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USD POLL : What is your favorite SPN m/m ship?
30 Nov 2013
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Sam/Dean !? THEY'RE BROTHERS ! You sick people...
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Dean and Castiel. Not just favorite m/m ship but favorite relationship of any gender/orientation in a very long time. I adore them. :)
ReplyDeleteAaron/Dean were adorable. I do sincerely hope Aaron returns to SPN. :)
ReplyDeleteMe too! I really wonder why the actor wasn't invited to any cons, hmm.
ReplyDeleteI wonder that too, he's very nice to fans on twitter and he really wants to go to a con :(
ReplyDeleteI am wondering if Aaron is going to be the spinoff. It is a big deal on the DVD.
ReplyDeleteas entitled as you are to an opinion, you can't call people 'sick' for liking a fictional pairing, and i say this as a deancas shipper. let them ship what they want.
ReplyDeleteI'm kinda disgusted with some of the shipping people, not on who they ship but their attitude toward who other people ship. It's fine that you don't ship them but don't bash down other peoples ships. I'm a Destiel shipper but I'll fully support a Wincest shipper or any other ship at that. I'm pretty sure the majority of the SPN family support the Wincest shippers and the Wincest shippers support us because WE'RE FAMILY. Family sticks together, I thought Bobby would've taught you by now.
ReplyDelete(but unfortunately in every fandom there are going to be the people who bash others down because of their ship or bash them down for not liking their own ship)
Sam/Dean.
ReplyDeleteBut I also love Sam/Gabriel, Dean/Cas, John/Bobby, Bobby/Crowley, Gabriel/Cas, and more.
I have a ton of ships.
LOL, we've been shipping them for nine years. We don't care they're brothers.. And it's not like Wincest is the only sibling pairing that people ship in various fandoms. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteMy vote will always go to Destiel, I'm incapable of watching a scene of Dean and Castiel together without being washed away by a sea of feels. It's so close to canon, if only.
ReplyDeleteI really hope not I've seen every episode at least once and I barely remember who aaron is. There is no way I'd watch a spin off about him.
ReplyDeleteDean/Castiel. They have so much potential for canon, and it's so sad that TPTB won't take that step only because they are m/m. Their relationship is special, no words. :) I also ship Sam/Crowley xD But that one is like for fun, not serious like Dean/Cas is for me. Destiel is real. OTP.
ReplyDeleteOMG! Destiel makes me throw up in my mouth. Ugh!!! No way it's canon. YUK!! Dean is straight straight straight.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't aware I had stumbled on to tumblr.
ReplyDeleteEven Dean said they were sick. lol So you are in good company.
ReplyDeleteWow I would love to see the Golem and Aaron in the spin off, that was a super ep.
ReplyDeleteREMEMBER GUYS, NO BASHING SHIPS! WE ALL LOVE OUR SHIPS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS!
ReplyDeleteYou do get you support incest? That is sick, how ever you put it. I'm not sorry that I'm not a fan of the thought that 2 brothers going "at it" with each other...
ReplyDeleteAs long as it's consensual and there's no chance of children, there's nothing wrong with shipping incest pairings.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know, the fact that they're fictional.
are we really doing this? i mean, is this necessary? the answer was obvious from the start
ReplyDeleteI was rather sad that Sam/Cas wasn't involved (because I really love Sassy) but I understand that it's sort of unpopular and so it probably wasn't relevant enough to include. I really enjoy all of you in this fandom, thank you so much for letting me be a part of this family! I've only been a fan for three years, but I really appreciate how supportive you all are of the fact that I don't ship the same thing as you. It's really wonderful to be part of such an amazing artistic media-based community!
ReplyDeleteI love Sam/Cas! There needs to be more for them.
ReplyDeleteA few years ago I was one of those who were calling Destiel shippers delusional with phrases like "Dean/Cas is never going to be canon", "Dean is straight", "They're like brothers not lovers" etc.
ReplyDeleteAnd now I'm fucking ashamed of myself because first I'm not that narrow minded anymore and second, I know exactly how negativity like that can be because I ship SwanQueen and it's treated the exact same way in the Once Upon A Time fandom.
I still don't really ship Dean/Cas manly because I lost interest in SN but I can see why poeple love them and I don't find it delusional or stupid. So please forgive me for my past self and continue to ship Destiel like crazy ;)
*blasts the end of Act I from Wagner's The Valkyrie with the glorious twincest scene*
ReplyDeleteYou know what makes Wincest even better? When it's Michifer at the same time.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm a primary Destiel shipper. I just like to give the finger to the likes of you.
