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11 Nov 2013

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77 comments:

  1. klutzy_girl11 November 2013 at 20:21

    New young!Dean kinda does look like him. A+.


    Mustache guy looks a little like a mixture of Jared and Christian Kane.

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  2. tvmonkey11 November 2013 at 20:22

    Looks like Dean found a home at some point after all (and got in a bit of hunting too) and had to give it up for John and Sam?


    This apparently will be tear jerker so I expect some kind of weepy confession from Dean


    -this was the first time he's had a home since he was 4 years old
    -he wanted to stay but couldn't because of John/Sam
    -it was the first time he ever felt loved and appreciated
    -all he ever wanted was for John, Sam and himself to be a family and have a home together


    On Sam's side I expect


    -Some lame excuse as to where he was when all this happened
    -him to be made to feel bad about not appreciating all Dean did for him
    -feel bad that Dean had a home and gave up up for him and John
    -to find a new appreciation for the home/family he now has with Dean

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  3. mac11 November 2013 at 20:23

    I have no idea what's going on in this episode but the guy with the moustache does look a little like Sam and I'm 100% sure that I've seen the woman already on SPN...I just don't know who she portrayed

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  4. tvmonkey11 November 2013 at 20:25

    This kinda reminds me of The Girl Next Door except we know this episode will have everyone feeling sorry for Dean where as all that episode did was make everyone call Sam immature and ungrateful. Wonder how much anti Sam sentiment will be floating around after this one?

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  5. mac11 November 2013 at 20:26

    What ? when did anyone feel bad for Dean after killing Amy ? If anything this episode made me dislike the writers for pulling such a cheap shot to make Sam look like Deans victim (what was intended to be the case considering Sams reaction)

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  6. tvmonkey11 November 2013 at 20:26

    I think he's supposed to be the guy that runs the home for the bad boys and most likely the guy who was a better father to Dean than John was even if only for a few weeks?


    I expect lots of anti John and guilty Sam in this episode.

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  7. mac11 November 2013 at 20:28

    why are they tearing John down so much anyway ? The character wasn't originally written as the classic dead beat dad.


    and geez no...no guilty Sam

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  8. sdwhiskey11 November 2013 at 21:15

    Ooooh, good point about the Amulet! Where is it?!

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  9. sdwhiskey11 November 2013 at 21:29

    "-all he ever wanted was for John, Sam and himself to be a family and have a home together"


    And what's so wrong with that? Dean loves his family, oh no, what a horrible person!



    Also, BOTH brothers have had their share of "insight" episodes where one brother is supposed to "feel bad" for not appreciating the other. For example, Two Minutes to Midnight had Bobby scolding Dean for being too hard on Sam. So they had Sam "save 10 people" all on his own so that we could see how under-appreciated he is. These kind of episodes are to provide the "other" brother, as well as the viewers, insight into their character.


    And Jensen is fantastic at heavy emotional scenes, so I'm really looking forward to this one, "weepy Dean confessions" and all.

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  10. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:30

    There is a young Sam in this episode apparently. Hunter Dillon is the kid's name. Don't know why Sam never knew about Dean being in the home though.

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  11. Elena Wonderland11 November 2013 at 21:31

    I hope there's something going on with it in the episode and they didn't just forget about it.I will be so sad if that happens.I mean Dean wore it in the flashback to season 3 in 7x15.And the scene was short.They can't have forgotten about it in an episode where he should be wearing it constantly,right?

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  12. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:34

    This fandom is freaking nuts sometimes. Pay no attention to it. I remember people hating Sam for taking the last bowl of Lucky Charms in Something Wicked. Seriously, they hated a guy for something he did when he was six years old. lol I can't help but laugh at some people over the stupidest stuff. I love both brothers and find this stuff to be so ridiculous.

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  13. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:37

    So I just saw in the casting spoilers that there is a young Sam in this episode. I'm guessing he comes in towards the end of young Dean's story, after he decides to go back to him and John perhaps? I wonder if all the secrecy surrounding this episode means a surprise JDM appearance. Wouldn't that be wild? Yeah, I don't think it will happen either but I can dream, right?

