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Ratings News - 26th February 2015

26 Feb 2015

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

Tables being updated live. Please refresh for updates.


Last Week Ratings

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Wednesday Ratings
Mixed Results for CBS Reality/Competition Season-Openers

Wednesday 2/25/15
Note: The Raleigh-Durham market is not included in the following averages.

Household
Fox 8.1/13
NBC 5.2/ 8
CBS 4.7/ 8
ABC 4.6/ 7
CW 1.5/ 2

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Wednesday 2/26/14:
NBC: +16, Fox: +12, ABC: + 7, CW: – 6, CBS: -22

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“American Idol” (Fox), “Empire” (Fox), “Modern Family” (ABC)

-Honorable Mention:
“Survivor: World’s Apart” (CBS), “The Middle” (ABC), “The Goldbergs” (ABC), “Arrow” (CW)

-Disappointing:
“The Amazing Race” (CBS)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“The 100” (CW)

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Ratings Breakdown:
The juggernaut on Fox called “Empire” scored its seventh consecutive week of overnight household growth, topping the night at a 9.2 rating/14 share from 9-10 p.m. Comparably, this was 28 percent above the second half of “American Idol” on the year-ago evening (7.2/11 on 2/26/14), and it built from the 8:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Idol” (7.4/11) by 24 percent. Had Fox had a crystal ball, it would have ordered more than 12 episodes of “Empire” initially. Eight-week overnight track for “Empire”: 6.8/10 – 7.3/11 – 7.6/12 – 7.9/12 – 8.0/12 – 8.2/13 – 8.8/13 – 9.2/14. Worth repeating: unprecedented!

Aforementioned lead-in “American Idol,” meanwhile, scored a dominant 7.1/11 in the overnights from 8-9 p.m., which was on par from one year earlier.

In season-premiere news was the 90-minute “Survivor” and “The Amazing Race” openers on CBS. “Survivor,” themed “World’s Apart,” scored a second-place 5.6/ 9 from 8-9:30 p.m., which fluctuated by only one-tenth of a rating point in the three half hours and was consistent from the two-hour (two episodes) season opener on the year-ago evening (5.7/ 9 on 2/26/14, themed “Brawn vs. Brains”). Expect a performance for the this welcome return of “Survivor” at an estimated 9.5 million viewers and a low-2 rating in adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data.

“The Amazing Race,” however, lost considerable steam with a 3.8/ 6 in the overnights from 9:30-11 p.m. (which only fluctuated by two-tenths of a rating point in the three half-hours). Comparably, this was down by 28 percent from the year-ago season-premiere (5.3/ 8 on Sunday 2/23/14). Retention out of “Survivor” was 68 percent (or, in other words, down by 32 percent). And the 10-11 p.m. portion of “The Amazing Race” trailed competing “Chicago PD” on NBC (4.8/ 8) by 23 percent. In other words, consider this very disappointing.

“The Amazing Race” returns to its regularly scheduled Friday 8 p.m. hour tomorrow (into “Hawaii Five-O” and “Blue Bloods” from 9-11 p.m.).

On NBC, freshman “The Mysteries of Laura,” featuring a guest appearance by Debra Messing’s former “Will & Grace” co-star Eric McCormack, rose to its best household overnights (#3: 5.2/ 8 from 8-9 p.m.) since Dec. 10, 2014. Keep in mind that similar appeal “The Mentalist” on CBS concluded its series-run last week. And it led into the top-rated “Law & Order: SVU” (#4: 5.4/ 8 at 9 p.m.) since the Nov. 12, 2014 triple crossover (6.7/10) with “Chicago Fire” and “Chicago PD.”

