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STV Podcast 88 - Is streaming TV the answer to international viewing?

22 Feb 2015

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The ODI, CJ and Bradley discuss the way forward for TV episodes and is streaming the day after for international audiences the way forward to prevent piracy? They also discuss the weeks TV and movie news. Let us know what you think in the comments below.

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This podcast was recorded on 21st February 2015

0.00 - Introduction, news/cancellations/renewals
0.13 - The Walking Dead
0.29 - Person of Interest, Flash and more
0.49 - Movie News
0.54 - TV Streaming Discussion
1.12 - End




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10 comments:

  1. It's not so much that people want to "pirate", it's that they want to watch shows when they want to watch them. No one wants to conform to network times and dates anymore. If the show is available, we want it NOW, not in two weeks from now at an inconvenient time. And if a show is from another country, we also want to see it and regional blocks should never have been invented or implemented. Networks need to conform to today's modern viewers and not to old, outdated network standards. They should stream everything and use the streaming hits as ratings and do away with regional blocking. Not only would they get a more accurate rating, but real fans from all over the world can and do buy show products. The networks would make more money this way than they do with the old outdated standards.

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  2. I can't agree more .

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  3. Exactly! Watching a tv show isn't just about the show anymore - it is almost an interactive experience now with Twitter and social media. It is possible to dodge spoilers for a day or 2, but if your country is airing episodes weeks or even months after they originally aired in the U.S then it is impossible.
    With a show immediately available to people worldwide, no geographic restrictions, the Networks would, as you said, get a much more accurate picture of viewership. My favourite show has not even begun it's new season in my country, yet its latest season began in Autumn 2014 in America... Needless to say, I find alternative methods to watch it (I do still buy the dvd's like a good girl though).

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  4. The only problem with the idea of picking and choosing tv shows is that it would cause there to be fewer new shows because people aren't likely to pay for something that they don't know anything about. How many shows do you watch now or have watched before because they had an actor/actress you liked, it had creators/Executive producers who had done shows you enjoyed before, or just accidently left the tv on after a show ended and found a new tv show that you liked? Unless the networks were to make the pilot and an episode or 2 after the pilot completely free, I can't see that working well for new shows.

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  5. Streaming is a great option, but ISP throttling may seriously cut into it.

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  6. I have not heard the podcast yet but my first thought YES YES YES just thinking about the mess our local networks are having atm: this Tuesday we have 1x04 of The Flash with Felicity and Arrow S3 has not aired on free tv!?!?! WTF. Of course our broadcasts have their strengths in other programming. But serialized tv shows hardly work on German TV (Arrow beeing an exception, for now)

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  7. Is streaming TV the answer to international viewing?


    In a word: Yes.

    But the reason it won't work is the same reason I can't just subscribe directly to stations I want to watch. I'm paying the cable company a crap-ton of money either way. The pragmatic thing is to charge one fee for data access and then everything else is an app that parses the type of data, whether it's video, web pages, or telephone. But no one would agree to 140/month for that, which is about what people pay for the non-promotional rate for TV/Internet/Phone and one or two "premium" channels. That structure is the problem, and that structure is why a direct stream won't work.

    The online pirate's strongest case is the money they're already paying for their internet connection. That falls apart when you understand the legality behind licensing (read - BS) and how the distributors didn't agree to such terms.

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  8. TV is bound to change and I agree with your assessment guys, that the networks should get right on that instead of digging their heals and not being flexible.


    What I think would be interesting would be to have a YouTube type international viewing/streaming option, which could follow the way TV advertising and funding works.
    (And networks and channels from all over the world could have the option to have their material available there.)
    Things would be available to you for free whenever you want for an X period of time (preferably a year or until the DVDs would be available or until the show ends up on Netflix), with adds for the "network" stuff (and those adds could be customised per region & country as YouTube and lots of free sites are), and if you wanted the premium & cable stuff you'd have to pay. Maybe even pay per show... instead of paying per cable channel...

    Granted then things like bandwidth and going over your cap would come into play, but that might also make help the internet providers try to be more competitive... (and because really not all countried work with caps anymore...)

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  9. No. I want to watch television on my television. I only watch Once Upon A Time on 7's website, for example, because (since the switch to digital) the signal is poor to non-existent, and even when I did catch Once live it was four episodes bundled together on a Sunday afternoon. A lot of shows simply don't make it down here, or if they do get stuck with bad timeslots. Haven may have aired on one of our national broadcaster's commercial-free channels, but it was at 11pm or later, and the four seasons of it I own on DVD are more than has aired. SBS putting Orphan Black on its website immediately after the US airing, and 2-3 days before they have scheduled it to air here, is the exception, not the rule; and (again, television reception permitting), I will usually watch it live again anyway. Then buy the DVD set, soon as it is available. In the long run, waiting for the DVDs is a better option, and in some cases the only way to get to see some shows (e.g. Falling Skies, The 100). As much as I like Scorpion and Sleepy Hollow, I am not putting up with 10's far-too-frequent ad breaks. From previous experience with Foxtel, I am not going to pay for all those satellite channels of sport I am never going to watch in order to get a few shows I am interested in. Buying DVDs is cheaper, easier, and ultimately a more accessible way of watching a show, whenever and as many times as desired. Perhaps ask instead: are commercial television networks outdated, and do we even need them any more?

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