Sam/Cas definitely had potential and it's shown that they really care for and would fight for one another. But their lack of screentime prevents me from seeing it as anything more than friendship/brotherly. But, like I've said...the potential was definitely there. >u<
ReplyDeleteDean/Castiel, Sam/Gabriel, Bobby/Crowley. SPN
ReplyDeleteI had to check too. It's the one with the Golem he inherited from his dad.
ReplyDeleteIt was a great Episode. Dean follows Aaron and he thinks Dean wants to hit on him (I think).
Lovetriangle....LO
ReplyDeleteDean and Cas. Obvs.
ReplyDeleteSo apparently if it's between a boy and girl, it's NOT good, but since it's between two guys, it's FINE. THE GENDERS DON'T MATTER. The fact that if they COULD reproduce their children would be completely fucked up is what matters. Also: There will forever be a power imbalance. Dean is older than Sam - he's Sam's protector. It's unhealthy mentally.
ReplyDeleteAs long as they have the same (or ok a similar) actor for the golem I would be SO there :D LOVED the golem.
ReplyDeleteBut it's not gonna happen, they've already revealed they're making up new characters for the spinoff pilot.
Still, the idea of this fantasy is not normal, in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteAnd there's a big difference between shipping Dean/Cas or what ever and shiping two brothers. I don't mind shipping, I'm actually a fan of a few, but when it gets to shipping in the family that's the line for me.
LOL
ReplyDeleteSometimes, the fact that's it fucked up and unhealthy is what's fun about it, tbh.
ReplyDeleteDean/Benny, they had some great chemistry.
ReplyDeleteI agree. And people who ship siblings don't generally think that it's ok for siblings to date in real life.
ReplyDeleteFantasizing about something and actually doing it are two completely different things, though. That's why I think shipping anything fictional is ok. Even incestuous band fiction is okay with me, as long as you don't REALLY think it's real.
ReplyDeleteExactly!
ReplyDeleteHas anyone ever suggested a Sam/Andy pairing (Andy from 2x05 and 2x21, the mind-controlling psychic kid who was killed by Eva in the YED's "competition")? That would be so adorable, especially with the height difference. :)
ReplyDeleteI shipped two step sibs who met a couple years ago. :) it matters more how they feel and act towards each other
ReplyDeleteI ship a few stepsiblings (Shannon/Boone on Lost and Derek/Casey and Edwin/Lizzie on Life With Derek). They're not actually related by blood so it's not incest to me.
ReplyDeleteI tended to see more chemistry with Dean and Andy, but that might work too.
ReplyDeleteYou're really going to be playing with fire with this poll.
ReplyDeleteI'm always going to root for Dean/Cas, but I had to vote for Dean/Aaron, as they had great chemistry, and were just very cute and likeable and endearing together, goofy. It was nice to see that side of Dean.
That's such a waste, especially since these producers/writers rarely invent good new characters. SPN wastes so much potential, it's uncanny.
ReplyDeleteI hope so. They are saying no SPN characters, but I hope they will change their mind. This show has so many underused, wonderful characters.
ReplyDelete...You have some serious issues to work through, man. I suggest seeking mental help if that's what you LIKE about the relationship.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they weren't sure if he was enough of a draw. I never know how those work, as Shannon Lucio, who didn't play a popular character (she was April the reaper) was invited, although I guess she's had popular roles on other shows.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he wasn't asked because they were afraid people would ask about Dean/Aaron.
These polls are abit excessive and very disgusting in regards to Sam and Dean. At the end of the day none of them hooked up and especially with Sam and Dean that is not cool.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, who were they expecting to win?
ReplyDeleteI don't really see the point of this poll tbh. Everyone already knows who the 1 and 2 places are going to go to.
ReplyDeleteThey seemto be teasing a new character for the spinoff, but I'd love to see Aaron again! =D
ReplyDeleteOther: None.
ReplyDeleteLol, Edlund and Sgriccia had it right when they said that scene is like something from a romcom xD
ReplyDeleteNo one is forcing you to vote?