Elsewhere, ABC had nothing unusual to report with its line-up of “The Middle” (#3t, 5.2/ 8), “The Goldbergs” (#4: 4.8/ 7), “Modern Family” (#2: 6.1/ 9), “black-ish” (#3: 4.5/ 7) and aforementioned “Nashville” (#3: 3.6/ 6). And sophomore “The 100” on The CW (#5: 1.1/ 2 at 9 p.m.) dipped by a typical 45 percent out of “Arrow” (#5: 2.0/ 3 at 8 p.m.). Needless to say, the network could do better in the Wednesday 9 p.m. hour.

While nothing has been announced for next season yet, ABC pairing ‘black-ish” with “Fresh off the Boat” on Tuesday and freeing up the Wednesday 9:30 p.m. half-hour (out of “Modern Family”) for a new sitcom could be a possibility. Stay tuned.

Source: Nielsen Media Research


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164 comments:

  1. Is Empire so good?

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  2. MF, Arrow and The100 are doing steady! Glad to see that!
    Will be interesting to see The100 next week without Arrow. Hoping it won't change much.
    Empire is doing devils work here! LMFAO!

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  3. So around 5.4 for Empire?
    I really hope CBS doesn't cancel TAR. Another cycle is guaranteed since they already did the casting for it, but I am worried about its future after that. It is the only reality show I watch.

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  4. I saw the pilot and tbh, I didn't enjoy it at all.

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  5. I keep asking myself that very same question every week. I can't understand its growth.

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  6. At this point I have to come up with someone else to say but Wow, Empire. It gets boring repeating the same thing weekly.

    The Mysteries Of Laura did really well. Nice rebound for the reunion. SVU and Chicago PD also benefited. After scripted disappointments on Monday and Tuesday this week, finally NBC got something going on Wednesday.

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  7. No, Empire is not So good.... It's VERY GOOD!!! Last Nights Episode was on another Level. Simply AMAZING!

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  8. did I read right about The 100?

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  9. Another Wednesday, another day of undeservedly low The 100 ratings.

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  10. I love this show a lot!!!!

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  11. What do you mean?

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  12. Soooo! Sad about it! The show killed it last night!

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  13. I agree!! This is my appointment television on Wednesday nights!!!

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  14. And sophomore “The 100” on The CW (#5: 1.1/ 2 at 9 p.m.)

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  15. It's not my kind of show personally but it's obviously resonating with a lot of people and word of mouth must be good as it keeps on growing.

    It really is a very unique show in that respect.

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  16. It is entertaining.

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  17. I really can't figure out why The Amazing Race is losing ground quickly. It was a solid show in the ratings.


    I also am not confident in CSI: Cyber in this timeslot. CBS needed to counter program what the other two networks were offering, and they did the exact opposite.

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  18. Yes, there is nothing atypical about that.

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  19. I believe if TAR returned to Sunday, it would do fine. Now, with The Mentalist (and possibly CSI) gone they could do a

    7:00 - 60 Minutes
    8:00 - TAR
    9:00 - Madam Secretary
    10:00 - The Good Wife

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  20. It was a little down on Sundays last year, but still doing respectably. I think it's the kind of show people watch as a family on Sunday, as opposed to weekdays.

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  21. Woah, Empire doesn't stop! This thing is going to hit 6s.


    I hope this is the day The 100 scores a 0.6 and keeps it, it hasn't in a long while

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  22. The Rise of the Cookie Empire.

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  23. I hope The 100 doesn't hit 0.4 in the next 2 weeks without Arrow. I don't expect it too but I'm preparing for the worst :P

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  24. Every week I fee that it's already incredible what Empire is doing and that it has to stop. Yet, every week I am proven wrong when yet another frontier is broken in crazy fashion. I don't even know what to say about the show anymore!

    Elsewhere, I was expecting ABC to spike due to the "eventful" episodes of The Goldbergs and Modern Family but the overnights suggest it was NBC that surprisingly spiked instead. We shall see what the demo says. Also, CBS really should have kicked TAR to the summers already, it is the worst performer on their entire schedule.

