Frankly, all you're doing is a favor by not coming back.
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ReplyDeletehuddys, you're pathetic ...LOL
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many of you write comments with different names.
The truth is there for anyone to see: huddy is ruining the show.
You can continue trumpeting the success huddy where you guys want, but it's pointless because it will not bring viewers back.
I have said many times, that most people do not walk on websites / blogs / answering polls ... they just do not watch.
There is evidence that the viewers does not want this boring soap that is dominating the show since season 5.
So, enjoy huddy while is still possible.
Kisses.
->Start barking ... I'll not come here to read your comments.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I haven't even watched any of the episode from season 7 because I know I'll get sick from seeing all the love-ness and not see what I want; House being his bad-butt self as he diagnoses patients while torturing his subordinates and flirts endlessly with Cuddy. I'm a Huddy fan - have been since season 1, but to me at least, I just feel that the relationship should be put into the middle ground, not pushed into the foreground like it appears to be.
ReplyDeleteHopefully they'll go back to showing a new weird and interesting case every week. right now it's a soap opera :/
Yeah, right, Huddy in S06 was only in our heads. We imagined all these scenes where House seemed to feel worse because Cuddy didn't want him, there wasn't House's betrayed expression when he saw Lucas in Cuddy's room during the conference and Wilson never brought up the subject of House's feelings toward Cuddy and/or Luddy. Uh-huh. And of course Nolan have never mentioned in "baggage" that House was so eager to get back the book written by Cuddy's grandfather because he loved her so much and that House identified himself with the patient's husband, because he was going to lose someone he loved, too. THAT ALL was so in our heads... =='
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but you're living in a Huddy universe where people have blinders on when it comes to ratings. The average viewer is turning the show off...why? What has changed over the last two seasons? HUDDY. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. I don't care if you're a Huddy, Hameron or O/C, the reality is that if the writers don't get back to the medicine, there will be no Season 8 and that would be a shame. I love House, but I love the cerebral House with a great wit. Not drivel House who spends more time playing pranks and trailing after Cuddy than he does solving a medical problem.
ReplyDeleteThank you. She blamed the ratings dip on Huddy, using it as a lever for flogging her own anti-Huddy take on the current season with nothing to back it up. Instead she contradicts herself by saying the show should focus more on House/Wilson. I'm not sure where she was last season, when the House/Wilson relationship was all over the place, Cuddy was in a relationship with Lucas and being a complete bitch to House and you know, the ratings actually started to drop significantly.
ReplyDeleteI actually do agree with her that the new, "reformed" House, might not exactly be entertaining or as entertaining to viewers as it once was, however, even she was one to admit that character development is necessary.
Her bias, on the other hand was borderline disgusting. As a journalist myself, I was baffled to see the entirely biased, partial, unprofessional way she presented her article. Journalism 101: you should always present counterpoints. You are not supposed to inject your views into your readers minds. They are supposed to create their own based on two opposing arguments. She only chose her own - all of which were negative.
Ken Tucker managed to write an entire negative review without resorting to this kind of immature fan girling.
I have to agree with both Bibel and Taub. With Taub in the fact that House/Cuddy is doomed, and with Bibel in that the producers must give this relationship its logical dimension and screen time --and not more.
ReplyDeleteThey went down the last 4 eps of season six right after David Shore announced Huddy would happen and Sam enterered. To much relationship stuff is whats dropping the ratings. I agree with the original blogger that House and Cuddy are about sex not love. I personally have never seen anything more than sexual tension with them. A one night stand would have worked better. As for the pilot, if you ask me, it was more slashy with House and Wilson and House and Cuddy acted like employee employer-saw nothing between them at all. Matter of fact I just watched the pilot last night so my memory is pretty fresh on it. I actually loved ep 2 of s7 so I'm not 100% against Huddy but I do believe it needs to be toned down and that Huddy and relationships in general and it's major focus on them is what is killing the show. Just my opinion!