ReplyDeleteBut, on a more serious note, I would say that it doesn't really matter if people have hooked up or not, since anyone who has ever shipped anything can tell you, the build-up is half the fun ;)
I tried SOOOO HARD not to ship Swan Queen....but damn! The scenes, story lines, and chemistry between Emma/Gina make it impossible not to! Destiel is one of the main ways my sis got me into Supernatural...and I have to say for both SQ and Destiel...if the writers don't want fans to ship them/aren't going to make them canon...WHY do they make some of the scenes they write?! Sometimes there are scenes where you have to wonder "Do they even WATCH these clips before airing them? How do they not see what it looks like they are trying to do with the characters?"
ReplyDeleteI shipped Dean with Bela when I saw s3...but that didn't go anywhere...actually it doesn't seem any romance has a chance in SPN world. But now Cas is the only person I see for Dean.
Captain Swan (Emma/Hook) has become my main Emma ship these days (and I totally have gotten into Fairy Queen...Regina/Tink) but SQ will always have a place in my shipper heart. I wish the love triangle this season would have been Hook/Emma/Regina instead of with Neal. Emma has zero chemistry with him. Hook/Emma/Regina would have been original and exciting....plus, I'm a bit biased in that I'd be happy with either outcome if that were the show's triangle :)
I miss Benny :(
ReplyDeleteWait, Dean is older and that makes it wrong? Like Cas isn't millennia older than Dean. Not to mention that Destiel is inter-species sex that has an intrinsic power imbalance. That's okay, but two consenting adults having sex is wrong because they have the same parents? Really? Don't be such a hypocrite. Sam and Dean aren't ordinary siblings. They are soulmates. It's fiction, and why do you care who other people ship.
ReplyDeleteI have no doubt that Destiel will win this. Not because it is the largest ship in the SPN fandom, but because Destiel shippers are the only shippers with the time to sit around participating in polls. No other group of shippers feels the need to be validated by canon or polls.
ReplyDeleteDean/Castiel is my OTP that I shall ship 5ever. But I also ship Sam/Sarah (forever bitter a/b her) and Sam/Jody...and maybe a little Sam/Kevin.
ReplyDeleteSam and Dean are my OTP :) Always will be. They just make sense to me--there is and never has been anyone else they can trust, no one who ever has or ever will be as important to either of them, no one else who will ever understand what they've been through. They are canon soulmates; they've died for each other and might do so again. They are and always have been everything to each other, and I love that that has been established over and over again in the show :)
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, does ANYONE seriously consider Sam/Dean an actual ship? 'Cause they're, you know, brothers, and Dean even thinks the idea is sick.
ReplyDeleteWay to be gross, SpoilerTV.
Because the 10 seconds it takes to open the site and vote is a lot of time, lol. Yeah, Destiel shippers tend to like to win polls. This isn't inherently positive nor negative, it just is. But acting like we do this because we do nothing else (because this is what you implied here) is so ridiculous. You had the time to type this, it definitely takes more time than voting.
ReplyDeleteI do not care about this at all so but did anyone here know if there will be a preview of Dec 3 Ep I was thinking they come out on Friday but nothing. so back to the odd Gay talk that I really do not care for but I like a 3some that it.
ReplyDeleteMany people do, wincest has been a thing since the beginning of the show.
ReplyDeleteYes. The physical aspect of it isn't canon, but the emotional aspect certainly is. Personally, I can think of a lot worse than two consenting adults having sex.
ReplyDeleteI'm passionate even about the things I disagree. I just don't like shipping of every kind and all sexualities, call me boring lol.
ReplyDeleteRight. Wincest doesn't need polls to validate it. The sexual aspect doesn't have to be canon because it is in every other way.
ReplyDeleteWait, gender doesn't matter because if they could reproduce their children might have disorders? Are you serious. You know what? There are a lot of people who carry genetic disorders, which can lead to horrible birth defects, but there's no law preventing them from reproducing. No one shames them for trying to have kids. Women over 40 are much more likely to produce infants that are "fucked up" as you so poetically call the disabled. Again, no one prevents them from having babies. People used to feel about gays very much the way you do about those in consensual incestuous relationships. You need to seriously examine your prejudices.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet you seem to feel the need to come here and vote, which suggests you do feel the need to be validated by polls; and also to wax lyrical about ~emotional Wincest, soulmates, "it's ~canon in every way" blah-blah, which suggests you feel the need to validate with canon too, dear. Oh and as usual you and your friend Kelios seem to have plenty of time to sit around participating in your circle jerk of Destiel hate.