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  25. They need to place Elementary on Sundays since it is too toxic to remain on a weekday and it would derail Blue Bloods on Fridays if placed there. Also, it makes more sense to give the good Sundays 8pm slot to Madam Secretary, a freshman show they want to nurture than to a 25 season reality show in its last legs.

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  26. I would call the NBC spike that that surprising. Nothing scripted was on CBS.

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  27. Have to agree, I didn't enjoy it either & quit after the 2nd ep (I know I should give it 4 but I just don't have the time). But it certainly looks as other enjoy it so great for Empire & its fans!

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  28. Preditions for Empire and ABC comedies?

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  29. I don't understand the Empire ratings.

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  30. Yeah you are right. They always tend to spike on Wednesday when CBS is on repeats and such. Good point

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  31. It's not my typical style of show but I've been slowly pulled in and now I'm totally hooked. The cast is great, the stories are fun, there's tons of twists.. it's pure entertainment at it's absolute best. Certainly it's no "Mad Men" or "Breaking Bad", but it doesn't try to be and it embraces it's over-the-top fun side and blends that well with genuine character moments. It's easy to see why it's becoming a culture phenomenon. I was laughing my ass off during the show last night.

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  32. NBC promoted the Will and Grace reunion for weeks. I had a feeling if people saw it, there would be a spike. It also leads into what I've written previously that NBC needs to get their 8 PM lead ins figured out. A lot of their 9 PM shows are being hampered by bad lead ins, funneling into 10 PM.

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  33. Empire could do a 5.4 which is crazy :)

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  34. Is Marcia Cross responsable of SVU rise ?

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  35. So how much money did Apple pay Modern Family for that episode?

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  36. My guess for Empire is 5.3 or 5.4.

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  37. I saw the first 2 episodes last week (it premiered in my country) and tbh didn´t like it that much, maybe because I was never a fan of the musical genre...however I think it has the potential to be addictive:)

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  38. Well the Voice airs twice a day at 8pm and those days still manage to be problematic so I wouldn't focus entirely on that. But I agree that they've done some pretty stupid things with the late portion of the week. Removing Dateline from the lead-off role at 8pm when it was doing solid business there to place the struggling Constantine in there was a horrible idea. And obviously thinking that the slap had any chance to produce good numbers in that Thursday slot was also ridiculous. Grimm and The Blacklist would likely be doing better if their lead-ins were better, so you have a point in there.

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  39. I'm not watching the show for the music, but some of the songs are quite good which is an added bonus.

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  40. I think we have to see if the rise holds in the demo as it could just be the older viewers from CBS tuning in due to the absence of the CBS procedurals which weren't on even in repeats.

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  41. I think The 100 will keep getting 0.5s and maybe the show will rise for the season finale. This season has been amazing.

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  42. So how did Chicago pd do?

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  43. To be fair, everything this show has done has been crazy :P I don't even know how to talk about it anymore, it is on a different realm!

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  44. I agree with this comment.

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  45. It's the power of Cookie. But I agree that it is insane.

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  46. Yup, it's that good, though I gotta add a disclaimer that I also love the music.
    It's my new guilty pleasure.

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  47. Empire is breaking broadcast network and rating gravity all the same

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  48. It's not a show I would normally watch, as I dislike shows that have a music element to them, but I've found Empire to be very entertaining. Taraji P.Henson is one of the main reasons I enjoy it so much, she's phenomenal.

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  49. Empire is getting great ratings. However, Fox has a problem because the viewership is almost 80% African American. That is not a demographic that sells well with advertisers. They would prefer to have a more balanced distribution of viewers.
    The show is entertaining in a VH1/BET way but it is not really good and will be difficult to sustain long term.

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  50. “Chicago PD” on NBC (4.8/ 8)

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  51. I've never seen this kind of growth since The Walking Dead... if it were to follow its lead it would grow until... jesus christ! It would hit 10s! :O

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  52. And since Chicago PD pulled a 1.7 with a HH of 4.6/8, it's probably sitting at a 1.8 or 1.9. Depending on how young SVU skewed this episode.

