Top 25 Markets 18-49 Demo
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Arrow 1.0
Flash (R) 0.6
Hell's Kitchen 1.5
Red Band 1.0
Survivor 2.1
Criminal Minds 2.4
Stalker 1.5
Mysteries of Laura 1.2
SVU 1.8
Chicago PD 1.6
Toy Story (R) 1.9
Great Pumpkin (R) 2.0
Modern Family 4.1
Black-ish 2.8
Nashville 1.5
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The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)
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Metered Market Wednesday Ratings
CBS First With Only 45 Markets Reported
Note: The following results are based on only 45 markets. Excluded are Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Miami, San Diego, Baltimore, Tampa, Austin, San Antonio, Fort Myers and West Palm Beach.
Wednesday 10/15/14
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 6.3/10
NBC 5.3/ 9
ABC 4.6/ 7
Fox 2.7/ 4
CW 1.6/ 3
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Due to the 11 markets not reported, the year-to-year overnight comparisons are excluded.
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence. Fox, on the flipside, dipped by 49 percent.
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-Winners:
“Survivor” (CBS), “The Mysteries of Laura” (NBC), “Modern Family” (ABC), “Criminal Minds” (CBS)
-Respectable:
“Black-ish” (ABC), “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC), “Chicago PD” (NBC)
-Fading:
Hell’s Kitchen” (Fox)
-Modest:
“Nashville” (ABC)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Red Band Society” (Fox)
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Ratings Breakdown:
Based on 45 of the 56-metered markets (see above for the exclusions), CBS led this third Wednesday of the new TV season in the household overnights. Second-place NBC remained the most improved network on Wednesday, but the audience skew is older and the race for dominance among adults 18-49 (and other key young adult demos) will fall between ABC and CBS. Fox, meanwhile, has another night in need of a complete overhaul.
Episode five of “The Mysteries of Laura” on NBC, which is a shoo-in for a full season renewal, inched past CBS’ veteran “Survivor” for first in the 8 p.m. hour with a 6.1 rating/10 share (versus a 6.0/10 for “Survivor”). Comparatively, “The Mysteries of Laura” was 65 percent above the year-ago airing of sophomore drama “Revolution” (3.7/ 6 on 10/16/13). And, while this will not resonate among adults 18-49, from a household overnight perspective “The Mysteries of Laura” is indeed a “winner.”
As for “Survivor,” that was quite a satisfying blindside, wasn’t it?
Next on CBS was long-running “Criminal Minds” (#1: 7.4/12), which remains a competitive force in the 9 p.m. hour, followed by week three of drama “Stalker” at a first-place 5.5/ 9 at 10 p.m. One week earlier, “Stalker” averaged a 5.2/ 9 in the full 56-metered markets, which is a slight improvement. But year-ago occupant “CSI” was still stronger at a 6.1/11. While “Stalker” is by no means a bust, it is not necessarily the type of crime solver that could last on CBS for years.
With stronger lead-in support, season 16 of NBC’s “Law & Order: SVU” (yes…season 16!) finished third with a 5.1/ 8 in the household overnights from 9-10 p.m., which was on par from one year earlier. Sophomore “Chicago PD” capped off the night with a compatible 4.8/ 8 (#2) at 10 p.m., which was 37 percent above the 3.5/ 6 for the failed revival of “Ironside” one year earlier.
ABC’s top draw, of course, was the always dependable “Modern Family” at a 7.0/11 at 9 p.m., which will win the half-hour with ease in all the key demos. Next was week four of “Black-ish” at a 5.1/ 8 at 9:30 p.m. (#2t), which slipped by 11 percent from the 5.7/ 9 in the overnights last week (again based on all 56-markets). Regardless of the slippage, full-season-renewed “Black-ish” was 19 percent above the 4.3/ 7 for failed year-ago occupant “Super Fun Night” one year earlier.
In place of regularly scheduled “The Middle” and “The Goldbergs” from 8-9 p.m. were encore telecasts of animated “The Story of Terror” (#3: 3.9/ 6) and “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” (#3: 3.8/ 6) from 8-9 p.m. And capping off the night on ABC was “Nashville” at a typical last-place 3.9/ 7 at 10 p.m., which was on par from one year earlier.
Elsewhere, struggling Fox could not compete with the combination of “Hell’s Kitchen” (#4: 3.1/ 5) and episode five of “Red Band Society” (#4: 2.4/ 4), which were both equal to one week earlier. And “Arrow” on The CW opened the evening with a 1.9 in the overnights at 8 p.m. (#5), followed by a repeat of the second episode of “The Flash” at a 1.4/ 3 (#5). One year earlier, failed CW drama “The Tomorrow People” scored a 1.7/ 3 at 9 p.m.