ReplyDeleteLOL. Jesus.
ReplyDeleteHouse is ruined by the huddy. You are a Huddy, so you can't see the true ;_______; Please, producers, save our beloved show!!!
ReplyDeleteTry relaxing a little, it's been two episodes. Just like the first few eps of season 6 were all about House's visit to the asylum. It will calm down and become less of a focus once the necessary issues are addressed. If, per chance, you are trying to claim season 6 was all about House and Cuddy, that's simply not true, and is in your head. If you go back and look at the subjects that each episode dealt with and the time devoted to them. Most episodes had no more than a quick passing mention of House/Cuddy. She wasn't even in every episode. There was more House/Wilson stuff. Plus, many episodes that had a strong House/Cuddy focus, like "Help Me," had other big stuff going on.
ReplyDeleteI wholeheartedly agree. I only just got into House at the start of this year and watched all the episodes within in a month and I feel when you watch them like that you do see the development of Huddy and the chemistry between them that has always been there. My wee brother wanted to start watching it and I told him to go back and watch the previous episodes before Season 7, not because he wouldn't understand who they all were but because he wouldn't get how Huddy has come about, and how it's developed over the previous 6 Seasons.
ReplyDeleteAlso, while I miss seeing House pop Vicodin every 30 seconds as a show it did need to develop and show what can happen after abusing the drug for years. Given what we know House must've been on Vicodin for, by my calculation 10 or 11(?) years given Season 1 and more so 3 we know he is an addict. They needed to develop that more and "Broken" is a very poignant episode, it may have changed House as a show but he still berates and belittles his employees, friends, patients and strangers and still gets away with it. He may be happier now but House himself says "People don't change" and if you have been watching closely you can easily see he hasn't really.
Jennifer Morrison leaving does bother me, I didn't like the way she was written out of the show and still cannot make head nor tail of why she was written out. I know 13 has a lot of critics but I do like her character, maybe not when all the focus is on her and if I'm honest I felt the "Foreteen" story arc was out of character for Foreman. I still enjoy her character and am genuinely disappointed she won't be seen much this Season.
AGREE! this relationship has been built on 7 years and i think it was the time to bought of them trying to be happy! nice article and also the WHOLE raitnig is here http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/28/monday-finals-castle-adjusted-down-chuck-rules-hawaii-five-0-90210-adjusted-up/65667 so please SARA (asshole) dont play with the numbers!
ReplyDeleteu are a bitter fangirl ! BB is a Huddy fangirl and writes reviews that read like fanfic. Newsflash, not everyone ships people on shows ,some don't care about that, we're not teenagers with raging hormones and no sex life,get over it.
ReplyDeleteWhy does everyone who isn't a Huddy automatically fall in the bitter fangirl category? Come on,man up,take the criticism and learn from it
But hey,you go on and watch House and admire Cuddy, the writers are insulting women and motherhood and relationships so you learn from that and apply it in day to day life and see how that works out for you
Exactly Ashly, many of us wish the focus did not all seem to be on Huddy and feel that a-lot of the issues that many have with the show is not that Huddy is happening but that all the focus is on just Huddy and everything else seems to be an after-thought that is written poorly. It's not that we mind change, we just want it done well.
ReplyDeleteAgree, relationships is what is killing this show. I fell in love with a House that would do ANYTHING to solve a puzzle. Now the puzzles seem irrelevant. As far as the ratings go, I wrote something above about that because I follow ratings very closely :)
ReplyDeleteWholly agree! To dislike House for reasons of personal taste is fine. However, when people try to make specific criticisms they can be and, in this case, are wrong. You'd have to be damaged in some way to watch House embarassing/fighting with Cuddy and brutally yelling at the parents to shorten their son's life in order to save their daughter in "Selfish," and come away from that episode thinking how nice House is now. As for his suffering, did everyone else miss that he's still limping and cringing in pain, their difficulty finding a way to work together, his serious doubt that she'll be able to put up with him, and the scared looks on House and Cuddy's faces at the end of "Now What." This is far from them skipping together down lover's lane. It's more like tripping down a gravel road covered in holes and barbed wire.