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  53. The Walking Dead never grew like this.

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  54. At least it's the most consistent show on the network.

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  55. Started out with a 2.8 and now its high is 8.9. I think it is the closest comparison

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  56. Cookie is definitely one of the best characters on TV right now imo..

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  57. That isn't a particularly good attribute considering what the most consistent shows on the network last year were.

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  58. Empire, Network TV's answer to The Walking Dead ratings wise! The 100 will be fine next two weeks as it has aired without Arrow before and held its own. At least Marc didin't pull his usually 'not worthy of a third season' BS this week.

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  59. The next one looks even better. Boo Boo Kitty is in big trouble.

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  60. I am trying to find a positive side to this, lol\

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  61. Yep

    http://i.imgur.com/YZSwVwh.png

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  62. True, but at least we know what we're going to get, I mean we could have Reign's kind of ratings here

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  63. My opinion: Is just a median show, the acting sometimes is so bad. I only saw the first episode, and then, I abandoned.

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  64. Yeah I realized, I was just saying. I've sort of given up on the 100 ratings wise. It is sad but people refuse to acknowledge how amazing this show is and if it hasn't happened this year, I don't think it's ever going to happen. Which is very very sad.

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  65. I wouldn't throw the towel just yet. In a way, the show is still essentially a freshman. If by next season an audience doesn't come, then I'm ready to say the show won't see a surge, but I'm not quite ready to give up just yet

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  66. As Jaha would say: "These ratings are just another test of our faith."

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  67. Its so soapy and campy something seriously lacking on network TV now which is dominated by procedurals

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  68. You're more optimistic than I am then ;) I really don't think it will happen because it missed its chance this year. Next year, I expect the CW (and rightfully so, I am afraid) to deprioritize the show and send it to a lower viewed portion of the calendar or of the week with no lead-in and less promotion. So I think it missed the boat already. But I would love to be wrong, I just don't think it will happen. I focus on Arrow's ratings now on Thursday, at least I get joy from there!

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  69. Well, last year Beauty and the Beast was the most consistent show and that has been renewed for a fourth season so I guess that's positive.

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  70. I think there is a chance The 100 moves to Thursdays after TVD; the show constantly battles against Empire and Modern Family, so I think confronting Scandal and The Blacklist would be no problem for it. And the show has been able to muster 0.5s on its own, without Arrow airing. So the move may be able to fix to an extent their Thursdays lineup while freeing Arrow to launch something else, and moving Reign to Fridays or summer.


    I think it is the logical move, with the other being throwing SPN there after TVD.

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  71. A 1.2 or 1.3 for Arrow maybe? Pretty Please! :P

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  72. 2.4 for The Goldbergs.Steadiness for the other 3 shows.

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  73. Yeah Empire! Love Me Some Cookie! Two questions for FOX - why is it only 59 minutes instead of full hour or 1:01? Why is FOX airing a double episode instead of airing the final episode on March 25?

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  74. "Entertaining in a VH1/BET way"... really? Because the cast is black? The acting and writing is a lot better than most dramas on network TV right now. It's fun and flashy, yea, but the cast is phenomenal and the writers and director's are fantastic. It was stated from the get-go that Daniels wanted to make a Black version of "Dynasty" and that's what he did. It's gotten better each week and I think it's unfair to associate it with those networks just because the color of the actors. Danny Strong and Lee Daniels are some of the best minds in entertainment now and it shows on Empire.

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  75. I think 2 hours of Empire can help FOX's seasonal average as that night will probably average over a 6.0

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  76. Top 25 Market Numbers are being entered now

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  77. Was Sean Hayes part of that? Bc that could be your answer haha

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  78. Empire hit a 6.0 on top 25... wow... just wow.