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
CBS First With Only 45 Markets Reported
Note: The following results are based on only 45 markets. Excluded are Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Miami, San Diego, Baltimore, Tampa, Austin, San Antonio, Fort Myers and West Palm Beach.
Wednesday 10/15/14
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 6.3/10
NBC 5.3/ 9
ABC 4.6/ 7
Fox 2.7/ 4
CW 1.6/ 3
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Due to the 11 markets not reported, the year-to-year overnight comparisons are excluded.
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence. Fox, on the flipside, dipped by 49 percent.
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-Winners:
“Survivor” (CBS), “The Mysteries of Laura” (NBC), “Modern Family” (ABC), “Criminal Minds” (CBS)
-Respectable:
“Black-ish” (ABC), “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC), “Chicago PD” (NBC)
-Fading:
Hell’s Kitchen” (Fox)
-Modest:
“Nashville” (ABC)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Red Band Society” (Fox)
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Ratings Breakdown:
Based on 45 of the 56-metered markets (see above for the exclusions), CBS led this third Wednesday of the new TV season in the household overnights. Second-place NBC remained the most improved network on Wednesday, but the audience skew is older and the race for dominance among adults 18-49 (and other key young adult demos) will fall between ABC and CBS. Fox, meanwhile, has another night in need of a complete overhaul.
Episode five of “The Mysteries of Laura” on NBC, which is a shoo-in for a full season renewal, inched past CBS’ veteran “Survivor” for first in the 8 p.m. hour with a 6.1 rating/10 share (versus a 6.0/10 for “Survivor”). Comparatively, “The Mysteries of Laura” was 65 percent above the year-ago airing of sophomore drama “Revolution” (3.7/ 6 on 10/16/13). And, while this will not resonate among adults 18-49, from a household overnight perspective “The Mysteries of Laura” is indeed a “winner.”
As for “Survivor,” that was quite a satisfying blindside, wasn’t it?
Next on CBS was long-running “Criminal Minds” (#1: 7.4/12), which remains a competitive force in the 9 p.m. hour, followed by week three of drama “Stalker” at a first-place 5.5/ 9 at 10 p.m. One week earlier, “Stalker” averaged a 5.2/ 9 in the full 56-metered markets, which is a slight improvement. But year-ago occupant “CSI” was still stronger at a 6.1/11. While “Stalker” is by no means a bust, it is not necessarily the type of crime solver that could last on CBS for years.
With stronger lead-in support, season 16 of NBC’s “Law & Order: SVU” (yes…season 16!) finished third with a 5.1/ 8 in the household overnights from 9-10 p.m., which was on par from one year earlier. Sophomore “Chicago PD” capped off the night with a compatible 4.8/ 8 (#2) at 10 p.m., which was 37 percent above the 3.5/ 6 for the failed revival of “Ironside” one year earlier.
ABC’s top draw, of course, was the always dependable “Modern Family” at a 7.0/11 at 9 p.m., which will win the half-hour with ease in all the key demos. Next was week four of “Black-ish” at a 5.1/ 8 at 9:30 p.m. (#2t), which slipped by 11 percent from the 5.7/ 9 in the overnights last week (again based on all 56-markets). Regardless of the slippage, full-season-renewed “Black-ish” was 19 percent above the 4.3/ 7 for failed year-ago occupant “Super Fun Night” one year earlier.
In place of regularly scheduled “The Middle” and “The Goldbergs” from 8-9 p.m. were encore telecasts of animated “The Story of Terror” (#3: 3.9/ 6) and “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” (#3: 3.8/ 6) from 8-9 p.m. And capping off the night on ABC was “Nashville” at a typical last-place 3.9/ 7 at 10 p.m., which was on par from one year earlier.
Elsewhere, struggling Fox could not compete with the combination of “Hell’s Kitchen” (#4: 3.1/ 5) and episode five of “Red Band Society” (#4: 2.4/ 4), which were both equal to one week earlier. And “Arrow” on The CW opened the evening with a 1.9 in the overnights at 8 p.m. (#5), followed by a repeat of the second episode of “The Flash” at a 1.4/ 3 (#5). One year earlier, failed CW drama “The Tomorrow People” scored a 1.7/ 3 at 9 p.m.
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
Source:
Each day (except Sunday) during the main TV Season we post the TV Ratings for the previous nights primetime shows for the major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, CW, FOX, NBC). Cable Network ratings will be added to the Ratings Database.