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  14. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:44

    I've been hearing rumors about the amulet all season and if they were going to show the damned thing, this would be the episode to show it in.

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  15. JeanneM11 November 2013 at 21:50

    I haven't been following spoilers this season as much as I have in the past. May I ask what kind of rumors about the amulet you've heard? I'd love for it to be brought back in some form, but I've given up hope for it.

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  16. sharonally11 November 2013 at 21:51

    Two Minutes in Two Midnight was not a insightful episode into Sam . And there are many things I could say about SPN but lacking insight into Dean is not one of them . The ' other brother' is fine in that department.

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  17. maloose11 November 2013 at 21:53

    There is a young Sam with a silhouette of John in that pic I guess, they're in the Impala after all ;) Seems like they've come to pick Dean up. Wonder where Sam thought that place was, a camp? A friend's house? ...
    YES, I'm with you about that dream ^^

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  18. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:54

    Adam Glass was hinting around at it on Twitter a while back, saying he was looking for ways to write it back in. People were giving him suggestions and stuff and he said not to rule out seeing it again. When people found out about this episode and that he was the writer involved everyone automatically figured that he found a way and called him a cheater because it being on Young Dean doesn't count. But yeah, I'm expecting it to be on Young Dean because of that.

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  19. Lisa11 November 2013 at 21:59

    It's going to be like After School Special where you don't actually see John in the car. But there's been so much secrecy surrounding this episode it's ridiculous. I've heard bigger spoilers about Ezekiel and Castiel being thrown out weeks ahead of time, but for some reason no one is talking about this one. Which made me wonder if maybe they got Jeff to make a cameo or something. But it's probably not going to happen, I'm just getting myself all in a tizzy for nothing. lol

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  20. sdwhiskey11 November 2013 at 22:04

    As I said, TMTM was about Dean feeling bad for not having enough faith in Sam that he could take on Lucifer. That was the whole point of Bobby's speech to Dean in the end.



    I would say Afterschool Special provided a lot of Sam insight, for example.

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  21. JeanneM11 November 2013 at 22:05

    Ah, thank you so much. I would love to see it again. *sniffle*

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  22. CyanaT11 November 2013 at 22:08

    THX! Facepalm! I knew I had read her name before in connection with the show but couldn't remember where and was too lazy to look it up.

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  23. CyanaT11 November 2013 at 22:17

    Maybe not so much direct anti John as much as more guilty Sam ... for being young Dean's responsibility at a far too young age. (Not a "Dean bash" - I'm sure he was a highly responsible older sibling). As was mentioned upthread, young Sammy still gets loads of crap for "Lucky Charms incident". Once adult Sam learns young Dean got caught and confined for stealing food, Sam will feel even more like a selfish younger bro - at least that how some of the fandom think Sam should feel.

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  24. Lisa11 November 2013 at 22:24

    I'm just hoping that it's not what the rumors are saying, that it happened during the time Sam ran away to Flagstaff. People have been speculating this for weeks now and since they never established an age for when he did this, it would make sense for why he never knew about Dean being in a home. Could you imagine the hatred Sam will get if that turns out to be true? Holy crap. Taking the last bowl of Lucky Charms would pale in comparison, that much is for sure.

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  25. Peter J411 November 2013 at 22:59

    They've always written John as being a distant father who put too much responsibility on Dean.


    As time passed they began implying he abused Dean and saying Bobby raised Dean and Sam (which made no sense), but they have cut back on this in recent years.