ReplyDeleteThe toxic nature of the bro bond is the only aspect of it that has been established over and over again in the show :)
ReplyDeleteI voted other: Cass/Crowley
ReplyDeleteI detect a lot of sexual tension between Sam/Dean & Cass/Dean shippers. It's getting hot in here.
Did I say something hateful about destiel here? Funny, I must have missed that. You, on the other hand, are being quite nasty.
ReplyDelete"why do you care who other people ship"
ReplyDeleteNo, why do *you* care? You're one of the fans who is constantly hating on Destiel, you and your buddy Kelios. Why do you and her and your little crew on twitter care so much that other fans ship Destiel?
Oh please. Everyone who ships Destiel has heard of you.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't care less if you ship destiel--as long as you leave it in fandom where it belongs. My problem with the ship and the shippers is limited solely to those who are trying to force it into the show, and who bully anyone who doesn't agree with them--not just fans, but actors, crew and writers as well.
ReplyDeleteI've said that more than once--it's not my fault you don't listen.
And? I've been completely polite here. I haven't attacked you, your ship or anyone who ships it, despite the hateful things said about my ship. If there's a problem here it's yours, not mine.
ReplyDeleteI don't care if fans ship Destiel. I have friends who do, but they don't harass the writers to make it canon or other fans to acknowledge it. They don't go into other ships' tags on Tumblr and call them disgusting. They know the difference between fanon and canon. Get it straight. You ship Destiel? Ship away, baby. Ship away. Just respect other folks right to do the same. BTW I'm rarely on Twitter, so constantly is an extreme exaggeration of me even being there. If you don't like my opinions there, don't follow me.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry. I was only defending my ship since someone felt the need to attack Sam/Dean in the very first comment on this site. I only mentioned Dean/Cas because I get tired of the holier than thou attitude amongst some Destiel shippers. I don't personally think there's anything wrong with it, but issues can be raised if you want to look at issues of age/consent, incest v. inter-species. I don't think either is wrong, but some shippers are hypocrites on this point. Ship and let ship. Again, I don't have a problem with Destiel shippers per se, just those who feel the need to force their ship on everyone else by demanding that it become canon. I'm more than happy to be friends with the reasonable Destiel shippers.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHA It isn't the nature of the relationship that is toxic; it's the outside forces that attempt to tear them apart and destroy them, but I don't expect you to see that. Let's just agree to disagree, and I won't attack your ship. Okay?
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, everyone has their kinks. My friends have rape fantasies & I don't judge. But no one celebrates rape and insists it should be acceptable. (And in a relationship with a lifelong hierarchical aspect, there is never any real consent.)
ReplyDeleteBy giving this so-called ship any proper weight granted other romantic relationships, SpoilerTV might as well endorse bestiality, rape, and pedophilia.
Understandable, but it shouldn't be taken seriously, not even in these kind of polls. This fandom treats the disturbing aspects of incest so lightly that it does SpoilerTV a disservice to take it as something made possibly canon is an insult to the many real people traumatized by incest.
ReplyDeleteI disagree, obviously.
ReplyDeleteHowever, judging by that criteria, Dean/Castiel, Sam/Gabriel and Dean/Benny should also be removed for the same reasons. With all three there is a huge power differential that would negate true consent--impossible to know if Sam or Dean are consenting from true desire or fear. In addition, all three are interspecies. It's not the same as bestiality, but it's in the same family imo.
Dean/Castiel is especially problematic because of Castiel's complete lack of knowledge re: anything human--in that case it's hard to say which side would be more wrong, Dean for taking advantage of someone so childlike, or Castiel for creating a potential forced consent situation.
Then you also have the rape issues involved in both Sam/Gabriel and Dean/Castiel, since no one knows what's actually happened to the original owners of Castiel and Gabriel's bodies. If they are still inside those bodies (canon is unclear in Castiel's case, and it's never addressed by Gabriel) then every sexual act committed by either pairing is potentially rape.
But the most important thing is that no one is espousing any of these relationships as real. No one is giving them 'weight'. Everyone knows (or should know imo) that these are fictional situations that exist outside normal behavior, Sam and Dean's relationship most definitely included.
Exactly.