    I won't take The 100's top 25 for granted yet, I've seen a 0.4 become a 0.5, but it is a bit worriesome. I hope it did a 0.6. And if it did a a 0.5, then it can't adjust down... it just can't

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  79. T25 for ABC? I cant see it on phone

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  80. The Middle: 2.2
    Goldbergs: 2.7
    Modern Family: 4.0
    Black.ish: 2.6

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  81. So is Nashville, but I its ratings are far from great.

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  82. Eric McCormack. And it's a good thing too because Sean's involvement could have taken ratings in the opposite direction. LOL!

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  83. I am almost certain the CW will keep Mondays and Thursdays as the female skewing nights and Tuesdays and Wednesdays as the male skewing nights. Arrow, The Flash and The 100 are huge male skewing shows (even if the DC shows are even more than the 100) while TVD, TO, Reign and Virgin are big female skewing shows. The CW knows this and has been playing with it for a while ever since Arrow launched (they started only with male Wednesdays and gradually expanded it to Tuesday as well). Pedowtiz is on the record as saying they want to keep diversity so I expect these balance of two nights not to change. The only wildcard is Supernatural since it is essentially a 50-50 show which means it can go literally anywhere. Because of this, I highly The 100 goes to Thursdays to pair with TVD. I think the CW is easy to figure out in theoretical terms:
    - Male skewing nights (in some combination): The Flash, Arrow, Supernatural, one newbie and I fully expect the configuration to be The Flash | Newbie and Arrow | Supernatural
    - Female skewing nights (in some combination): The Vampire Diaries, The Originals, Jane the Virgin, one newbie. I am less sure about the configuration here but right now my guess would be Newbie | Virgin on Mondays and The Vampire Diaries | The Originas on Thursdays.

    If the 100 is kept on a weekday like you were proposing they can only launch one new drama on the fall, which I highly doubt they do.

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  84. Empire is just amazing

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  85. Empire, ABC comedies, Idol, SVU and Arrow did great! Survivor and TAR premiered bad. Anybody have predictions what the ratings will look like?

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  86. When was the last time a show with WHITE PEOPLE got a 6.0 in the Top 25? Name me a white show that goes up every work? So don't tell me that African American shows don't sell well. There are shows with a mainly white cast that gets lower ratings than empire.

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  87. 6.0 for Empire is insane! Modern Family and Goldbergs had amazing episodes yesterday so I'm not surprised they did good and I hope they can keep up these numbers even after DST. I didn't watch Nashville and Blackish yet.

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  88. Omg!!!! 6.0 holy shit it makes me firmly believe empire is gonna do a 7 for the finale

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  89. I am simply watching it because it is entertaining as hell.

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  90. great for empire

    Abc comedies has a nice rise

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  91. Are you the head network? It's rare for a show to get a 5+ demo now of these days. Think of it this way, The Bernie Mac Show & My Wife & Kids all targeted black audiences and they lasted 5 seasons. I don't know what you have against Empire but it's not welcome here.

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  92. I don't know if The CW can launch a show on Monday just like that. The Originals is already holding the fort there, and moving it to Thursdays, while fixing that night, may risk an entire collapse on Mondays. Sure, maybe JtV can do well on its own, but I don't know if they could actually launch something on Mondays. JtV was kind of a lucky shot, and it got more viewers as it went on due to its acclaim - it did hit 0.4s early on the season.
    So I'm not sure if they are going to do so.


    I think The 100 may come in a weekday during midseason, sharing its timeslot with something else, another limited series. The plus on the fact that the show is a limited series is that it can share its timeslot with another show

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  93. It would be terribe if we had to wait a year for The 100's third season, but that's looking more and more likely.

    It's weird that the CW has only ordered 4 pilots. Perhaps they are confident all of them will get to series but it's still not a lot.