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  26. CyanaT11 November 2013 at 23:01

    You're right ... the show never set an age on Flagstaff, so that's a reasonable explanation for Sammy 'not knowing.' In DSOTM Dean said that 'Sammy' ran away 'on his watch', meaning 'Dad' was away at that time. "Dean" said he looked for "Sam" for days and 'Dean' came to think 'Sam' was dead. Theoretically young Dean could have been caught steal food for himself while he looked for Sam. I got the impression that when "Dad" got home he was furious with "Dean" for 'losing Sammy' not for 'losing Sammy' and getting caught and confined for stealing food.
    But who knows? Glass is writing the episode and it wouldn't be the first 'serious retcon' he's ever done and it wouldn't be the first time he's written "Sam" (younger and older) in the douchiest, least sympathetic light. I am majorly afraid of how Sam will come out looking in this episode; I have zero worries about how Dean will come across, younger and Now.

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  27. Peter J411 November 2013 at 23:01

    I think if people don't bring up the Amy story it's because the whole story was so terrible fans would rather forget it. "Dean killed Amy in front of her son!" was one of the most hackneyed writing choices ever.

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  28. Laura Jade11 November 2013 at 23:06

    How come 'Being Erica' is in it again? Is it something to do with when they saved her and her family? *confused*

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  29. GodDamnAngel11 November 2013 at 23:23

    Dean did not pay much for the Amy incident *onscreen*, but I know many people *in fandom* who were upset by what he did, myself included. It was a downright shocking move, for some, and I know it makes my personal list of episodes I'd Like to Forget Ever existed, just for that reason.

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  30. jensenfan197811 November 2013 at 23:26

    I think I am going to enjoy this one. An opportunity to see either of the boy's past is a bonus. We had Sam and a girl in season 7. It's about time for Dean at that age give or take a year

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  31. Peter J411 November 2013 at 23:33

    In the past some Dean fans were upset with his writing for Dean ("Mommy Dearest"). He's gotten better but sometimes it's still too much of the barking, excessively angry Dean. I don't think he's as bad with Sam but he likes to knock Sam out,

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  32. GodDamnAngel11 November 2013 at 23:35

    Personally, I can't help but wonder if the people who have those reactions are over-identifying with those scenes because of things going on in their own lives.

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  33. Lisa11 November 2013 at 23:35

    LOL. No one was worse than Sera Gamble with knocking Sam out. People used to theorize that she was behind some of the Hurt Sam fanfic that's out there that's how bad she was. But yeah, Glass does tend to make Dean come off a bit angry at times.

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  34. Lisa11 November 2013 at 23:41

    You make a good point. An older sibling who still has issues with having to do without for a younger sibling type of situation. But the show was still new at that point and I couldn't believe the reaction to that. Serious outrage over a six year old kid taking the last bowl of Lucky Charms. It was ridiculous. I can kind of see where Sam haters get their fuel now after almost nine years of his adult counterpart making some major mistakes, but that was completely unnecessary hatred towards a guy for something he did when he was six.

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  35. Lisa11 November 2013 at 23:45

    No, she's playing a completely different character in this one. She plays the adult version of Robin, the girl Dean has a romance with when he's at the home. This show loves to recycle actors.

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  36. Lisa11 November 2013 at 23:50

    Jeffrey Dean Morgan isn't very happy with how John's been retconned into being an abusive, neglectful a-hole over the years, that much is for sure. I mean yeah the guy had his faults (as do all the characters on this show) but they did lay the crap on him pretty thick after they killed him off. He's said on a few different occasions that he would like to come back as long as they were willing to paint him in a more sympathetic light to make up for how he's been portrayed. I got my hopes up for a few seconds when I saw that there's a Young Sam in this episode, that maybe he might be making an appearance but it doesn't seem very likely.

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  37. CyanaT11 November 2013 at 23:52

    Oh I can see that, Glass does tend to write an angrier Dean than other writers but I'd trade angry Dean for Jerk/DBag Sam any day, lol. I liked MD - I can't ever hear the word or a song from "Jefferson Starship" without LMAO - great Dean line.

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  38. Ali12 November 2013 at 00:07

    I am so excited for this episode!! I have a feeling it's going to be a great one, but I can tell already that its going to make me so emotional! Tissues, you better be ready!