ReplyDeleteAstounding. You completely ignore the issue raised on the first paragraph of the fancast article. the ratings have dropped, viewers are tuning out & House is coming in third in its time slot behind both DWTS & HIMYM. Yes, I get that you like Huddy & will do everything you can to justify the story line. That doesn't address the issue of why other viewers (in particular the male 18-34 demo) is tuning out (to repeat, the male 18-34 demo dropped and was beaten by DWTS AND HIMYM). And if men don't watch, advertisers don't pay and House gets cancelled, just like 24 did.
ReplyDeleteyou don't read much, do you?
ReplyDeleteOK apparently you're not following what I'm saying at all. Have you noticed that you're not even really disagreeing with me? My original response was to someone saying they would be happier if House/Cuddy was not the only focus of the show. So, I pointed out that House/Cuddy was not anywhere near the only focus of season 6. Season 6 did deal with House/Cuddy, but the whole season was not about House/Cuddy, in the same way season 1 was not all about House/Cameron. The key words here are "only," "whole," and "all." Got it? You're actually arguing more with the original point made by Christina, not me.
ReplyDeleteI did, in fact, enjoy the House/Cuddy mentions (you called them innuendos, but that's not really what most of them were) and, in fact, counted them in my list above. There were also seven eps that I listed as having a Cuddy plot line, none of which they were naked in.
Yes, I agree with you totally. She might not be watching the show the same way that we do. What she's doing is just making the show more popular instead of ruining it. Her ultimate motive will never succeed! Ha ha ha. The true "House" fans know what's genuine and what's not. Your analysis is more reliable! More power to you and to Spoiler TV!
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell are you talking about? First of all, I'm a guy. I could care less about relationships on the show. I watch it for Hugh Laurie and if the reviewer wasn't so damn biased and unprofessional, I'd agree with her. Second of all, what/who is BB? Don't presume that because I post here, I'm part of your online circles and know who X or Y are.
ReplyDeleteUm, wrong. Most reviews have actually been positive and from actual news/media sources (NY Times/LA Times/EW/People/TV Guide/USA Today), not blogs titled "Fancast".
ReplyDeleteNewsflash for you, honey: it's television. It's fiction. You're not supposed to apply it to your everyday life.
ReplyDeletemost reviews have been negative apart from fellow fangirl BB . Why can't you just accept that some don't like it? Just cause a few thousand rabid fangirls are trolling sites and bullying everyone doesn't mean you rule the universe.
ReplyDeleteok you people can't take any sort of criticism. Just cause she doesn't like it it doesn't mean she's bitter or stupid or watches another show. Most people who don't bother with this crazy fangirl-ism don't care about the show anymore. Face it, it's all Huddy and if you didn't support the ship you wouldn't care either. Come on, you all bash everyone and everything and that's called being entitled to an opinion but if someone doesn't agree with you it's doomsday . You are just insecure,get a life! God,this fandom makes me feel ashamed I ever watched this show.
ReplyDeleteOh and btw,the ratings fell because of the fact that House turned into Grey's and it would have happened regardless of the ship,it just happened to be Huddy. House wasn't about romance and now it is,people didn't watch for romance so they don't watch this anymore, it's all good, go on and have your fun
Thankyou so much, I totally agree with everything ! . and @ Greg House. If you don't like it get the hell out of here!
ReplyDeleteI wonder the same thing. A couple months back, there was this commenter that got a little pissy with me over something I said.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, blame it on huddy for the low ratings is superficial, House cant be the same person on drugs forever he would be dead by now, I like this last episode and I think that it will be better later on. I'll keep on watching this series until the end as long as House, Willson and Cuddy are there.
ReplyDeleteAnd I watch the old episodes everyday and I think thah Huddy was the obvious evolution or a least a possible ending for the series, so Im here and not going anywhere.