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  94. Guesses exclusively based on top25 results:
    - The Middle: 2.1-2.2
    - The Goldbergs: 2.5
    - Modern Family: 3.3-3.4
    - Blackish: 2.3
    - Nashville: 1.4-1.5

    - Laura: 1.5-1.6 (Wow if this holds...)
    - Law and Order SVU: 1.4-1.5
    - Chicago PD: 1.5

    - Survivor: 2.2
    - TAR: No clue

    - American Idol: 2.6
    - Empire: 5.4-5.5 (DAMN COOKIE!)

    - Arrow: 1.0
    - The 100: 0.5

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  95. Thank you Rebecca!

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  96. Just posted mine above ;)

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  97. The Goldbergs looks super high!

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  98. God, Wednesdays are just amazing. I love that every show has its own little (or big) and steady audience.

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  99. I don't think Laura is going so high. But a 1.4 is possible.

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  100. I think it will go to midseason, to summer or to Fridays. I don't think Fridays are off the table to be honest so it might go there in the fall.

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  101. Guesses
    - The Middle: 2.1
    - The Goldbergs: 2.5
    - Modern Family: 3.3
    - Blackish: 2.3
    - Nashville: 1.4

    - Laura: 1.4
    - Law and Order SVU: 1.4-1.5
    - Chicago PD: 1.5

    - Survivor: 2.2
    - TAR: 1.5

    - American Idol: 2.5
    - Empire: 5.5

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  102. Thanks! I was actually waiting for yours :)

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  103. Empire is on fire. I'm gonna watch the show during the Summer.


    ABC Wednesdays seem to be holding up nicely. ABC has a brilliant Wednesday line-up this season and they better not mess with it next year. They made a great decision in moving the Goldbergs to Wednesdays. Very compatible with the Middle and good lead-in for Modern Family. And Black-ish is working really well after MF and is holding up really well and hasn't crashed in the ratings like most other MF shows. And Nashville is doing really well this year stable in the 1.3 to 1.5 region. ABC made a good decision in renewing it.

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  104. Doesn't The 100 almost always go up form Top 25? I usually see it get 0.4 in top 25.

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  105. Laura's been tracking a 0.3 increase. So if it is a 1.2, then a 1.5 looks possible. Probably will see another 1.7 for Chicago PD, since a 1.5 translated into that last week.

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  106. Well, if it goes to Fridays and does about the same as it does on Wednesday, that would be a big win. So I'd be bitting my nails, but who knows? Maybe it's for the best. Sometimes that happens, after trying it out everywhere NBC learnt that Grimm just fits on Fridays and does well there. Maybe that's the natural timeslot for The 100. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking, but here's hoping

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  107. Guesses for csi cyber next week?

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  108. The 100 will not work after TVD.

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  109. and that is the beauty of it all. The NEED for entertainment without it being the Real Housewives of wherever.

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  110. I think a 2.2-2.3.

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  111. Yep, I found it really odd. Charlie Sheen effect maybe?

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  112. Would you explain why Fox has a dilemma because viewership is almost 80% African American? Do you say the same when numbers come out for Modern Family or The Big Bang Theory when the majority of the audience is Caucasian. Companies are here to make MONEY no matter where the it is coming from. Although you may not like the show, there are more than AA's watching it.

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  113. Lately I've seen 0.6 on the top 25.

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  114. Jane the Virgin is nowadays a stronger show in W18-34 than The Originals is and isn't that far off from TVD in that demo either. And I wasn't suggesting using Jane to launch anything new, I was suggesting using local programming, so keeping Jane put and launching the new thing (the Marc Cherry show most likely) at 8pm. Sure it has to go up against the voice, but I think it is a better alternative than Thursdays when it is forced to face TGIT heads on (either at 8 or 9), not to mention the much higher viewing levels on Monday than Thursday. If you accept that the CW will launch a new female show, which I can't not see happening, and considering the possible places for them to do that are Monday and Thursday, I think you will understand why I say that Mondays at 8 is the best slot for the new show. It also has the advantage of potentially stopping the bleeding of TO and of using whatever strength TVD has left in the best possible way: strengthening the spin off that should likely stick around for a couple more years after the parent show is gone.