The first item that gets posted (normally around 2pm GMT) is the early overnight analysis based on the early household numbers (these are not the same as the Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers that are posted later).
Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.
Later on (normally between 4pm-5pm GMT) we post the official early overnight Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers in the table above.
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Stalker up from last week, looks like this could actually last for CBS.
ReplyDeleteArrow dipped a bit. Stalker improved, that's good. That is, if these HH ratings are correct.
ReplyDeleteI hope so, its actually a pretty good show. And its not what everyone thought either. Its not just stalking women or young girls. And the leads have good chemistry. I hope it sticks around.
ReplyDeleteI really wish NBC would break up this line up. I know it is kind of, sort of working, but it's using up valuable real estate.
ReplyDeleteChicago Fire should have been moved back to Wednesday. It would get the same ratings it's getting now without The Voice anyway.
ReplyDeleteI really don't think Laura is a show in for a full season order at all. It is doing basically the same as Revolution (-11% on the timeslot year to year so far which is on par with the overall decline) and NBC has tones of backups. It could have that order but I think it's more likely to not have than not. I could definitely see some sort of extension as scheduling bridge though.
ReplyDelete@Edward, any ratings from top 25 last night?
ReplyDeleteEhh, I'd leave that alone for now. It's doing fine on its own, and while I wouldn't have ordered it, as it seems kind of generic, it's working. I also think it's got 5-6 seasons, max.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, just how many more seasons will SVU last?
Thursday is obviously the bigger priority, but Wednesday has no clear leader. I could see a comedy block working for NBC in either hour, even if it doesn't beat MF.
Very happy for Chicago PD, great show!
ReplyDeleteAnything is possible at this point.
ReplyDeleteBut NBC knows anything they replace Laura with would probably get 1.3s as well (Parks, Apprentice, new comedies, etc), so Laura will have to fall quite a bit more in order for it to not get a full season.
They have a lot of new dramas in store that they could try out in the slot. It's a great slot for drama counter-programming. And it's not like it isn't the worst slot for comedy counter-programming either. Something new would have at least more upside IMO.
ReplyDeleteLike I said, it's possible that they do give it a full season order but I think it's more likely that they don't.
Chicago Fire may be "generic", but audiences love the show, and that's all that matters. The show can easily get 2.0-2.5 even without The Voice. NBC could have moved it to Wednesday 8pm to lead off the night.
ReplyDeleteSVU has many years left in it if Mariska is willing. It's been one of NBC's top shows for years, and it still is.
Comedies haven't worked on Wednesday for NBC. They need to focus on getting better comedies on Tuesday.
It's true a new show "could" have more upside, but likewise it could have more downside as well.
ReplyDeleteA 1.3 for an untested show tasked with leading off the night is bad, but it could be worse (see: Once Upon A Time Wonderland)
Is this an apples/apples comparison? I mean, if TMOL levels off at a 1.3, that wouldn't be great by any means, but in the end, it might be above Revolution got in the slot. And there's always a chance for growth.
ReplyDeleteAlso, what overall decline are you referring to?
"easily get 2.0-2.5" not true, last night it did a 1.9
ReplyDeleteIt can get high 1s and low 2s but no where near a 2.5 without the voice
Half of me thinks NBC will burn off Parks on Fridays, but I guess a lot of what happens depends on what else they order, if anything. If they order at least one of BJ or AZ, that makes their job a lot harder. Even with the early cancellation of Mission Control, they still have Parks, MR, OBH, and UKS. And unless they do something like shortening TV on Mondays to slot a comedy, scheduling one means scheduling another.
ReplyDeleteBroadcasters fall on average ~10-11% per year. Therefore, for you to compare numbers from different years, you have to adjust for that decline. For instance, a 2.0 a year ago would be equivalent to roughly a 1.8 today. That's why I say that Revolution's ratings, which were 11% year than Laura's but a year ago, are equivalent to those from Laura.
ReplyDeleteAnd indeed Laura has a better chance at leveling off than Revolution since it is a procedural. And yes there is always chance for growth. But you can say that about pretty much any show.. So far there haven't been signs of either of those things happening.
By that token, networks would keep sticking with low rated shows all the time. The fact is that they have new shows that they need slots to try out and this is a good slot to do so with the opportunity cost being low, since Laura is not doing great.
ReplyDeleteThere were a couple of shows that were ordered to pilot, but not series, that sounded interesting. They were called Bloodline(s) and The Sixth Gun. I thought they sounded like prime candidates for Wednesday. Both were different than what's on there now, and both were dramas that probably would have skewed young.