You clearly missed the point, didn't you? Did you even bothered to read Lisa's response? It is not a matter of difference of opinion here. We're talking about someone we assume is a professional writing a review like a bitter fan girl without even bothering to check a ratings chart to get her facts straight.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU.
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing this. Pretty much covered everything I thought. *thumbs up*
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with Sara Bibel's article.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that Huddy fangirlies can't take critism and just accept different opinions?
Grow up!
I say the same, yes I'm a Huddy, and it is true has, in recent years, what changed in House! And the first 2 episodes were completely different than before except for the team talks, the Wilson scenes and the dispute between House and Cuddy in "Selfish" was, as always, but the rest do not. The rest was different but different is not always bad. You have the first of others a chance. Although I'm Huddy but I do not want the relationship to be placed in the foreground. Yes to the first two or three episodes have been received on the relationship, it will indeed be a complete change but as I said, the producers wierder back to a normal house. The relationship should not be missing it finally plays a role, the two must work together so despite the relationship but not as A topic but C or D (Wilson is not missing). A is the patient that is the case. B is the team so the team work. And the rest then Wilson and Cuddy and such. (Just an example with A, B, C. .....) I would once again like to see something like episode "Last Resort" is. But I do like Sara Bible articles on Absolutely not! The producers know what they do and how they are and if it is not so good they will change it! I like the article here ! Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI agree!
ReplyDeletePeople are entitled to their opinions, and all we can do is agree to disagree, but I get really sick of people complaining!
Totally agree with you ... @TVTherapy!!
ReplyDeleteSTFU, you're a fan girl yourself, and even more biased. Huddy fan girls are annoying everywhere, ugh.
ReplyDeleteSo why are you trolling this site? Go on with your bad little self and switch to chuck or DWTS or whatever. Buh bye.
ReplyDeleteVery good commentary although you went lightly over that Bible or is it Babble chick? Sara Babble, right? Anyway, the show is the bomb, sharks be damned. Loving it. Hope DWTS welcomes these naysaying viewers. i know I won't miss'em!
ReplyDeleteThis is way more about fan girls butt hurt because people don't like their couple than actually caring about the show. SMH.
ReplyDeletePeople were complaining that House was stagnating in season six, so when the writers decided to change things up a bit with the House/Cuddy relationship, people complain that it's too much of a change. You can never please everyone! I'd rather they try to experiment a bit with a romantic relationship while keeping House in character instead of continuing along the same route and getting boring.
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree with you, seasons 4 and 5 were probably two of the strongest seasons, with great medical mysteries and sub plots not necessarily centered on the characters.... I was just watching 5x09, Last Resort... That was a great episode, probably one of the best, and it was in S5. And of course eventually they had to turn into the characters, they make up the show! I don't need a crazy medical mystery if I don't get a dose of House as a character......
ReplyDeleteGood reply. I really agree, I love the medical mysteries and they are a key part to why I like this show. #house
ReplyDeleteOk... House is still a good show, but i love the 3 first seasons... Because now the medical misteries become irrelevant... Take for example this 2 first episodes... In 7x01 there was no case... And in 7x02 it was lame... Where are episodes like "All In" in wich house has to solve the case based on a 12 yers old case ?
ReplyDeleteNow the characters are the 70% of the show... And i dont like that to much... For me "The Perfect House MD Show" died when season 3 ended... From season 4 to 7 are all about characters...
WELL SAID!!! I think there are no better words to put this matter into an end. House has developed to what he is today and we have been sticking around 7 seasons knowing him.... The show would indeed be boring if it stayed the same way, I'm glad that it has grown to being one of the strongest TV shows (and characters) out there. Just look at the ratings! Although slightly lower, still very strong.
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing this....
I agree with Sara, 100%, and it's lame that you try to get all the haters to her articles. Way to go. This fandom is so stupid and pathetic, ugh.