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  39. Peter J412 November 2013 at 00:09

    Last season they had a more positive picture of John. I think everything became uglier because they wanted Sam and Dean angst, and then they also wanted to make Bobby the ideal father. With Bobby gone and with the show writing more about family legacy with the Men of Letters, they haven't been as negative.

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  40. Kaye23712 November 2013 at 00:11

    I wasn't a fan of John since day one and nothing that happened in the last couple of seasons made my opinion change about him or hitted as being ''out of character'' for him, everything always fitted the image of him I had from the start. I don't think the whole Bobby stuff made no sense either, we knew he dropped the boys to some people while he was hunting, deciding it was Bobby for a lot of those time just filled the holes.

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  41. Peter J412 November 2013 at 00:15

    When we first met Bobby, he only had limited ties to "the boys" and tried to stay out of their personal lives. Then over time he became closer to them. I was never sure how this turned into him raising them and having all these bonding moments with them as kids.


    I don't think the view of John as a neglectful, harsh father changed, but the writing became much much harsher. At one point they even suggested he and Mary were having big problems before she died, which took away from the premise of the show, the foundation, in my mind.

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  42. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:16

    Well put. I'm really looking forward to this one. I hope it lives up to expectations, I would love more episodes like this. To know more about the boys past as well as their present and future.

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  43. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:19

    Love your whole post and I totally agree. AMULET please! Angst Sam and Dean about EACH OTHER, not about angels, demons and all that crap. I love the Winchester family drama of Supernatural the most.

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  44. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:20

    Don't tease. I think this would be one of the most amazing things SPN has done if the get JDM back for a small cameo, although it wouldn't be with our boys so I'm not sure now ha.

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  45. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:21

    Same

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  46. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:22

    Dean hooking up! FINALLY. Can we see some skin please. We have 2 of the hottest guys on t.v. as the leads of this show and we keep them covered up like they are living on the north pole. I love romantic/hot sex Dean, so heres hoping.

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  47. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:22

    Dean has a home and that is where family is, his family and thats John and Sam. Dean didn't want some random home. I'm sure he felt something for these people but I don't think he at all wanted to stay with them.

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  48. Demi12 November 2013 at 00:25

    Hopefully some hot sex scenes for Jensen/ahem-Dean. We've got two of the hotest guys on t.v. as leads of this show and we wrap them up like their in the north pole. Time to show a little Jensen/Dean skin.

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  49. Peter J412 November 2013 at 00:25

    Seeing another actor as Dean is always a challenge. Whereas Colin Ford was good casting from the start, I've never been able to accept any of the young Deans. I'm not sure this will change but I hope it does.


    Dean's always had to be tough and strong for Sam. Seeing some of that edge removed as he adjusts to more of a 'normal' life would be interesting, if it's done the right way. It would also explain another reason why Dean was hurt when Sam would leave for an attempt at a new life.


    I'm not as crazy about the girlfriend angle because the show doesn't do this well and she will be lucky to make it out of the episode alive, but I do look forward to some of this, especially if there's something we don't know about, like maybe a murder Dean had to help cover up or was involved in.

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  50. Kaye23712 November 2013 at 00:25

    I just saw Bobby as an old, distant friend, when we first met him. The kicking John out with a gun could've (and probably did) happened many years before season one, making it possible to have something in a distant past without being huggy and warm. I know Bobby wasn't written to be much than a guest star cause of schedule conflct, so he wasn't written at the start to be in the their past. But it's still making sense to me since the writers never pointed a finger at someone as the one John dropped the boys the most often, I never saw a problem with picking Bobby to fill the blanks. You can grow distant to some people in time and either reconnect or stay forever away.


    I agree with you that part in Dark Side of the Moon was a bit ouf of nowhere. It just never had an impact on me like lowing my opinion of John, it was already low enough

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  51. Peter J412 November 2013 at 00:26

    I always assume the actors just don't want to show much. I'd certainly be fine with seeing more.