ReplyDeleteI don't doubt NBC can wring more seasons out of SVU, but why not give it a season or two more and let it go out with some coherence and dignity?
The premier would have gotten a 2.0-2.5 without The Voice lead-in because of the cliffhanger it ended on last season. Outside of premiers/finales the show stays in the 2.0 range which is great for NBC.
ReplyDeleteWell, it could always order more shows, run them with few to no commercial breaks, and then put in a new show there once it's done. It gets the best of both words there.
ReplyDeleteOver the last few years we have seen networks stick with low rated shows though.
ReplyDeleteNBC with their comedies, ABC with Nashville, Fox with Mindy. It seems to be the trend to stick with shows that are low rated and steady rather than always releasing new untested shows halfway through the season.
I think OBH and MR may end up going to summer to be paired with Welcome To Sweden and Undateable.
ReplyDeleteParks and UKS will be paired, and both may end up either at Thursday 8pm or Friday 8pm.
UKS is, I think, way too high profile to go on Fridays. It's bound to be funny, since it's from Tina Fey, and it hasn't blown its chance at being successful, since it hasn't premiered yet. Depending on what else NBC orders, if anything, I see them trying a comedy on Mondays. I've mentioned this plenty of times, but I think it'd be a smart move. CBS probably won't move Scorpion this season, so no other network will have a comedy there, and NBC will be able to use TV one more time as a great lead in.
ReplyDeleteSurprised that Stalker went up. I imagine it'll get a back-9, but I am not sure if CBS would trade a veteran for it yet. Might also depend on the strength of their new drama pilots.
ReplyDeleteNashville can't be dumped because iits near syndication. Mindy is a veteran too of which a lot of investment has been made so FOX won't be dropping it now- besides it does OK on 18-34 demos.
ReplyDeleteAs for the comedies on NBC, it's been just 2 weeks, networks usually don't drop shows that fast, but they'll be gone by midseason.
Those examples really don't make a case for Laura sticking for 22 episodes with a mere 1.3 rating. NBC has tons of shows coming midseason, so it won't really hurt them removing a show that's doing mediocre ratings
1.6 with repeat, its good, rigth?
ReplyDeleteSo I guess Arrow will score a 0.8-0.9. Shoot I thought it might increase.
ReplyDeleteAs expected,arrow will most probably get 0.9.
ReplyDeleteI'm referencing last season when I mention Nashville and Mindy.
ReplyDeleteBoth were under performing but their respective networks decided to keep them around because they were at least consistent. It makes sense since, FOX and ABC had plenty of experience with experimenting with new shows that all bombed worse then the respective shows they were replacing.
Sometimes it makes sense for networks to keep a low rated yet steady show for stability. NBC may do that with Laura this season. I don't think it will be renewed but I think it could get a full season.
Arrow will get a 0.9/1.0, maybe... The first week it did a 2.0/3 an scored a 1.0 on the demo.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious at what's going to happen, if The Flash keeps the strong numbers, after the Crossover Event... Will people who watch The Flash turn into Arrow the coming week?
but remember numbers for some markets were not included. So you can take it as your definite numbers.
ReplyDeleteRE:Arrow Just because the HH is down doesn't mean 18-49 is down.
ReplyDeleteArrow will certainly benefit from the cross-over.
ReplyDeleteHow much delay are we talking about here?
ReplyDeleteC'mon Arrow. Let's get that 1 or higher.
ReplyDeleteWhich comedies? Bad Judge and A to Z? The latter, maybe, but if the former doesn't drop this week and doesn't drop next week, I could see it getting a back nine.
ReplyDeleteWow, Modern Family is high in the top 25 markets.
ReplyDeleteThat number for the Black-ish though...
ReplyDeleteThis season has been so much better than last
ReplyDeleteLooks like Stalker went a bit up because Criminal Minds went up a lot, both in HH and in the Top 25 demo.
ReplyDeleteLet's see finals
ReplyDeleteAs long as it's above. a. 2.5 it should be fine
No idea, I just posted this tweet here.
ReplyDeleteI guess, but does that matter for advertisers? I feel like the absolute improvement is much more significant.
ReplyDeleteseeems the demo from top 25 markets in down also.
ReplyDeleteThat would probably explain it. CM did seem to take an uncannily large hit from premiere to the second episode. The show is typically fairly steady so I am not sure why it'd fluctuate so much unless the week before was part of the Neilson errors.
ReplyDeleteYes but does the demo include all markets or only those 45? Because some of the 25 top markets are included in those missing 11 as well and since the ratings have been delayed, maybe they are still trying to collect all info of those markets.