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing wrong with having a genetic disorder - it's just that it's hard to go through life with one, and we want to minimize the number of people who have them. If we can prevent them from having it, then let's DO that. And what are you saying - that just because it's consensual, that makes it okay? Is it okay for a 40 year old man to have sex with a 10 year old girl just because she said "yes"? Is it okay for a parent to have sex with their child, as long as they consent? According to you, it is.
ReplyDeleteNo. It's the fact that Sam RELIES on Dean too much - their will always be an imbalance of Sam looking up to Dean, of Dean feeling overprotective of Sam, that would make any romantic and/or sexual relationship mentally unhealthy for both of them. Also: Cas is now human. They're equals. They don't rely on each other for protection in any way textually and/or subtextually. And I never said I shipped Destiel.
ReplyDeleteDean/Cas is the one of the most intense and beautiful relationships I have seen on TV.
ReplyDeleteUm, you do realize 10 year old's cannot consent to sex; that their minds literally aren't developed enough to rationalize consequences/make informed decisions regarding sex(not mention the coercion factors you're describing also do not go hand-in-hand with consent)? You obviously can't grasp the meaning of consent, so it's no wonder that you don't get the significance of it.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I'm a Dean/Cas shipper too, but I hate to see people talking badly about those that ship Sam/Dean. Some of the best people that I know are Sam/Dean shippers...they're amazing people and insults towards this group of shippers just make me really sad. I don't ship it either, but no reason to call people names. Ship and let ship.
ReplyDeleteDean/Castiel obviously. But Dean/Aaron would've been great
ReplyDeleteI thought they made it pretty clear in the show that Sam and Dean WEREN'T soulmates? They ended up in completely different heavens. Sam's heaven was reliving moments where he had a normal life, where he felt like a normal kid for once, where he was away from his toxic relationship with his father and Dean. And Dean was upset about that, because his heaven was with Sammy.
ReplyDeleteAnd fight me on this if you want but, of course Dean's heaven was with Sam and seeing him happy. It fits perfectly well with the father/son relationship they, unfortunately, have. Of course Dean was upset that Sam's greatest hits didn't involve Dean - because his only foremost thought his entire life has been "save sammy, take care of sammy" and yeah idk i'm just... wow. I'm so sad for these to boys tbh.
Um, Zachariah clearly screwed with their Heaven to drive the boys apart because no way were those their happiest memories.
ReplyDeleteDean and Castiel
ReplyDeleteNo, I never said that. A child of 10 cannot consent. You're comparing pedophilia with consensual sex between adults and that's messed up. I absolutely agree that we should minimize genetic disorders, but that has nothing to do with same sex pairings that cannot result in pregnancy. You're the one who tried who said that gender didn't matter. Obviously, it does. And again, but your logic those who carry markers for genetic disorders or older women should be shamed for getting pregnancy. I just want you to understand where that kind of logic leads. Just be honest about your aversion to incest. It isn't logical or rational. Two adult males who consent are harming no one. Even a male and female could choose to ensure through sterilization that pregnancy couldn't happen.
ReplyDeleteThough I'm not agreeing to the Sam/Dean pairing, I'm not going to judge
ReplyDeleteothers or call them names over it. Such a Childish notion. I'm a
Cas/Dean shipper and I hate it when those talk trash about mine. So I'm
living and let living, cause it's simply not cool to do that shiz.
That would be great. I loved Aaron and the golem also. Except for some bad guys like Abbadon, Aaron is my favorite guest star from the last few seasons... Jody and Death are my favorites still "living".
ReplyDeleteAt least I'm not alone. I hate all romance in my favorite shows. Family is good... But when I think of bromance, what I want is brothers in arms relationships. I sometimes get curious about how people see romance between some of these characters, but I would be highly disappointed in anything more than a one episode fling with a character. Story lines like Lisa/Dean and Sam/Amelia make me want to turn the TV off. I always fast forward... If I wanted that stuff I would watch Vampire Diaries.
ReplyDeleteDean had one memory of Sam, one memory of his mother... If you paid attention all of the memories were happy but disturbing. The one with the fireworks ended with the burning down the field. The one with the dinner had Sam getting groped by a girl in front of her family. The one with Mary ended with a big fight between their parents... And we all know the bad parts of Sam's other memories that we were allowed to see. Zachariah was definitely manipulating those scenes or the guys never had completely happy memories.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree... And it worked.