    As for The 100, I think it will either go to Fridays in the fall, go to midseason like you are suggesting or move to summer entirely (this one I doubt a bit due to the extremely long hiatus it would require).

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  115. If Laura delivers that kind of rating I'll be surprised. And if it does anywhere near that the following week, I'll expect NBC switching The Night Shift and Laura

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  116. Oh I haven't been looking for the last few episodes, I thought with the leaked kiss it would actually go up and hopefully hold a 0.6.

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  117. While you make a valid point, typing "white people" in all caps and hinting at racism in programming is not the way to achieve a great dialogue. I'd hope we would get beyond this immaturity in talking about race and how it is perceived in the media. Sadly, this post shows that we haven't.

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  118. I'm going with a 1.7-1.9.

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  119. Yeah, 0.5s would be regarded better on Friday. I think it would be a Dixie-esque performer on Fridays (if it gets the 8pm slot, I don't think it could keep the 0.5s on the 9pm slot though unless something crazy happens like Supernatural going to 8pm as its lead-in) which would be quite okay.

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  120. It works on its own without Arrow, I see no way in which TVD will hurt it. I just say that this is a way to plug in Reign's hole

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  121. Both The Goldbergs and Laura had stunt guest star casting.
    So I would expect Laura to give back all ratings gains already in next episode (which I think airs at March 25)
    The Goldbergs might return to usual level next week too, but I'm not sure, it's much stronger show than Laura is.

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  122. Probably. Someone over TVBTN was telling me yesterday that it was supposed to be a big episode with a lot of special things much like MF and that ABC had been promoting the two a lot.

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  123. Same I feel there's not a lot of interest

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  124. WTF empire! Love the show! And pls let the 100 get a 0.5

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  125. Might as well have called it CSI: Cyber Space.

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  126. CSI is a strong brand, I think it's going to be higher than Stalker.

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  127. Even with stunt casting I am finding this number too high for Laura. It hasn't done this since week 2 and you have to go back to very early November to find a 1.4. I think it will be lower than this in the nationals. But in any case, I agree with you that it is likely to give back the gains in the next episode. I do wonder though if the end of the mentalist helped a bit too.

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  128. Nashville takes itself too seriously and they never went full soap opera (at least what I watched of S1).

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  129. We want 0.6, it gets 0.5 every week.

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  130. In my opinion, NBC should have already given The Mysteries Of Laura a post The Voice spot. The audience would line up a lot better than The Night Shift.

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  131. I'm not saying it is right or fair. But that is the way the advertising industry works which is why older viewers are not valued as much as youngers viewers.

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  132. there is inherent racism in programming though. How is it immature?

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  133. I think you overstate the gap there is between the ratings of the 100 and reign. There is usually a 0.1 difference, which isn't that much and could likely be gone if the show is forced to move. In any case, I really don't see it hapenning. The CW has no room for the 100 on a weekday, especially on a female night.

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  134. Do you have a link to where the share is confirmed at 80% ?

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  135. Are you serious? It wasn't even me who bought up race to begin with.

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  136. Well, out of the two midseason dramas it has definitely had the most promotion. However, CSI is a dying branch, Stalker didn't do that good in the time slot and Criminal Minds isn't so strong these days anymore. I think it will hit a 2.0 at best.

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  137. What about moving Izombie to Mondays and freeing up Flash to launch something? If Izombie does well it may be the a safe move.
    I understand your point, TO after TVD may be the way to ensure that TO doesn't bleed further and that it can inherit its parent show timeslot, but launching something new on Mondays still seems a bit like a risk; local programming doesn't rate bad for The CW, but it is still a bit risky to my eyes. That's why I propose the Izombie move there.