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  52. Elena Wonderland12 November 2013 at 00:40

    I truly hope so cause I will be so disappointed if it doesn't show up at all ... I still curse that damn ending of 5x17.UGH.

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  53. Elena Wonderland12 November 2013 at 00:43

    I don't think he's gonna have sex in this episode.A kiss maybe but nothing more.I've heard he will get some real action in 9x08.

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  54. Elena Wonderland12 November 2013 at 00:44

    PREACH!

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  55. Laura Jade12 November 2013 at 00:53

    Thanks for clearing that up, it's a shame, I was looking forward to a catch up-y episode.

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  56. Lisa12 November 2013 at 00:57

    This is a good theory. Like maybe the ghost Dean has to take care of now was someone he knew from the group home when he was a kid. Maybe he knows what happened to her and that's the secret he's trying to keep from Sam? Robin possibly ties into this as well, which is why she's being brought back into the fold. It probably isn't going to turn into a current day relationship, since he's getting a sex scene in episode 8. All of the romance will most likely be between Young Dean and Young Robin.

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  57. GodDamnAngel12 November 2013 at 01:31

    I find that people on the internet tend to be very harsh and unforgiving to young children and teenagers, in general, especially if it is a scenario that can be painted as the "selfish, ungrateful youth" of their generation. There is often very little effort to see things from the younger character's perspective, much less taking the relative maturity level of their ages into account.

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  58. Peter J412 November 2013 at 02:16

    Dean's having sex in episode 8? I didn't realize that. I thought it was this one for some reason. I had heard something about how he's revirginized in episode 8, I don't know if that's true or not.


    I imagine his relationship with Robin will just be pain of what was lost, what have you. I hope the character is interesting so she might have the potential to be more, but I'll settle for her not dying or not being a villain.

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  59. Back In Black Tricksteress 9512 November 2013 at 02:17

    Looks very insightful, probably sad but wonderful all at the same time :)

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  60. Lisa12 November 2013 at 02:22

    Dean will recognize one of the born again virgins from a porn movie, probably Casa Erotica lol. But yeah, she's the one he has sex scenes with, and I'm also assuming that whatever MOTW is in that episode is either her or takes the both of them because Sam and Sheriff Mills have to find them.

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  61. Peter J412 November 2013 at 02:23

    Oh. Well that's true of a lot of porn actresses. I'm half-surprised she's not from Busty Asian Beauties.

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  62. Back In Black Tricksteress 9512 November 2013 at 02:24

    Yeah the John thing was particularly intense in the early days, and being like 10 back then I always thought he was a bit of a dick.
    I also heard rumors that Jeffrey was kicked off because he was arguing alot with the directors?. Rumors though...
    As time went by and when John sacrificed himself for Dean it showed the real father he was suppose to be, the nice caring one. It also did show some sympathetic light through his actions.
    If we were to see John in this episode it won't be pretty, but like you said all the characters have faults, at the end of the day revenge took over him..at least they won :)

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  63. Lisa12 November 2013 at 02:26

    That could be it too. He does love his Busty Asian Beauties. lol

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  64. Elena Wonderland12 November 2013 at 02:43

    No problem :P

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  65. kerinda12 November 2013 at 02:43

    me too! lets just forget season 7 ever happen I wish I could after the Amy thing I wanted forget the whole show.

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  66. Lucy12 November 2013 at 03:06

    This kid does not look anything like Dean. As always, spn cared so much about finding someone to play him as it does to his injuries or his tattoo or the handprint which magically disappear…

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  67. lala212 November 2013 at 03:43

    How old are Sam and Dean in this episode?
    I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.

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  68. lala212 November 2013 at 03:48

    That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. For Dean to be old enough to have a girlfriend, he had to be at least 12, right? That would make Sam 8 so how in the world did he NOT know that Dean got arrested? Was he away at "Uncle Bobby's" or Pastor Jim's or something?