ReplyDeleteMy fave m/m ship is Crowstiel (Cas/Crowley). I get it that it's not included, no one ever thinks of my ship.
ReplyDeleteHow the heck did 10 year olds come into this conversation? We're talking about adults in all these situations. There is no issue of pedophilia in this discussion.
ReplyDeleteWhen have they ever been apart and really happy? One might argue that had Sam not had demon blood and Jess had lived, he could have been happy with her. But he's never been happy without Dean since. He certainly wasn't when Dean went to hell and sure as heck wasn't with Amelia. They were two miserable, grieving people who got each other through a rough time. Likewise, Dean wasn't happy when Sam was in the cage, and the moment he knew Sam was back, Lisa knew it was over. Now, one might argue that they could have been happy in those situations if the other had been alive and there were no outside forces dragging them back together. Dean definitely loved Lisa and Ben and had happy moments with them, and one presumes that Sam had some happy moments with Amelia and Riot.
ReplyDeleteWhat saddens me is that so many fail to see that most of the destructive dynamic in their relationship is a reaction to outside forces threatening one or the other. If you look at their relationship toward the end of S6, you'll see that their relationship wasn't making them miserable. They were supportive and worked well as a team. It wasn't until Cas broke the wall in Sam's head that everything went down the toilet again. But let's step back for a moment and get a little perspective. SPN would be a really boring show if everyone had a nice healthy relationship -- including Castiel's with the boys because he's done some pretty shitty things to them too. This show is a drama, perhaps even a tragedy. They are fictional characters, so you know they aren't really hurting. Their dysfunctional relationship is what makes the show interesting and has saved both the world and their bacon on numerous occasions.
What's "romantic" is the notion that the boys can just hook up with other people and become independent people with healthy relationships. They would actually need years of intensive therapy, and that's not going to happen. Their seed of their relationship was set the moment that John handed Sam to Dean and told Dean to get his brother out of that burning house, and it was hardwired into their brains as small children. For a really interesting read on the psychology of it as it relates to childhood development: http://cheebles.livejournal.com/42714.html and http://cheebles.livejournal.com/42483.html
I think this poll is more about the fandom and it's fantasies than the show itself. I mean, SPN doesn't even have m/m couples! They aren't going to make incest canon or even suggest at it. Also, fanfic writers usually put "trigger warnings" in their stories so that they won't insult anyone by accident.
ReplyDeleteIt was a big deal on the DVD, that is what gave me the idea. I also would like to see more Jody and less Charlie, but Death is a favorite of mine.
ReplyDeleteI agree. This show is definitely not about romantic relationships. It gets boring after a while anyway, and that's why I don't watch shows where the characters only dwell on their love life.
ReplyDeletemaybe, and if that is the case, it's really bad and unprofessional from the side of Creation Entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised though...
ReplyDeleteI will always wonder how people see wanting Destiel to become canon as forcing the ship on everyone. We love something, we see canon foundation for it, we want it to happen. This happens everywhere, with a bunch of shows. But somehow with Destiel it's forcing it on other people. We're not asking you to see it, we're not asking you to like it, we're not asking you to ship it, we're not asking you to support it.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing we want is to be able to support something we love and talk about it without a bunch of people acting like this is something awful thing. And these same people go around and do the same thing with other aspects of the show. If supporting Destiel is pushing it on everyone, then supporting the brothers' relationship is also pushing it on everyone. And you can say it's what the show is about until you don't have a voice to talk anymore and people still are allowed to not like it as much as you do. You go and support whatever you like without being an asshole about it and we go and support what we like without being an asshole about it.
But accepting other people see Destiel as a canon based ship with as much foundation to become canon as other pairings had before becoming canon (Booth and Bones, Castle and Beckett, Mulder and Scully) seems impossible for some people to grasp. And no, it's not Destiel shippers reading too much into it, since tptb said more than once they include it on purpose. Intending to go through with it or not is their responsibility, but you take the fault and throw at us instead.
I'm pretty sure what you call reasonable Destiel shippers are the ones who treat the ship like a dirty secret that shouldn't be talked about (and don't say this is what shipping is, that ships shall not be talked about, because ships are often talked about in media all the freaking time), so really, you can have them.
And I'm not "attacking" you based on nothing. Like someone else said, pretty much all Destiel shippers have heard about you.
I feel so mainstream but yeah, Dean/Cas for me too please.