ReplyDeleteWell said. That article by SB is one of the most pathetic rants ever.
ReplyDeleteif the ratings had gone down drastically from last season, i'd agree with you, but they were lower at the tail end of last season than they are now. and at that time, it was house/wilson overload with almost no cuddy at all. so the idea that "people don't like their couple" causing a so-called 'sudden' dip in the ratings is ludicrous.
ReplyDeletesadly, the ratings fall was a product of sub-par storytelling over the course of season six, which caused a lot of people to give up on the series. i honestly don't think the 'general viewer' watches for any particular ship. they just want to be entertained - and last season was far from entertaining..
Thank you! God, sometimes I wonder how is it possible that so many people aren't able to understand what this show's about. A tip: read the title. This is about a character, called Gregory House, and his interactions with the world around him: his traumas, his profession, his mannerisms, his expertise, his opinions and, among other things, his relationships with the people around him! What's so difficult understand?
ReplyDeleteGenerally males don't like relationship stories. That doesn't mean the story is bad.
ReplyDeleteI read the article - and the fact that you call someone who isn't all Huddy a bitter fangirl - exactly proves MY point.
ReplyDeleteAmazing response, I totally agree with you. I've read the original and I couldn't understand why she was saying all of those things when I believe that House is still one of the best shows on TV even after seven seasons. The show matured a lot in the last years, and it was as fun as ever, I really don't want to go back to season 1, I'm loving Huddy and I want it to stay this way. A lot comes from those two characters, and even more if we count Wilson meddling, Taub criticizing, Foreman agreeing and Chase ignoring them.
ReplyDeleteYes, I miss Cameron (I honestly don't know why they wrote her out, it dazzles me), I will surely miss Thirteen and I think that Kutner and even Amber would be great to watch every week. But excluding Cameron I don't think any of that is the writers or producers fault. Kutner and Thirteen left because the actors chose to do so to work on their careers (political or actoral) and the demise of Amber was one of the best moments on the series, ever.
I have a lot of faith in the show and I'm really loving this season (although I didn't link the deus ex machine at the ending of the last one). The next episode looks amazing also, and soon Amber Tamblyn will join, the future looks bright. And even without that, as long as Hugh Laurie is still rocking it week after week, I'll be watching.
If you read my post, you'd notice I was addressing Christina's comment that the focus ALL seemed to be on House/Cuddy (still not sure if she meant to include S6). There were definitely some episodes that strongly dealt with the subject, but even then it wasn't the only focus. There were also several other episodes where the House/Cuddy stuff was mentioned, but it was left as a mere mention, not anywhere near the entire focus.
ReplyDeleteLet's look at the numbers, just for Ghits and Siggles. I'm focusing on the doctor's personal stories, so a patient story won't keep the episode out of the "Only House/Cuddy" category.
Only House/Cuddy: 0
House/Cuddy plot along with others: 7 - Known Unknowns, Teamwork, Ignorance is Bliss, Wilson (minor), Remorse, Baggage, Help Me
House/Cuddy mention: 7 - Epic Fail, Brave Heart, Lockdown (indirect), Moving the Chains, Knight Fall, Open and Shut, The Choice
No House/Cuddy: 8 - Broken (x2), The Tyrant, Instant Karma, The Down Low, 9 to 5 (no talk of their relationship), Private Lives, Black Hole
It's weird how the numbers worked out so evenly. At best, and I'm being very generous, you could claim maybe 8 eps worth of House/Cuddy material if you put all of the mentions together and ignored the other plots of those episodes. Even with such significant exaggeration, that still leaves 14 eps of non-House/Cuddy. You could try to be ridiculous about what counts as a mention and still be no where near even half of the episodes. So, no, the whole season was not about House and Cuddy, nowhere near. The idea that some would be complaining about the amount of time focused on House and Cuddy's relationship is pretty absurd to me considering I don't have much interest in the medical mysteries and this is still my favourite show.