    And hell, I hope The 100 doesn't go to summer, at least not right away: if it goes to midseason on season 3 and then gets renewed for season 4, it can go to summer for season 4 as the hiatus wouldn't be as long, but a hiatus of over a year would certainly kill The 100 for good. The Friday option is even better than summer, just so it can avoid the hiatus

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  138. There is a link that says 67% of AA are watching empire.



    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/empires-black-ratings-power-how-767588

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  139. where did you get this 80% figure? I doubt a show would get a 5.5 demo rating if 80% of it viewers were African American.

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  140. If you can prove that every single TV programmer who had the ability to put on shows purposely said we won't hire diverse casts, I'd love to read it.


    All I've read to uphold this argument is speculation, opinion, and race baiting. All of that downward spirals into immaturity quickly. Like all caps to incite in unfortunate places.

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  141. It says 62% of it's 18-49 viewers are AA. and that was for the pilot. The viewership had obviously grown since then. The OP should try again.

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  142. Yeah, I think the time I saw that 0.3 made me think really low about Reign. In The CW world a 0.1 makes a great deal of difference, so sometimes one can overstate or just accurately state something.


    The thing is, I think Reign may go as low as 0.3 again while The 100 has yet to go below 0.5

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  143. I do agree that younger viewers are more valued, which is what Empire does have. However, what do you know about the advertising industry about AA? That is so stupid.

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  144. I like Empire and it is entertaining but let's be honest the writing is pretty bad. Cookie's one liners are funny but silly for a 40 something year old woman - "no Cookie nookie until the bitch is gone". LOL
    And some of the acting is hilarious. Let's just enjoy the show with its limitations since it is more of a comedy than a drama.

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  145. He's exaggerating (and probably has a hidden agenda), but it is true Empire has unprecented high percentage of African American viewers.
    Episodes from 1st to 6th: 57% ; 61% ; 64% ; 63% ; 67% ; 67% .

    That's total viewers, I don't know percentages for A18-49, but those are probably similar.

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  146. Banged by Chris Evans26 February 2015 at 15:53

    Goldbergs very strong.

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  147. Seems Arrow will be down this week... Hopes it stays at 1.0 at least.

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  148. as of Jan 29th, 60% was African American per Variety.

    http://variety.com/2015/data/news/ratings-foxs-empire-draws-largest-audience-yet-dominates-wednesday-1201418355/

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  149. So the picture will be much clearer in April once we can tell wherever Izombie is a breakout hit or not. If it does 0.8 or above during the whole season I think that demands a veteran slot, 0.5-0.8 calls for a midseason renewal or Friday slot, maybe. Any lower is cancellation

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  150. Apparently for the first 3 episodes it was around 60% for the 18-49 demo.

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  151. I was expecting it a bit to be honest considering everything else has been repeats this week. I think it is only on to support the 100 this week before the two part finale begins. In any case, if it keeps a 1.0 I will still be happy, although I would obviously prefer a 1.1. Just please not a 0.9!

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  152. Wow @ Empire!

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  153. It's extremely hard with The CW. They have basically renewed everything and they still have to order new shows, so figuring out how the hell they are going to fit everything in is a bit chaotic. There are only so much certainty -Flash, Arrow and TVD will remain where they are -, and so much possibilities!

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  154. I've only watched the first two episodes of Nashville so I can't really comment from experience but that is a comment I've heard a lot about the show.

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  155. The 100 was renewed last year with a super late premiere though (and it wasn't just the olympics, the tomorrow people aired episodes on Wednesday even post olympics). And I don't think they would bother moving Supernatural if it was DOA, they could just air it after Arrow which is still a very good lead-in anyway.

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  156. I think they may order 1 more pilot, 2 max. But it seems those 4 they already ordered may be the ones we get, unless the Atom show gets ordered

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  157. The middle 2.0
    Goldberg 2.5
    Mf 3.4
    Blackish 2.3

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