ReplyDeleteThis. It was made canon that Dean was NOT part of Sam's heaven, I don't know where this "soulmates" idea comes from, because it was pretty obvious that they aren't. They're codependent, but that codependency does not make either of them happy, especially Sam. And for Dean, I think he thinks that's what makes him happy, but it's obvious it's a false happiness. Pretty sure this season is heading in the direction of showing him that, and that he can be his own person.
ReplyDeleteno love for Crowley/Cas? :(
ReplyDeleteshhhhhh I got you
ReplyDeleteC'mon people! Let's see some more representation from the shippers of the most epically sweetest pairing! Sam/Crowley 5-ever!! Woo-Hoo!! They are MADE for each other! They both have gone against the norm of their upbringings! Sam ran off to be a lawyer and Crowley showed Hell that being a salesman was totally badass!
ReplyDeleteAnd now they have found each other at last! Crowley even has a pet name for Sam! Moose! He almost caresses those syllables with his tongue every time he says it! Sam sacrificed his blood and almost his life to make Crowley human so they could be together!
EPIC. LOVE.
Destiel and Wincest are wimpy compared to the beacon of burning raw passion that is Cram!!!
Agreed. The injection of romance into certain shows I watch really aggravates me. Ultimately, I expect it to show itself in some form at some point ... but when it happens, it's my least favorite aspect of the story/ep. It's why I don't watch shows that have their focus on a relationship. Not that I had an interest in ever watching it, but Vampire Diaries would be a good example of what I mean.
ReplyDelete>> I'd like to know why you think that they wouldn't make a good couple.<<
ReplyDeleteProbably because it's not Dean/Cas.
Great way describing it. If I want romance and really girlish stuff I watch True Blood or Lost Girl.
ReplyDeleteIts just can't happen on Supernatural with the boys having girlfriends, and if it did I'll take it but let it last!. However it shows the humane side of these hunters but ultimately its supernatural, a show about the family business :)
@Kelios Those comparisons you're making with the other ships are kind of grasping at straws. Are there any support groups out there for Vessel/Human abuse? Do victims of Angel possession exist? No. If those people choose to ship Angel/Human, they're not espousing rape based on magical scifi TV show rules.
ReplyDeleteBut by arguing that Sam and Dean should be seriously held on that level, you spit on Sam and Dean's already-great bond by inserting superfluous unneeded sex into it. You also spit on victims of real life incest.
Apparently they have minimal screen time together since Misha finds it almost impossible to keep a straight face when working with Jared. Often Jared's doing something like putting his foot on Misha's crotch during filming. Oh, these boys.
ReplyDeleteI had to vote for Dean/Cas. They're probably the first m/m ship that I've majorly shipped and, to me, they are probably one of my favourite relationships, however you may see it, on TV right now.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I have to admit, Dean/Aaron and Sam/Kevin are all kinds of cute :)
I like romance but this is just not the "romantic" type of show beyond the occasional ONS. The Dean/Lisa and the Sam/Amelia affairs prove that this show is not about romance and will never be about romance. Those storylines failed miserably.
ReplyDeleteaside from this poll...
ReplyDeleteI wonder though since its been a few years and so much has happened and since Sam also chose Dead in Season 8, if his version of Heaven has changed? I wonder if Dean would now be part of his Heaven...
I remember watching that episode (I did a 3 month all 8 seasons of Supernatural marathon lol) and being stressed about the boys relationship and then there was this episode. I never got the chance to let it sink in that zachariah could be messing with the memories. This episode left an awful feeling in my stomach that I don't think ever went away... :( lol
ReplyDeleteDean and Cas are not just SPN's m/m most popular ship.
ReplyDeleteIt's internet's m/m most popular ship!
Destiel won every 2013 poll it was in. And for me it's the most beautiful love story ever told :') if only SPN were brave and creative enough to explore all that potential. Well, I'll be here till the end, hoping, while feeling thankful and proud of this talented community, that are destiel shippers <3
ah yeah i remember him now ha thanks!
ReplyDeletewho is aaron? lol
ReplyDelete"Incest" is the I in RAINN, one of the biggest anti-abuse and support
ReplyDeletenetworks in existence. I hope to never meet you in real life, incest
person.
Truth. I'm glad I dropped this show; it's pathetic watching two middle-aged men not growing up at all and getting closer to finally just murdering each other.
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