ReplyDeleteVery true.They have improved vastly.
ReplyDeletethat i wouldnt know, but the numbers for top 25 did come in later then usual.
ReplyDeleteWas advertised as a Garcia episode, add the theme of that subplot, and wouldn't surprise me some decided to skip it just based on preconceived ideas *rollseyes*
ReplyDeleteI thought Arrow would hit a 1.0 or more this week. I hope we get better numbers this season.
ReplyDeleteARROWS Fast Nationals - 0.8
ReplyDeleteSigh I thought Arrow would go up/stay the same. Flash isn't helping it as much I thought it would. It's still good for CW I guess. Ties with VD. Maybe it will go with finals.
ReplyDeleteYeah no flash effect so far
ReplyDeleteIt's a 2.5.
ReplyDeleteIt's not terrible considering how low MF did.
ReplyDeletedown to 0.8 already in it's 2nd episode.With last episode's shocking ending,i thought it would've scored 1.1 or something!
ReplyDeleteYeah it weird though. I know a lot of people who are starting to watch Arrow because of the flash.
ReplyDeleteTables are fully updated now.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if not having the goldbergs had any effect on mf ratings
ReplyDeleteIt's certainly what I hoped it wouldn't be--another derivative CBS procedural. The serialized elements are far and few between. Canceled my season pass yesterday.
ReplyDeleteDamn Arrow. I'm worried what it's ratings are going to do to The 100.
ReplyDeleteIs the viewer number for Hell's Kitchen correct?
ReplyDeleteI really tought Arrow will maintain it's 1.0, but hey... It's still great.
ReplyDeleteTotal off-topic, but luckily is one of those shows in wich the product can be sold everywhere(comics, toys, etc). The brand in general may be more lucrative than others on theCW's grill.
Arrow only aired its second episode and it's already down to 0.8?! Ugh, hopefully it stays here and doesn't go any lower :/
ReplyDeleteI hope it adjust up
ReplyDeleteFlash isn't going to help. It's on a different night and people that are watching Flash aren't going to watch Arrow if they haven't already. Some might but not enough to give it a ratings bump
ReplyDeleteMe too!
ReplyDeleteLooks like Arrow took a hit in the ratings due to killing Sara. I hope it's adjusted up..
ReplyDeleteWith The Mysteries of Laura staying steady at a 1.3 demo 8+ million viewers I think it'll get a full season order (or maybe just additional episodes ordered) this week.
ReplyDeleteWell I know a few people who started watching Arrow because it was connected to The Flash so I thought that the ratings would go up a little bit. I guess the crossover episode will go up maybe.
ReplyDeleteDamn MF stop falling!... Decent for black-ish but ep wasn't as funny as the last 2... hope for better next week
ReplyDeleteWell if they arent Nielsen household its not gonna matter.
ReplyDeleteI am so worried about the 100. The CW really should have premiered it last week. The Flash didn't need the extra exposure and now the 100 will have to premiere against the world series.
ReplyDeleteYeah Flash definitely didn't need the exposure behind Arrow. They should have premiered The 100 when Arrow premiered.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I just hope for the best. It's such a good show and from what I'm hearing of the S2 first 3 episode screeners, the 2nd season is even better.
ReplyDeleteWell I know that obviously but I thought due to my experience with those people would lead to general increase in interest for Arrow.
ReplyDeletehere are the 18-34 ratings per showbuzzdaily:
ReplyDeleteABC:
TSOT: 1.1
Charlie Brown: 1.3
Modern Family: 1.9
Black-ish: 1.4
Nashville: 0.8
CBS:
Survivor: 1.2
Criminal Minds: 1.3
Stalker: 0.8
NBC:
Laura: 0.8
SVU: 1.4
Chicago PD: 1.1
FOX:
Hell's Kitchen: 0.9
Red Band Society: 0.8
CW:
Arrow: 0.7
I think it was expected like most shows to drop a bit for arrow but it should go for final adjustment......I mean Arrow does have some competition with survivor and ML
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know if the finals will be delayed too?
ReplyDeleteWell the premiere numbers was what was expected from Arrow. This isnt at least not so soon.
ReplyDeleteIf your reason for why the second episode of "Criminal Minds" dipped down in ratings is true, that's a shame. People missed out. I quite liked that episode, myself, especially the Garcia storyline. The ending in particular was quite emotional. And considering the particular subject matter up for debate throughout (death penalty), I thought they handled it well enough, to where both sides got their sympathetic voices heard.
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