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  69. lala212 November 2013 at 03:51

    Thank you.
    TMTM was hardly an insightful episode when it came to Sam. As from Bobby's sudden realization that Sam cares about innocent people/victims just as much as they all do, the audience learned NOTHING new or interesting about Sam.

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  70. lala212 November 2013 at 03:53

    ASS did not offer any new insight into Sam. It was not surprising that Sam didn't want to hunt. Everyone already knew that. I liked the episode (and BK's Dean), but I don't think it provided much insight into Sam.

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  71. CyanaT12 November 2013 at 04:01

    I agree. The first few seasons both boys on separate occasions said variations of "Dad made mistakes, but he did the best he could" - things could be said of most single parents raising their kids in difficult situations. In DALDOM, Dean got most of resentment of John putting a lot of pressure on him when he was too young to carry such a heavy burden out in the open (for himself). Then suddenly in S4 on the show turned John into a "deadbeat, possibly abusive father" when there had been no canon to that point to indicate that John was anything but a ''hard-working", stressed- out and typically demanding single parent who moved his sons around often and occasionally drank too heavily. What did JDM ever do to piss EK and the writers off to so thoroughly and unnecessarily destroy his character?

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  72. GodDamnAngel12 November 2013 at 08:41

    The "drank too heavily", for me, is the part where he started to slide out of Acceptable Parental Mistakes into Deadbeat Dad territory, and that was established all the way back in season 2, even if John did apologize for it.


    Also, there was always plenty of evidence to suggest that John was at least emotionally and psychologically abusive to both boys, if not physically abusive. In fact, that kind of abuse is commonly used in military training to keep soldiers in line (because people with low self-esteem are generally more obedient and willing to respect authority and follow orders), and it is basically outright stated from very early on that John raised Sam and Dean to be soldiers. Being a military man, himself, it's quite possible he wouldn't have even thought twice before employing those same tactics on the boys. And was apparently highly effective with it in Dean's case. This would also explain Sam's and Dean's occasional abusive behavior toward each other, as they would have learned it from their dad.


    Not to mention the fact that most single parents in difficult situations are absent a lot due to needing to work long hours to support their children. John was absent because he had quit his paying job to pursue a highly dangerous career that pays nothing in the name of a personal vendetta. Dean, at least, has some fond memories of their Before Life, which would have made it easier for him to forgive and excuse John, as well as sympathizing with his need for revenge, whereas Sam never had that connection.


    As for Sam and Dean being less forgiving of and apologetic toward John in later seasons, I never really saw anything wrong with that, as I find most people tend to get more resentful of their parents over time, as they become more self-aware of their parents' influence on their lives. Especially if said parent isn't around anymore to defend themselves or necessitate resolution.

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  73. Lisa12 November 2013 at 12:34

    Dean is 15 and Sam is 11, I believe.

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  74. isleofskye12 November 2013 at 15:18

    This young actor isn't giving me any Dean vibes at all. He looks far too well groomed to be a young Winchester.
    The actor I liked best was the one in AVSP, Ridge Canipe.

    That's how I imagine Dean; a goofy ordinary looking boy who matures into ultra-handsomeness, not a pre-packaged affair.
    x
    As for the rest, I feel it will be painful to watch as these writers are experts at trashing the foundations of the show, to replace them with thier own poor, poor efforts.
    X

    I hope I'm mistaken for I have loved everyone of the back stories we have had.

    The last one with young Sam and young Amy was delicately done and very believable. I don't have the same hopes for this.
    How Sam could not have known is very strange to me but of course, no big; anything goes!

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  75. lala212 November 2013 at 17:41

    Well, then, how could Sam NOT know Dean was living in a group home for awhile. That's just silly.

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  76. Lisa12 November 2013 at 20:02

    No freaking clue. Maybe he was at Pastor Jim's? Or Bobby's? He better not have been in Flagstaff. I'll never forgive Glass if he pulls that crap.

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  77. lala213 November 2013 at 00:30

    He better not have been in Flagstaff! It would just be like these writers to suddenly remember canon, wouldn't it?

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